Stock rooted Lollipop with TWRP - Is this the best method to upgrade to MM? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There are a few threads that deal with upgrading lollipop to marshmallow, but they seem to raise as many questions as they answer - mainly since they were usually written before rooted images were distributed.
Basically, I am on an unlocked, rooted stock XT1575 with TWRP 2.8.7.0. It sounds like it's less efficient and has lots of potential problems to go back to stock, unroot, install OTA, do new system root, and re-add TWRP.
Instead, it sounds like the simplest method to get to stock rooted MM, with least steps and potential problems, should be this:
Update TWRP to 2.8.7.1 using IMG file here from within TWRP Recovery (TWRP Manager did not install it when I tried via Android proper - I was still at 2.8.7.0)
Do a full TWRP backup of my current Lollipop stock rooted installation (I assume this means I can restore without problems if the MM install goes awry)
*Optional: Use Titanium Backup to backup settings of important apps, and text messages/MMS.
In TWRP, Wipe->Swipe to Factory Reset
Transfer to phone and Flash via TWRP the stock rooted odexed ROM from this thread (not sure if there is a good argument for deodexed? I've never gotten a clear answer why one should be better, but would stick with odexed just because I believe it is "stock" so maybe less problems?)
Install SuperSU 2.62 from this thread by simply flashing it as normal in TWRP 2.8.7.1.
Reinstall all programs on initial setup. [*Optional: Reinstall via Titanium backup]
I assume if I do this I will: have marshmallow; have root; have working TWRP.
Does anyone see any obvious problems with this method? Thanks, I really appreciate any comments.
EDIT: Yes, I tried this method. It all worked, except I've added SuperSU installation steps that worked for me, since the "Stock Rooted" ROM is NOT actually rooted when I flash it. Also, used Titanium Backup successfully for some programs, so added that as an option.

Sorry to bump, but any response from someone with experience would be very helpful. I just want to make sure I don't have to go through the whole unroot/OTA/reinstall TWRP/reinstall root procedure that every thread says seems to cause problems...

Answered my own question - edited the main post to show the method used successfully.

Thank you for this answer thread. I was looking for the simplest answer for upgrading to MM without having to unroot and reflash everything. Looks like this is the easiest for now (I have having to reinstall everything, since some games I play to NOT react nicely to data being restored via titanium).

Have a brand new XT1575 with 5.1.1, Does the MM Update break root ability. I primarily want it for xposed, adaway. No ROMing
Should I update and then root? or root and then update?

I personally have found that following this method breaks root possibilities. MM is rooted, but when I got to the point of installing SuperSU via these steps, it broke EVERYTHING (settings stopped working, Motorola Services stopped working, etc).
I have to start from scratch again now.

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[Q] 5.0.2 update didn't stick, not rooted, CWM

I have CWM installed, but I am running stock, no root. I got the 5.0.2 update today and told it to apply. Didn't pay close enough attention on reboot, was asked something about applying something in recover and don't remember if I said yes or no, then prompted for adding root (both of those were in CWM Recovery) and I know I said no to root. After the reboot I was still running 4.4.4.
So I guess I am ready to just manually download and install. Can anyone help me make sure which thread I should be looking at for instructions? I just feel like I have looked at everything and am not confident I am doing the right things. Can I just download the image linked in the Stock OTA URLs thread, then install from recovery?
Installed CWM without Root? :/
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[Samsumg Galaxy S5 (Canadian model)] Randomly losing root access

Hi everyone,
I followed the rooting instructions for the Canadian version of this phone (Using twrp) on this forum to good effect but i keep losing root access seemingly randomly. I can go 2 days or 2 weeks with no problems then all of a sudden Titanium Backup will tell me I've lost root. Besides downloading games from the play store, I haven't downloaded anything i can think of that would destroy my root. Can someone try to explain what's happening and also provide a solution?
Some related problems:
1. SuperSU says "binary not installed" when I lose root.
2. If I turn off my phone, I will inevitably be stuck in a Bootloop requiring a factory wipe and reset. Restoring and redownloading apps and backups can get pretty tedious.
3. Every time I do a factory reset using twrp, I just reboot and Im rerooted again. I do not have to flash the custom rom and SuperSU again.
I used the instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63382838&postcount=2
Please and thank you
Are you using the patched kernel and the proper version of super user
patch81 said:
Are you using the patched kernel and the proper version of super user
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I used the instructions in this thread: :
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63382838&postcount=2
Yeah this how I am rooted. Flash stock back onto your phone and start with teamwin for your recovery in Odin. Then flash the kernel and then superuser. You should be good to go

Upgrading Rooted (TWRP+SU) PE 1575 from 5.1 to M. Need Advice + I have a guide

Hello,
Now before you ask, I've been doing a lot of research though searching threads and post. I'm actually going to post everything I found so far. On my first attempt of getting Marshmallow a few weeks ago, I downloaded the OTA and installed it. BIG mistake as I had TWRP and stock update didn't know what to do. I had to use CLARK to go back to stock then restore my phone back to Lolipop. Then I had to fix my Wifi Issue. After that I started doing a lot of research.
Here's all of my research links:
[FiRMWARE] XT1575 PuRE FiRMWARE aNd STuFF
Already Rooted Moto X Pure 2015 (KitKat) - Upgrade to Marshmallow, How?
Marshmallow and root -pg 2
MXPE on the way. Root after getting M update? (POST #18)
I need some input on people who have already went though this. So, this is what I'm getting:
1) Flash/Update to TWRP twrp-2.8.7.1-clark.img
2) Download "XT1575 stock unrooted TWRP backup" (from the first link). UNZIP THE FILE and place it in the TWRP folder on your phones internal storage.
3) Reboot into Recovery. Backup, then Restore the "XT1575 stock unrooted TWRP backup" image
4) If TWRP ask to install SuperSU, DON'T INSTALL
5) Let the phone boot back up and setup Marshmallow.
NOW, in order to Restore your apps+data with Titanium Backup, your phone has to be rooted. Currently, your phone is not rooted so you have to do the following:
6) Download 2.62 supersu and move it to internal/external SD.
7) Reboot into Twerp.
8) Install 2.62 supersu
9) Reboot
10) Test Titanium Backup and you should be OK.
Now, has anybody used this method or a similar method? I think this is possibly a correct method. Also reading that there's no need to use the seamless root since you can use supersu 2.62.
Personally I would flash the full stock mm firmware in fastboot. Then flash twrp and root. I don't believe your method will update modem.
lafester said:
Personally I would flash the full stock mm firmware in fastboot. Then flash twrp and root. I don't believe your method will update modem.
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But if it doesn't update the modem, I could just flash that on there though TWRP right? NON-HLOS.bin?
If I can get some more feetback, it would be great. I'm going to attempt in one more day. If everything goes good, I want to make a quick guide since it's hard to find concrete guides for this situation.

(XT-1644) Lost Root after TWRP stock Rooted ROM restore

I've never ran into this issue all the Android Devices I have owned. I'm hoping it's something simple yet annoying as fukc. Not sure if it's a TWRP issue ? SuperSU (latest version after update) is there and it shows as all apps are Granted su permissions.
As of right now, I'm back to my original stock MPJ24.139-49 , with unlocked bootloader. I am seeing a few different SuperSU(s) in the threads to flash. I would just flash stock firmware but trying to get to file is a pain in the ass.
Any help greatly appreciated...
https://download.chainfire.eu/751/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651.zip this works for me and i also restored from nandroid backup and didn't lose root so yeah try it u don't need to patch boot.img or anything just flash it with twrp dats it

Installing Official Nougat in an XT1621

Hello! Today I woke up with the notification of the new nougat update, Exciting! But I guess I have several problems: first of all, my phone is rooted, will I lose root acces? Also, I have TWRP installed. Yesterday I tried installing a security update on a device with TWRP and there was no way, will this happen to me? Another problem is my kernel, ElementalX. I've installed it since I had screen burn, but I don't really care about performing a fix everyday, but I know this kernel will prevent Nougat to install correctly. I do have a System Backup from when the kernel was not installed, and I read you can install 'just the boot.img' from TWRP restoring options but there's no "boot.img" file on my backup folder. I would like to add that I'm running on Marshmallow 6.0.1, rooted with SuperSU, using Xposed. The ElementalX kernel ver. is 3.10.84-ElementalX-G4-0.07 and the TWRP ver. is twrp-3.0.2-0-athene. Thank you all in advance!
polykiwi316 said:
Hello! Today I woke up with the notification of the new nougat update, Exciting! But I guess I have several problems: first of all, my phone is rooted, will I lose root acces? Also, I have TWRP installed. Yesterday I tried installing a security update on a device with TWRP and there was no way, will this happen to me? Another problem is my kernel, ElementalX. I've installed it since I had screen burn, but I don't really care about performing a fix everyday, but I know this kernel will prevent Nougat to install correctly. I do have a System Backup from when the kernel was not installed, and I read you can install 'just the boot.img' from TWRP restoring options but there's no "boot.img" file on my backup folder. I would like to add that I'm running on Marshmallow 6.0.1, rooted with SuperSU, using Xposed. The ElementalX kernel ver. is 3.10.84-ElementalX-G4-0.07 and the TWRP ver. is twrp-3.0.2-0-athene. Thank you all in advance!
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You must return to stock recovery and stock kernel in order to flash the OTA. Yes you will lose root and will have to redo it once you are updated. The procedure for rooting in Nougat is different than on Marshmallow. There are numerous posts in this forum on the exact steps you need to take to accomplish all of this this safely. Take the time to read and research before you try anything. Don't just expect somebody to spoon feed you the info.
pastorbob62 said:
You must return to stock recovery and stock kernel in order to flash the OTA. Yes you will lose root and will have to redo it once you are updated. The procedure for rooting in Nougat is different than on Marshmallow. There are numerous posts in this forum on the exact steps you need to take to accomplish all of this this safely. Take the time to read and research before you try anything. Don't just expect somebody to spoon feed you the info.
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Thanks! I'm installing it tomorrow!

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