Idea: Xperia Z5,Z3 pressure sensor as a force touch sensor - Xperia Z5 General

Hi everyone,
this is my first thread, so just move it somewhere else if its wrong here.
In this XDA thread is the pressure sensor described:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
My idea was to use this sensor as a pressure information to use it as a force touch sensor. I don't know much about programming and it is maybe not possible to modify the system so that it's working. But I hat this idea and I just wanted to share it with you.
I don't have more information about this idea. Maybe someone else has any ideas if it's possible.
PS:
Sorry for my bad english. I'm from Germany and still learing the language.

I think you'll find:
1) It's not sensitive enough and;
2) The pressure will change according to your environment and would need to be calibrated very often
Example: A storm is coming and suddenly it thinks you are no longer pressing your screen?

Yes, that would be a problem.
Okay, can be closed.

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Screen position detecting mechanism???

I am just wandering how the device knows about the current position of the screen (laptop/pocket modes). There are any magnetic sensors, or mechanic ones, or both? I've disassembled it and found some parts that i think are responsible for that, but however i don't have a clear view on how it's made. Any suggestions please... Thank you!

(Video)Proximity Sensor Sensitivity Problem (TMOBUS HD2 vs HD2)

i think my proximity sensor is too sensitive because it ONLY works normal when i am outdoors at direct sunlight, but even when my shadow drops on the sensor it locks the screen, also in shade or in well lit indoors my proximity sensor doesnt work properly either.
i want to know if there is a way to change the SENSITIVITY of PROXIMITY SENSOR at will? i removed the screen protector so there is nothing on the way of the sensor.
also during a call pressing hardware buttons doesn't bring the device back from standby, hardware buttons are lit for a split second and nothing happens. is there any way to use the hardware buttons (except "end call" button of course ) during the call to turn the screen on?
t-mobile us hd2's proximity sensor works fine but mine has a problem, see the video here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCRqFYtLMs
thnx for your help..
Any idea?
Any idea? Does anyone have the same issue? Plz it's a very irritating problem I couldn't find a solution..
I havent own HD2, but eventually I will get it this year.. So, I wondering why you removed screen protector? because of sense Ui wont work with screen protector?
I removed the screen protector because I thought that it blocks the proximity sensor and cause it to malfunction, I searched the forum and some people had the same problem but solved it by removing the screen protector. But it didn't work in my case so I'm looking for a solution.
As you can see on the video the proximity sensor works normal under direct sunlight when i move it to the window, in the room it somehow doesn't work correctly..
(english is not my native language so pls excuse me)
Thank you
Thank you for your creativity with subtraction
Sorry for disturbing again but my problem is killing me i am desperate to find an answer could you pls at least share some ideas or recommend something to do?
İ emailed HTC for the issue and waiting for an answer, if you have any idea pls feel free to share i'm stuck with this annoying problem, thnx..
HTC's response
I do apologize there is no way to change the sensitivity of the proximity sensor on your device. You can try a soft reset by pressing the reset button on the back of the device. If that does not resolve the issue then you may want to do a hard reset on the device. Hard resetting the device will clear off the device and reset everything back to factory settings. You will want to back up your information from the device before doing the hard reset. If the hard reset does not resolve the issue then I suggest contact our support department..........
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I guess I'ıı have to get the proximity sensor changed..
I searched eBay for a replacement but couldn't find it there are proximity sensor replacements for iPhones, I wonder if the iPhone's and HD2's sensors are the same?(probably not but I just want to be sure)
Hi a have the same problem. Did you found the solution?
well the promicity censor has nothin to go with light or shadows..it could be a glitch in the Radio or ROM try using a new radio or ROM

My proximity sensor under froyo is buggy

Hello everyone,
I've the following problem:
When i call someone and the telephone is in a horizontal position the sensor isn't working correctly. When i put my finger on it the display doesn't turn off. If i hold the phone in a vertical position everything works like it should.
Can someone confirm this?
Sorry for my bad english.
Thanks in advance!!
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Because nobody could help me and answer my question, I try to explain it better.
It would be very nice if some people could test the following steps:
1. Put the telephone on a desk/table
2. Call a number for example your mailbox
3. Put your finger over the proximity sensor
-> Is your Display turning off or is it staying on ?
This is what i want to know and I thank you for few seconds doing this test
For what it may or may not be worth, covering the sensor with my finger does nothing, but my screen does actually turn off when I've got the phone to my ear.
...and here's the trick: if the phone is held vertically, covering the sensor with my finger works!
Yeah when the phone is vertically - no probs, too.
But try to make a call when you lie in bed
That won't work, but wtf samsung?
In Eclair the sensor works perfect. and it doesn't matter if the telephone is held vertically or horizontally !
With the Skype telephone app, there's no problem.
So i think the Phone.apk is the problem for that.
Is this possible to fix? I can't do this because i am a noob ;-)
But maybe others ?

HD Mini Digitizer Replacement

Well I did it. I dropped my phone and the digitizer is ruined. Does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to replace it? I found this after hours of searching, but it is vague at best. I have removed all parts but the the digitizer. I do not want to take a heat gun to it until I know this is the right process.
If anyone can elaborate or confirm I would greatly appreciate the input.
Thank You
PopOne
here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMI7sNY5YZg
there is an aria but design and hardware are the same(except the optic trackball)
and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwomVNUtCm0
Thank you for you post. Very helpful indeed. The phone has now been disassembled and waiting on its new glass.
Do not know why I did not check youtube :S
PopulationOne said:
Thank you for you post. Very helpful indeed. The phone has now been disassembled and waiting on its new glass.
Do not know why I did not check youtube :S
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Keep us informed of your repair, im very curious how easy it is to replace the parts.
u may not need a heat gun.... i just got it repaired here in india. the mechanic fellow did it really gud.....
Hi guys. I just followed this tutorial and replaced my digitizer. However, I must have disturbed the proximity or light sensor as now my screen blanks when I receive or make a call (as it did before) but now I can't re-enable the screen whilst in a call. Is there a way to disable the proximity sensor on the phone or another way of fixing this issue?
memeny said:
Hi guys. I just followed this tutorial and replaced my digitizer. However, I must have disturbed the proximity or light sensor as now my screen blanks when I receive or make a call (as it did before) but now I can't re-enable the screen whilst in a call. Is there a way to disable the proximity sensor on the phone or another way of fixing this issue?
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if you use cht 2.0 there is a switch of proximity sensor..so u can enable or disable it

[IMPORTANT][HELP NEEDED] HD2 Proximity Sensor - WakeUp Problem

Hello guys,
at first i want to excuse for my language mistakes, it's not my native language.
I have a problem with my phone. If I make a phone call, the proximity sensor deactivates the screen, like it should be, but the screen won't wake up, after I push the phone away from my ear. It takes a long time, until I can see something again on the screen. I don't want to create a new thread where I am crying about this issue, I want to solve this problem.
I also searched at many other developer-forums and i noticed, that this happens to many people around there and everybody is crying about it.
Everybody who can provide informations, that can help to solve this problem is invited to share his experiences with us.
The HD2 is a very beautiful mobile phone, but this problem is really annoying.
I made a lot of tests to find the reason of this problem.
Things, that I did without getting clear results:
1. Dirty sensor
It could be possible, that the sensor or the glass plate is dirty inside and because of this, the sensor can't recognize it properly.
2. Light sensor
It was random, that I expected that this issue also depends on the light sensor. I made a call and the screen goes off, like every time. Now i take the flashlight and light it in the area of the proximity and light sensor. Instantly the screen went on and displayed everything, but if I move the flashlight away again, it goes off. and that happens as long as you make the call. If you end the call the screen stays off like it's everytime the case. If I move the flashlight now in front of the sensor area, the screen goes on and it stays on.
EDIT: It's not everytime working.
The following things I did, but brought no solution:
1. Flashing everything new
I did a task29, flashed some different radio roms, different HSPL's and also many different ROM's. Windows Mobile and ALSO Android. Nothing helps.
2. Blowing inside the case
I also read that it help if I blow inside the case near the area of the sensors. I don't know if it really helps, but it's fur sure not the reason.
3. Display protector
In my case it's not the reason, because I don't use a protector and never used one.
Questions, that I have now:
1. Proximity sensor
Everybody says the HTC HD2 has a proximity sensor, but I don't know if this is sure. Maybe the phone has only a light sensor, which works like a proximity sensor, like other newer phone's like the HTC Wildfire.
2. Production error
Could it be a failure from the factory? Encoutered anybody this problem only after some time? Or maybe anyone who can say that the problem was solved by itself?
Please don't answer like: use the forum search or something like this.
I searched a lot and not only in this forum.
Best regards Gerhard Silvio
Further test confirmed, what I said. The problem must be the light sensor. After a call and the phone don't turn on, light a fire in front of the phone or light with a flashlight to the sensors. it goes on immediately!
Strange..
EDIT:
I made a video to show what I mean. Excuse me for my bad english ^.^
Now you developers outside are asked how to fix it...
Open the phone and clean? Or maybe it's not so easy?
Best regards
There is no possibility to fix this issue, because the light sensor is not programmable (as we know now, the HD2 has no proximity sensor). The sensor decides to turn the screen off when it gets dark, so i took some black nail polish and put it under the glass surface in front of the sensor. The screen now don't turn off and automatic light won't work also, but i can compensate these problems better than the call issue.
And without doing this, you will never be able to use WP7 right, because you can only end a call if you push the on-screen button, and this button won't appear. So you must wait until the other side ends the call, and if this don't happen you can't use your phone again without remove and reinserting the battery ^^
I hope I could help you by providing these informations.
Thread can be closed, there's nothing more to say.
The problem is isnst a problem 'cos you burned the proximity sensor with that heat.
iamrv said:
The problem is isnst a problem 'cos you burned the proximity sensor with that heat.
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What are you talking?
That has nothing to do with any heat (if you mean the lighter). It was 3cm or more, can't follow your answer, cause its unlogical. It also worked with a normal light or a laser or anything else.
the problem u have ( i have too) only happens in nand builds, i dont have this issue with Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE installed.. the phone act normal completely.
so i have to say this to me is a nand build issue, why others on htc hd2 arent not having this problem is what confuses me
In my case, it was not depending of what build or os i use. It happened in wm6.5, sd android, nand android and also in wp7. I caused by the hardware, and if i can't repair it, i have to destroy or deactivate it. with software you can't deactivate the sensor so i coloured the sensor black, that he won't notice anything anymore and the problem is solved. i have no problem with the screen active, while calling.
Firstly, the HD2 DOES have a proximity sensor and it works flawlessly in WM6.5. I know this was 100% fact for me, as I was very impressed at how well it worked. There are 2 sensors, clearly visible, next to the earpiece. One is a light sensor, as you know, and the other is a proximity sensor. This is not an opinion - it's a fact. I just wanted that to be very clear.
Also, I don't have this problem in Android, either SD builds (I don't use any more), or NAND builds (my daily driver). I will admit that there is a delay of a couple of seconds when I take the phone away from my ear, before the screen comes on, but I know that's just down to the fact that I'm using ported software.
You say that in your case this failed to work in both WM6.5 and Android. You've got a dodgy proximity sensor then. This is clearly a hardware failure.
The HD2 DOES have a proximity sensor but this fault does occur on some android builds
If it occurs for you everywhere, then u simply have a faulty proximity sensor, and i know this because i too have used wm.5, andoird nand and sd, and WP7
and the proximity sensor works fine on all but some (older) android builds
if the HD2 didn't have a proximity sensor there wouldn't be a second hole, next to the light sensor.
johncmolyneux said:
Firstly, the HD2 DOES have a proximity sensor and it works flawlessly in WM6.5. I know this was 100% fact for me, as I was very impressed at how well it worked. There are 2 sensors, clearly visible, next to the earpiece. One is a light sensor, as you know, and the other is a proximity sensor. This is not an opinion - it's a fact. I just wanted that to be very clear.
Also, I don't have this problem in Android, either SD builds (I don't use any more), or NAND builds (my daily driver). I will admit that there is a delay of a couple of seconds when I take the phone away from my ear, before the screen comes on, but I know that's just down to the fact that I'm using ported software.
You say that in your case this failed to work in both WM6.5 and Android. You've got a dodgy proximity sensor then. This is clearly a hardware failure.
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Thanks for your opinion, but my proximity sensor works flawlessly in windows mobile 6.5.3 but under superram darkstone build I suffer rge same problem. Most of the times can be fixed touching the write arrow button...
Maybe can help...
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My HD2 tmobile also has this proximity sensor problem. I use my finger to cover the sensors (light, proximity) during the call. The screen will off. But the screen cannot back to on when I moved out the sensor cover. I tried to use the torch to shine the sensor but no response.
If HD2 connected to power supply or PC USB for battery charging. The screen can switch on. I think this charging method for sensor disabled.
you already thought about a Hardware Problem and let HTC fix it?
yogya said:
Thanks for your opinion, but my proximity sensor works flawlessly in windows mobile 6.5.3 but under superram darkstone build I suffer rge same problem. Most of the times can be fixed touching the write arrow button...
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Thanks, but that's clearly just an issue with the Android build you're using. Try another one and see if it's better.
I tested my HD2 again. I restored WM6.5 to my HD2 tmobile. The proximity sensor was no problem. the screen can turn off when my face close to screen and my face is far to screen, the screen will turn on.
I also tested the lighting sensor. I put my HD2 under the strong sunshine, screen will light strongly.
If I re-installed the android rom NAND. This problem will be issue. I tried more than two ROMs. The result is same.
Sorry, maybe my english is not good.
johncmolyneux said:
Thanks, but that's clearly just an issue with the Android build you're using. Try another one and see if it's better.
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Thanks for the info...
If I change my build I el let it know here... For the moment, I can survive with this...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
jackykwan said:
I tested my HD2 again. I restored WM6.5 to my HD2 tmobile. The proximity sensor was no problem. the screen can turn off when my face close to screen and my face is far to screen, the screen will turn on.
I also tested the lighting sensor. I put my HD2 under the strong sunshine, screen will light strongly.
If I re-installed the android rom NAND. This problem will be issue. I tried more than two ROMs. The result is same.
Sorry, maybe my english is not good.
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then it can only be an issue with the nand builds unless the nand builds have use of an additional sensor not used in wm6.5..
Hi.
Readed all this thread. Also one other same situation, described on HD2 Android Q&A and General forum on thread "[Q] screen goes off if I make a phone call".
I can confirm that this issue goes active with Android NAND builds. Not matter, is it Froyo or Gingerbread. I tested lot different roms. Best results i got on PureGingerbread gpc_hd2_gingerbread_v1.3 and with SetCPU on conservative. On somewhere proposed smartass didnt work.
Actually i dont remember this same bug, when i runned Android at SD.
Now i placed back stock win rom and all works perfect. This shows that my hardware works correctly. But i dont like winmo (also winphone 7 is unripe and i dont like it too). I want use Android and not at SD. Must i go to change phone and loose todays best smartphone (my opinion)?
I dont know fundamental of Android and dont have time to learn it too (so many works and other things todo). But maybe some rom or kernel chief can handle this and overlook things that operate with Proximity or Light sensor.
I dont have so many posts yet that post this to my preferred rom thread. I dont want go spam over forum to get post count bigger. this was reason why i posted my opinions here.
Finally sorry about my poor enlish.
I heard so much meanings where the reason could be and i have to end up my whole life without solving this problem.
in my case it's not os-dependent.
i never needed my screen to turn off while talking, the hd2 is very big and with android there's nearly no chance to push any button and with wp7 the same, so why i should be angry about this problem. my sensor won't recognize anything anymore, that's enough for me ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951858
This sounds very interesting. The proximity sensor of the Desire HD of most people was not correctly calibrated so it won't work good and they got the same issues like we do with our beloved HD2. Check out the thread and the app. I'm not sure if it works, but you can give it a try. I'm not able to use it, because i deactivated my sensor in a hardware-way xD !
Silberpfeil3110 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951858
This sounds very interesting. The proximity sensor of the Desire HD of most people was not correctly calibrated so it won't work good and they got the same issues like we do with our beloved HD2. Check out the thread and the app. I'm not sure if it works, but you can give it a try. I'm not able to use it, because i deactivated my sensor in a hardware-way xD !
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Hello
I have this problem since 2 days
And i test it
now my phone not turn off during a call. screen stay on.

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