System Partition - Zenfone 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello, wanted to know if you have to increase the system partition because the 1.3GB of space is very low for the system and a decent version of gapps, thank you already! ?

matheusgcdj said:
hello, wanted to know if you have to increase the system partition because the 1.3GB of space is very low for the system and a decent version of gapps, thank you already!
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I have 1.23 and seems to have pretty much the most used ones Gmail, Inbox , Maps, Drive and the works. Why is this a problem really?

KerDrooid said:
I have 1.23 and seems to have pretty much the most used ones Gmail, Inbox , Maps, Drive and the works. Why is this a problem really?
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you see, we have a partition to cache ~ 500MB among some other partitions without even index (could be wrong), so I thought why not optimize available space by increasing the system partition ...

matheusgcdj said:
you see, we have a partition to cache ~ 500MB among some other partitions without even index (could be wrong), so I thought why not optimize available space by increasing the system partition ...
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Are you trying to odex a live ROM? if you are this the additional space can certainly be used. I guess you are right 100 M should be good of cache in any case I guess in most cases. MAybe we need to check with the larger games to determine how much cache they need.

KerDrooid said:
Are you trying to odex a live ROM? if you are this the additional space can certainly be used. I guess you are right 100 M should be good of cache in any case I guess in most cases. MAybe we need to check with the larger games to determine how much cache they need.
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because I want to know if there is a method to increase the system memory may be up to decreasing the data partition?

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recovery 250mb - problem

i've got HyperDroidGBX-v11 and i have only 150mb. i've installed recovery_250M but after installing that rom there is still 150mb. i need some help with this issue. please explain that very simply what to do. THX.
i think you misunderstand how it works, the 250 is the amount of space neeed on nand to install the rom, whats left is the 150
after i've installed HyperDroidGBX-v11 i go to storage settings and i've got there total space: 151mb and available space 118mb. after android restores all my programs i have only 40mb free space and after 1-2 weeks i've no storage space. i'd like to have about 100mb more for programs.
sounds about right if you are installing apps on the internal nand but it does say to use a 150CWM partition not a 250, that should gain you an extra 100meg straight off
i don't understand exactly what do you mean. can you just tell me how can i get more storage for apps please? is it possible at all?
you are using the wrong partition size for thew rom!!! you are lsoing 100meg by using the 250CWM you need a 150CWM as per the rom instructions...reflash using a 150CWM partition size and you will more free space
also sounds like you dont have an ext3/4 partition for use of a2sd
ok. i've changed recovery_250M to 150M and i have 67mb more. what is going to happen if i change 150M to 100M? do i get an extra 50mb free space?
bulla666 said:
ok. i've changed recovery_250M to 150M and i have 67mb more. what is going to happen if i change 150M to 100M? do i get an extra 50mb free space?
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The ROM probably wont load if you use a partition lower than recommended then you will have more problems. If you follow directions of the developer you will be fine.
bulla666 said:
ok. i've changed recovery_250M to 150M and i have 67mb more. what is going to happen if i change 150M to 100M? do i get an extra 50mb free space?
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akapaul26 said:
The ROM probably wont load if you use a partition lower than recommended then you will have more problems. If you follow directions of the developer you will be fine.
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Directions by dertester123
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11189394&postcount=1826
thanks guys. now i know how it works. i've had that before Eelkede but i didn't know why i have to change size to lower but now i understand, so everything is clear thanks!
I personally use the 100meg recovery size as the system size for v11 is very small have not ran into any problems. I believe he uses the 100meg file and recommends it.
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[Q] System partition

Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
stanangel said:
Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
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ok first go to market and download tpt helper.
then choose make your own tpt fill chache as 20 mb system(dont make it less it is recommended to use 20 mb on ics) as 210 mb(or as per ur choice but not less) and rest will be system.then click ok.
it will download the tpt and edit it accordingly.then check it it should have from the app there should be 10/12 matches.
then reboot.
press menu+power+vol up then green text fill flash and tpt will start on its own.
if there is a error at 99% down worry wait and then it will be success.
u r done.
just remember to have a rom on your sd.
there will be other options like choosing splash screen, recovery etc choose accordingly in the app.
u can even use your nandroids.
remember to delete image folder from sd after flash to prevent flashes by mistakes.
u r done enjoy
thanks saaransh9 i also want this info, voted up
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
stanangel said:
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
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When u set your partitions does it says finished if yes then it should be ok.
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
Rastaman2302 said:
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
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yes u can do that but the stock has 20 or 30 mb oem space which is a waste instead i get 210 mb system 210 data and 20 mb cache when i made my own tpt
How to check system partition???
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rohitzz said:
How to check system partition???
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You can use this.
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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1. No,you cannot.
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
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I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
ZeChe said:
I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
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You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
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karthiknr said:
You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
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No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
ZeChe said:
No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
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A2SD gives u lots of space. I have a 4 gig SD card with a 1 gig partition and I've 300 apps installed
Here's how u do it
-backup ur SD card
-boot into recovery
-select advanced
-partition SD card
-select size. recommended 1gb
-select swap size as 0. Select 32 if u use it for gaming
-reboot
-install s2e
-check all four boxes
-reboot
-start installing apps
(Tested with gingerbread roms)
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
karthiknr said:
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
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2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
Amphoras said:
If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
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I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
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Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
karthiknr said:
I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
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That's because ColdFusion didn't have the redirect script added yet. If you add that, then 2MB is fine for it as well.
ZeChe said:
Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
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I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
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I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
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I did that, reinstalled few apps and it works, thx.
Have one more question, if you all don't mind
I know that these questions sound stupid, but as I said, I'm new to all of this and have a strong will to learn.
Is it possible to switch this card with bigger one I have, without flashing ROM again?
If it is, I would apritiate If someone could point me to some guide, because I presume it is not easy task and I think I bothered you enought already.
If it isn't possible, can I then format new card on my PC,copy ROM on it, partition it from CM recovery and then install ROM and all of the apps?
Thx again

Resize partitions?

It's been bugging me for a while that the system partition sizes are so huge, and I only get a little over 9GB for actual storage. Specifially the cache, of which I'm only using 104/2037MB, and the system, of which I'm only using 485/2717MB.
Is there any way to resize these partitions to give me more room for storage? I'm looking into making a new partition on my sd card, but that still doesn't solve the stupidly huge cache/system partitions.
There is also the issue of the missing space. As far as I can tell, my phone only has 14892MB in total, not the advertised 16GB. I understand that usable space is frequently lower than advertised on storage devices, but this is a little bit too much.
I've researched this but couldn't find anything useful. Maybe my google-fu is low haha.
Thanks in advance.
Bump.
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I've been looking for a way to do this as well. I feel like I'm wasting at least a good 3gb that could be used for installing some larger games or something. As far as I can tell, there is a way to do it on another variant of the S4, involving using odin to flash a Chinese version of the stock rom(specifically the PIT file) which repartitions the storage. But it only works on that variant, and won't work for us. No way to do it on the sph-l720, at least none that I can find.
I was thinking I could reclaim some of the system partition by taking any apps that are essential to me, and converting them to system apps. But since the system partition gets wiped every time I update the rom, which is very frequently, that would be a disaster.

Get use out of the 2gb wasted /system space when using a custom ROM

Hello xda,
When you install a (lightweight) custom rom on a s4, you will easily have about 2gb of the /system partition unused (+plus a few gb more in some other partitions). It sums up to about 4.5gb (!) of unused space.
Changing the partition sizes using a modified pit file is impossible.
Converting user apps to system apps seems useless as updates are installed on the internal storage.
Can something be done using foldermount? (moving cache to one of those unused system partitions?)
What do you think is the best way to get use out of this wasted space?
Thank you in advance,
Pretty much the only thing you can do with that extra space is to flash another ROM on it and then you can dual boot any 2 ROMs.
You can have a TouchWiz ROM and a LineageOS ROM, or any other combination of 2 ROMs.
This is pretty much the only thing you can do. Even if you somehow move apps to /system, their data will still be written on the /data partition.
Also, /system is read-only by default.
nxss4 said:
What do you think is the best way to get use out of this wasted space?
Thank you in advance,
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Flash a bigger Gapps package. The Google apps will be installed on the system partition. Don't fill it completely, though.
Thank you for the replies guys! Dual booting is a good way to fill up space, indeed. But I'm really satisfied with RR 7.1.1. Maybe dualboating touchwiz for the camera is an idea, I will see!
Salut, thanks but I does it have any benefits? As updates will be installed on the internal storage anyway.
nxss4 said:
Salut, thanks but I does it have any benefits? As updates will be installed on the internal storage anyway.
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There's no reason to fill your phone up with a bunch of useless apps. Install the package that fits your needs most.
As you can convert user apps to system apps you can integrate updates to system partition too.
tset351 said:
As you can convert user apps to system apps you can integrate updates to system partition too.
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That's interesting, is there an automated way to do that? I did some research before starting this thread but couldn't find anything?
I like my phone to 'just work' (not like iphones) when I am busy
nxss4 said:
That's interesting, is there an automated way to do that? I did some research before starting this thread but couldn't find anything?
I like my phone to 'just work' (not like iphones) when I am busy
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Automated? Well, it's not an iPhone
With link2sd you can migrate apps and updates into system partition.
Good luck
tset351 said:
Automated? Well, it's not an iPhone
With link2sd you can migrate apps and updates into system partition.
Good luck
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Oh well, I'm going to look into that, I use apps2sd atm for foldermount, they don't have this option. I'm gonna try out link to sd, thanks!
UPDATE: It works flawlessly, thanks !
Just no automatic applying updates to system apps, but i guess I can live with that

Cache Partition stuck @ 60.5mb used

Why? It's been stuck at 60.5mb used and 1.2GB free according to Diskinfo forever now. Ever since I restored Madvane's unrooted B180 backup & then flashed root with Magisk.
Why does it bother me? Because I have no idea what I'm talking about and I feel like maybe Cache is storing in the Data Partition where I install my apps...? Is it?
Also with 1.2GB free in the Cache parition & 1.2GB free in the System Partition, can I just partition those and make the Data partition bigger for more available Internal Storage for apps and stuff? I mean I have external storage as default location but so many files still get installed on internal and I'd like to expand that if I could alter these partitions.
Anybody done that before or can answer my questions? Thanks! Images attached
Anyone ?
I have not read of anyone here repartitioning internal storage. I don't think it's as simple as repartitioning a PC hard drive with a GUI tool.
Do you have any tools in mind to do this repartitioning? I think it would be a highly risky operation, so be sure to make full backups and note all the original settings of existing partitions before repartitioning.
You can Google threads on people repartitioning internal storage for other phones, but note the ones who ran into problems and bricked their phones.
I wouldn't mess with the partition sizes, personally.. in theory it works, but it can trigger some arcane safeguards added by oems.
Try wiping the cache partition in twrp..? Could have gotten bugged, which would throw an error and require reformatting
Is there any indication of a problem with the cache partition?
It's biggest usage would be to download an OTA file, so unless that's happening, I would expect cache partition to remain remain mostly empty as OP reported. Probably what's in there is TWRP or stock recovery logs - you can confirm with a root file manager.
Wiping the cache partition as suggested won't harm anything and it would be interesting to know what it's reported usage is after wipe and reboot.
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Is there any indication of a problem with the cache partition?
It's biggest usage would be to download an OTA file, so unless that's happening, I would expect cache partition to remain remain mostly empty as OP reported. Probably what's in there is TWRP or stock recovery logs - you can confirm with a root file manager.
Wiping the cache partition as suggested won't harm anything and it would be interesting to know what it's reported usage is after wipe and reboot.
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I guess that was my question too. If there was any idication of an issue here. Seeing that free space I'd like to have it though.
On another note. There's no indication of anything being wrong with my Data partition but I formatted it to ext4 back when I bricked my phone in a hope it would fix something. But it seems fine. IDK what they default partition type was.
My data partition is ext4, which I believe is the stock default type.
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My data partition is ext4, which I believe is the stock default type.
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Thanks man you've been allot of help. Have you tried L-Speed? I'm thinking about trying it. I do have Kernel Auditiur installed. Don't use it.
Nothing is broke but thought about trying L-Speed.
Never heard of it. If you try it, let us know what you think.
WifiGhost said:
Thanks man you've been allot of help. Have you tried L-Speed? I'm thinking about trying it. I do have Kernel Auditiur installed. Don't use it.
Nothing is broke but thought about trying L-Speed.
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Never heard of it. If you try it, let us know what you think.
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I just tried it seems like a nice and easy way to tweak performance or battery.
I prefer kernel adiuator myself.. L Speed has too many generic settings which do next to nothing for actual performance, reminiscent of the many garbage tweak programs that have been out there for years. K.A. allowed for better control of the cpu governor settings, which allowed me to negate some of the impact of emui's 'battery optimization'. A little bit of entropy tweaking on top of that, and I no longer experience nearly the amount of choppiness

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