I have a weird question that I've tried to search on here and on google but maybe I'm just wording it wrong!? But basically I need a longer cable. I would like to get a Type A to Type C cable and take advantage of the many fast/regular charging ports I have at home. However I'm worried about ruining the device's battery in the long run. I know nothing about chargers and all that so I could just be paranoid? Let me know what u guys think
Basically to sum it up, I'm wondering can i use the fast charging block I got from the nexus 6? I know what cables work but I'm wondering mostly about the charging block end of it
I don't know if USB A/3.1 cables are rated for 3+ amps. I've used a 2 amp charger with a usb A/3.1 cable to USB C and it worked fine, but don't have a 3 amp USB A wallwort or USB C to A extender to try with the one that comes with the nexus.
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I don't know if USB A/3.1 cables are rated for 3+ amps. I've used a 2 amp charger with a usb A/3.1 cable to USB C and it worked fine, but don't have a 3 amp USB A wallwort or USB C to A extender to try with the one that comes with the nexus.
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Wouldn't the 3 amp be pointless as the phone only has charging 2.0? I could be way off with that statement by the way lol
I've got this A to C cable, and I love it: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iOrange-E-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFRCE
2m is a good length for me, and it works really well with my turbo charger from my Droid Turbo.
As far as a C to C that you can use with the charging brick that came with the 6P, this one would probably do the trick: http://www.amazon.com/TouchTonic-US...qid=1449102918&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+c+cable+2m
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I've got this A to C cable, and I love it: http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iOrange-E-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFRCE
2m is a good length for me, and it works really well with my turbo charger from my Droid Turbo.
As far as a C to C that you can use with the charging brick that came with the 6P, this one would probably do the trick: http://www.amazon.com/TouchTonic-US...qid=1449102918&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+c+cable+2m
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Thanks! The iOrange one is the same exact one I bought just now! I'm gonna use that cable with one of my Motorola fast chargers for the Nexus 6! Obviously it won't fast charge but it's good to know it won't harm my device!
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Wouldn't the 3 amp be pointless as the phone only has charging 2.0? I could be way off with that statement by the way lol
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Well the wall charger that comes with your nexus 6P outputs 3 amps.
And it does charge the phone a bit faster in my experience, than a 2 amp one does. I assume if the AtoC cable you got passes the tests and actually meets usb C spec it'll work fine with 3 amps though.
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Wouldn't the 3 amp be pointless as the phone only has charging 2.0? I could be way off with that statement by the way lol
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The 6p stock charger is rated 5 volts at 3 amps. So yea the phone was designed to utilize 3 amp current.
Source: I'm an electrical engineer.
Just to check, if I needed to a very long cord to charge with (I am happy to sacrifice fast charging for a longer cable) would using a regular charger (http://www.amazon.com/Cygnett-CY0355POGUS-Groove-Charger-Smartphones/dp/B00DMJ9U66/) with a USB-A Extension cable (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Pro-USB-Extension-Cable/dp/B0002Y6CYM/) and then a USB A-C cable (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WJSPFOW/) be good or would that harm things?
Basically the Extension would plug into the wall charger and then the USB A-C cable goes from the Extension cable to the phone.
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The 6p stock charger is rated 5 volts at 3 amps. So yea the phone was designed to utilize 3 amp current.
Source: I'm an electrical engineer.
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Ah good to know! Well at home I don't need fast charging so I'm gonna use the stock charger at work and the longer one at home! Thanks for the info guys
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Wouldn't the 3 amp be pointless as the phone only has charging 2.0? I could be way off with that statement by the way lol
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It has USB 2.0, which refers to data transfer speeds, which is a separate thing from the 3A charging.
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what car chargers will work with our phone? I saw someone had used a charger from a razr, but when I went to the store to check them out, the usb cable wouldn't fit, and I wasn't going to try to for the thing on there. Any ideas please?
I use a mini USB cable to the phone with a usb car charger.
You should look again. I use 2 old Razr chargers (1 home & 1 car) and they both fit perfectly. My old Htc diamond and touch pro chargers work too.
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You should look again. I use 2 old Razr chargers (1 home & 1 car) and they both fit perfectly.
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Depends on what razr you had. I think they changed the port to a micro usb in one version.
Like railstop said, find a GENERIC USB car charger. If you can find one that is just the car charger plug with USB port(rather then a non-detachable cord) then that is even better b/c you can plug any usb cable into it. USB A -> mini .... USB A -> micro ... USB A -> iPod
It doesn't matter. If you get the generic then you can also plug in any device that will charge off your computer.
If the charger is marked 1 A, it'll charge faster. Some of the mini USB chargers, for phones or BT headsets only charge at 300mAh or 700mAh. They'll charge, eventually, but a lot slower.
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If the charger is marked 1 A, it'll charge faster
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Good point. Some devices(not the hero) will complain that the charger is not compatible but 95% of them will still charge. They just throw up that warning b/c they will charge slower.
If you are constantly using GPS then you will want to hunt around for a 1 amp version because even with a 1A charger the hero's battery can't keep up with the drain of GPS and data for the navigation.
I too am using an old Moto car charger(not Razr). Just look for any USB mini car charger, don't get suckered into Sprint approved accessories. If you have an extra miniUSB cable, it may be better to get a generic USB car charger, so you can switch out when you get a new phone.
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Good point. Some devices(not the hero) will complain that the charger is not compatible but 95% of them will still charge. They just throw up that warning b/c they will charge slower.
If you are constantly using GPS then you will want to hunt around for a 1 amp version because even with a 1A charger the hero's battery can't keep up with the drain of GPS and data for the navigation.
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i went out and bought a generic moto charger that has the different adaptors on it, but it's charging slow as ****, to the point of pretty much not even seeming to charge. I also had a griffin usb charger that was doing the same thing. :grr:
Could a charger above 1000mA damage the phone? I have two gps mini-usb car chargers rated for 1500mA and 2000mA.
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Could a charger above 1000mA damage the phone? I have two gps mini-usb car chargers rated for 1500mA and 2000mA.
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No it wont matter. The phone will just draw 1 amp, the ratings are just maximums.
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No it wont matter. The phone will just draw 1 amp, the ratings are just maximums.
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Thank you.
I keep getting a red X Through my battery when plugged into my laptop to charge, is this normal? I really dont want to plug into the wall to charge
Really hope this doesn't become the case and that it will charge off of any USB charger...in particular like the one in my car that accepts USB Devices.
My friend has a galaxy and has the same issue, idk if its our laptops or what
Okay this has been address. please search but ill answer for you.
This device uses 5v 2a to charge. Hence the wall unit. you computer is 5v 1a or 1.5a (its not enough)
The device will maintain and in some cases when screen off slowly charge when plugged into computer or usb adaptor with the red "x" through it.
you can find a usb adapter cable which has a switch to allow you to charge while connected to a computer. its a data and charge switch. search for it. i think its on ebay.
also you can find on amazon or google shopping wall chargers for the p1000 which work for like 8$
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Okay this has been address. please search but ill answer for you.
This device uses 5v 2a to charge. Hence the wall unit. you computer is 5v 1a or 1.5a (its not enough)
The device will maintain and in some cases when screen off slowly charge when plugged into computer or usb adaptor with the red "x" through it.
you can find a usb adapter cable which has a switch to allow you to charge while connected to a computer. its a data and charge switch. search for it. i think its on ebay.
also you can find on amazon or google shopping wall chargers for the p1000 which work for like 8$
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thanks, and thats very disappointing
DroidHam said:
thanks, and thats very disappointing
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its not disappointing at all.what other tegra2 tablet can even trickle charge through USB 2.0?
madsquabbles said:
its not disappointing at all.what other tegra2 tablet can even trickle charge through USB 2.0?
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My xoom could.
DroidHam said:
My xoom could.
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my 4 didn't and neither does a bunch of other peoples xooms. even if it did it would only charge at the same rate as the gt10.1 charges - 5 watts. that's the max USB 2.0 spec.
It should be easily solved with a 2 x male 1 x female usb cable
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-19158458583166_2164_10126151
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I keep getting a red X Through my battery when plugged into my laptop to charge, is this normal? I really dont want to plug into the wall to charge
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It charges through usb when the tab is powered off.
zaphyr said:
It should be easily solved with a 2 x male 1 x female usb cable
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-19158458583166_2164_10126151
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Where does one buy said cable?
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Where does one buy said cable?
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Depends on your country I guess, I bought mine from Dustinhome.se:
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010312807.aspx
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It charges through usb when the tab is powered off.
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even with it on it'll charge slowly.
Those double cables are cheap (around £3 in the UK) so I might pick up a couple of those and leave them at work and in the car
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Where does one buy said cable?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-2-0-Fem...871?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ba21e847
Having this Y-cable will also help with the fact that the USB cable that came with the tablet is so sort. I have a lot of 5V power supplies around but they are all from 50ma to 1a. Can't believe this thing needs to much power to charge, I would think that 1a would be enough just to maintain it when in use.
OK, I got a couple Y/Split cables and I still have red X when plugged into two USB ports, I even tried two ports that are on different controllers... as well as two USB3 ports in my laptop. I even tried my desktop. No luck.
Has anyone gotten this to work?
I posted in the accessories section about this subject, see here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14890063&postcount=16
and here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14922116&postcount=27
The red x will show up if you are charging with anything under 2A. If I remember correctly usb 1 puts out 100ma and usb 2 & 3 put out 500ma. Even with a Y adapter you will only get 1A. If the screen is off then you will charge the battery however with the screen on, you are using the same amount of power that the usb is providing. Therefore the x because the battery is not charging.
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The red x will show up if you are charging with anything under 2A. If I remember correctly usb 1 puts out 100ma and usb 2 & 3 put out 500ma.
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With the adapter I posted about above, I never see the red x and I am charging off USB 2.
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To be clear, I am using a 10.1v not a 10.1 - there could be differences, but I doubt it.
As I sit here and wait for my phone to get here...9 more days...how long is the charging time from a battery with 20% charge? Also does the port have the same connection as a droid X? I am really not looking forward to having to change my chargers...lol
I use a 2 amp charger, gets the job done really quick
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As I sit here and wait for my phone to get here...9 more days...how long is the charging time from a battery with 20% charge? Also does the port have the same connection as a droid X? I am really not looking forward to having to change my chargers...lol
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From 20%?
About 2 hours
The connection is micro usb which is the same as the droid x. You should be able to keep your droid X charger and use it as a spare or a work charger.
I use juice plotter still on my phones. at about 20% left on the battery, it always gives about 2.5 - 3.0 as the expected time to 100% charge when using the OEM charger that shipped with the phone.
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I use a 2 amp charger, gets the job done really quick
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I have a 2A charger and am curious how quick is "really quick"? Thanks.
Hrm, might need to pic up a 2a charger.
What 2a charger are you guys talking about? My oem charger takes forever and a day to charge. And through the computer's usb port, forget it!!
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What 2a charger are you guys talking about? My oem charger takes forever and a day to charge. And through the computer's usb port, forget it!!
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A charger that can provide 2 Amp current. A lot of the wall chargers are spec'ed at 1 Amp. The USB port on a PC gives only 0.5 A, or even 0.1 Amp depends on the port or if the PC is powered or on battery. I also saw some microUSB cable is spec'ed as can handle 2A. Note sure how much difference it makes.
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A charger that can provide 2 Amp current. A lot of the wall chargers are spec'ed at 1 Amp. The USB port on a PC gives only 0.5 A, or even 0.1 Amp depends on the port or if the PC is powered or on battery. I also saw some microUSB cable is spec'ed as can handle 2A. Note sure how much difference it makes.
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Right but I'm trying to find out which charger in particular you're talking about. I'd love to buy one. Are there any that come with an extra battery as part of a combo pack or something like that?
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Right but I'm trying to find out which charger in particular you're talking about. I'd love to buy one. Are there any that come with an extra battery as part of a combo pack or something like that?
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The one I have came with the HP Touchpad. So no mine doesn't come with any extra battery. Apparently you can get it here but I didn't personally get it from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/HP-North-American-Charger-TouchPad/dp/B0055QYJJM
Can you use a regular micro usb charger in place of a 3.0 cable?
Thank you for the help
Yes, no problem. In fact with my S5 there is only a usb 2 cable supplied.
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Can you use a regular micro usb charger in place of a 3.0 cable?
Thank you for the help
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Yup, you sure can.
Just an FYI: The USB3 cable is in fact micro USB as well. It's just the USB3 version of microUSB. The USB3 port on the phone is backward compatible, so a USB2 cable will work just fine in there. :good:
Yep it will work
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So which will charge quicker the stock charger or my nexus 7 charger?
I think they are both 2 amp chargers. What is the advantage of the extra plug on the charger?
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So which will charge quicker the stock charger or my nexus 7 charger?
I think they are both 2 amp chargers. What is the advantage of the extra plug on the charger?
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It's USB 3.0. You'll get faster data transfer speeds when plugged into a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
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So which will charge quicker the stock charger or my nexus 7 charger?
I think they are both 2 amp chargers. What is the advantage of the extra plug on the charger?
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faster data transfer rate.
OK thanks.
So the charging rate is the same depending on the "block" amps?
I think the USB 3.0 charges faster even if it's still the same 2A charger
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OK thanks.
So the charging rate is the same depending on the "block" amps?
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It would seem so, yes. In re: max charging amps, it seems that the S5, much like the Note 3, will charge only at 1200mA while the screen is on and 1800mA otherwise. See discussion here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...48184-galaxy-note-3-max-charging-current.html
To the OP, thanks for starting the thread... I hadn't even realized that the new Micro USB 3.0 connector actually was backwards compatible with the older MicroUSB 2.0 for charging!
Great link thanks!
Yep Confirmed!
I have the Anker PowerPort 2 that has a max of 2.4 amps per port and a Nekteck USB Type C to Type A cable (that's tested and approved by Benson). When trying to charge, the max mA that I've seen is around 1550mA.
Why is that? I was expecting around the max of ~2400,mA
I actually ordered this exact combo on Amazon, curious to test it myself.
Are you using Ampere to measure? If so, before plugging in the cable, you need to note the discharging rate (some negative mA). Then plug in the phone and note the charging rate. You have to add the two numbers together to get the actual amperage from the charger because Ampere can only measure the overall system in/out amperage. So if you were doing something really intensive and plugged into a slow charger, you may see it say "Charging" but have a negative number!
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I actually ordered this exact combo on Amazon, curious to test it myself.
Are you using Ampere to measure? If so, before plugging in the cable, you need to note the discharging rate (some negative mA). Then plug in the phone and note the charging rate. You have to add the two numbers together to get the actual amperage from the charger because Ampere can only measure the overall system in/out amperage. So if you were doing something really intensive and plugged into a slow charger, you may see it say "Charging" but have a negative number!
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I forgot to mention that stuff! Yes, I am using Ampere and discharge is around -150 to -300mA. The average discharge rate and average charge rate added together (around ~1800mA) still comes up quite a bit short. Hope the combo works out for you. Or at least confirm my findings.
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I forgot to mention that stuff! Yes, I am using Ampere and discharge is around -150 to -300mA. The average discharge rate and average charge rate added together (around ~1800mA) still comes up quite a bit short. Hope the combo works out for you. Or at least confirm my findings.
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Huh... I wish that Google engineer would clarify things. Myself and others have been discussing the Type-C spec over here and the documents seem to indicate that a Type-A to Type-C cable that has the proper identifying resistor would be limited to drawing 1.5A. I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Also, try measuring the discharge for a minute or two. I've seen mine settle in around -1000mA if I let it sit awhile. But then, I don't know if that's accurate...
Man, this is such a mess. I got an Aukey 12W / 2.4A Home Travel USB Wall Charger just to see if it there was something wrong with the Anker charger. Nope. The Aukey floats around 1600mA too...
For good measure, I used the supplised USB Type-C to USB A cable - same charge rate. Then I used the charger and C to C - that floats around 2700mA.
Are there any 2.4A chargers that actually charge at that rate?!?!
The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. Only a type C-C will charge at up to 3A. Please Google/search the forum next time before creating an OP. It doesn't matter if you use a Type A to C cable with a 5V. 4A charger it will only give you 1.5A by the USB charging standard. If you use a C-C cable you can get the Max rate
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The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. Only a type C-C will charge at up to 3A. Please Google/search the forum next time before creating an OP. It doesn't matter if you use a Type A to C cable with a 5V. 4A charger it will only give you 1.5A by the USB charging standard. If you use a C-C cable you can get the Max rate
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Hey, good idea.
So for Benson's review of the cable, he says, "...you should be able to charge from a range of .5A to 2.4A using this cable." I guess he should've been the one to "please Google/search the forum."
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Hey, good idea.
So for Benson's review of the cable, he says, "...you should be able to charge from a range of .5A to 2.4A using this cable." I guess he should've been the one to "please Google/search the forum."
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Yes but he goes on to say in other reviews that the USB A-C standard dictates the output of the cable.
As discussed thoroughly in 2 different OP's which you can find below.
Here is a quote from @Elnrik
"No, when I say proprietary protocols, I mean protocols. Not physical wiring. As in "2.4A, which is negotiated over a BC1.2 protocol like CDP or DCP, is appropriate over the Type-A connector." and "By the way, the maximum current of 1.5A is defined by the BC1.2 specification for CDP and DCP, but in practice, a range of other current values are possible using Apple's proprietary protocol or other protocols that bump up the defacto maximum current with a Type A connector on one end up to 2.4A". ~ Benson Leung. The evidence of 2.4A charging on compliant cables is out there, I invite you to google it for yourself. Unless you wish to continue to willfully ignore that. Up to you."
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Please direct yourself to these OP's and read through them so you understand where I am coming from.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685
I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........
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I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........
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Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C charger and c-c cable.
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I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........
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Yeah, I had a couple OnePlus cables early on - weeks before I had the 6P. When I saw that they weren't certified and could do damage, I stopped using them right away. Wasted ~$8 unfortunately.
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Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C wall charger and c-c cable.
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Waiting for (more) legit reviews for quality Type-C chargers. Should be soon.
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Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C charger and c-c cable.
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The charger is rated for 2.4A.
Unless you have a crap charger it's got current limiting circuitry. Not likely ro damage it using it for its rated output.
I doubt I'll burn the cable up.
I have a MSEE so I know how power supplies and cables work.
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The charger is rated for 2.4A.
Unless you have a crap charger it's got current limiting circuitry. Not likely ro damage it using it for its rated output.
I doubt I'll burn the cable up.
I have a MSEE so I know how power supplies and cables work.
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The point I have been making is that the resistor in the Op cable is incorrect. This means the phone will attempt to pull 3A even though the charger/cable aren't rated for it. This would clearly cause an issue. I haven't seen any out of spec cable hold a 3A rating with the correct resistors and actually deliver it from a A-C cable. I'm nor saying your wrong I'm simply stating that this has been brought up by many people who are just as qualified. I've taken some EE course myself being an engineering student an all, but this doesn't mean I know enough to make a 100% correct assessment of the cable/charger situation. If it wasn't an issue we would see reports of chargers burning out so there is an issue somewhere
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Yeah, I had a couple OnePlus cables early on - weeks before I had the 6P. When I saw that they weren't certified and could do damage, I stopped using them right away. Wasted ~$8 unfortunately.
Waiting for (more) legit reviews for quality Type-C chargers. Should be soon.
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The Choetech was reported to deliver the specified 3A about an hour ago in the accessories subforum. You can check there with the member who has it under the 'type c chargers' OP