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Hello, you surely already know about the 120fps-Recording of the Note 3. [TAGS TO THIS THREAD: SlowMo|SloMo|Record|Video|Speed]
Like (almost) any other Slow-Motion-Camera, there's something, that really disappoints me!
What disappoints me:
If you record a Slow·Mothion-Video, then the Video will be saved as Slow Motion too!
-Better: Save in Original Speed and in the Player you can slow down - and choose if the Sound keeps the pitch-level while speed adjustment.
IF i record 4 seconds @ 120 Fps, then i want to get a 4sec. Video with 120·FPS.
and not a 16 seconds-video with 30 fps with lost sound.
What i'd like: Save in Original Speed and Includes Sound while Recording!
But even worse: If you get asked to edit the video after that - INFORMATION WILL BE THROWN AWAY!
Well... Xperia Z2 includes the Sound and the WHOLE Scene but the Slown-Down parts
The not-slown-down parts will be saved at normal framerate, so information gets lost.#
The Output file has 30 Fps.
„An Example“ said:
Here's one good example -
IF i record one hour Slow-Motion at 100 Frames per Second, then i don't want 4 Hours with 25 Frames-per-Second in the Output-File.
The outputfle must have Sound and 100 Frames per Second and must be 3600 seconds long in this example!
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But the manufacturers think, that all the people like the sucking method!
The sucking method example:
I record 10-Seconds in real-time at 480 fps.
Then the output file has a length of 2 Minutes and 40 Seconds with 30 fps.
Then the Output-File isn't in real time.
That does suck! This sucks!
I want output file with no information loss (full framerate) but at real time with REAL 480 fps.
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What you'd probably think right now:
Just play the Video at a higher speed in the Video Player!
My Answer:
Oh, i'm soo lucky, that 60 fps at real time is possible! With sound!
I simply want an output file without information loss.
Now what you'd think:
Well, that not-realtime-video which is slown down does have ALL Frames!
My answer - Well, yes... but then in the Video-Specs
What i'd simply wish:
If i record a Video (example: 00:00:10, 96 fps) then i want an output file with the SAME SPECIIFICATIONS.
What i don't want:
If i record a Video (00:00:00:10, 96fps) then i get a Video with a Length of 40 Seconds and 24 Frames per Second.!
NOW DON'T SAY:
„Why is slow-motion called SLOW-Motion?
Because you want to get a Video with SLOW-Motion!“
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Then my answer would(avtuallý ) be:
My Personal answer:„Well... ýes but this is what I want. And it is more pratique! The players display real-time-equivalent speeds (1.00x Playing Speed= Original RealTime-Equivalent Speed ) and a Higher Bitrate/REAL second would be maybe worse for devices with weaker processingPower but the filesize would be the same. (4x Higher bitrate but 4x shorter video. Why not 5x higher bitrate? Less detail-loss! (WooHooo!)) “
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Suprised this hasn't been mentioned before, this will be very useful.
@celderic: Thank you very much!
celderic said:
Suprised this hasn't been mentioned before, this will be very useful.
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THank you SOoooooooooo much for UnderStanding mee!
:d :laugh:
Read this post to avoid mistunderstandings...!
Now what you'd think:
Well, that not-realtime-video which is slown down does have ALL Frames!
My answer - Well, yes... but then in the Video-Specs
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I Forgot to finish writing here!
Both Videos ([email protected]) and [email protected] both have ALL Frames.
But the RealTime-Equivalent Video with REAL 120 fps is simply better!
Well, it's got 4x higher bitrate but is also 4x shorter.
So the Quality will be approxmintly the same.
If you see a 50fps or 60fps Video (real time), then you'll see how awesome smoothly it is!
120fps at 720p ([email protected] 120/100fps for LUMIX FƵ1000, great!) has a little bit lower resuoloution but runs even more smoothly.
Which mode you choose depends on situration.
4k is for detailed moments if 24-30fps is smoot enough but 60fps for a little bit more movier moments...
120fps is useless because there's no sound and the output file is slown doen.
120fps would be useful in some sitouarations, if the output file would have a RealTime-Equivalen-Speed (1.00x Plaýback Speed ≜ 1x Realtime Speed) and also sound, in the Full Microphone-Quality of the device(can do.!).
Did you know... ?
In (the )most more Advanced Players (Windows and Android) you can slow down playing. 0.125x/12,5%/⅛ Playback speed are also ⅛ in REAL WORLD.
Hannah Stern said:
I Forgot to finish writing here!
Both Videos ([email protected]) and [email protected] both have ALL Frames.
But the RealTime-Equivalent Video with REAL 120 fps is simply better!
Well, it's got 4x higher bitrate but is also 4x shorter.
So the Quality will be approxmintly the same.
If you see a 50fps or 60fps Video (real time), then you'll see how awesome smoothly it is!
120fps at 720p ([email protected] 120/100fps for LUMIX FƵ1000, great!) has a little bit lower resuoloution but runs even more smoothly.
Which mode you choose depends on situration.
4k is for detailed moments if 24-30fps is smoot enough but 60fps for a little bit more movier moments...
120fps is useless because there's no sound and the output file is slown doen.
120fps would be useful in some sitouarations, if the output file would have a RealTime-Equivalen-Speed (1.00x Plaýback Speed ≜ 1x Realtime Speed) and also sound, in the Full Microphone-Quality of the device(can do.!).
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In the Sucking method:
4x or 8x Playback Speed= Original Speed in the Reality. And no sound. I hate that.
[Hide="Did you know - ?"]So did ýou know? : that you can slow down in more advanced players? And they show those REAL-TIME-EQUILEVANT speeds. 0,25x Playback Speed= 0.25x Real-Time-Eq. Speed! Better method!
And it's quite stupid to think, that everybody likes a slown-down output file - and even without sound (mutid). Muted sound=lost sound information in [umgebung] and 4x playback speed = 1x Speed in Real world? - „Oh no!“ But those manutfacturers think, that everybody likes it. What do you think of it? Simply post it![/HIDE]
So you just need to slow down inside of the player, to see all those small moves.
I find that(/this) better - ... ¡
TItle;: - Note 3 Camera - Slow Mothion Function - Original (real·time) Speed! -–-?
This is simply the [FONT="Courier New"[COLOR="Blue"]]the [/FONT]more
[/COLOR]pracctique waý! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ·! - ·
What do YOU think is better?
How i'd like to have it or the way, the manufacturers do it?
You actually know, what i'd like tO0!
Is the method (that the Manufacturers use) [REALLÝ] BETTER?
...and WHAT is the Advantage of the method, that i don't like soo much for slow motion?
I don't think so- every player must have a Feature for Slow Down, Reverse Playback:laugh: and Ƶoom while Playing/Pause/Preview Frame. (Rotation is very Funny.)
And it must have a Feature to adjust sound mode at Speedup/Slow down! (Keep Original pitch or make it Lower/Higher at Slowdown/Speedup.)
And it may also would be a good idea to use te trick in the Média Players, which one the High-Advanced SmartTV's - „Calculating“ the Frame(s) between 2 Frames. (Works almost perfect for flowent running text ).
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...and WHAT is the Advantage of the method, that i don't like soo much for slow motion?
I don't think so- every player must have a Feature for Slow Down, Reverse Playback:laugh: and Ƶoom while Playing/Pause/Preview Frame. (Rotation is very Funny.)
And it must have a Feature to adjust sound mode at Speedup/Slow down! (Keep Original pitch or make it Lower/Higher at Slowdown/Speedup.)
And it may also would be a good idea to use te trick in the Média Players, which one the High-Advanced SmartTV's - „Calculating“ the Frame(s) between 2 Frames. (Works almost perfect for flowent running text ).
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WooHooooooooooooo! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: 256 Posts!!!!!
If the Slow Motion would be, like i described here, then making Slow Motion Videos would be a much bigger fun.
Example Videos:
Here is an example of what i 'd like.:
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testber...100-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video05.MP4
XAVCS-Coding
With Audio
Real Time 100fps (eqilevant to sensor output.) ☺☻☺♦
But THAT'S what i don't want:
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testber...-fz1000/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video04.MP4
No Audio
And not Real Time Slow motion. (Sensor: 100 fps, File: 25 fps, really Sucks)
One of the Most shocking things of GSMArena - (in my opinion)
Look here, at the end of the page: http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-apple-iphone-5s-is-not-actually-recording-720p-slo-mo-video/
What i want to talk about is not that with the 480p but...
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The slow motion clips might look cool on your iPhone, but they look quite disappointing on a TV or a monitor. Which reminds us of our other disappointment about the feature – when we tried to play those iPhone 5s slo-mo videos on a PC we found that unlike all previous slow motion-capable smartphones, the iPhone 5s actually encodes the video at 120 fps and your computer will play it on 120fps unless you explicitly force it to slow the video four times in order to achieve the desired slow-motion effect. It would have been way more natural the iPhone 5s to process the frames and output a standard 30fps video as most of the phones do, which doesn’t require special players and tools to play properly.
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I didn't know before, that iPhones save with ORIGINAL FRAMERATE and SOUND.
But their opinion is, that the sucking method:laugh: is actually better!
I can actually also understand what they mean, but is there any other reason? ...for the sucking method of taking Slow-Motion Videos
For me it's actually not a disappointment - well done Apple! :laugh:
Im gégenteil - das finde ich toll!
I hope, that all (of) the other manufacturers do the same!
...Canon SX50hs and Sony RX100 :good: DMC-FZ1000 very good camera with [email protected] [Output file 30fps and muted sound ; ( :crying: ]
GSMAréÀ said:
Here’s hoping Apple fixes this promptly with an update – it certainly can’t be that hard.
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Oh no PLEASE NOT!
the standard 30fps video as most of the other phones do
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That's too bad.
I respect other opinions. But i prefer my described way to take Slow Motio Videos.
So all the best, and have a nice day!
Ok, Nice Feautre! :laugh:
You can download the original video here - 720p @ 120fps (8MB). You'll need a player capable of reducing the framerate to experience the slowdown, the video itself runs realtime.
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This time, i'm really proud of Apple.
Plesae, learn something from here, other manufacturers that do it wrong.
.upscaling from 480p to 720p is still better than taking „SUCKING “ slow-motion videos.. <·
„Piche-Level“ [EXPLAINED]
Hannah Stern said:
Hello, you surely already know about the 120fps-Recording of the Note 3. [TAGS TO THIS THREAD: SlowMo|SloMo|Record|Video|Speed]
Almost every Slow-Motion Capable Device does the Same mistake.
What disappoints me:
If you record a Slow·Mothion-Video, then the Video will be saved as Slow Motion too!
►Better: Save in Original Speed and speed adjustment comes inside of the player
- and being able to choose if the Sound keeps the pitch-level while speed adjustment.
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and choose if the Sound keeps the pitch-level while speed adjustment ...inside of the Player.
Pitch-Level
2.0x Playback Speed - 2.0x or always keep x1.0 Pitch Level?
For example: VLC Always keeps x1.0, indipendant from Playback Speed. But MPC-HC► makes the Pitch-Level dependent from the Playback Speed (► x2.0 = ♫♪x2.0)
Pitch Level is Tone Height. aka Pitchbend.
AKA=Also Known As
Have a Nice day
Isssue 4ever
I can't really believe that the new Galaxy Notes alos have this issue.
No Sound and not Realtime.
...
Hrm...
Many manufacturers embarrass theirself by doing the same mistake but good the luck 1[email protected] with sound and realtime is possible.:laugh:
I can't believe that the FƵ1000 and the 255 HS also have that issue.
But the SX50 HS and the RX100/3 are completly free of this issue .
...also, the S5 (not the Note 4) are able to adjust the Playback-Speed in the player...
and... duh, forgot what.
Have a nice day
Links and Info
The Canon IXUS 256 HS would be actually nice - it IS nice. (And also low noise at high iso and full resolution iSO6k)
...but it has this again.
Look here, many people also want AUDIO on Slow Motion.
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3,4,5
Link 6
One Advantage
If you want to see the Slow-Motion effect on a Friendly RT-Slow Motion (Output file is the Same as Sensor Records), you've got to slow down inside of the player to see the Slow-Motion effect. And also... not every player has this feature.
This is a big advantage of the Sucking Method but i think, that it's really the one and only advantage.
My New Thread
New Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500
If you want, you can still write here!
(With the word „Writing“, i meant „Posting“)
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Hello friends
I used the following method to play 1080p videos without lag.
MKV format and many are not completely supported by Android itself. So when we play high quality Videos it lags.
Step 1. I used the software HANDBRAKE, it is an awesome converter. https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
Step 2. After installing select the source file to convert which is originally 1080p .
Step 3. Now go to the video tab and select the following settings
Video Codec: H.264
Framerate : Constant ( reliable)
variable
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
H.264 Profile: Main
High Profile
H.264 level : 4.0 or 4.1 (better)
Right hand side : Make the Quality 22
You can change audio codec too according to your wish.
You can experiment which setting works awesome.
I gave the settings i use.
I know this is not anything new. I made this OP for those who don't know.
Feedbacks are always welcome
@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
vinay001 said:
@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
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Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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okay i''ll try that when i go back to CM with HW encoder.....
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@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
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First of all @nilanko you are completely wrong about saying that lollipop kernel doesn't support 1080p videos, it supports completely and we have enough hardware to support 1080p. Mx player cant support hw on mkv and other. but if you try my way it will work.
I already said the reason for it many formats are not supported and h.264 is best codec.
Try my procedure if it doesnt work let me know,
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Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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Hey boy, i am not degrading video resolution here that it will degrade, it wont degrade and instead it will enhance the quality. i guess you speak without knowledge.
I think the main difference is this setting :
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
As per handbrake, this setting should be used with very weak CPU's only (which motoE definitely has).
from h(t)(t)ps: //mattgadient.com /2013/06/12/a-best-settings-guide-for-handbrake-0-9-9/ :
Fast Decode (checkbox)
Usually you do *not* want this checked. A few exceptions:
Check it if you’re trying to play your videos on an older computer that struggles to decode H264.
Check it if playing videos on an older device that struggles to decode H264.
You could optionally check it if uploading to YouTube or other video-sharing sites. It may make it quicker for the site to decode it and put your video up. It’s usually not necessary.
It disables a few H264/x264 optimizations, making it easier to play but at the expense of a larger file (or lower quality if using an average bitrate). Since most recent computers/devices have built-in hardware support for these optimizations, you usually don’t need to bother with it. If you find that playback on your favorite device is choppy, try checking this though.
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So i guesss the learning is that we can use this option, but choose a higher bitrate. The file size would be larger than original, but the quality would be same, and it would play smoothly. Of course, If there is no GPU decoding, then the CPU would be used, which would burn through battery.
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First of all @nilanko you are completely wrong about saying that lollipop kernel doesn't support 1080p videos, it supports completely and we have enough hardware to support 1080p. Mx player cant support hw on mkv and other. but if you try my way it will work.
I already said the reason for it many formats are not supported and h.264 is best codec.
Try my procedure if it doesnt work let me know,
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Condor doesn't support 1080p video playback. It is specified by Motorola if you ever read the specs in detail. Neither the CPU nor the GPU is made for 1080p playback. Although there is enough power at the GPU side but still it can't play very high bitrate and high FPS videos without lag. That's why Motorola has specified it as fullHD unsupported.
OK, I was a bit wrong, I meant to say lollipop kernel doesn't support hardware decoding on many formats/codecs (1080p) but kitkat did. I could play most 1080p vids on kitkat with the stock player itself whereas on stock LP, I can't. With MXPlayer on Kitkat, all 1080p played seamlessly unlike Lollipop. MXPlayer supports everything. It's just the stock LP kernel's limitation. I have experimented a hell lot.
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Hey boy, i am not degrading video resolution here that it will degrade, it wont degrade and instead it will enhance the quality. i guess you speak without knowledge.
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Look Sid, I'm not trying to say your method is bad. But if you look closely at my post, you'll notice that I never ever said you are lowering the resolution. Quality=bitrate. You are lowering down the bitrate (aka quality) (Why did you set it at 22?). You can never "enhance" the quality of an existing video just by increasing the bitrate. It'll do nothing more than increasing the file size. You can only degrade the quality which you are already doing. And yeah, I just noticed that the program itself says "placebo". So it's a proof and its pretty much evident. You can lower down the quality a bit but you'll never notice the degradation of quality that's why they call it "placebo". But if you have tiger eyes like me, you can tell the difference. Lowering the bitrate means lower processing power is required for decoding the video into its components. N hence, you're playing them lag free now incase they used to lag. N yeah, changing codec and formats n all that also gives you the advantage of being able to play them on GPU. But lowering the quality is not a good option. Everything you're doing is okay other than the quality thing.
Besides, this not a feasible solution because not everyone carries a computer with them everywhere and even if they do, they won't go through this hectic process of converting each video, atleast not me. I just want all my fullHD vids to play without hassle and Moto E does that very well. If I'm on custom ROM, all need is MXPLayer. And for stock users, use BSPlayer n choose its own hardware decoder. Simple solution, works flawlessly and better than anything. Then why would I sit and convert videos when BSPlayer can play all my vids rightaway?
@nilanko
easy boy. maybe he doesnt know that much about videos and bitrate
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Condor doesn't support 1080p video playback. It is specified by Motorola if you ever read the specs in detail. Neither the CPU nor the GPU is made for 1080p playback. Although there is enough power at the GPU side but still it can't play very high bitrate and high FPS videos without lag. That's why Motorola has specified it as fullHD unsupported.
OK, I was a bit wrong, I meant to say lollipop kernel doesn't support hardware decoding on many formats/codecs (1080p) but kitkat did. I could play most 1080p vids on kitkat with the stock player itself whereas on stock LP, I can't. With MXPlayer on Kitkat, all 1080p played seamlessly unlike Lollipop. MXPlayer supports everything. It's just the stock LP kernel's limitation. I have experimented a hell lot.
Look Sid, I'm not trying to say your method is bad. But if you look closely at my post, you'll notice that I never ever said you are lowering the resolution. Quality=bitrate. You are lowering down the bitrate (aka quality) (Why did you set it at 22?). You can never "enhance" the quality of an existing video just by increasing the bitrate. It'll do nothing more than increasing the file size. You can only degrade the quality which you are already doing. And yeah, I just noticed that the program itself says "placebo". So it's a proof and its pretty much evident. You can lower down the quality a bit but you'll never notice the degradation of quality that's why they call it "placebo". But if you have tiger eyes like me, you can tell the difference. Lowering the bitrate means lower processing power is required for decoding the video into its components. N hence, you're playing them lag free now incase they used to lag. N yeah, changing codec and formats n all that also gives you the advantage of being able to play them on GPU. But lowering the quality is not a good option. Everything you're doing is okay other than the the quality thing.
Besides, this not a feasible solution because not everyone carries a computer with them everywhere and even if they do, they won't go through this hectic process of converting each video, atleast not me. I just want all my fullHD vids to play without hassle and Moto E does that very well. If I'm on custom ROM, all need is MXPLayer. And for stock users, use BSPLayer n choose its own hardware decoder. Simple solution, works flawlessly and better than anything. Then why would I sit and convert videos when BSPlayer can play all my vids rightaway?
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First of all show me where Motorola posted these.
Nextly its not placebo till 24 level if you increase more than that its placebo. I made it 22 as its best setting. And please keep your tiger eyes with you.
This post is for everyone if you don't know how it works don't spoil my OP by typing extra long non sense. It others try and give feedback. You don't like then stay away. Don't ruin it.
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@nilanko
easy boy. maybe he doesnt know that much about videos and bitrate
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I know more than you both and first try the thing before commenting.
mayankleoboy1 said:
I think the main difference is this setting :
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
As per handbrake, this setting should be used with very weak CPU's only (which motoE definitely has).
from h(t)(t)ps: //mattgadient.com /2013/06/12/a-best-settings-guide-for-handbrake-0-9-9/ :
So i guesss the learning is that we can use this option, but choose a higher bitrate. The file size would be larger than original, but the quality would be same, and it would play smoothly. Of course, If there is no GPU decoding, then the CPU would be used, which would burn through battery.
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Finally a senseable person is here.
Yes you are right
I had tried different combination before and finslised the best setting
Other thing which makes difference is H.264 and profile
The quality remains like 1080p but runs fasts without a single lag but people here don't understand what they say.
Alright, this is not World War III. So I'm happily shutting my mouth.
@SidDev does this file play Smoothly, I tried in mx player not smooth it lags and can't switch to Hw it says not supported I'm on latest mx player build on Stock 5.1 does it work on Cm 12.1
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@nilanko man u were right i tried 1080p files on CM 12.1 it plays smoothly on default video player man, wow im shocked stock doesn't even play smoothly on Mx player, found that in stock 1080p videos don't preview in gallery btw not happened this issue in Kitkat stock
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@nilanko man u were right i tried 1080p files on CM 12.1 it plays smoothly on default video player man, wow im shocked stock doesn't even play smoothly on Mx player, found that in stock 1080p videos don't preview in gallery btw not happened this issue in Kitkat stock
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Yup I know, I had experimented a hell lot with all these and yeah they don't even preview! Kitkat was much better in these regards. They don't play smoothly on stock LP because they are decoded by CPU and LP doesn't allow hardware decoding (GPU) of 1080p mp4 videos (don't know about other formats/codecs) out of the box. This is gonna disappoint the general public a lot because they don't really know how to get them working unlike us. This is really a bad step taken by Motorola devs.
See what i did
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@SidDev does this file play Smoothly, I tried in mx player not smooth it lags and can't switch to Hw it says not supported I'm on latest mx player build on Stock 5.1 does it work on Cm 12.1 View attachment 3382820View attachment 3382821
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See my video which is also 1080p see the difference and codec
when i downloaded it was only 50 mb then i converted using the Hand Brake to my settings in OP.
When i downloaded it originally it was lagging now it is smooth as butter. Please stop blaming Lollipop. Remember that the lollipop we are using is still soak test and it might have problems.
Just do as i said in OP and see the difference.
@SidDev don't knw mate I have converted my file in handbrake it doesn't play, after installing Cm original and converted files play smoothly...
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@SidDev don't knw mate I have converted my file in handbrake it doesn't play, after installing Cm original and converted files play smoothly...
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If you converted from Handbrake then your SW Codec would have said HandBrake
But i see it doesnt say so in your screenshot and your file size is small, you didnt convert it properly
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If you converted from Handbrake then your SW Codec would have said HandBrake
But i see it doesnt say so in your screenshot and your file size is small, you didnt convert it properly
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actually the uploaded screenshot was original file shot,then i converted with your settings honestly it din't play and size was high 88mb file converted to 146mb i use handbrake for ripping dvd's it's good i know.... But the original 1080p files plays smoothly on CM doesn't play on stock i don't know why.....
Will there be a way to possibly modify this to enable in the future? Or 3rd party camera app? I think it's a nice looking video mode and not sure what's the big deal for leaving it out if they did.
SysAdmNj said:
Will there be a way to possibly modify this to enable in the future? Or 3rd party camera app? I think it's a nice looking video mode and not sure what's the big deal for leaving it out if they did.
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Use an app if it didn't. You can get much better control over pics and video.
Google camera is pretty basic really, not exactly something for enthusiasts.
Who said it doesn't? That would be really sad if it didn't
it has 720p 120fps and 240fps - but not 1080p60 - wow.
Once again, ****ting the bed on the camera app.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493305,00.asp
1080 60
iRub1Out said:
it has 720p 120fps and 240fps - but not 1080p60 - wow.
Once again, ****ting the bed on the camera app.
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That doesn't make sense. How can it shoot 4k at 30fps but can't go higher at 1080p?
airwa1kin7 said:
That doesn't make sense. How can it shoot 4k at 30fps but can't go higher at 1080p?
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Apparently the 6P is capable and has the programming to do so.
Good deal, Google FINALLY added this.
For example, the N6, the hardware is fully capable, but no 3rd party (or stock) allow it to work since the .so camera files don't have a profile for 1080p60 - so even IF a camera app had the ability, the hardware doesn't have to coding to use it.
The N6 is my case in point. It can and does shoot 2160p at 30fps but CAN NOT shoot 1080p at anything higher than 30fps. Stupid, yes, absolutely. The hardware is MORE than capable, but the coding isn't there to support it.
I saw it mentioned in a review, but I don't see a reason this should happen. I know this phone model vs the Mi 9 or the 9T Pro doesn't support 4K @60fps due to CPU capabilities, and for costs' sake the coupled image sensor is also a similar version which nominally identical to the Mi 9's sensor other than not supporting 4K @60fps (lower bandwidth on the image sensor's processor?). The 1080p resolution is also nominally a bit truncated due to this, with 240fps slow motion only being supported at 720fps (and 1080p going up to only 120fps), but I don't understand what's up with the pixelated quality?
With 1080p @30fps, there is no such pixelation, and zooming in even x5 keeps a pretty decent quality with no such rough pixelation. I'm not sure if the phone knows how to adjust the number of pixels used out of the entire sensor while digitally zooming instead of stretching the rendered image, but even if it's only digital crop-and-stretch, at 30fps it at the very least uses a decent filter that smoothes square pixelation.
I can see when using 60fps that the image view is slightly zoomed in, meaning it probably uses a bit less pixels out of the entire available sensor, but it's a very small difference which doesn't match the severity of the actual effect, and again — it doesn't even try to smooth the pixelation. At 120fps the pixelation is even worse.
I suppose having a higher possible bottleneck might secure more consistent performance at lower settings (so perhaps in some aspects you could expect a phone rated to capture at up to 1080p @240fps to perform better at 60fps than a phone only rated to capture at up to 1080fps @120fps), but what's going on in this case doesn't seem reasonable.
So what's your take on this? Should this issue be fixable through software update?
post a sample of video you are talking about please
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post a sample of video you are talking about please
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There's no need for a full video, even. Here are a few screenshots from recorded videos in different settings:
At 30fps, no zoom:
https://i.ibb.co/XjmqxHr/FHD30fps.png
At 30fps with X5 zoom:
https://i.ibb.co/yd6pMBs/FHD30fps-Zoom-X5.png
At 60fps, no zoom. Here you can already see some blocky pixelation along fine lines if you pay attention:
https://i.ibb.co/pL6PTkc/FHD60fps.png
At 60fps with X3 zoom. As you can see it doesn't even try to filter the upscaling, so you just end up with blocks of cubic pixels:
https://i.ibb.co/cLNcxzK/FHD60fps-Zoom-X3.png
I can definitely see the pixelation you are talking about, but is it in video itself or the pixelation is because of the video player you are using? Thats why I told you to post the original video.
Also what rom are you using?
same for my device,it has that pixelation on 1080p 60fps recording.
playing it on pc vlc or mpc-hc have it too.
was waiting for someone to create a thread about it. tnx
k20 10.3.8.0 in
Nexus5-32GB said:
I can definitely see the pixelation you are talking about, but is it in video itself or the pixelation is because of the video player you are using? Thats why I told you to post the original video.
Also what rom are you using?
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It is in the video itself. It shows in the camera's "viewfinder" while recording, and then the same way when playing the recorded file. As I said, 120fps is even worse, while it isn't saved at 120fps but at 30fps slow motion in case you thought it's the videoplayer mishandling 60fps playback.
I'm using the official MIUI it came with.
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same for my device,it has that pixelation on 1080p 60fps recording.
playing it on pc vlc or mpc-hc have it too.
was waiting for someone to create a thread about it. tnx
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As I mentioned, I already saw something said about this in a review, but I don't see a reason why it should perform this bad with anything above 1080p 30fps. Because the digital zoom on 30fps remains fairly detailed even at around X3, I wonder if the sensor knows how to limit the area of pixels from the sensor used before rendering the frame, thus creating a better digital zoom than just cropping and stretching up from the normal amount of pixels being used. The image is slightly zoomed already in 60fps, as I mentioned, but seeing how it just takes the already somewhat pixelated quality and stretches it up exactly as-is in 60fps, it definitely doesn't use any sensor area limitation trickery in that case.
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It is in the video itself. It shows in the camera's "viewfinder" while recording, and then the same way when playing the recorded file. As I said, 120fps is even worse, while it isn't saved at 120fps but at 30fps slow motion in case you thought it's the videoplayer mishandling 60fps playback.
I'm using the official MIUI it came with.
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I have tested my own Mi9T and can say the 60fps video suffer from pixelation for sure.
has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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This would be quite strange if it's hardware limited to this extent. Both the Snapdragon 730 and the IMX 582 are rated for 4K at 30fps, which in number of pixels per second is equal to 1080p at 120fps (which the phone also features as an option). But if this upper limit is so far from perfectly-handled that even at half the data (1080p at 60fps) it provides Crappy crappy results... Strange. Are there any other phones currently using this sensor, so we can check if there had been similar complaints?
found this it has imx 582 mi a3 with pixelation
watch?v=8YC_Zk1-cSg
Abyzt said:
found this it has imx 582 mi a3 with pixelation
watch?v=8YC_Zk1-cSg
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That's quite strange and annoying. The SD 730 is better than the SD 665, so if it happens on both we know it's more likely related to the image sensor itself. But it seems unlikely a sensor released with specifications allowing it to capture up to 120fps at 1080p would perform this badly at 60fps. It looks as if if just takes a 720p 60fps feed and upscales it (without any scaling filters) to 1080p. Maybe it's indeed an issue with how Xiaomi implemented this sensor in software? Both phones we have as examples are from the same manufacturer, so a third party phone could be a better indicator.
Abyzt said:
has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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Would you be so kind and tell me more in how you managed to make 1080p/60fps work on Gcam?
USing my Gcam port, the app instantly crashes when trying to use the 60fps mod....everything else works just fine.
USing Ornyx05 - 0709 port.
Pejpi said:
Would you be so kind and tell me more in how you managed to make 1080p/60fps work on Gcam?
USing my Gcam port, the app instantly crashes when trying to use the 60fps mod....everything else works just fine.
USing Ornyx05 - 0709 port.
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use the ports by xtrme
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use the ports by xtrme
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Thanks, that worked a treat
Found out which settings you most satisfied with ?
On mine is not pixelated..
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On mine is not pixelated..
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Could you shoot an example of 1080p at 60fps, perhaps use x2 zoom as it shows the issue much more clearly on my phone, and then upload the example? Or just a screenshot of a frame.
So, months have passed and I wonder....do we have a conclusion/reason why the 1080p 60fps videos are still pixelated/jagged when zooming in even a little bid?
For the love of me i cant find anything on that matter anywhere on the web.
Is there a workaround? is it just the camera sensor? software? something else?
Still alive?
It seems to be specific to IMX582 sensors.
My POCO X3 Pro has exact same problem.
I have created an HLSL shader program to mitigate this, and it works well on MPC-HC.
I hope someone would port it to Gcam to do it in real time.
For comparison, added the stock image and one halfed then doubled.
Just for information.
This pixelation occurs also on Huawei Mate 9.
So, my thought is that may be caused by skipped scan lines to achieve 60 fps and poor interpolation for malformed Bayer array (see the attachment picture).
Considering that, I updated my HLSL shader to re-decode the array.
It should not be a perfect solution because there is theoretical restriction by non-uniformity of its subpixels.
I still looking for some way to apply the shader directly to raw pixels before encoding to H.264/H.265 in camera apps.
Is there any possible way to record videos at 4K60 fps, although the video quality of Nothing Phone 1 is really good but it maxes out at 4K30.
At first, I thought after using some Gcam mods I can record 4K60 videos so I tried various Gcam mods with and without configs, Filmic pro, open camera and many other apps but none of them worked. QC 778G+ is fairly capable SoC and It should support 4K60. One weird thing I realised that Pixel 5 from 2020 had 765G which is far less powerful than 778G+ supported 4K60 fps video recording. Anyways, if you know how to enable that on Nothing Phone 1 then lemme know, I'll be thankful to you.
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It should support 4K60
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It doesn't.