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Critical battery temperature

Hey. Does someone you know, what is the highest (read: critical) battery and HW temperature in this phone? I am a little bit scared when I'm getting even 55*C on battery when I am using it as a navigation connected to charger in a car. I know it's too high because when it's heating over 49*C it stops charging. My question is how dangerous is such high temperature for HW and Battery? Is it normal behavior?

I never had such high temperatures, and I live on a hot country (Brazil). Try to check apps running in background, or, if you are using 3G and charger, it can get really hot. But I think it's normal, since my phone reaches 45ºC while charging, and I don't use 3G.

with 3g my phone gets crazy hot. i once left it on overnight (it didnt go to sleep) and when i woke up it felt dangerously hot, musta been 50deg or something
otherwise, with wifi it just gets warm... still worrying though, considering none of my other portable devices have ever gotten this hot before... just shows where all of the battery life goes to! :S
i dont think its the battery getting hot though, it must be the cell chip. my batt temps are usually pretty low, and the batt itself doesnt seem to get hot. its just the panel above the battery that warms up

My phone got so high temperature (55*C) when I was using navigation. Moreover it was pluged to the car charger (but wasn't charging because of high temperature) and mounted to the window in hot sunny day. And I'd like to know how dangerous is such high temp. for the device.

I wonder if we have dud phones? my battery life sucks ass... bare able on wifi, but **** with 3g

Agree with scott. With prolonged use my battery doesnt heat up, just the panel above the battery (where the camera is)
And my battery life sucks too. Gotta keep it charged in the car for even short (30 min) trips with navigation
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Try checking the manual (if there is) for operating temperatures etc.
I'm not exactly sure of how it'll affect the phone but it poses health problems due to higher radiations.
Try preventing this by ensuring all other (running) apps that you don't need are closed by using a task killer and all connectivity stuffs (eg. bluetooth, data sync) ESPECIALLY THE BACKGROUND DATA if you don't need it. Also, if possible try to refrain from covering the back panel (mainly the area near the camera) and allow ventilation to let it cool so it won't overheat.
What else I do is leaving the keyboard opened so there's even more surface area for it to cool.
The problem isn't just about damage, but that you don't want to be holding hot metal.
Yes it sucks but its a price to pay for such high specs packed in such a tiny casing.
My friend who owns Samsung Galaxy II has his phone heating up even more frequently and quickly, so we're not the only ones

Its annoying because we know its avoidable and shouldnt have been allowed in the final design by motorola

I've never seen such high temperatures with my M 2.
Highest was 47ºC while charging and playing a game. It usually sits around 35-36ºC idle, and 40-42º during games.

scottyn said:
I wonder if we have dud phones? my battery life sucks ass... bare able on wifi, but **** with 3g
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newbietown said:
And my battery life sucks too. Gotta keep it charged in the car for even short (30 min) trips with navigation
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That's normal guys... Every device dying in a "few minutes" with 3G. And U know what? From my last 3 devices which I have been using to surf in the Internet with 3G (Moto RIZR Z8, Nokia N86, Moto Milestone 2), MM2 lasts the longest.
newbietown said:
Agree with scott. With prolonged use my battery doesnt heat up, just the panel above the battery (where the camera is)
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That's right, but every app just showing the battery temperature

Damn..
Yesterday my milestone 2 became hotter as ever, just above the battery (where the camera is, like newbietown). First I turned it off, but it stayed hot even then. After I removed the battery it became cool again.
But! Now my MS2 is completely dead...
It's really not turning on again, and charging is really weird (irregular flashin led). And my warranty is void because of me installing argen2stone I guess ..

Well, just flash a stock rom and they'll never know...

My phone is not recognized on my computer using USB . Can I still use rsd lite?

First get to bootloader mode: Power + Volume Up (or down) + Camera
If battery is too low you'll need to buy a relacement or a external charger.
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Try taking it to warranty. Argen2Stone is so lightly modded, maybe they won't mind it. Anyway, you have nothing to lose now. And this really looks like a HW problem, not SW
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Beginning of next week I will hand it in for warranty. I think it has something to do with the power circuit in the phone. Sometime i've used HTC chargers (1A) instead of the motorola charger (0,85A).. That could be the cause Hopefully they cannot see that.

I don't think that's a problem. I always use a Nokia charger, I find the original charger too short, the Nokia has a good lenght. And I never had problems with overheating. Also, 1A is the maximum current that the charger can provide, not the nominal [email protected] anytime
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Tablet charging and running hot

I started having this weird problem the past few days. My tablet seems to become very hot while charging. It also runs quite hot when on wifi. As a result the battery performance seems to be degrading. Any light on this...our has anyone faced similar problem. A possible solution to this would be highly appreciated.
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if you read the user manual which comes with the tablet ( pdf is also available on official website) they have mentioned it in manual that tablet can get hot while charging and using processor intensive tasks like wifi and games. They have also said that it will not affect the longevity of tablet or battery in any way . My tablet does get a little warm while charging and after heavy usage. i guess its universal

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if you read the user manual which comes with the tablet ( pdf is also available on official website) they have mentioned it in manual that tablet can get hot while charging and using processor intensive tasks like wifi and games. They have also said that it will not affect the longevity of tablet or battery in any way . My tablet does get a little warm while charging and after heavy usage. i guess its universal
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I wouldn't worry if the tablet was getting a little warm. But the moment i turn on the screen, the left side of the tablet. both back and front become exceedingly warm even without running any intensive programs. The issue started about 2-3 days back only. i never had this problem before.
While charging the tablet is literally quite hot, and like I said more on the left side.
I think I need to go to a service center to get it checked.

Manipur said:
I wouldn't worry if the tablet was getting a little warm. But the moment i turn on the screen, the left side of the tablet. both back and front become exceedingly warm even without running any intensive programs. The issue started about 2-3 days back only. i never had this problem before.
While charging the tablet is literally quite hot, and like I said more on the left side.
I think I need to go to a service center to get it checked.
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If the battery gets hot, the effects are similar to those of overcharging. You know how bad overcharging would be. So I recommend you to take a deeper look into the issue.
Taking it to service center is a good idea; but since the service center would wipe your tablet clean anyway, so why don't you check if there are any background processes that have been causing this acting up lately? Messengers like whatsapp/line, screen lock apps, weather and news widgets, adware/free games with ad are examples of the apps that would be taking background resources, you would like to check whether you have installed new apps like that.
Most background processes usually won't cause your battery to act up, except when they got stuck on something. You probably couldn't fix it by yourself so you would better track them down and remove them.
TasKiller is one of the app that could show you background processes. There are countless others good app for the same purpose.

My tablet has been on charge (while off) for almost 24hrs and still hasn't fully charged yet.
What gives?

uncle_buckman said:
My tablet has been on charge (while off) for almost 24hrs and still hasn't fully charged yet.
What gives?
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Do you use the stock wall charger to charge it?

Weird Issue!

My tab was sitting on my desk in sleep mode. I picked it up and tried to unlock it and it seemed frozen for a moment, then let me swipe. It seemed fine after that. A few hours later I picked it up again and it was very sluggish and the back was warm and my battery at 15%. (it was at about 50% a few hours earlier) I rebooted it and it's fine, but I am wondering what caused it to get so warm. I know that happens when it's being used a lot but it was just sitting on my desk. There were no apps running in the background. Any ideas what could have happened? I haven't installed anything new in the last few days.

Are you running stock?

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Are you running stock?
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And we assume ICS (apart from stock)? But there are quite a few threads on the increased power-consumption on ICS (Stock and other). So might be some run-away process or service. What is the highest battery-user according to the device info? And how much? Has ICS gotten rid of the dialer goof-up for non-3G tablets?
P.S. Like the off limits (slap on the wrist) of the better half's tablet, same here :laugh:

Yes assuming ICS...my bad lol. It was more of a "tell me everything you've done lately" type of question. I have noticed increased battery consumption myself but that's why I switched ROMs today. If I lose a couple extra ticks on the battery in exchange for the performance I've gotten I can live with that
And yes I will lose whatever part of my body touches the wife's tablet. She's heard enough profanity in the last month as I got my feet wet hahaha!

Yes, stock ICS. Sorry for omitting that!
The highest battery user is the screen. I'm thinking maybe the tablet froze and I didn't notice it. Having the screen on constantly for several hours is probably not battery friendly. I'm concerned because it's still warm between the Samsung logo and the camera on the back. It's not hot or anything, just noticeably warm, and it's just sitting there charging. I'm not using it.

I have (or you can do it yourself) to delve in other threads, where they dismantle the tablet. Is it a P7500, or just a plain P7510? I thought that the 3G radio-part was about there where it still is hot (residual heat probably by now), but I can be mistaken. If this is a P7510, then I do not know what would be there at that location. It certainly is not the battery, that is much lower...
I will try and find what is about there, but other solder-happy soldiers must be able to tell you exactly what is located there.
Anybody?

BretonGirl said:
Yes, stock ICS. Sorry for omitting that!
The highest battery user is the screen. I'm thinking maybe the tablet froze and I didn't notice it. Having the screen on constantly for several hours is probably not battery friendly. I'm concerned because it's still warm between the Samsung logo and the camera on the back. It's not hot or anything, just noticeably warm, and it's just sitting there charging. I'm not using it.
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A friend of mine had a similar problem with his galaxy s2 locking up and needing a long-press power reboot to get it working again on stock ICS 4.0.3. The culprit ended up being android os in battery stats, but the problem has not happened again yet. As for the warmth on the back of your tab, this is caused by the processor running at full speed for extended periods of time. If your screen is on, and you are interacting with it a lot, then you should expect the upper left back side of the tab to heat up and not cool down until you stop using it. This is normal... if it continues to stay hot for long periods of time after the screen is off, then you are probably not going into deep sleep mode because of a rogue app. If you are rooted, install better battery stats and CPU spy to do a little more digging. Good luck, I hope you figure it out and get your tab running the way you would like it to.

I figured out what it was. I'd seen the Ebook icon in my app tray and tapped it. It took me to the Samsung App store. I left immediately but that visit apparently installed "Samsung Push Service" which was taking 62% of my battery and causing 100% wake lock. What a POS! I uninstalled it and everything is normal again. Won't ever visit the Samsung App store again.

I froze that app. Ugly. Glad you worked it out!

What i have noticed so far with the G4

I`ve had the phone for 3 days now and before upgradin from the Iphone 6 ( my first and last iphone) i was really anxious about the many issues listed in the forums especially the touchscreen problem. When i initially got it i started testing everything and I`m glad to say that everything worked fine (sooo relieved) but when i charged it for the first time it charged very slowly, about 3 hours for a full charge, and it got really hot when using lightly the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot. From all this i belive that LG did e very good job hardware wise but i think like many other conapnies fell a little short on the software department and hopefully it will be fixed in the updates to come.

samkle said:
the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot.
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned

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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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It seems to fix some issues for alot of user so i think its worth a try for anyone whos experiencing any ☺

Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.

juliend said:
Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.

I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.

player911 said:
I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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Glad to hear that ☺. I actually purchased the wall charger but i guess the performance will be similiar. The one thing i noticed today was the battery life, it seems it is not that great during very light usage but that may be due to the fact that these couple of days the reception has been awful because the carrier im using (Vodafone) is switching to 4G for the first time in my country and ,a little out of topic i know, the download speeds have shocked me, my home connection max download speed is about 400-500kbps and today i witnessed 15-20mbps.

Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.

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Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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How much of a charge do you actually gain in the car with the fast charger while using nav and music with screen on?

Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.

I'm using SanDisk class 10 and there's no noticeable difference in my end

samkle said:
Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.

Bigmille said:
It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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The funny thing is that the the two buying factors for me were the removable back and the micro SD slot, and the only issue I have may or may not be with the micro SD and a slightly loose hinge on the left side of the battery cover but I have experienced that with every phone I had including the g2 and the iPhone 6 without a removable back that had this issue.

Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Even my 1+1 is way snappier with blisspop installed. Snappier than s6, snappier than g4.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Thankfully I didn't have any hardware issues, I have the Hong Kong version because there's where most of retailers get the phones in my country, I think there's a lot room for improvement software wise and I'm hoping coming updates especially android M, will refine this device even more. I really hoped my I would get the plastic back cover in the box and I'm really jealous of those who did ??

Im starting to notice two more things with the G4, the battery cover (leather) is making a creacking noise when i press it on some areas, and the other one is the with the vibration motor that makes a little bit of noise compared to other phones ive had, has any of you guys experienced this?

samkle said:
Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
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I have charged it using my wifes samsung QC. Don't notice much difference over the stock LG charger.

I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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josephcory said:
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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It's up to you, but as you have seen its much recommended if you have any issues.

Worst Device Ive Ever Owned (Returned)

This is my opinion. I'm a long time Android user.
I purchased this device with the excitement of it being a mixture of my 2 favorite interfaces.
The phone itself is nice looking. The screen is curved leaving it difficult to install a screen protector.
The back is extremely 'grippy' but feels loose towards the middle.
The software is buggy and i think they should have definately spent more time with it. Had a couple of random reboots and freezes within the 1st day.
The phone was randomly getting hot to touch, even after i stopped running background app's, and when it was doing this the battery life would drop quick, very quick.....
The phone does get warm fast, no matter what other people tell you. Simply browsing chrome or facebook i could feel the heat within 3-4 minutes.
The battery life i experienced was abysmal! After 5 charging cycles it didnt get any better, i averaged just on 3.5 hrs screen on time, for a 3400mah battery thats pretty bad. Especially for a so called business device thats even worse.
The sound through the bottom speaker grill was average.
The only thing i thought was realy good was the actual phone calls, sound was loud and clear.
The price of this phone is absolutely ridiculous!!! Its not worth what there asking.
The phone is a big let down for me. I was shocked.
If you want true blackberry, save your money and get a Passport.
My opinions.

I am planning to get the silver passport...
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Just about everyone reported good battery life with this thing. Ya sure you weren't running a lot of junk apps in the background?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not buying it. The keyboard is trash. But still.

Did you update anything? For some reason the Blackberry apps don't say they need updates, you have to visit their store page and update there. Also, unlinking and relinking your email account in the hub may help with your heat issues. There's also the chance you just got a lemon.

I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.

You can try out these steps to make sure you have the latest Blackberry apps on your Priv: http://crackberry.com/get-latest-app-updates-your-blackberry-priv-automatically

I have 0 battery issues. yes it gets warm, but that's probably as much as my oneplus 2. I'm easily getting 5 - 6hrs SOT over 18 hrs.

So far i am liking this device. I have an s6 edge, passport original (sold now), passport silver, which is the only device i have ever went back to after getting rid of. Now a Priv. So after getting it all set up with gmail, hub, twitter, facebook, corporate email, and some other random apps and charged up to 100% i went to bed with it unplugged. Woke up 7 hours later battery was at 96. Not bad for overnight. The productivity edge compared to the people edge on the s6 is a grand slam, its almost like having google now launcher after all primed up. Double tap to wake is flawless so far. I must say i am impressed. being able to hotkey all the keyboard keys just like my passport is great. I have not seen a single glitch yet. This device, for launchday software on a new platform for Blackberry is quite polished. I am not a blackberry loyalist by any means, but the subtle customizations and natively being able to set the flashing LED colour to different alerts is all baked in. I think im going to sell my Edge.

markdexter said:
I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.
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The G4 is a great phone. I want to try the Priv but can't justify dropping my G4 for it!

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to remove battery percentage from status bar??? Please.....
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Battery is awesome!! No complains!

Totally disagree with OP. My experience is very different. Great business device with good replication of the best of BB10.

Aside from the heating thing, everything else seems to be your device only. You might have gotten a faulty device.
I've been using the Priv for a week now, neither a single random reboot nor a freeze happened. The phone is fluid, and no lags. It does get warm quite quickly, but not to the extent you're describing here ("hot to touch"). It gets as warm as other devices, but quicker.
I wouldn't go as far as returning the device only for these issues, I'd get it replaced instead. But then again, that's just me, and I have been excited about it since its rumours and renders. If you weren't excited about it, or just looking for a "new device" to test, I'd understand why you were eager to return it.

I also wasn't pleased with the battery life. I own a moto x play, has a 3,600 mah battery, I average 6.5- 7 hrs screen on time, the priv have me about 3hrs with a similar size battery??!!

Mine is back in the box ready to be returned also same issue. So hot almost too hot to touch. Constant fc on chrome and hanging battery life absolute ****e and worst of all how the sharp corner sticks into your hand on obe handed use. ..so disappointed as I was waiting since release day..total pants if you ask me

Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.

Yeah mine was on voda

I'm actually pretty happy with the priv - mine only gets slightly warm under load, doesn't randomly reboot or crash, the screen doesn't click, the front and rear cameras both work flawlessly...
however, I'm on the verge of returning it due to the physical keyboard. People complain that it's cramped and small, but I have no issue with that either. My main issue is that it drops keys randomly and can't keep up with the typing - it happens most frequently when typing double letters ("google" -> "gogle", or "good"->"god"), but it also randomly drops keys elsewhere too. I'm pretty sure it's not me as I intentionally type very deliberately to see, and I hear/feel the key click down - but nothing registers on the screen.
For a company that built its reputation on having the best in class keyboard... this is pretty disappointing.

jah said:
Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.
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If this is the case what a major flaw, if your on a certain network you could potentially Cook an egg on the back of your priv with the heat!!

Give it a couple of full drain/charge cycles and you'll be fine. Software is a bit buggy yes. But since this such an important phone for BB, you can be assured constant software updates will make this into a monster.
Give it a real chance before you dismiss it.
Here's my SOT after 1 week of use. Here with 34% left. This will get you up to 6 hours SOT.
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