Hi all,
After a long research and playing with different options, I finally found a way to make Foxfi work again on my Verizon Unlimitted data, none rooted, OG5 with latest update. I'm not gurantte that it will work for everyone because I only tested on my phone. So feel free to try out my method and if you blow up your device, it's your fault and your responsiblity. Once you able to bypass VZ lock down, you should able to connect normally WITHOUT have to go through all the steps. Enough said let try it out
1) Turn off your 4G, turn on your wifi.
2) Open foxfi and follow through until it failed by VZ message.."please call bahbahbah", hit cancel when you see the message
3)Switch to wifi and disconnect it from connecting to your router (open the connection then hit forget). Now your wifi is on but you shouldn't have internet
4)Close your Foxfi then reopen, then go through the process again, but at the end you will received a message that it unable to connect, hit cancel.
5) Now turn off your wifi and turn on your 4G, try to connect with foxfi and it should prompt you to enable hot spot in settings, launch settings and turn on hotspot. Bang, you should be sucess!!!
Once this is done, next time you just launch your foxfi the normal way, no need to go through these steps again.
Please provide feed back and good luck.
Well I heard that Foxfi is working again, don't know how/why?? but it's working, so no need to try anything. Thread closed.
How reliable is the paid version of FoxFi? I used it in the past on my S4 before I rooted it and it worked fine, but it was only the free version. Aside from the 500 meg-per-use limit, I had no problem. I tried it briefly a little earlier and it didn't work, but I might have missed a step. Almost forgot to mention, but after installing and running the app for the first time, a message appeared saying 'Network may be monitored'. Should I be worried about this? Thanks.
will4958 said:
How reliable is the paid version of FoxFi? I used it in the past on my S4 before I rooted it and it worked fine, but it was only the free version. Aside from the 500 meg-per-use limit, I had no problem. I tried it briefly a little earlier and it didn't work, but I might have missed a step. Almost forgot to mention, but after installing and running the app for the first time, a message appeared saying 'Network may be monitored'. Should I be worried about this? Thanks.
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it is very reliable unless Verizon decided to screw us up. That message is normal you can safely ignore it.
buhohitr said:
it is very reliable unless Verizon decided to screw us up. That message is normal you can safely ignore it.
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Thanks. One other question, is there a way to FoxFi without having to be stuck with the system lock screen? I like to use Zui as my lock screen, and having to use the system one I have to sign into my phone twice. Is there a setting in Security I can disable or something?
Download this app, run it and it should remove foxfi lock screen. http://pdanet.co/help/RemoveLock.apk
After that you can set your own lock screen
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Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
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Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
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If you try to use the built-in mobile hotspot, it'll respond by telling you to either call Verizon or visit their site to enable that feature. With FoxFi, it allows you to use the mobile hotspot without having to pay extra for the convenience of it. You open the app, start it, then tap the button that redirects you to the mobile hotspot feature built into the phone. Basically, the app bypasses the need to enable the hotspot through your carrier. The full version is only $7.95 and you have about seven days, I think, to try it out. I'd recommend installing the 'Remove Lock' app mentioned in this thread should you choose to try FoxFi, since the app requires you to set either a password or pin lock due to it creating a VPN when first used. I've been using it for a while and it works as well as any rooted Android phone with the hotspot feature enabled. Hope this helps.
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Alright...dumb question...why would I use Fox-Fi as opposed to using the built in hot-spot feature? thanks in advance.
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Simple answer, the build in hot-spot you have to pay for Verizon data service plan. With Foxfi you pay 7$ one time fee and use it forever...
will4958 said:
If you try to use the built-in mobile hotspot, it'll respond by telling you to either call Verizon or visit their site to enable that feature. With FoxFi, it allows you to use the mobile hotspot without having to pay extra for the convenience of it. You open the app, start it, then tap the button that redirects you to the mobile hotspot feature built into the phone. Basically, the app bypasses the need to enable the hotspot through your carrier. The full version is only $7.95 and you have about seven days, I think, to try it out. I'd recommend installing the 'Remove Lock' app mentioned in this thread should you choose to try FoxFi, since the app requires you to set either a password or pin lock due to it creating a VPN when first used. I've been using it for a while and it works as well as any rooted Android phone with the hotspot feature enabled. Hope this helps.
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Simple answer, the build in hot-spot you have to pay for Verizon data service plan. With Foxfi you pay 7$ one time fee and use it forever...
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Both replies are very helpful, thanks. I was a bit confused because I have never been charged for using my built in hot spot. With that said, I have not used it for extended periods of time, streaming, etc...
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Both replies are very helpful, thanks. I was a bit confused because I have never been charged for using my built in hot spot. With that said, I have not used it for extended periods of time, streaming, etc...
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So when you activate your hotspot, did you have to register with Verizon?
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So when you activate your hotspot, did you have to register with Verizon?
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No, not at all. Nothing on my bill indicate useage...
Per VZW...
Here's the breakdown:
If you have a new Verizon "Share Everything" plan, you can use your phone's built-in mobile hotspot feature or a third-party tethering app free of charge? but you're limited to the data in your Share Everything data pool. Overage rates for shared data plans are $15 per gigabyte.
If you have an old usage-based data plan, you can now use a third-party tethering app free of charge. You can also use your phone's mobile hotspot feature for an additional $20 per month (per device), which also gets you an additional 2GB of data.
If you have an old unlimited plan, you are technically required to pay $20 per month for tethering? whether you're using a third-party app or your phone's mobile hotspot feature. However, Verizon has no way of knowing if you're using a third-party app to tether.
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No, not at all. Nothing on my bill indicate useage...
Per VZW...
Here's the breakdown:
If you have a new Verizon "Share Everything" plan, you can use your phone's built-in mobile hotspot feature or a third-party tethering app free of charge? but you're limited to the data in your Share Everything data pool. Overage rates for shared data plans are $15 per gigabyte.
If you have an old usage-based data plan, you can now use a third-party tethering app free of charge. You can also use your phone's mobile hotspot feature for an additional $20 per month (per device), which also gets you an additional 2GB of data.
If you have an old unlimited plan, you are technically required to pay $20 per month for tethering? whether you're using a third-party app or your phone's mobile hotspot feature. However, Verizon has no way of knowing if you're using a third-party app to tether.
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Thank you for this! It's nice and clear about Verizon policy with data Tethering. :good:
Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
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Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
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Yes it is working great!
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hsomnus said:
Is it still working? I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 but I need tether.
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For the most part, it works without issues.
What I have discovered. Devices cant talk across it (as far as I can tell), and sometime it bugs out (every once in awhile). Overall works great.
The annoying part is damn icons in the top of your phone you cant get rid of. 2 for foxfi, 1 for hotspot.
OTA update from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1
DikStarrbuck said:
For the most part, it works without issues.
What I have discovered. Devices cant talk across it (as far as I can tell), and sometime it bugs out (every once in awhile). Overall works great.
The annoying part is damn icons in the top of your phone you cant get rid of. 2 for foxfi, 1 for hotspot.
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So Verizon is pushing the OTA update from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 on my Note 4, does anyone know if this will break Fox-Fi/PDAnet?
I have no problem with foxfi... after the update....
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I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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using wireless tether right now... no problems...
maybe they'll end up sending me a text.
I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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A-SPLODE!! Lmfao just made my day!
But yeah... if this is true then all I can do is throw the f-bomb around because I rely heavily on tethering and no way in hell am I going to pay for a service I've been using for free...
No problems with Wireless Tether on my G1...and I tether a ton. I was up to 7gb last month :/
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I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840423
Not just you.
That would suck. Would this apply to USB tethering as well, or just WiFi?
PDANet IS usb tethering.
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oh... and someone at the Vibrant forums is having the same issue... which is why I'm here.
:X
I am tethering from my G2 (USB tether) to post this message. It works fine, though TMO might be rolling this block out.
Edit: I am posting this via Wifi tether, so that seems to be working for me currently.
I just checked PDANet and WiFi hotspot and they both worked, so I guess they're "rolling" this out.
Makes me wonder...some of us never got the OTA rollout. I wonder if perhaps I'll never get this rollout either.
I think they can affect PDANet and Easytether since they are market apps. Wireless Tether for Android and Wired Tether for Android aren't market apps so im pretty sure those are beyond T-Mobile's grip.
Might have something to do with the G2 not being rooted and trying to tether. I think after its rooted it should work without a problem. At least thats what a tmo rep told me.
When I read all this on the xda app, i went ahead and hooked up to wifi tether. thats how i'm writing this msg. I am rooted and do have the largest plan tmo offers which includes the unlimited data. idk. we shall see. oh yea, no tmo msg as of yet.
I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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There are various techniques they could use to do this; if we know exactly what they're doing, we can probably bypass it.
Probably one of the simplest techniques would be user agent sniffing; if they see desktop user agents from the same device, they'd know something funky was going on.
I'd be interested to know whether the OP can work around this situation by changing his user agent string on his desktop browser. I'd also be interested to know whether the phone browser continues to work properly even after he's been caught, and if so, whether changing the user agent string on the phone causes it to report the block message as well.
Another test for whether they're sniffing user agents is to try to make an ssl connection instead of http from the desktop browser. Assuming that the phone browser still works, SSL on the desktop browser should also still work, if all they're doing is user agent sniffing.
In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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That's actually good, then. If they're using such a naive detection method, it's sure to result in a ton of false positives from people legitimately using a lot of data with their phones, and consumer complaints should result in them disabling it before too long.
If this works like any of T-Mobile's other services then they prorate the add-ons so you can add it when you need it, then cancel it when you don't and you would only pay a fraction of that $15. I do this with the hotspot feature all the time - enable it for a trip when I'll spend a lot of time in a hotel (or airports, etc.) where they offer wireless and then cancel it at the end of the trip and I pay less than a single day of wifi at a major hotel.
(disclosure - I snatched this post off the T-mobile.com forum but I was going to say the same thing!)
I need to confirm this "add it when you need it". Not good for everybody but for those of us that need tethering a few times a month it's not so bad, 50 cents for one day. Tried via the chat on T-Mobile.com to confirm this but they are useless!
When I first applied the OTA and started playing with the built in tethering, I noticed some log entries from DataConnectionTracker whenever I turned tethering on or off. When I enabled temp root with Visionary and tried using the stand alone Wireless and Wired tether for root apps, these entries did not appear.
I haven't had time to play with it much, but it might be useful to run logcat with a filter for only DataConnectionTracker activity while trying a variety of tethering techniques under root and non-root circumstances.
Of course the experience reported by the HD2 user does not line up with this theory, but there may be multiple things going on. If T-Mo really is blocking based on data volume, it will completely blow up on them as people start intentionally doing data intensive things without tethering.
I sure as hell hope they don't do this to the grandfathered plans... cause if they do, I'm gonna go on a *****-storm.
Edit: I'm tethering on the WiFi hotspot app and I didn't get any notice. Everything is as it has been since I've had this app. If not, I have Wireless Tether for Root Users. I refuse to pay $15 extra bucks a month when I paid for an unlimited plan a couple of years back.
I've never owned a Nexus device before. On my current T-Mo GSII I just use the built-in T-Mobile tethering app. What's my best option for the N4? The 'Wifi Tether' app?
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I've never owned a Nexus device before. On my current T-Mo GSII I just use the built-in T-Mobile tethering app. What's my best option for the N4? The 'Wifi Tether' app?
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All Nexus 4s will have tethering built in, its in the settings.
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I've never owned a Nexus device before. On my current T-Mo GSII I just use the built-in T-Mobile tethering app. What's my best option for the N4? The 'Wifi Tether' app?
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Its built into Stock Android anyway. You will have no problems!
So no root required to enjoy the built-in tethering?
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So no root required to enjoy the built-in tethering?
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Nope!
Just enable it in settings and you are good to go!
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Nope!
Just enable it in settings and you are good to go!
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And if I use it T-Mobile may or may not harass me about it?
It will be the same as if you tethered on your GS2
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And if I use it T-Mobile may or may not harass me about it?
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That depends on T-Mobile, if they actively monitor and block tethering then they might harass you. If tethering is included in your plan then it should just be exactly the same as when you used the T-Mobile tethering app.
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That depends on T-Mobile, if they actively monitor and block tethering then they might harass you. If tethering is included in your plan then it should just be exactly the same as when you used the T-Mobile tethering app.
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I tether a little bit when I am on the road (don't wanna pay $10 just to use the airport wifi for an hour). they have never harassed me. If you plan to use it as your primary Internet source at home though....
T-mobile does actively monitor tethering, but rarely they can actually catch you. I noticed if I tether to my iPod touch or iPad, then I can use it no problem, but if it is a PC, then it is a hit or miss - depending on the type of request you do, they'll shut you out within 5-10 minutes, sometimes not at all. All you do it turn of tethering and turn it back on!
It's reported that T-Mobile sniffs User Agent strings and if it detects a laptop/desktop browser (Internet Explorer or Chrome, but apparently not Firefox), it redirects you to their web page asking you to sign up for tethering. Other network use (email, SSH, etc.) is apparently unhindered.
Well I am in the UK, so I don't know if T-Mobile UK monitors it in the same way?
On most of the T-Mobile UK tariffs tethering is included anyway (I think).
Unless you are on a Sim-Only plan like mine, but I have tethered my Nexus 7 many times and have had no problems / charges.
They won't catch you if all you do is tether to another mobile device (tablet or phone). A PC is a different story, as they usually result in a massive spike in your data usage.
t mobile does monitor for tethering...what i do is use the change user extension in chrome and change it to a android nexus 7....before i would get t mobile shutting me down and i would have to reconnect...after, i havent had any issues (this is PC tethering fyi)
yup. tmobile does active sniffing.
i got flagged and the upsell pages got worse and worse! lol
i need to use explorer for my business so i was getting the upsell messages all the time.
I hope WiFi tether for root works.
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yup. tmobile does active sniffing.
i got flagged and the upsell pages got worse and worse! lol
i need to use explorer for my business so i was getting the upsell messages all the time.
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i too once had to use IE for work..now i can use Chrome
since you use IE for work, i am assuming they are on IE 8, not 9; if you are on IE 8 and have admin privileges, you can change the user agent for IE also http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/18450/change-the-user-agent-string-in-internet-explorer-8/
try using the iphone user agent or something that isnt PC based...hopefully it will work!
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And if I use it T-Mobile may or may not harass me about it?
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I currently tether using a rooted Samsung Vibrant on T-Mobile, so that I can get internet when I otherwise can't like on road trips, etc. I just wouldn't abuse it and go overboard. They have never reprimanded me as my usual data usage is pretty low. Be reasonable and don't use it as your primary internet source like downloading giant files.
Check your APN settings and use this thread as a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963380
Don't use a PC to access you phone internet.
And don't download big file. I use my tf700 and WiFi tethering from my phone on mobile network. Never have a problem, my friend work on mobile, he say as long as you are not using a PC and download big file, its fine to use tethering without being charged. Internet browsing is ok. That's I like mobile, I am using their 30 5GB prepaid plan, much better than att **** 15bucks 250MB plan. And ATT will come up any mean to charge you more.
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fire3element said:
I searched around before deciding to make a new thread. Did not see anything specific to what I had a question about, unless it is buried deep in another thread.
Is there a suggested de-bloat list for the Verizon Note 3 running on the OB6 Lollipop firmware? For NON-ROOTED phones.
What I have turned off so far has not caused any issues seen yet.
I would like to make sure that the packages that track data usage are turned off, as well as any apps that report back to Verizon.
Would greatly appreciate if someone could post even a partial list to get this started.
I would also like to add that I am using the free version of FoxFi and tether is working!
You install FoxFi, then when you try to check the start tether box for the first time, it will make you setup a lock screen pin/pattern. After that it will install a certificate.
Once you have that done, when you try to enable tether again, it pops up a message that will take you to the Default built in tether. Once you click to enable that, tether starts working.
Here is something odd I noticed.
You can go back into the FoxFi app once you are tethered and working, then turn off tether WITHIN the FoxFi app. The default hotspot app remains enabled and continues to work.
Anyone else notice this? Also wondering if the FoxFi data limit is still imposed after you turn the tether off in its app.
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Unless you are on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, Verizon's Hotspot should already be usable even without WiFi. Last I saw...all Verizon tiered data plans included hotspot.
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On the grandfathered unlimited data plan Verizon.
There have been several articles saying that Foxfi would not work on 7.0+ without root. I'm hoping (praying!) that there is a fix. 2 Phones arriving tomorrow, but without tethering they will have to get returned.
Can you not just use Android's built in hotspot? Or do they strip it out?
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Can you not just use Android's built in hotspot? Or do they strip it out?
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Verizon charges extra to use a hotspot on the grandfathered unlimited data plan. Verizon simply sucks.
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Verizon charges extra to use a hotspot on the grandfathered unlimited data plan. Verizon simply sucks.
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Gotta love....I'd so be with AT&T if they actually had service in my office......
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Gotta love....I'd so be with AT&T if they actually had service in my office......
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There's no charge to use a hotspot on T-Mobile. I'm on the 6 GB plan with rollover, which as a heavy wifi user I have every month.
They will throttle you if you try to use your hotspot for big downloads.
using pdanet with foxfi, no issues.
LG V20 on T Mobile
Are you able to use the hot spot function?
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Are you able to use the hot spot function?
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For me the answer is sadly -No. Foxfi installed fine and does work in Bluetooth mode (Edit: USB mode working too). When I activate hotspot, it installs a certificate, attempts to turn the Hotspot on, then goes into a loop of certificate install, attempt to turn on, repeat. VZW UDP
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Are you able to use the hot spot function?
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Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
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Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
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I was concerned about the Verizon model because doesn't TMobile native hotspot works regardless i.e. it's included in your plan were on Verizon it's not.
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Again using T Mobile, with PDANET with Foxfi paid version. I can use the hotspot as well as the USB fuctions without issue. Stock right out the box.
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Thanks for the info. Since OP question was for phones on Verizon UDP, I wanted to make sure he got an answer that applied to him/her. Hopefully they find a way around this for those of us on Verizon, but that probably will have to wait for root.
I saw a workaround people got working on the Pixel. Would anyone with a Verizon V20 be willing to test this?
Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal.
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I saw a workaround people got working on the Pixel. Would anyone with a Verizon V20 be willing to test this?
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Sure, where did you see the info? Edit, nevermind, found the Network Signal Refresh workaround thread- Give me a few minutes.
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Sure, where did you see the info?
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It was in the quote on my post. I had a feeling I didn't make that obvious enough so apologies. Its this: "Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal."
Pixel owners have reported option 1 working for them. Hopefully it can work here too.
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It was in the quote on my post. I had a feeling I didn't make that obvious enough so apologies. Its this: "Would anyone like to try bypassing the verizon tether subscription check by option 1: installing network signal refresher, refresh signal and immediately turning on hotspot while refreshing. or option 2: turn on airplane mode then off and hit hotspot icon before it recaptures the signal."
Pixel owners have reported option 1 working for them. Hopefully it can work here too.
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No luck so far. I've tried it both ways at least a dozen times each- trying to change up my timing and hoping I'd get lucky. If I could get this to work, I would be SO happy.
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On the grandfathered unlimited data plan Verizon.
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I don't know about Verizon but usb tether mode works great on tmobile version, i read those articles about it not working on nougat too, glad they were wrong.
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I don't know about Verizon but usb tether mode works great on tmobile version, i read those articles about it not working on nougat too, glad they were wrong.
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Do i need special app to get usb tethering? Im on tmobile
I emailed foxfi and asked if they were working on compatability with the v20. They replied that foxfi software will not work with this phone. Did not indicate that it would work in the future. Not good.
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From what I have seen fox fi only works on Samsung phones now. When I had my Verizon unlimited data plan. After an update I want to say about a year ago no Verizon phone that wasnt Samsung didn't work. My Samsung phones I had up to the point they took away my unlimited data fox fi worked flawlessly. So doubt the v20 would work.
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I've been a grandfathered in unlimited data user of VZ for about 7 years.
I've used rooted phones for quite some time to unlock the tethering ability of my smartphones on VZ's network.
I'm curious how this feature actually functions. VZ's new "Unlimited" plans reduce tethering speeds from 4G to 3G after 10gbs are used.
Without spelling it out, my main question is whether or not using a rooted phones' tethering provision feature will simulate normal cell usage.
In other words, does Big Red see both tethering through the phone's native wifi-tethering app (with the provision enabled) the same as normal cell usage or does can their system determine the difference.
Thanks,
Anybody have any insights?
I am also curious about his! I am on the grandfathered unlimited plan also, but would change over to the new plan if I could get more than 10 gig on my hotspot. I live in a rural area and most of my internet use at home is on my hotspot.
I currently use Foxfi on my S7 and it works fine. I had it rooted with native hotspot, it worked OK but the phone performance sucks.
I also hear that Foxfi will not work with Nougat either so there are two reasons I need to bypass this 10g hotspot conundrum.
Somebody ???
I feel like I should have put this thread in a more general location, Moderators - can you help me?
It's not really tied to the S7 - it's a more general rooted question.
Thanks,
Anybody?
I would like to know as well
I'm also waiting for a rooted version of nougat with tethering unlocked...
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echo "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" >> /system/build.prop
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bart77 said:
I am also curious about his! I am on the grandfathered unlimited plan also, but would change over to the new plan if I could get more than 10 gig on my hotspot. I live in a rural area and most of my internet use at home is on my hotspot.
I currently use Foxfi on my S7 and it works fine. I had it rooted with native hotspot, it worked OK but the phone performance sucks.
I also hear that Foxfi will not work with Nougat either so there are two reasons I need to bypass this 10g hotspot conundrum.
Somebody ???
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This wont let you have more than 10gb, this is a limit on the server side, nothing you do will change that.
I'm on the grandfathered UDP and don't have hotspot activated on my account. With that I was using hotspot via FoxFi and when I checked my Verizon account it showed up as normal data usage and not hotspot. I connected my smart TV to my hotspot to stream Netflix and it showed up as me using lots of GB's to watch videos. That's all it showed. I'm not sure how you're on the grandfathered UDP and only get 10GB per month for hotspot if you're using FoxFi though, unless you were talking about moving to the new plan, and if that's the case then you would do the work around of removing the SIM card (posted somewhere on these forums) or flash the U firmware and it shouldn't show up on your account as hotspot if the phone doesn't search for subscriber information or is unsuccessful in searching for said info.
d33dvb said:
Like this:
echo "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" >> /system/build.prop
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This wont let you have more than 10gb, this is a limit on the server side, nothing you do will change that.
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What does that string of code actually do and how is it seen by VZ? The 10gb limit is not a cap - it's just a boundary where they're supposed to throttle your 4g speeds to 3g. I'm just wondering what triggers them noticing that. I'm curious how unlocking the native tethering feature on a rooted phone allows grandfathered unlimited plans the ability to use this feature when it's normally blocked.
Does it cover up the fact that the hotspot is even turned on so it changes all tethered data to be seen by VZ as normal cell data (not tethered data)? Or does it just unlock the tethering feature and gives you the ability to use the feature and VZ still knows the difference?
Outbreak444 said:
I'm on the grandfathered UDP and don't have hotspot activated on my account. With that I was using hotspot via FoxFi and when I checked my Verizon account it showed up as normal data usage and not hotspot. I connected my smart TV to my hotspot to stream Netflix and it showed up as me using lots of GB's to watch videos. That's all it showed. I'm not sure how you're on the grandfathered UDP and only get 10GB per month for hotspot if you're using FoxFi though, unless you were talking about moving to the new plan, and if that's the case then you would do the work around of removing the SIM card (posted somewhere on these forums) or flash the U firmware and it shouldn't show up on your account as hotspot if the phone doesn't search for subscriber information or is unsuccessful in searching for said info.
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Outbreak is right - there is no 10gb limit with the grandfathered plans. I believe Bart is talking about converting from the old plan to the new plan (like I am) if we can get around the possible downgrade in speeds that's supposed to occur at 10gb.
You mentioned 2 possible work-arounds, but one involves pulling the SIM. Could you provide a link for either of the methods? However, from what I know of VZ is that a SIM is required for the phone to work.
Thanks - keep the suggestions coming.
brettdacosta said:
You mentioned 2 possible work-arounds, but one involves pulling the SIM. Could you provide a link for either of the methods? However, from what I know of VZ is that a SIM is required for the phone to work.
Thanks - keep the suggestions coming.
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Here's the link to the SIM removal method, seems to be a hit or miss though and states it's for nougat but I think it would work on marshmallow as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/tethering-nougat-t3568501/page2
Or you can flash the U firmware for the US. It should just unlock tethering completely without actually searching for subscriber information. I don't have the link but it's easily found on the forums. Just know that the U firmware doesn't have nougat at this time.
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It should just unlock tethering completely without actually searching for subscriber information.
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Thanks, Outbreak.
How does it actually work/function though? Will VZ still be able to distinguish between data used by my cell and data transfered to another device via the phone's native hotspot feature?
That's the whole point of this thread, but I can't seem to get any real answers (or even speculations for that matter)
brettdacosta said:
Thanks, Outbreak.
How does it actually work/function though? Will VZ still be able to distinguish between data used by my cell and data transfered to another device via the phone's native hotspot feature?
That's the whole point of this thread, but I can't seem to get any real answers (or even speculations for that matter)
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When I checked my account it showed 0.0 GB of hotspot used and about 100 GB's of standard data. They didn't see at all that I was using my hotspot, only excessive amount of data usage. I wouldn't sweat it unless you're going to end up using like 300 GB's. I even bought the S7 AFTER having that much used and the reps looked amazed but couldn't see how I used as much as I had. I wish I could pull up what My Verizon showed to prove it to you but it only shows the last two months worth of data and I haven't used tethering recently.
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When I checked my account it showed 0.0 GB of hotspot used and about 100 GB's of standard data. They didn't see at all that I was using my hotspot, only excessive amount of data usage. I wouldn't sweat it unless you're going to end up using like 300 GB's. I even bought the S7 AFTER having that much used and the reps looked amazed but couldn't see how I used as much as I had. I wish I could pull up what My Verizon showed to prove it to you but it only shows the last two months worth of data and I haven't used tethering recently.
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Great info.
- So when you used 100GB of standard data, that was all through your hotspot?
- Which VZ plan are you on?
- What's your current phone setup (aka - what method did you use for bypassing the tethering restriction)?
- Where do you find a breakdown of your hotspot data to standard data (is it on your online account)?
- Since you obviously went over the 22GB, did you notice any slowdowns (like they say they reserve the right to implement)
- What type of area are you in (rural - not a lot of cell tower access / high trafficked area - for the purpose of the last question)?
Thanks for all the great info. I know that was a lot of questions, but I think if you are able to answering all of those, I should have about all I need.
Thanks again.
P.S. - it's my only internet at the house, so I can't afford it slowing me down if I'm at the house wanting to stream a movie or something after 10gb - that's why I'm concerned - just felt I needed to clarify.
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Great info.
- So when you used 100GB of standard data, that was all through your hotspot?
- Which VZ plan are you on?
- What's your current phone setup (aka - what method did you use for bypassing the tethering restriction)?
- Where do you find a breakdown of your hotspot data to standard data (is it on your online account)?
Thanks for all the great info. I know that was a lot of questions, but I think if you are able to answering all of those, I should have about all I need.
Thanks again.
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Not 100% of my data usage was hotspot but a good 90% or more was.
I have the grandfathered UDP from Verizon
At the time I was using my rooted S5 with tethering unlocked through xposed, now I have the S7 with FoxFi
Just log into your Verizon account online and it should have a breakdown. Most of my data showed up under the video category, which was correct because I was tethering my hotspot to my smart TV for streaming Netflix. So it can see what I'm doing, just not how, I believe.
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Not 100% of my data usage was hotspot but a good 90% or more was.
I have the grandfathered UDP from Verizon
At the time I was using my rooted S5 with tethering unlocked through xposed, now I have the S7 with FoxFi
Just log into your Verizon account online and it should have a breakdown. Most of my data showed up under the video category, which was correct because I was tethering my hotspot to my smart TV for streaming Netflix. So it can see what I'm doing, just not how, I believe.
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Where do you see the breakdown by standard usage and tethering?
I'm still on the grandfathered UDP too, and use tethering all the time, but here is all I see when I log on (no breakdown)...
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Where do you see the breakdown by standard usage and tethering?
I'm still on the grandfathered UDP too, and use tethering all the time, but here is all I see when I log on (no breakdown)...
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Used to show up there. Here's a link from Verizon with a screenshot
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
That's good information.
So why do you use the foxfi app and not the native tethering feature? Because you're on nougat?
Do you think that being rooted and using the XPosed app is what prevents them from seeing it - or the fact that I'm on the grandfathered UDP and their system isn't capable of actually reporting that piece of information (since it's a feature that's technically locked) - and if I go the new plan that "unlocks" the tethering, they'll then be able to tell the difference and their system will be able to display it since it's aware of what's actually happening?
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That's good information.
So why do you use the foxfi app and not the native tethering feature? Because you're on nougat?
Do you think that being rooted and using the XPosed app is what prevents them from seeing it - or the fact that I'm on the grandfathered UDP and their system isn't capable of actually reporting that piece of information (since it's a feature that's technically locked) - and if I go the new plan that "unlocks" the tethering, they'll then be able to tell the difference and their system will be able to display it since it's aware of what's actually happening?
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I haven't rooted my S7 or flashed the U firmware yet. I want to wait until nougat is released for the U firmware before I do that.
Hotspot is built into the phone already. I believe that if it doesn't search for subscriber information that the phone will just enable the connections and all your phone provider can see is that you're using data, but they can't see how. This is my opinion, maybe someone else could enlighten us on the specifics. But I can say that being rooted, using Xposed, or being on the grandfathered plan has nothing to do with it other than removing the check for subscriber information, basically what one user posted earlier in this post.
The back does not come off of a S7 so there is no SIM card. I also depend on FoxFi i
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What does that string of code actually do and how is it seen by VZ? The 10gb limit is not a cap - it's just a boundary where they're supposed to throttle your 4g speeds to 3g. I'm just wondering what triggers them noticing that. I'm curious how unlocking the native tethering feature on a rooted phone allows grandfathered unlimited plans the ability to use this feature when it's normally blocked.
Does it cover up the fact that the hotspot is even turned on so it changes all tethered data to be seen by VZ as normal cell data (not tethered data)? Or does it just unlock the tethering feature and gives you the ability to use the feature and VZ still knows the difference?
Outbreak is right - there is no 10gb limit with the grandfathered plans. I believe Bart is talking about converting from the old plan to the new plan (like I am) if we can get around the possible downgrade in speeds that's supposed to occur at 10gb.
You mentioned 2 possible work-arounds, but one involves pulling the SIM. Could you provide a link for either of the methods? However, from what I know of VZ is that a SIM is required for the phone to work.
Thanks - keep the suggestions coming.
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The back does not come off of a S7 so there is no SIM card. I also depend on FoxFi in the work I do (teaching) and it did a fabulous job.