We all know that if someone makes a source code for our device (F/I/S/K/L/A/Z/W8/FD) It will be easier to port it to non-international variants.
And I think that porting from one device to another will be easier too.
Ex:-Note5 to S6 to S6e to S6e+
I have seen many pledge threads(almost every thread i have seen about bounty) making a big breakthrough in porting in XDA.
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A legitimate bounty should be started by someone other than the recipient, preferably an established member of the community. The recipient should be aware of and endorse the bounty and agree to its purpose. A set goal should be announced and totals kept current. No money should be collected up front but pledged to be sent to the recipient's donation link once goal is reached. Please also note bounties should be for significant critical development projects, not to get your favorite developers a new toy....that is what their DONATE link is for.
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By making this bounty I mean no disrespect for free-time developers but I think this will speed up the porting of AOSP based roms for our Galaxy S6 devices.
Some of the many examples available, if you still doubt this you can google for yourself.
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Making/Increasing a pledge of yours.
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PLEDGES - You have to pay after we get a source code
thefunnyone -$25
tyrany - $20
flyingcolors -$25
sylvester711 - $10
ytwytw - $10
middlethinkr - $60
feinripp3dfx - $50
gboss01 - $10-$20
ktetreault14 - $10-$25
ctxz -$20
taxi333 - $10
sapnesh - $100
rodelisdeman - $25
nezorflame - $10
skreedi - $20
akidufish - $10
gadomido - $2
svensonic1 - $1
ammarwajihi - $5
bigbossclk -$10
stormonya - $10
ennis214 - $10
CrispiVizz - $10
Mucky2 -$10
ganklah - $20
omrij - $15
Dissmeister - $30
xdeadx - $20
fritsypeij - $20
Total -------- $603
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I'll enter with 5$
hope for the best
Isn't it easier to bribe someone at Samsung to leak the Exynos 7x source code?
FlyingColors - $25
Quintz said:
Isn't it easier to bribe someone at Samsung to leak the Exynos 7x source code?
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I doubt they have even created the source code, or if they have created it properly.
I'll pledge $10.
Where's the link to do that? Or we chip in at the end when someone is finally able to do it?
So you throw cash at a phone without doing research
Then you realize you want some other rom
So you throw cash at $randomperson to fix it
Even if you succeed with that, Samsung who caused this unfortunate situation will ultimately benefit, because people think their phones can get custom Roms.
It is your money, but do you really want that?
Just accept your fate and buy a customer friendly device next time, there are plenty of options where the vendor does not actively hate their customer.
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So you throw cash at a phone without doing research
Then you realize you want some other rom
So you throw cash at $randomperson to fix it
Even if you succeed with that, Samsung who caused this unfortunate situation will ultimately benefit, because people think their phones can get custom Roms.
It is your money, but do you really want that?
Just accept your fate and buy a customer friendly device next time, there are plenty of options where the vendor does not actively hate their customer.
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Who said that I didnt know about samsung and their open source friendliness when I bought this device?
I have used 2 of exynos devices and I have developed for one of them
You cant tell that its nearly impossible, It is just hard thats all.
Even minor devices with exynos had gotten working AOSP roms.
So if you dont know better keep your mouth shut and stop discouraging prople.
Community-driven AOSP ROMs are 100% created by multiple developers, not one.
In our case, we would significantly benefit from the work of Note 4 developers(mainly RaymanFX).
1 man getting such bounty while basing on, benefiting from other developers is simply unfair and will most likely piss off other contributors.
If AOSP ROM ever comes to Exynos 7420, the main developer(or OP of such threads) will encourage users to donate to other contributors and users will donate accordingly to their amount of work, as it always have been.
If you can't figure out a proper way to distribute the amount of bounty accordingly to each contributors, I cannot support this kind of bounty.
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Community-driven AOSP ROMs are 100% created by multiple developers, not one.
In our case, we would significantly benefit from the work of Note 4 developers(mainly RaymanFX).
1 man getting such bounty while basing on, benefiting from other developers is simply unfair and will most likely piss off other contributors.
If AOSP ROM ever comes to Exynos 7420, the main developer(or OP of such threads) will encourage users to donate to other contributors and users will donate accordingly to their amount of work, as it always have been.
If you can't figure out a proper way to distribute the amount of bounty accordingly to each contributors, I cannot support this kind of bounty.
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Yeah, I have already thought of this problem, and I have considered about splitting the money between everyone in a manner that they all agree, they were all working with cooperation, right?
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Community-driven AOSP ROMs are 100% created by multiple developers, not one.
In our case, we would significantly benefit from the work of Note 4 developers(mainly RaymanFX).
1 man getting such bounty while basing on, benefiting from other developers is simply unfair and will most likely piss off other contributors.
If AOSP ROM ever comes to Exynos 7420, the main developer(or OP of such threads) will encourage users to donate to other contributors and users will donate accordingly to their amount of work, as it always have been.
If you can't figure out a proper way to distribute the amount of bounty accordingly to each contributors, I cannot support this kind of bounty.
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And I think it was a bounty operation that people bought note 4 for Raymanfx after he promised development.
The thread from note 4 exynos development.
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And I think it was a bounty operation that people bought note 4 for Raymanfx after he promised development.
The thread from note 4 exynos development.
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It's more of a fund-raiser.
You can ask RaymanFX if you can open one. He sure knows about Exynos
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It's more of a fund-raiser.
You can ask RaymanFX if you can open one. He sure knows about Exynos
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Sure and I know you know about exynos devices more than me and I mean no disrepect for you and I admire your works for S3 korean, s3, s6, i9506 and I have only been using your works for a while.
I just think that this pledging will somehow convince new developers to join this project or it will help make developers working part time in this project some more time and help this device get the trees If you suggest me we can change the thread to be like making a working display driver for exynos 7420?
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It's more of a fund-raiser.
You can ask RaymanFX if you can open one. He sure knows about Exynos
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And if you think this is a right kind of work please show your support. You dont even have to donate money. Even if you give a word to your followers. I think it will revolutionize this pledging project.
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Sure and I know you know about exynos devices more than me and I mean no disrepect for you and I admire your works for S3 korean, s3, s6, i9506 and I have only been using your works for a while.
I just think that this pledging will somehow convince new developers to join this project or it will help make developers working part time in this project some more time and help this device get the trees If you suggest me we can change the thread to be like making a working display driver for exynos 7420?
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These *new developers* wouldn't even have an S6 and would have trouble purchasing them.
Fundraising it for well-known Exynos developers such as GeeckoDev or RaymanFX would result much better than a bounty, if they are willing to work on this nightmare Exynos 7420.
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These *new developers* wouldn't even have an S6 and would have trouble purchasing them.
Fundraising it for well-known Exynos developers such as GeeckoDev or RaymanFX would result much better than a bounty, if they are willing to work on this nightmare Exynos 7420.
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So, do you suggest that we can make a fund raiser instead of trying to make the ones with s6 to develop for this device?
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Hi, a developer called pulser_g2 developer called codeworx made this petition for Samsung to be more open and be a lot more developer friendly, this petition is for all Samsung android devices, not just the s2. So I thought I would post it here in the hope a few of you may consider singing it please
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
Thank you
Edit: Sorry I made a mistake, the developer Codeworx just heavily promoted the petition, pulser_g2 is the developer who made it, and thanks entropy512 for pointing the mistake out
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Hi, on the galaxy s2 forum, the cm9 developer called codeworx made this petition for Samsung to be more open and be a lot more developer friendly, this petition is for all Samsung android devices, not just the s2. So I thought I would post it here in the hope a few of you may consider singing it please
http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...t-achieve-full-potential-of-purchased-devices
Thank you
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Actually pulser_g2 created it - codeworkx is just pushing it hard. (he deserves to as he's the one maintaining CM9...)
Also consider pestering them on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/search/users/samsung
Signed
10char
Im hoping the lack of posts in this thread just means people arent commenting in this thread but have signed the petition
I submitted this as a tip for the portal page, hopefully it gets picked up, since being on the portal would generate more interest in this
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Im hoping the lack of posts in this thread just means people arent commenting in this thread but have signed the petition
I submitted this as a tip for the portal page, hopefully it gets picked up, since being on the portal would generate more interest in this
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Only reason it's not on the portal is because pulser forgot his portal password (He even said so elsewhere.)
(This petition was filed by one of our senior moderator team.)
I haven't signed yet, but that is because I plan on writing a fairly decent bit on why cooperating with developers will benefit Samsung in my "Reason" field and need a bit more time.
signed!
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signed
Signed.
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IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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Only reason it's not on the portal is because pulser forgot his portal password (He even said so elsewhere.)
(This petition was filed by one of our senior moderator team.)
I haven't signed yet, but that is because I plan on writing a fairly decent bit on why cooperating with developers will benefit Samsung in my "Reason" field and need a bit more time.
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LOL shows you what I know
Dont know any of the mods here
Joe T said:
IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.
They are now failing to comply with the GPL with kernel source for many devices on a regular basis. The Infuse AT&T update took a month for source to show up, and Samsung ignored multiple requests for source in compliance with the GPL. The one time they answered, they claimed that they didn't have to provide source because they had stopped providing the update - that's bull****. If you provide a binary to someone, you MUST provide them the source - even if you are no longer providing binaries to other people.
They go out of their way to avoid releasing source whenever possible - see the AR6000 driver fiasco on the Tab 7 Plus.
The Galaxy S II hardware donation to the Cyanogenmod team was nothing but a PR stunt. If you follow the progress of CM9 on the I9100, you'll see that in addition to not providing any assistance to codeworkx and xplodwild, they are actively throwing barriers in the way. For example, secure containers (used by many apps) are disabled if a custom kernel is used in ICS.
Compare this to Sony, who provided technical assistance to the Cyanogenmod team leading to their entire 2011 lineup being well supported by CM, and also open-sourcing their sensor HALs when they didn't need to. They have also provided OFFICIAL ICS alphas and betas including source in compliance with the GPL, while everyone else just has leaks.
Unless Samsung changes their attitude - my next phone will be a Sony or a Nexus of some sort.
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The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.....
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Wow, I didn't realize all of that. As a GNex owner, I suppose I'm looking at things through rose colored glasses. I thought they changed a lot since the Froyogate fiasco which they received a lot of bad press. Thanks for the info, petition signed!
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Especially since I have 2 Samsung devices currently
Entropy512 said:
The problem is they have, over time, become increasingly antagonistic to platform developers.
They are now failing to comply with the GPL with kernel source for many devices on a regular basis. The Infuse AT&T update took a month for source to show up, and Samsung ignored multiple requests for source in compliance with the GPL. The one time they answered, they claimed that they didn't have to provide source because they had stopped providing the update - that's bull****. If you provide a binary to someone, you MUST provide them the source - even if you are no longer providing binaries to other people.
They go out of their way to avoid releasing source whenever possible - see the AR6000 driver fiasco on the Tab 7 Plus.
The Galaxy S II hardware donation to the Cyanogenmod team was nothing but a PR stunt. If you follow the progress of CM9 on the I9100, you'll see that in addition to not providing any assistance to codeworkx and xplodwild, they are actively throwing barriers in the way. For example, secure containers (used by many apps) are disabled if a custom kernel is used in ICS.
Compare this to Sony, who provided technical assistance to the Cyanogenmod team leading to their entire 2011 lineup being well supported by CM, and also open-sourcing their sensor HALs when they didn't need to. They have also provided OFFICIAL ICS alphas and betas including source in compliance with the GPL, while everyone else just has leaks.
Unless Samsung changes their attitude - my next phone will be a Sony or a Nexus of some sort.
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very well said
Done
Thanks for the info...
Everything to help the devs...
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signed.. hope this petition will do something
Joe T said:
IMO, in this day when manufacturers are locking down devices and intentionally making it very difficult for any development, Samsung has really catered to this small community. Companies like Motorola go as far as sabotaging their products to prevent any type hacking, rooting etc.
Sure, Samsung's official software upgrades are slow but I give them a lot of credit for reaching out in ways such as offering some of our top developers free devices.
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I totally agree.I would like Sammy to be more open, like Sony, but I understand they are a company and they have certain policies which will increase their profits...Since my tab has unlocked bootloader and I can flash anything I want I'm ok.
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Signed.... suggest you do also...
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signed........let us know how it goes
Signed. Glad to see this.
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17 November 2014: Goal has been reached and tablet is now in the hands of RaymanFX. Still feel free to support and donate to help him continue to prepare for his upcoming works. You can see his progress at github.com/raymanfx and
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/status:open+exynos,n,z
Under Christopher Hesse
Hello everyone,
I am creating this thread on behalf of @RaymanFX , a recognized developer who needs a device to develop for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
He is looking to develop for the P600, WiFi only model and is looking to make AOSP/CM roms and kernels for us.
Here is a previous thread of his: http://forum.xda-developers.com/find-7/orig-development/rom-teameos-revival-nightlies-t2826587
And here is a list of previous threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=319162976
Quote by RaymanFX:
most of you probably don't know me since I did not develop for Samsung devices for quite some time now.
I would be interested in aiding the Exynos 5420 development scene (in particular on the Galaxy Note 10.1) and prepare a custom Android distribution for it (Team EOS 5.0 - Lollipop).
I can get all the required drivers and binaries I need for development, since most of it is open source luckily.
And the Nexus 10 (manta) can still be used as reference for many things.
All I need is a development device to debug on.
It is particularly important that this is the Galaxy Note 10.1 EXYNOS (WiFi-only variant), and not the LTE (Qualcomm) variant.
I created this thread to ask whether someone has a spare device lying around, maybe because of the little development on Exynos 5 devices, or if people would be willing to donate a device (I'm a university student and unfortunately can not afford the full price for a new device. I'm willing to dive into the Exynos development scene and spend time on this device though, including extensive debugging).
Thank you two for your reasonable thoughts.
I think the main reason why the previous developers stopped developing for this device rather quickly is the Exynos chip.
The main difference between me and anyone else is (or so I believe) the fact that I am especially interested in developing for the Exynos 5420 chip and the drivers for it (mainly from the Insignal forum source).
As far as bricked devices, I can say I had a Samsung device before, and as long as the bootloader is unlockable and access to ODIN (The firmware flashing tool) is granted, a hard brick is rather hard to achieve. I see little risk here, and I assume my previous development experience will prevent me from making major mistakes in that regard.
A new device would cost me approximately 350€, so if we could collect about 300$ with donations (which would equal something like 270€), I'd pay the remaining costs.
People are of course free to check my development history and/or references first and see if they think I would benefit the aosp development scene for this device.
The ROM I mentioned (Team EOS 5.0 lollipop) is essentially AOSP 5.0 with selected features that we code ourselves, like EOS Weather, or the NX gesture interface.
If people however see the need for an official CM maintainer, I'd be happy to become this as well, all I need is a device to debug and develop on, I'd be willing to spend the time to officially maintain this device.
Other developers and/or contributors should also expect support from me in areas of kernel development or AOSP custom ROM development. I believe in 'sharing is caring', so all my knowledge and achievements on this device shall benefit the community.
If some of you could maybe contact the people who raised donations before, I'd be thankful and gratious for the support. All donations will be listed here and the whole process shall be as transparent as possible.
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Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...laxy-note-10-1-2014-exynos-developer-t2936508
He is very committed to getting this device and developing for us so let's get him this device. He needs at least $300 so just write below how much you would be willing to donate if the funds were raised for the device. I will update this post with the names and how much people are willing to donate :good:
If at least 30 people donate say $10 for example then we can do this easily. I pledge $10 dollars so lets get this started!!
List of donations so far:
Euro:
22sl22: €10
@r4yN €20
@benni_1994 €20
@GrimReaper1908 €15
@ollimi1 €10
@henriavelabarbe €25
@murmlgrmpf €10
@TOMMY1985 €10
@zazael €10
@rglebien €10
@SubZeroEffort €20
Dollars:
@emilycloud $20
@mrtoast $30
@benjamimgois $10
@talz13 $50
@mikep2323 $25
@buffalo_guy $20
@bokmob $25
@redbaron $20
@JosephFeliciano013 $5
@jwjessie488 $20
@aelunyu $25
@MxCraft $30
@Googfan $15
Total so far: Approx.€403/$503
20$ from me (sry I'm a poor student )
We'll be doing this via PayPal, I assume?
r4yN said:
20$ from me (sry I'm a poor student )
We'll be doing this via PayPal, I assume?
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$20 is perfect, any donations are helpful
Yes PayPal. If you look at his profile there's a link there. I'll add your name to the list :good:
Alright, I've just donated 20€ (which equals ~25$ if I'm not mistaken). It would be great, if @RaymanFX confirmed the transaction (I've refered to XDA in the transaction note, but if you need the transaction ID, write me a PN)
PS: I know I said I'd donate 20$, but I figured since he's german, I could just as well donate 20€ instead :highfive:
And I also know that you usually don't donate until enough pledges have been made, but I have faith that we will make it. And if we don't, well, consider it a donation for the effort, lol
Edit: Transaction ID # 89F56830A9644882H
$365 on eBay (refurbished)
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...1386122200?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item2a3b7493d8
r4yN said:
Alright, I've just donated 20€ (which equals ~25$ if I'm not mistaken). It would be great, if @RaymanFX confirmed the transaction (I've refered to XDA in the transaction note, but if you need the transaction ID, write me a PN)
PS: I know I said I'd donate 20$, but I figured since he's german, I could just as well donate 20€ instead :highfive:
And I also know that you usually don't donate until enough pledges have been made, but I have faith that we will make it. And if we don't, well, consider it a donation for the effort, lol
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Hey, thanks a ton
I can cofirm the 20€ (!) donation is now on my PayPal account.
RaymanFX said:
Hey, thanks a ton
I can cofirm the 20€ (!) donation is now on my PayPal account.
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thanks for confirming
Btw since you're german, THIS might be an interesting offer (although I'm not sure about the warranty)
265€ = ~330$ (free shipping within germany)
I'll donate 20€ at the end of the month!
You can add me on the list
Is there anyway to donate directly from debit card? Paypal has problems with my card and renders the service unusable.
Pazzu510 said:
Is there anyway to donate directly from debit card? Paypal has problems with my card and renders the service unusable.
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It depends. If you live in Germany it will obviously be easier. If not, it depends from country to country. What country are you in?
Hi there,
nice to see that at least one person is not scared away by the exynos cpu
You can count me in for 15€
I have a question though:
How is this handled? Are we donating all at once when enough people have expressed their will to donate?
Or should I already donate so that you can be sure that I'm serious?
GrimReaper1908 said:
Hi there,
nice to see that at least one person is not scared away by the exynos cpu
You can count me in for 15€
I have a question though:
How is this handled? Are we donating all at once when enough people have expressed their will to donate?
Or should I already donate so that you can be sure that I'm serious?
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The donating is a personal thing. I worded things in the op to be safe. It's just easier if people pledge, say they are gonna donate, and then once the amount has been reached people can actually donate.
Say for example, there are no pledges and we raise 200 dollars that people have already donated in a few weeks and then people lose interest and not a lot of donations come in anymore. I don't want people to be angry if the dev doesn't end up getting the tablet. :good:
Better to pledge but if you want to donate right now that's fine. Either way i'll add you to the list
Could you in the title add that this is for the exynos variant. It mislead me into thinking this was for the snapdragon until I read a little.
Ok I'm in for $20. Maybe a little more if we get close! Awesome guys.
In for $30 ?
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I just sent $10... hope that helps !
I'm in for $50
Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
RaymanFX said:
Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
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Yes, only 100 dollars left now, we are nearly there! This is going really well.
Do you have the name of the person who donated? I can add them to the list :good:
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RaymanFX said:
Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
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Ill throw in 25 dollars. Would you like me to donate now? If yes I can do when I get home.
Hello.... I'm starting this thread to set up a bounty for a working device tree.. For the sprint note 4..I am lacking in time to create one myself but have all the experience and ability to use it... So figured I'd offer a bounty to anyone willing to create us a working device tree to use to build Roms from source.... What I'm wanting is a tree that I can build cm and aosp based Roms from.... I'm not asking for Roms I'm asking for a tree that works that I can use to build the Roms myself as well as others.....
If interested in chipping in please list the amount and I'll add your name to the list..... Please Only people who are actually going to donate when/if the time comes ..
Thanks
Bounty:
spleef : $75
Herk718 : $20
Total: $95
@Herk718 $20
I understand the intention here, but I've always found that bounties immediately move work into closed repos, discourages collaboration, and raises questions about who gets the $ if for example, someone gets it 99% there but someone else jumps in for the last step. Will the bounty be split among all collaborators? Will you award the authors of any device repo you fork from? (It's turtles all the way down)
If you want development in the open and people helping each other to get your goal, consider not having a bounty as it's almost never the primary motivator for this kind of work... And often works against what you want. I can tell you personally... My experience with the nook tablet and bounties from a company that wanted to sell the port was pathetic. People were constantly hitting me up on irc and in PM for help, and stealing each others work, and making tiny changes to claim the bounty. Go back and read the forums for acclaim...
Or, look up what happened with the HP Touchpad, which is even more egregious... That fiasco made it to the blogosphere... But the code was flat out stolen and the irc logs pretty jaw dropping.
This is a MUCH smaller project, but still...
fattire said:
I understand the intention here, but I've always found that bounties immediately move work into closed repos, discourages collaboration, and raises questions about who gets the $ if for example, someone gets it 99% there but someone else jumps in for the last step. Will the bounty be split among all collaborators? Will you award the authors of any device repo you fork from? (It's turtles all the way down)
If you want development in the open and people helping each other to get your goal, consider not having a bounty as it's almost never the primary motivator for this kind of work... And often works against what you want. I can tell you personally... My experience with the nook tablet and bounties from a company that wanted to sell the port was pathetic. People were constantly hitting me up on irc and in PM for help, and stealing each others work, and making tiny changes to claim the bounty. Go back and read the forums for acclaim...
Or, look up what happened with the HP Touchpad, which is even more egregious... That fiasco made it to the blogosphere... But the code was flat out stolen and the irc logs pretty jaw dropping.
This is a MUCH smaller project, but still...
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@fattire
I do understand where you are coming from...these bounties most always end badly where someone does exactly as you described but let me try to ease some of your doubts....
What I'm looking for is for a person or team to step forward... Then after a discussion with them I'll add their name to the op as being the person doing the task.... Now no matter who else jumps in or steals code the money will only go to the person or team that I've talked with and is listed in the op..... So far as money split.... I would... during our discussion prior to having someone accept the task... And listing them as accepting the project talk this over and have it all mapped out as who gets what. What I'm expecting... What they're expecting.. The whole nines... Now these type of situations have a tendency of folks saying I'll donate then don't... If that were to be the case I'll donate the full amount myself... To address the closed repo.... I have a github account and have had one for years as well as being an XDA member for ages.... With a very good reputation.... My account on github is open and always will be... The idea here is to have a source for the public not just me...I have no intention on making anything private or closed source...... My only intentions are too get a device tree that we can use to build cm and aosp based roms from source... The idea of the bounty is solely to draw attention and offer a incentive to someone who is interested, willing, and able to provide us with the tree... I hope I've cleared up at least a little of your worries/doubts....And to be perfectly honest ...I hope that you and slayher accept the task... If you need to further discuss anything please feel free to contact me...I have several ways of doing so listed in my profile but I'll go ahead and list my hangouts info... [email protected]
Enjoy. https://github.com/slayher/android_device_samsung_trltespr
slayher said:
Enjoy. https://github.com/slayher/android_device_samsung_trltespr
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Whoa... He's a wizard.
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Slayer gets my donation he and always will be the captain
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@slayher
Nicely done...I understand its a wip but using this I will be able to build? And will you continue to fix it up as things progress or is this a here it is I'm done sort of thing?
I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
slayher said:
I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
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Willing to give u my wifes with a bad esn cause she thought she lost it
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I am fine with that, but its hard to test mms/sms calls etc with a bad esn.
I can be the guinea pig. Yaaay.
Slather I have N910R4 USC. I can build test for our variant. Thanks for helping us out.
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Slather I have N910R4 USC. I can build test for our variant. Thanks for helping us out.
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Heh I came to post that Slayher started a repo but there ya go.. guess he posted it already No worries on the bounty thing-- I've just seen it go bad before... it was a cluster****. That was a 3-month project tho.. this shouldn't be anything like that.
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Heh I came to post that Slayher started a repo but there ya go.. guess he posted it already No worries on the bounty thing-- I've just seen it go bad before... it was a cluster****. That was a 3-month project tho.. this shouldn't be anything like that.
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Well I'll still donate my promised portion will do it today.... Thanks a bunch i have the weekend off so I'll be attempting to build once i get off work today
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I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
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Good deal can't thank you enough.... Am going to try using it after work toda... Mind if I get your hangouts info makes things much easier to communicate if something goes funky
I'm going to close this thread today since the tree is in place we no longer need it guys can post in the cm12 thread here in the general section until I get the build uploaded then will create a thread in development section.... Thanks again @slayher @fattire y'all are outstanding.... Very glad to have people like you in the xda
This is not a Nexus 6 specific question, but I'd like to hear from other users about how much to contribute to a developer whose work you either use or who makes a special contribution to the Android community. I typically donate only once, and I try to make "generous" donations. Question is, what is considered an appropriate dollar amount. As I said I try to be "generous", but that is a vague term, and I am not a wealthy user. I won't state here what I consider "generous" for fear of embarrassing myself or others.
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This is not a Nexus 6 specific question, but I'd like to hear from other users about how much to contribute to a developer whose work you either use or who makes a special contribution to the Android community. I typically donate only once, and I try to make "generous" donations. Question is, what is considered an appropriate dollar amount. As I said I try to be "generous", but that is a vague term, and I am not a wealthy user. I won't state here what I consider "generous" for fear of embarrassing myself or others.
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I am not afraid to state what i donate anywhere between 20-50 dollars depending on the work. Root exploits bootloader unlocks. It really depends on the work.
I am not saying no work should go un noticed. Just saying that people offer more for much looked at project compared to others. Like people love xposed they will donate more than to someone that developed something else not so popular. Again I am not bashing anyone or any developer. Just depends on what is being developed IMHO.
I like to think my donation can buy them a good six pack of beer. so in my mind around $10 maybe $25 if they are doing outstanding work .
I also usually support developers in the Play Store even if I really don't need their particular application. I have probably spent $200.... 1 dollar at a time.
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I personally used every cm13 and lineOS14 from Meticulus and the development was good. Android as a open source OS developers preferring money for developments is completely not the right way. Hope that the developers figure out this problems and not abandon hundreds and thousands of users who trusted the developers and have love and passion for a clean OS to their phones.
Stawp.
He got pissed off bc people did not respect the rules in 8 out of 10 replys in his Dev Thread not bc he wanted to be a millionaire, wtf?
He mainly build the source. If he decides to ask a donation for it so people will buzz off it's his problem not yours.
Next time respect rules in Dev Thread.
(i am not a sponsor of his)
But, nothing see?
Server of devs cost Money
Build machines cost Money
Devices cost Money
Example:
Build machine (basic) on old hardware but 64b support= 150$
Basic Server = 50$ per year
BadWolfYe said:
But, nothing see?
Server of devs cost Money
Build machines cost Money
Devices cost Money
Example:
Build machine (basic) on old hardware but 64b support= 150$
Basic Server = 50$ per year
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Meticulus uses a free webhost and a free domain. = 0 $
Community donated for his p9 lite = 0$
Build machines aka his pc is his own property for daily use so all in all he pays nothing.
Coolyou said:
Meticulus uses a free webhost and a free domain. = 0 $
Community donated for his p9 lite = 0$
Build machines aka his pc is his own property for daily use so all in all he pays nothing.
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And the internet are free?
And the time?
You job and no receive Money?
Do you think it's okay to sell other's work ?
Do you think those who contributed to lineage os will be happy to see someone making profit out of it ?
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And the internet are free?
And the time?
You job and no receive Money?
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You are not obligated to receive any money for your home needs from us. We all pay for basic needs, things you do here you wilingly choose to do as volunteer and making projects based on someones else source(lineage os) is not a full time job. So making roms is NOT a full time job, it's a volunteer job.
Ok....
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You are not obligated to receive any money for your home needs from us. We all pay for basic needs, things you do here you wilingly choose to do as volunteer and making projects based on someones else source(lineage os) is not a full time job. So making roms is NOT a full time job, it's a volunteer job.
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To the point well said. Asking for a donation is no problem. But distributing a free OS only for a payment is not legally correct even.
Can we please end this debate? He got his P9 Lite from donations and uses free hosting services, so stop crying for him. Putting open source software behind a paywall is something the guy should be called out for, and that's it. He thinks he will get rid of the guys "bothering" him with questions, but the reality is he has a much lower user base so he also receives much lower feedback.
I follow the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 subforum where people ask even more retarded questions than people ask here on the P9 Lite subforum, but the developers never said "OMG this is so noobish I will stop developing"... But that's his decision and who am I to judge really...
The only choice we have is to wait for the official OTA and then find a way to root so we can debloat it... Or pay the guy's fee and enter his "secret" G+ group and receive updates from him. That's all.
Dorin21 said:
Next time respect rules in Dev Thread.
(i am not a sponsor of his)
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This is bs and I'll tell you why. You can call a mod to clean the thread when things get out of hand.
beanstown106 must be a god :"D
I'm going to stop this one here guys. People are free to do what they want of course, but asking for donations for anything other than a tip and and a thanks, is not allowed on XDA. :good:
Cheers,
Darth
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