Droid Turbo 2 vs. Nexus 6p - Droid Turbo 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm assuming these are the two big phones that are in the spotlight at the moment. Both have their pros and cons, one gains what the other one lacks and vice versa. Which do you believe is the superior device?
Both contain the Snapdragon 810, 3GB RAM and a Quad HD screen so they should be virtually the same, performance wise.
Pros of Nexus 6p:
Android M right right out of the box
Pure Android experience with the quickest updates (we know how long other brands take to update)
Finger print scanner
USB type C
Cheaper price
Very clear AMOLED display
Unlockable bootloader
Pros of Droid Turbo 2:
"Shatterproof Display"
Micro SD card (finally!)
Moto Maker (ability to customize your phone)
Larger battery
Flash on the front facing camera (pretty cool)
Wireless charging
Specs based on personal preference:
Screen size(5.7 on the 6p vs. 5.4 on the DT2)
Camera (21 MP on the DT2 vs. 12.3 MP on the 6p)
POLED(which everyone seems to be complaining about) on the DT2 vs. AMOLED on the 6p
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Superior, 6p hands down. Outside of the battery and possibly the camera the 6p beats the Turbo2 in most measurable areas, including portability and unlock-ability.
For me I am looking for a device with a very large battery, so this is at the top of my list. I also still have a 2 year contract so with the subsidy I am hoping it will be a reasonable price.
That all depends on the display. I need to see one in person to make sure the display will be good for me as I have also seen a lot of mixed reviews, mostly negative.

How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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He probably means rooting/roming.

Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess

rajuabju said:
Or between carriers. Turbo 2 being VZW exclusive, even if it gets unlocked BL (unlikely!) ever, probably minimal dev support.
The big downfall, personal to me, of the 6P is size. I just dont want a phone that large.
I love my current Turbo. just not convinced this is enough of a spec bump to upgrade though. will have to see it in person I guess
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You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.

Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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DarkWolf747 said:
He probably means rooting/roming.
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JasonJoel said:
How is the 6p better for portability? The turbo 2 is physically smaller, which means more portable to me.
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calash said:
You got it, sorry for the poor choice of terms.
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JasonJoel said:
Ah, good point. I never switch carriers, so didn't think about that...
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graymonkey44 said:
Pros of Nexus 6p:
Unlockable bootloader
The locked bootloader on the Turbo 2 has me nervous because I took a gamble with the original Turbo and, luckily, we ended up getting a decent way of rooting the phone; I don't know if I can take that risk again. Not only that, but Motorola really broke our trust with its claims of the original Turbo getting lollipop "before the end of 2014". What a joke that was. All we felt were pain and broken promises.
I do miss having an external SD card so that is the one thing that is leaning me towards the Turbo 2, but I wish they could just take the best qualities of both phones to make the ultimate superphone.
Which do you think is the superior device?
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Just look for the Moto X Force, is the international version of the Turbo 2.

I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.

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I wanted the nexus 6p. But I dont have almost 700 bucks for the 64gb plus the insurance. Me and my gf just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. I choose the droid turbo 2. I've never had a droid device before. It seems nice and I don't need a case on my phone since the screen won't shatter. Plus Verizon gave me 300 dollars for a trade in. Half went to my droid turbo 2 and the other half went to my gfs note 5. But the payments are much easier to do then to come up with almost 700 up front for a phone.
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How long have you had the device and what are your impressions?
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New Droid Maxx/Ultra

Anyone looking into getting these devices?
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/23/droid-ultra-maxx-specs/
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Nope. I just bought one of these.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
infinit22 said:
Anyone looking into getting these devices?
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/23/droid-ultra-maxx-specs/
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Even though I have always loved Motorola phones I have stayed away from them ever since they started locking the bootloaders. The only exception is the Razr HD MAXX that I own now but that was only because I was able to use Dan's unlock method to rid myself of the locked BL. I love this phone...my next phone would probably be the Motorola X if its unlocked and at 300 dollars off contract.
scoobaspeaz said:
Even though I have always loved Motorola phones I have stayed away from them ever since they started locking the bootloaders. The only exception is the Razr HD MAXX that I own now but that was only because I was able to use Dan's unlock method to rid myself of the locked BL. I love this phone...my next phone would probably be the Motorola X if its unlocked and at 300 dollars off contract.
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I'm going with a Moto X too. Just curious
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Hardware buttons? No thank you.
The hardware buttons don't bother me actually. With a 5" screen not being intruded by a nav bar, it will feel a lot bigger.
Very curious to test the performance of the new q8 processing. 8 cores dedicated to specific things. I'm sure it's fast.
Funny story I received an email from Verizon corporate regarding the new droid lineup and figured I'd call around to some stores. They were all confused thinking I was asking to test a Droid razr maxx, and that they had all been taken down last year upon release of the droid razr hd and maxx. I had to repeat my story five times until I blatantly said "sometimes you guys get new phones a few weeks before they are released, do you have a new droid ultra test unit available?!"
They all had no clue of what model I was even referring to. I'm sorry but if I worked at verizon I would know about what's coming out. It's not like I was asking about the iPhone 6 release date, sheesh
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The Droid Maxx looks quite nice and would suffice for me.
As I live in Europe I hope it will get released here (hope it will be?!) quite soon.
The Maxx seems to fullfill all my needs:
big battery
5" 720p - I'm not so much into 1080p(performance & battery drain)
decent enough hardware
optimized for long battery life
camera will be okay enough for my needs
price below 300€
:good:
Finally I think I will get rid of my galaxy s plus :fingers-crossed:
I'm skipping the Razr Ultra/Maxx lineup.
Not enough of an upgrade from the HD.
Marginal improvements and nothing great. At least not for my "full retail" dollar.
I'm looking at the HTC One or something else later.
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I'm skipping the Razr Ultra/Maxx lineup.
Not enough of an upgrade from the HD.
Marginal improvements and nothing great. At least not for my "full retail" dollar.
I'm looking at the HTC One or something else later.
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Same here. I like the wireless charger, had it with a D3, and the extra battery life is always welcome, but for me there isn't enough reason to spend $700. If I were buying a new phone on contract, yea, I'd get it.
I'm waiting to see if this is the same as the X phone and if that turns out to be half the price as rumored. Motorola cutting an exclusive deal with Verizon seems to throw the whole "Don't be evil" thing out the window. My Xoom LTE still hasn't been updated and that's a Nexus device!
mgerbasio said:
Same here. I like the wireless charger, had it with a D3, and the extra battery life is always welcome, but for me there isn't enough reason to spend $700. If I were buying a new phone on contract, yea, I'd get it.
I'm waiting to see if this is the same as the X phone and if that turns out to be half the price as rumored. Motorola cutting an exclusive deal with Verizon seems to throw the whole "Don't be evil" thing out the window. My Xoom LTE still hasn't been updated and that's a Nexus device!
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The problem, I see is that the X might not be coming to Verizon.
It may be on all *OTHER* carriers as not to compete on the same network. IIf the X is $300, I may for it. Then again if we get the HTC One on Verizon, I'll just keep checking Swappa and see what comes up.
Seems like to get the build quality I want, I have to give up on the SD slot.
Initially I got excited about the DROID MAXX, but then some specs came out saying that none of the new DROIDs have microSD card slots. That is a big feature for me. I am a music-phile and I currently use up most of my 64GB SDcard on my RAZR HD.
Hopefully the Moto X does have an SD Card. otherwise I will think about eventually upgrading to something not Motorola.
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Initially I got excited about the DROID MAXX, but then some specs came out saying that none of the new DROIDs have microSD card slots. That is a big feature for me. I am a music-phile and I currently use up most of my 64GB SDcard on my RAZR HD.
Hopefully the Moto X does have an SD Card. otherwise I will think about eventually upgrading to something not Motorola.
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I won't ever downgrade to a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot or softkeys. Unless that phone has 64+ gigs of internal memory.
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mentose457 said:
I won't ever downgrade to a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot or softkeys. Unless that phone has 64+ gigs of internal memory.
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Same here... Gotta have an SD Card Slot and softkeys built in.
What do you have saved on your phone that can't be accessed from the cloud? Even downloading entire seasons of TV shows I'd have a hard time filling up my phone now with stock memory.
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What do you have saved on your phone that can't be accessed from the cloud? Even downloading entire seasons of TV shows I'd have a hard time filling up my phone now with stock memory.
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It's not what but when those things can be accessed from the cloud that is the problem. The majority of my free time is spent in areas with little to no service. My work also puts me in areas with little to no service. Plus, If one does not have unlimited data then its not practical to stream music and videos when you are on the go.
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It's not what but when those things can be accessed from the cloud that is the problem. The majority of my free time is spent in areas with little to no service. My work also puts me in areas with little to no service. Plus, If one does not have unlimited data then its not practical to stream music and videos when you are on the go.
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Even if we had a connection all the time and unlimited data, streaming (especially 4G) eats battery like crazy. There's the cost as well, you either have to buy the media from the cloud provider or pay for the space. For movies and music you already own a cheap SD card (and a slot to put it in) is a much better solution. HTC has abandoned the SD and Moto seems to be headed that way. Looks like my next phone might be a plastic a$$ Samsung.
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Even if we had a connection all the time and unlimited data, streaming (especially 4G) eats battery like crazy. There's the cost as well, you either have to buy the media from the cloud provider or pay for the space. For movies and music you already own a cheap SD card (and a slot to put it in) is a much better solution. HTC has abandoned the SD and Moto seems to be headed that way. Looks like my next phone might be a plastic a$$ Samsung.
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If it's any consolation the galaxy s5 is rumored to not be made of plastic. :-/ I hate the way these companies are going. I love my SD card slot. I was sold on a droid maxx until they said no SD card slot.
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Plus, If one does not have unlimited data then its not practical to stream music and videos when you are on the go.
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As an Atrix HD owner with the advertised "Unlimited" 2GB AT&T Data Plan....streaming isn't even an option. Tried that once, could only stream 4 hours of video before hitting an overage charge.
How the hell can they legally be allowed to say "Unlimited Data" in big words across the screen then put 2GB in the fine print??? I guess it sounds better than "Unlimited Access to our Networks with Fees incured after the 1st 2GB then a $10 raping every 1GB after that...."
//Yes, a full 4.7GB Linux Live DVD costs an AT&T user $20 with about 300mb left before another overage charge....
Unless many new phones come out with SD Card slots I'd imagine many are going to be sticking with their current phones for longer. And to be honest, there isn't much of a reason to upgrade anyway. On the bright side, HTC has the Butterfly S they just released.
2gb RAM,
5 inch 1080p screen,
1.9Ghz Snapdragon 600
Android 4.2.2
And.......SD Card Slot.
If I HAVE to replace my Maxx HD id get the maxx. Locked bootloader sucks, no SDcard sucks, but damnit, I can not go near a phone that has battery life of most of todays phones. After suffering through the Galaxy nexus's absolutely retarded battery its just not gonna happen. I used to keep 3 EXTENDED batteries with me on that thing, now I dont even have to worry about it.

HTC One vs Moto X (Verizon)

I'll be getting either the supposedly "blue" HTC One or the Moto X on Verizon by the end of this month. We all know the Moto X is slightly underspecced compared to the One but supposedly it's got a massive slew of new features and the PRICE tag equivalent to a dollar menu item at McDonalds compared to a Big Mac; assuming that you can get it from Google Play for Verizon. (Sorry for the run-on sentence)
Here's what will make or break my decision.
If the Moto X does these, I will not buy:
Lag: I will not tolerate anything less than buttery smooth like the HTC One
Camera: If the rear camera is a complete waste like the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 camera.
Bad Battery life: I assume based on battery size and slower processor that this thing will have admirable battery life, but you never know
Quiet Speakers: This one is 50/50. If the external speaker(s) suck big time then I won't buy. But if it's at least as good as the iPhone5 then I will hold nothing against it.
Low Storage: I haven't read everything there is to know about it yet but this thing needs to have 32gb storage minimum, whether it's internal or achieved by an SD card, I don't care. It just needs to happen. I'm sitting at 4gb remaining as it is with my silver HTC One, lol.
Bad Screen: Here's the major kicker. I've read the rumors that the X will have 312ppi and our One's are rocking an incredible 468ppi. That's normally an indication of how great the screen will be in real life. If the screen looks obviously worse, then I'm going to just grab the Verizon HTC One and call it a day.
Feel free to add any other things that would make or break your decision between these phones. All the while keeping in mind that the X is a few hundred dollars cheaper.
You know as much as we do, why compare.
Keep in mind the One is also likely 2x the cost of the X, if the rumors hold true - so hopefully the One is better in most of those categories.
My opinion is this, it won't sound as good as the One due to the boomsound speakers, but I could live without them.
Same with PPI of over 450, there's basically zero difference over 300, so again, a wash for me.
Honestly, if the bootloader is unlocked and the battery is decent (better than the One), I'll probably switch to the X.
I hear the software optimizations are awesome on it as well.
I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.
"Who wants to be a fireman?"
Why not add that to your ridiculous poll?
lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:
killman2659 said:
lol it is $200 on contract for AT&T (probably similar for Verizon). You can just get the One for the same price :laugh:
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Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,
Syn Ack said:
Yeah that just sealed the deal for me. What a flop. Looks like a blue One will be it,
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And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive
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And i think i read that the 32 gb will be AT&T exclusive
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As will the customizations.
I really had high hopes for this thing.
Hyped product is hyped.
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Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel
Man. And here I thought it would be a play device that would replace the nexus 4. Guess not. Although the notification system and the google now thing is pretty cool. I want that on my One.
Edit: I guess it will be released as a dev/unlocked device, but doubt the price would be anywhere near $300 if it's contract price is $250.
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Boo, motorola dropped the ball from the sounds of it.
Definitely no reason to get it over the One, IMO. (Unless you really want to talk to your phone when it sleeps :angel
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Agreed
Honestly, an HTC One Mini sounds better than Moto X.
What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.
Dual core vs quad core you decide.
IMO this is a huge mistake from Moto.
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What's hilarious is Motorola Mobility (a company owned by Google) won't be shipping the X with Android 4.3. Fragmentation is so bad on the Android platform that even a cell phone manufacturer owned by Google itself can't even get the latest version of Android on its own phones. I'm sure the US cell phone carriers are responsible, since it's coming out on all 4 major carriers. I'm not complaining or anything (4.3 is a relatively minor upgrade), I just think it's funny.
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I agree that it is stupid that this phone doesn't ship with 4.3. You would think Motorola would've been the first company to receive an early final build of 4.3. IMO if anyone wants this phone just wait until they release the Google Play version of it (if it doesn't have 4.3 then that would be pathetic)
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I have waited months for the HTC One to come to Verizon I will not to turn back now. But really Moto X is a mid range phone, I want the best.
Too be honest, I am a little conflicted
Motorola should be commended for allowing customization on their phones (even if its just aesthetics). In my opinion every company should do this.
The specification are considered mid-range, for specification buffs this is disconcerning (and most of us here are spec buffs) but my question how much does it matter? My brothers Nexus 4 runs just as smooth as my HTC One and it has a slower processor. Dual Core vs. Quad Core, how many apps actually use all the cores?
720p vs. 1080p this will depend on if you can tell the difference. This is what I tell people when they compare screens, if you can't tell the difference there is no point of spending that extra money. The 720p def will save battery and allow the phone to run faster (less resources diverted to run the 1080p screen)
Active Display and Touchless Control do add unique functionality. Touchless Control will be really useful when driving. Active Display is definitely a good way to handle notifications and may increase battery life.
Price being the same gives the HTC One a huge advantage though. If the unlocked version is around the same price as the Nexus 4 then it could be worth it. But its somewhat unlikely since its made in the US (our minimum wage is $7.50 an hour while the workers in China usually get $1.50 an hour. HUGE difference here)
Though I feel Motorola is heading in the right direction. If they add options to customize CPU, RAM, Screen...etc. (which they can definitely do with their new Texas factory) or even options for different material panels (I know they are prototyping wooden backs at the moment) this will go somewhere. Price is the biggest problem right now and to be honest I'm not sure how they will be able to solve it.
I love the X, at the price point though I'd rather buy the One.
I think a lot of people feel the same way, but I certainly hope it succeeds anyway.
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I personally don't see a reason to consider the X if the One is within your budget. Sure the X may be better bang for the buck but I wouldn't settle for decent when I can afford great.
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Who will stay with Moto after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?

My last two phones have been Motorola. Functionally speaking they are pretty good and my Maxx has been the most solid phone I have owned. There is a fly in the ointment though. The back cover on multiple phones which have been replaced all creak and squeak after a few months of ownership.
For this reason I am sitting tight until the next ultimate handset comes out that can functionally one-up this phone. One that is built solid but light and has the big battery or super efficient tech to go for days like the Maxx does.
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I too have a "creaking" back cover...specifically up by the power button/volume rocker...
That being said...I was always a big Moto fan..and then switched because I HAD to have the Galaxy S3 when it dropped...and that was the WORST cell phone related mistake of my life..
I couldn't wait to dump that thing and get back to Moto...I just hope that they decide to continue the Droid line along with the X line...
I am almost 100% sure that my next phone will be a Motorola...
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Droid 2, Droid 4, Droid MAXX. They've all been tanks. I had two Droid 4s that both got wet and they both pulled through until months later... Hardware wise and build quality wise I have no complaints.
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I have had several Motorolas: the droid 1 a855, Droid Razr Maxx, and now the Droid Maxx. I loved the root-ability of the first two, although the Droid Razr Maxx was a beeatch. Now that I'm on the latest droid Maxx, it really sucks that it can't be rooted, at least since that chinese guy got caught, and I'm stuck with a slower-than-it-should-be device, which I cannot customize. I will only stick with Motorola if they don't lock the bootloader on the next one, but I doubt that will happen. Looks like I will get a nexus next.
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Moto for life...
It's way too early for me to tell. I'll see what's available at upgrade time and decide then. This phone will be great until then.
I've had over a dozen Moto phones starting with the original brick and almost every flagship phone since then. I've strayed a couple times in the last 20 years and quickly came back.
I'll stay with my flagship Moto Dev's unless Lenovo messes with the built like a tank phones that we have enjoyed. If I can't drop it in a pool or river(true stories), dry it out and use it the next day, I don't want it lol.
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I just want to get out from under Verizon. That being said the functionality of these phones is awesome. So unless Google uses these new features in the next Nexus i'm jumping to the new Moto X on AT&T or the One from One plus.
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I'm not expecting to stick with Motorola, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I've been relatively happy with my Maxx- battery life has been far better than any other phone I've had (particularly coming from a Galaxy Nexus), which is really what drove me to the Maxx instead of the HTC One.
It seems like battery life of other phones is improving, taking away the primary distinguishing factor that brought me to Motorola. I haven't been completely happy with the performance of some apps on the Maxx, and the screen resolution could use a bump, so I'm going to prioritize those things a little higher next time around.
I'm really interested in seeing what happens with the Android Silver program. It would be tough for me to move off Verizon. Assuming Verizon participates in Android Silver, that's probably the closest thing Verizon users will get to a Nexus-like experience.
There is a new phone out every other week....
...from some company or other. So there is no way to tell what will be the best price vs performance choice a year and a half from now when my contract expires again.
I have to say thought that even though I have had root on previous Android Phones (Droid 1 and Droid 3) I don't really miss it on my Max. The biggest reason I wanted it on previous phones was to get rid of all the crap that I never used. But with the Maxx it seems like there is 1. less crap to begin with and 2. A lot of it can be disabled (including a lot of the verizon stuff) using the regular android settings menu. So I'm not particularly missing root on this phone.
On my Droid 1, late in its life I did start messing with custom roms just for fun. Funny thing is that I still have that Droid 1 sitting here on my desk running Cyanogen Mod 7.2 (think its .2 - don't remember for sure). It doesnt have cellular access anymore but it still works around the house as a WiFi only device.
PS: I was not sorry to see the Droid 3 go away. That one never lived up to my hopes for it. I liked the form factor and I do sometimes miss the physical keyboard but the CPU always seemed slow and I almost immediately regretted getting a 3G device rather than holding out a bit longer for a 4G phone.
I am very impressed with my Maxx, even today. I don't trust Verizon, and am leery of Lenovo. I want to continue with this company's awesome path that started with Google's purchase, but I am not sure that Lenovo will allow that. I am also disappointed that thanks to Verizon I am still running 4.4.0.
If they release a 64gb Moto whatever with a super battery, and the quality stays the same, I will stick with them barring further course changes for the company strategy.
My last 2 smartphones have been Motorola Droids and I love both of them. Unless in the future they remove the things I love about the phone (NFC, Qi Charging, Awesome Battery) I don't see myself using a different brand.
When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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I think I'll stick with Moto. My next device won't be a Droid though. The successor to the Moto X sounds pretty good.
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When using other phones in the store, they just don't do it for me. I do love the Android experience on this latest phone.
I am ready to leave Verizon because of their scheming ways.
In the store moments ago the sales reps are telling a customer that his only option to get a new phone is to give up unlimited data or buy outright. Did not mention device payment plan. Shysters.
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...or at least how I did it. Don't get your phone at the Verizon Store. Order it online from Verizon (not from Amazon, wirefly, ect or any other third party - direct from Verizon). Along the way choose the option to "keep my existing plan". It let me keep my unlimited data plan that's been grandfathered for me ever since my first smart phone way back when (was a Samsung i760 Windows Mobile if anyone cares). I chose to "pick up in store" even though I had ordered on line. They guys at the store couldn't believe I still had unlimited data. They said they thought that couldn't be done.
I will stay with my Droid Mini. It has the best combination of size, power, apps, and now with it able to utilize the XLTE speeds makes it even better. I am just not that interested in getting a phone that I have to carry in hand vice in my pocket because every phone out now is 5" plus. I swear most newer phones are nearing the size of my Nexus 7 LOL.
I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
Einsteindks said:
I may jump ship if one came out with either 64Gb or SD card slot.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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The Moto E has an SD card slot and the newer release of the Moto G is getting one too. I don't know if this is an indication that Moto is changing its philosophy with the Lenovo merger (Google doesn't like SD Cards) or just an acknowledgement that these "lesser phones" don't have enough on board storage to be useful without one. The E for example has only 4 GB storage and according to the article I read, has only 2.2 GB left for the user after the OS and system apps are installed.
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I would lean towards the latter and it being a cost saving move.
These are Verizon phones
The title lists only the Droid series - Ultra/ Mini and Maxx.
The 'real' Motorola phones are the X, G and E for now.
So, question should be rephrased to "Who will stay with Verizon after the Ultra/Maxx/Mini?"
I am not in the US and using the Droid Maxx. My earlier phone - Motorola Defy - is still working after 3 years and several CM installs.
The hardware is pretty strong on that one and the build quality is good. The phone got wet several times in the rain and there have been no permanent issues due to water.
I cannot say the same for the Droid Maxx. It would be risking too much for me (I paid twice the amount to acquire a Droid Maxx, to what I paid to get a Defy three years ago.)
Hence I have put it into an Otterbox Defender series case to protect the phone since one fall on the floor will kill the phone.
The build quality of Droid Maxx is just like any other phone in the market perhaps.
But there are positives for sure.
1. The LCD has no bleeding, which I feel speaks of good quality.
2. The speaker has good volume and great quality (for music lovers)
3. The battery is awesome. For my limited use, it easily goes to the end of third day for me.
The Otterbox Defender adds a lot of bulk and the inbuilt screen protector reduces the touch sensitivity significantly (especially the virtual buttons).
But since I wish to use the phone for three more years, I think this is the price I have to pay for the beast.
I also bought a used Razr HD Maxx XT926 for my dad last year. The phone is really nice (and the 4.4.2 update is like the icing on the cake).
Luckily I have bootloader unlocked on that one, so I can retain control for a long time.

Lollipop!!!

So its official new version is Lollipop. New nexus 6 is what was leaked (Shamu).
@Topsnake? We getting these? I mean you said it'll be available for Verizon right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...agon-805-3gb-ram-3200mah-battery-13mp-camera/
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With the Droid Turbo having a 21mp camera, is 13mp enough?
Will the Nexus have Active Notifications and the full suite of Voice actions?
It looks to be a heck of a phone.
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With the Droid Turbo having a 21mp camera, is 13mp enough?
Will the Nexus have Active Notifications and the full suite of Voice actions?
It looks to be a heck of a phone.
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It will be enough for me. It'll keep the cost down (hopefully.) I hope that it has active notifications. I'm quite found of that feature. Could live without it if need be. I'm thinking more along the lines of rooting and bootloader unlocking. Likely that won't be possible with the Turbo. If I'm paying outright for a phone it's not gonna be ~$700 and locked down like Fort Knox!
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Caseyk621 said:
It will be enough for me. It'll keep the cost down (hopefully.) I hope that it has active notifications. I'm quite found of that feature. Could live without it if need be. I'm thinking more along the lines of rooting and bootloader unlocking. Likely that won't be possible with the Turbo. If I'm paying outright for a phone it's not gonna be ~$700 and locked down like Fort Knox!
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Its officially coming to VZW which is unheard of. I think even though the nexus has a slightly smaller battery, the unlockable BL is enough to boost it over the Turbo.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...-t-mobile-sprint-and-us-cellular-in-november/
The 64gb option is nice. I also prefer the Nexus' shape to the Turbo. Droid Turbo will probably be $700 like the Maxx was.
If there was a way to get the moto stuff on the nexus, ie. Touchless and active display, then I'm in, since it is unlocked. If the Turbo can be unlocked then that is the one I go for since I still have an upgrade available. Put this Droid Maxx on eBay because the wife likes her OG Moto X more. That is months down the road, probably something to consider in 6 months when the dust settles. Hopefully by then xposed will run on art and somebody found a way to unlock the bootloader. Until then, this Droid Maxx is a beast of a phone and I'll continue to lurk in the 2014 Moto X forums and secretly laugh at their locked bootloader and a joke for battery life. 3500 mAH baby!!!!
Them can unlock the same as us with the Chinese guy
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Johnny Wong said:
If there was a way to get the moto stuff on the nexus, ie. Touchless and active display, then I'm in, since it is unlocked. If the Turbo can be unlocked then that is the one I go for since I still have an upgrade available. Put this Droid Maxx on eBay because the wife likes her OG Moto X more. That is months down the road, probably something to consider in 6 months when the dust settles. Hopefully by then xposed will run on art and somebody found a way to unlock the bootloader. Until then, this Droid Maxx is a beast of a phone and I'll continue to lurk in the 2014 Moto X forums and secretly laugh at their locked bootloader and a joke for battery life. 3500 mAH baby!!!!
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Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Caseyk621 said:
Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Awesome! Thank you
Caseyk621 said:
Here you go!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
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Very nice. Looks like it will be part of Lollipop. Wonder if they ripped off Motorola's twist to launch camera feature before handing the company over to Lenovo also.
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Considering the One X?

1. What do you currently own and why it might be time for a change?
2. What else have you considered?
3. Why the One X?
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I'll kick it off.
Current phone HTC One M7. Loved the build quality but my speakers have seen better days (crackling). No more support.
Considered the Nexus 6p, similar build to m7 but having held one it's too darn big (thumb pilot here). 5x plastic no thanks.
The One X looks the part and is identical in size to the m7. I'm still in contract so the price is appealing. But is it an upgrade?
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Main concerns:
Battery is smaller than OPO. Wifi doesn't support AC which isn't th3e biggest deal as it has N support.
Band 17 in USA. Other people mentioned that Operating Band 4 is still 1700mhz so this may work on ATT.
Main issue for me is the lack of nfc, seems like One Plus thinks they can ignore it...
mitchst2 said:
I'll kick it off.
Current phone HTC One M7. Loved the build quality but my speakers have seen better days (crackling). No more support.
Considered the Nexus 6p, similar build to m7 but having held one it's too darn big (thumb pilot here). 5x plastic no thanks.
The One X looks the part and is identical in size to the m7. I'm still in contract so the price is appealing. But is it an upgrade?
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Same here with the m7.
A 5" phone is my sweet spot. The design is nice. The processor is a clear upgrade to the 600. It has a gig more ram. The storage is lacking, but it does support sd cards. My last phone with sd support ended with a permanent loop trying to load/scan the card... So I'm wary of this. According to Pei, oxygen OS is getting a 6.0 update... He just didn't say when. Also, oxygen has some of its own homegrown 6.0 fearures (doze mode, permissions, etc.). How good they are, I don't know.
I'm feeling very intrigued by this phone. The invite system and faq page saying it takes weeks to fill an order once places has me second guessing.
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mrdoug said:
Same here with the m7.
A 5" phone is my sweet spot. The design is nice. The processor is a clear upgrade to the 600. It has a gig more ram. The storage is lacking, but it does support sd cards. My last phone with sd support ended with a permanent loop trying to load/scan the card... So I'm wary of this. According to Pei, oxygen OS is getting a 6.0 update... He just didn't say when. Also, oxygen has some of its own homegrown 6.0 fearures (doze mode, permissions, etc.). How good they are, I don't know.
I'm feeling very intrigued by this phone. The invite system and faq page saying it takes weeks to fill an order once places has me second guessing.
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Quality, price and size has me interested. Particularly the size, bigger screen but same size overall. Thought I had to have the 6p but a mate got one and I'm not interested in a phone that needs two hands to use comfortably.
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Don't buy the one plus x. After having issues with my oneplus one and two, I'm done with one plus as a whole!
The only good thing with the x is they went with the 801 instead of the mediatek crap as the rumors had said.
903tex said:
Don't buy the one plus x. After having issues with my oneplus one and two, I'm done with one plus as a whole!
The only good thing with the x is they went with the 801 instead of the mediatek crap as the rumors had said.
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What sort of issues? Are they commonplace?
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ming3r said:
Main concerns:
Battery is smaller than OPO. Wifi doesn't support AC which isn't th3e biggest deal as it has N support.
Band 17 in USA. Other people mentioned that Operating Band 4 is still 1700mhz so this may work on ATT.
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Yikes. I use att in the US. I need to double check on this before I pull the trigger and order (or more so, get in line to order).
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Yeah I'm on cricket. Their site lists some bands but I'm waiting on clarification.
I've got the opo for now so no hurry on my end, I'll be waiting for reviews
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ming3r said:
Yeah I'm on cricket. Their site lists some bands but I'm waiting on clarification.
I've got the opo for now so no hurry on my end, I'll be waiting for reviews
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What oppo phones work in the US on our bands?
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The us or international versions of opo and opt. X works with a chunk of them but looks like its missing 12 and 17 that tmo and att use but they each have like 3-4 that they use.
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mitchst2 said:
What sort of issues? Are they commonplace?
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Oneplus one had yellow screen, then developed touchscreen issues. They customer service (lack of) is horrible.
Oneplus two had home button issue, overheated issues, and oxygenOS is alpha at best. Lag lag lag.
They are not ready to be a major player in the smartphone world. So if you have any issues(and you probably will) get ready to wait like two months just to get a replacement device. Emailing then and getting one response back a day, sending in pictures, and videos to prove to them your issues, for them then to stop emailing you completely to then get some other rep asking you to do the same thing all over again. That is if you get a invite.
903tex said:
Oneplus one had yellow screen, then developed touchscreen issues. They customer service (lack of) is horrible.
Oneplus two had home button issue, overheated issues, and oxygenOS is alpha at best. Lag lag lag.
They are not ready to be a major player in the smartphone world. So if you have any issues(and you probably will) get ready to wait like two months just to get a replacement device. Emailing then and getting one response back a day, sending in pictures, and videos to prove to them your issues, for them then to stop emailing you completely to then get some other rep asking you to do the same thing all over again. That is if you get a invite.
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Same here. I have not tried the OnePlus Two but I had a One and sold it because of the touchscreen issues... :/
Right now I'm looking into buying a phone for my girlfriend though, and the X seems like a good option... Between the X and the Moto G3, which would you choose?
Martins2759 said:
Same here. I have not tried the OnePlus Two but I had a One and sold it because of the touchscreen issues... :/
Right now I'm looking into buying a phone for my girlfriend though, and the X seems like a good option... Between the X and the Moto G3, which would you choose?
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I had a 2gb moto g and I would choice it over the x. Especially with warranty issues if any down the road. While the x has better specs, the g is water resistant, and you can moto maker is depends on where you live(certain countries) battery life is also good on the g, and the screen is nice but the x screen with amoled will pop better but with amoled screen you will most likely have screen burn!!!!
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What sort of issues? Are they commonplace?
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They are a dodgy company in every way.
Customer support nearly non-existent. Terrible quality assurance/control. I'd just stay away altogether, especially now they're using OxygenOS which is basically stock android.. But far worse.
Honestly, it's just one let down after another after another.
I'd sooner go a Xperia Z5 Compact.
1. Currently using my old Nexus 4 after breaking my Moto X 2014.
2. I actually bought the Nexus 5X, but returned it because I didn't like the size.
3. Size and price.
903tex said:
I had a 2gb moto g and I would choice it over the x. Especially with warranty issues if any down the road. While the x has better specs, the g is water resistant, and you can moto maker is depends on where you live(certain countries) battery life is also good on the g, and the screen is nice but the x screen with amoled will pop better but with amoled screen you will most likely have screen burn!!!!
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Yup, it's settled, screw OnePlus. I'm going for the G3
Why do you people come here just to sh!t all over a product? Obvious that several of you aren't buying one, what are you doing here?
I had no issues whatsoever with my Oneplus 1 and enjoyed a pretty robust development community. The phone was just too big for me.
Then I bought a Moto G3, which I like a lot, size is perfect.. but it is a bit laggy and 720p. I keep thinking- if this thing just had an 801 (which is still a completely legit cpu). Bam! Oneplus comes out with this. I'm even surprised at the 3GB's of ram for that price. I'm definitely buying one. Invite's already claimed.
Granted, I heard of the nightmare customer support I luckily never had to contact. I've heard of the touch screen issues, which my +1 never had. I'm not saying the company or the QC is perfect, but for $250 i'm willing to take a chance on a company that has already sold me a solid device.
Bottom line-That size, that price, decent specs, I'm in.
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2. I actually bought the Nexus 5X, but returned it because I didn't like the size.
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That's interesting I was thinking of buying a 5x, but it did look a little bigish to me for just 5.2". I'm glad I waited for this phone.
They could easily try to get $299 out of this phone. The price totally seals the deal for me.
Was, until I found out the 2nd SIM slot is shared with microSD. That means you either have dual SIM without microSD, or single SIM + microSD.

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