I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
Thanks
Haik0 said:
I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
Thanks
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LTE/4G will be a problem
Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.
Haik0 said:
I was planing to ask my friend to get me a Nexus 6p from US and bring it over to Europe and I was wondering if there are different versions of Nexus 6P for US and Europe (with different sets of LTE bands ) ? Will I have a problem of using it with European GSM bands (specifically the LTE/4G) ?
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LTE/4G will be a problem
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Stephen said:
Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.
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This, it's also missing band 20, which is used for 4G networks in the Netherlands and most of mainland Europe as far as I know. Basically a US Nexus 6P won't work on 4G/LTE in Europe.
Nomoi said:
This, it's also missing band 20, which is used for 4G networks in the Netherlands and most of mainland Europe as far as I know. Basically a US Nexus 6P won't work on 4G/LTE in Europe.
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Ahh, ok then :/ That was my shot to get this phone cheaper, it's ridiculous how expensive it is here compared to US .
Thanks for the response.
I know that here in Ireland Vodafone (my carrier) use both band 20 and band 3, with band 3 usage being more recent. I am doing my research at the moment but am hoping that if I get a US Nexus 6P I will be able to use it here with Vodafone LTE on band 3.
Crossing fingers,
M
Where can I find more info on these various nexus 6p variants?
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Agreed, the US version has less bands than the international version. It does not have band 8, which is what most of the UK's 4g network runs on. There are a few exceptions, but most of them work of band 8.
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US Version and International have the same amount of bands just different ones. No one in Europe runs on band 8. UK runs mostly on 3/7/20. So most likely you will get LTE coverage from your carrier unless you're with O2 or Vodaphone since they only support band 20.
US: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/30
International: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/19/20/28
Use an app like LTE Discovery to see what band you're using in your most frequented places.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
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Hi everyone,
Is Google Nexus 4 finally a fully LTE capable phone or not? and is there any official news from Google that they might patch it to not work with LTE anymore?
Thanks
It technically works on one (I think) band that LTE uses, in Canada, but I think that's it. As far as I know it would need some more hardware to be fully supported on all LTE bands.
TLDR; for realistic purposes, no
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It technically works on one (I think) band that LTE uses, in Canada, but I think that's it. As far as I know it would need some more hardware to be fully supported on all LTE bands.
TLDR; for realistic purposes, no
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Which band is that? 2100Mhz? and if so then it's fully supported in Canada?! ??? Of course all LTE bands are not supported by any phones out there because of differences in USA, Canada, Japan, and Europe...
It's confusing because some news say that LTE antenna is needed and more hardware components so I don't understand why one of the bands work when hardware components are missing. Of course, it is not LTE when only the name LTE shows beside the signal and speed is not great.
I think it would be best if someone can post their speeds on Rogers, Bell, Fido, and Telus and let us know if LTE really works.
Well that thread already exists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007943
It only works on LTE band 4 and Google has already said they cannot update the phone to work on the rest of the LTE bands as the hardware is not in the phone. Band 4 is there by default in the LTE chip.
What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
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torontobc said:
What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
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Yes it works on Rogers LTE in Canada..
Google better not try to "disable", but glad someone brought that to my attention as I will be checking before i update anything
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What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws
So i am considering buying this phone, but I have only 1 concern about lte on this website: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_230088.html it says that 4f bands are only:FDD-LTE 1800/2100/2600MHz, so will it work in Canada?? I checked http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/ and It only compatable with 2100, no 1700 is it fine if I only have 1?
Help please!!!
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Any canadians??
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
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Carriers use more than 1 band cause the don't have full coverage with only 1 so sometimes you should have LTE coverage and sometimes don't , I'm in the same dilemma the phone is really good but not having the LTE bands used in US is a deal breaker, I'm waiting to October cause its supposed to be officially released to the US and maybe they'll release a revised version with the LTE bands used here.
Breadcrust said:
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
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Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
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Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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Can you check it? Three use 1800 band and have launched their 800 band recently(not wide spread at the moment) which would improve their indoor 4G coverage, EE already use 800/1800 bands,
I think you can probably check in the service menu.
Mine hasn't come yet, I got scammed on zukphone.cc by a PayPal account called [email protected]. PayPal are investigating but my Dad has a OnePlus One and he has 4G on Three so I can only assume it will work.
Any Canadians bought it???
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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It does.
Check on willmyphonework.net
mcgangsta said:
Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
Bump to see if anyone has got it working in canada and with which company.
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (...) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Seriously dude, it's on the same page even.
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FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Why won't it work on Telus/Koodo? I checked the bands and it has the 3g bands that work on Telus/Koodo.
Hello!
I've bought a Chinese version of OP2 and it seems to be doesn't have Band 20 LTE support (800 MHz). :crying:
And I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the band like for OPO?
That's not known yet, but I've got my doubts.
I was scared as you after see that I bought the chinese version which doesn't have the 800mhz; but I checked on this site if my phone will work on the LTE of my carrier:
http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Fortunately it works. The real problem is that the chinese version, having only one IMEI, doesn't allow the use of dual sim outside of the China.
Hope your LTE works!
Kito92 said:
I was scared as you after see that I bought the chinese version which doesn't have the 800mhz; but I checked on this site if my phone will work on the LTE of my carrier:
http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Fortunately it works. The real problem is that the chinese version, having only one IMEI, doesn't allow the use of dual sim outside of the China.
Hope your LTE works!
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That's not true regarding the dual Sim, it works in standby mode and can be used when primary Sim is not in use (I know this as I have the Chinese version of the handset and I am using 2 Sim cards).
Swatto86 said:
That's not true regarding the dual Sim, it works in standby mode and can be used when primary Sim is not in use (I know this as I have the Chinese version of the handset and I am using 2 Sim cards).
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Yeah can confirm this is the same in Australia.
Yes I have LTE, I've checked before buying, but It still one of the Bands I would like to have (it works well inside the buildings).
And yes, bouth SIMs work in dual standby mode.
Has anyone tried using the same guide used in OnePlus One?
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Has anyone tried using the same guide used in OnePlus One?
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My phone's going to be delivered tomorrow and I'm going to try it. I'll report back and letb you know.
@josh598208 so how did it go lol
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@josh598208 so how did it go lol
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I am also interested in knowing that
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me too! I've also bought a chinese version of OP2 and I wanted to unlock band 20.
Also subscribing to the thread! I'm going another way: I have the American version and want to use it in Europe (Poland in particular, so I need band 3).
Has anyone tried the unlocking guides on OP2? Is it only a software issue or do the modems actually differ?
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I haven't gotten them unlocked. I tried the opo method, denied. I'm using it on hspa+ and really can't tell any difference from LTE. Just my opinion.
quezak said:
Also subscribing to the thread! I'm going another way: I have the American version and want to use it in Europe (Poland in particular, so I need band 3).
Has anyone tried the unlocking guides on OP2? Is it only a software issue or do the modems actually differ?
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Hello quezak,
I am facing the similar issue. My order is not arrived yet. Is it possible to load EU based ROM on US base OP2?
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me too need the band 3 work on my USA version
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I was in hurry cause there was 2 hours left on my invite
I bought the us version then after I receive it I note that I need the global version and they send the us one
so do you think there well be a solution or i should return it
HELP ME PLEAS
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Hello quezak,
I am facing the similar issue. My order is not arrived yet. Is it possible to load EU based ROM on US base OP2?
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The problem is modem/Hardware level changing rom won't work
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Certainly is important.
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I like use the band 800 in México LTE.
One person respond my question and the process to ONO no function.
Do you have information about other team/member working in this topic?
I followed the same procedure as oneplus two, but stuck on drivers installation.
Would be glad to have a solution on this.
I really need this I have messed up... I had to use a post forwarding service so I found a US one and I live in norway and got the US model.. I have asked if I can trade it for a EU one but they can't because of their policies.. Anyone know what band I need for it to work on LTE in Norway?
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I really need this I have messed up... I had to use a post forwarding service so I found a US one and I live in norway and got the US model.. I have asked if I can trade it for a EU one but they can't because of their policies.. Anyone know what band I need for it to work on LTE in Norway?
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I think you can find something interesting reading information below:
With the OnePlus 2, we’ve taken some extra steps to ensure that our device works flawlessly in all the markets we support. A crucial component (no pun intended) is bands support. As you may be aware, LTE bands across the world differ significantly for various reasons (let’s talk about why that is some other time) and certain hardware restrictions make it so that you can only support so many bands in one device.
Thus, there is a trade-off between having all the bands and manufacturing complexity - the more bands you want to support, the more region-specific SKUs you have to create. We opted to make two different versions for two different regions - one EU/India, and one that we call North America. These are both OnePlus Global phones; they ship with Oxygen OS and the proper band support for your region. Besides those, there’s also the Chinese version that ships with Hydrogen OS and Chinese LTE support - this one is not available on oneplus.net (and is almost certainly the version you will get if you buy from anywhere else).
Here’s a breakdown of the differences (for EU/NA, bands in bold only available on that version):
Note that compatibility here refers to LTE, the fastest network currently available. The slower 2G/3G GSM frequencies (below referred to as GSM and WCDMA) are less fragmented and you should be able to get data almost worldwide with the included 2&3G bands regardless of the version. Use http://www.willmyphonework.net/ for easy reference.
EU/Asia
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE: Bands 38/40/41
3 and 20 are used almost all over Europe, but not at all in North America. Band 8, although available in both versions, is used in Europe and India but is seeing increasing adoption worldwide.
North America
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17
For NA, the removal of bands 3 & 20 allows us to add all the GSM bands you’ll need.
China
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: 1/2/5/8
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
TDD-LTE: 38/39/40/41
FDD-LTE: 1/3/7
The Chinese version will have very limited 4G compatibility in Europe and North America. More importantly, it only has one IMEI meaning you will not have dual-SIM capability outside of China. If you like having dual SIMs, do not buy the Chinese version.
Original thread is here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-2-regional-versions-explained.338780/
Regards
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Here is procedures to unlock LTE bands in Xiaomi Mi Note Pro. Both mobiles (Xioami and OP2) built same processor so maybe this method is for us. I did not tried it yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
hi all, I have just purchased the awesome oneplus 2 locally BUT didn't realise that it is the Chinese model until i got home.
Unfortunately I am with Vodafone UK and 4G doesn't seem to work, so i was hoping someone had an idea on what i can do with regards to this?
Would flashing a radio help? Thanks in advance
skills10 said:
hi all, I have just purchased the awesome oneplus 2 locally BUT didn't realise that it is the Chinese model until i got home.
Unfortunately I am with Vodafone UK and 4G doesn't seem to work, so i was hoping someone had an idea on what i can do with regards to this?
Would flashing a radio help? Thanks in advance
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Vodafone UK uses Band 20 & Band 7 for LTE & the Chinese OP2 (A2001) only has Bands 1, 3 & 7 enabled.
So, if you're not in a Band 7 area (very limited ATM), you won't be able to use LTE.
Flashing a radio won't help as the three different models have different bands enabled in hardware.
Only the European/Asian version (A2003) has Band 20 enabled.
Ref:
EU/Asia (A2003)
LTE: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
North America (A2005)
LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17
China (A2001)
LTE: 1/3/7
ah ok thanks for the reply mate I appreciate it, looks like im either stuck with the device on 3G until band 7 is rolled out or see if anyone local wants to swap ha
Does anyone have experience taking the Verizon Galaxy S7 Edge overseas? Or know what international frequency bands it supports?
I'll be traveling soon to Europe (France, Switzerland, Germany). Curious if I'll be able to get LTE with local carriers there.
Thanks!
Look at product>specifications here
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-G935VZKAVZW
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echelon333 said:
Does anyone have experience taking the Verizon Galaxy S7 Edge overseas? Or know what international frequency bands it supports?
I'll be traveling soon to Europe (France, Switzerland, Germany). Curious if I'll be able to get LTE with local carriers there.
Thanks!
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Im currently in London from Arizona and service sucks... if I am not on a WiFi the phone wont ring... and even tho it says 4G LTE my data is non existent... it switches back and forth all the time from EE to E UK to Searching... and it drains the battery like crazy... hope you have better luck in German, France and die Schweitz...
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Im currently in London from Arizona and service sucks... if I am not on a WiFi the phone wont ring... and even tho it says 4G LTE my data is non existent... it switches back and forth all the time from EE to E UK to Searching... and it drains the battery like crazy... hope you have better luck in German, France and die Schweitz...
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Dumb suggestions but:
Make sure your in global mode in settings > mobile networks > network mode.
Make sure your APN is correct for your SIM (I assume your using a local Sim).
Make sure to turn off advanced calling so the phone isn't stuck to stay on LTE during calls.
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Global LTE band chart for the S7 Edge
_Dennis_ said:
Look at product>specifications here
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-G935VZKAVZW
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Thanks! I did some digging and found and charted the specs for the Verizon, AT&T, and France S7 Edge models. You can see the details in the attached Excel spreadsheet. Hope this is helpful for you guys planning a trip or traveling. Got the French specs from the Samsung France website.
The Verizon model is missing a few LTE bands that the French model has: 1, 12, 17, 25, 26, 28
I found this detailed LTE chart for France. Looks France mainly uses 3, 7, 20, and 28 -- so the Verizon model covers three of the four.
There's also this global LTE band chart, and this LTE chart for Europe.
Quick LTE band primer based on what I've learned:
LTE bands all have a number and a corresponding frequency. This list seems standardized worldwide. So for example band 1 is 2100, band 2 is 1900. In my Excel those are represented as B1(2100) and B2(1900). On the different web pages I link to, sometimes they refer to the bands just by number, and sometimes just by frequency, and sometimes both. But be careful, there are multiple bands with the same frequency number, but they are not the same -- for example both band 2 and band 25 are 1900.
I hope this helps others with your travels!
Anyone who has used the S7 in other countries (either Verizon SIM or a local carrier SIM) please do share your experience!
P.S. For those of you like me who have a spouse with an iPhone (ugh), Apple has a helpful chart of their LTE compatibility.