Marshmellow's comming and no official Lollipop in sight... - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

...Thank you Samsung now I know which manifacturer never to buy again!

Please use spell check.
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Mine updated a week or so ago...
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detrexer said:
...Thank you Samsung now I know which manifacturer never to buy again!
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True. Samsung sucks on updates.
Having said that, the only thing I miss from lollipop on my tablet is the smart clip feature. Almost everything else is available through third party app, root and Xposed. It's still one of the greatest tablets on the market. Which is the good thing about Samsung - the hardware is majorly future proof.
I wish they'd update the spen and snote features independent of system updates. Would make life so much easier.

detrexer said:
...Thank you Samsung now I know which manifacturer never to buy again!
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Do we really need another thread on this?

If you are unsatisfied, then say something to them. Doing so on here won't help anyone. I have lollipop on my 607T and wish I never downloaded it, as I didn't have issues with the Bluetooth audio skipping. Lollipop may be a better OS overall, but it still comes with bugs even though it is 5.1.1
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Entirely agree with op.. In fact I struggle to see a future for me with android now. Even friends family with nexii are struggling
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Samsung is good in hardware things, but in firmware support and updates, myass.

planetf1 said:
Entirely agree with op.. In fact I struggle to see a future for me with android now. Even friends family with nexii are struggling
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nexus (singular), nexi (plural)

Samsung has way too many devices out and therefore does only support the ones that have the biggest impact. Though I like to see at least 5.1.1 officially supported I feel it is wishful thinking and also made me turn my back on Samsung all together and I will enjoy the rest of it's life with a community ROM. (Although I did notice the developer just announcing he is stopping). It does run fine with 4 4.2 as well so 18 more months and I will allow myself a better supported tablet

I love this tablet, it is great in pretty much every aspect, except internal memory. I wished it could've been available in 64 and 128 GB variants, but it is what it is.
UPDATES though is the point where Samsung sucks. I'm running Marshmallow already on my Nexus 7 tablet (it's great by the way, smoother and faster than Lollipop) and only about to get Lollipop on this tablet. What the F... Samsung?!
I think it would be great to get Marshmallow to this tablet but I have a gut feeling that it is never going to happen

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I love this tablet, it is great in pretty much every aspect, except internal memory. I wished it could've been available in 64 and 128 GB variants, but it is what it is.
UPDATES though is the point where Samsung sucks. I'm running Marshmallow already on my Nexus 7 tablet (it's great by the way, smoother and faster than Lollipop) and only about to get Lollipop on this tablet. What the F... Samsung?!
I think it would be great to get Marshmallow to this tablet but I have a gut feeling that it is never going to happen
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Yes it will, when pigs fly square circles around my living room....
But seriously, this tablet is now 2 years old(close enough), the agreement was to keep updated for 18 months... Be thankful we got 5.1.1 and not the less desirable 5.0 with its memory leaks and other problems...

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[RUMORS] Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2

Sammobile:
Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2 update, due to “adjustment problems with TouchWiz”
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/30...ate-due-to-adjustment-problems-with-touchwiz/
Bad news for all of us... :crying: :crying: :crying:
Samsung Touchwiz crap
Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
Good said Modej,
I also using AOKP but with some touchwiz features 1. Because I like it touchwiz launcher.
And Second I want in AOKP that be another lockscreen but I think it's not possible :/
We only need egl blobs and kernel source from GS3 4.3 to run CM10.2 well (not stable but pretty decent like CM10.1).
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Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
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Agree and disagree with your comment. 100% agree with the smoothness part but sammy 4.1.2 roms with a good stock kernel offer the best battery life (Up to 7hrs screen on time, my record was 6 hrs screen-on time spread over about 1 day)
What a lame excuse for not updating.
Sincerely shame on you Samsung.
I think it's not a surprise. Sammy couldn't give us usable exynos drivers for oasp. So they probably couldn't figure it out themselves. Looks bad anyway. ..
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cm is way btr than sammy roms..
Stupid excuses from Samsung...but why the S2+ can get 4.2.2. .really stupid
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CM is not a solution as it is really buggy. Playing games is not even possible
Also it is laggy bcs of its own made drivers. Animation stutters in cm really frustrate me.
Battery life is also another problem
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Unfortunately, based on what other brands are doing, we cannot blame so much Samsung. We got last official update few weeks ago for a device which is in the market from beginning of 2011. Of course who bought the device one year after it was in the market (like me!) got a better price but having more or less one year of software support and counting mostly on XDA community to keep the device alive.
We should blame who has promised 18 months of updates but failed to keep their promises (I know HTC for example).
Most of the cases there are not technical reasons not updating devices but just marketing. I would be happy having 24 months as minimum software support.
Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
deedii said:
Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
mauriicio21 said:
I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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4.3 seems a little far fetched. ....considering the aging of our device .I doubt Samsung will push any further updates for us ...
And its so silly. They said that s2+ will get the update bcuz it has more power than S2 (seems lik a marketing strategy 2 me)...
On tge the latest report it says Samsung owns 47% of all android devices.i think out of those 30% represents S2, S3 & S4 .
S2 still has a very large scale of users , its a shame Samsung is leaving us in the dark..
Well I guess its time to move on to S3 , S4 , N4 or H One ...
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But dont blame the Manufacturers too much
Everyone should think back to the Times where Android wasnt there
Symbian times for Example... Updates came pretty Slow BUT they came and where everytime pretty Bugfree and with Really Good Performance and all that
The Update Floods on the Android OS doesnt makes it any Easyer for the Manufacturers nor the Devs i think
Google makes everything very Complicated for everyone,and i am sure that all Manufacturers first gonna bring out the newest versions to the newest Phones
Why ...Pfff Because they Have to keep The NEW things more up to date then the Old .
Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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I think what samsung should instead do is to give the best support for those who paid more for the premium Galaxy S line and note line, otherwise their image will be no better than their mid range and budget phones line.
It's their own fault since the beginning actually. Their flagships so far is S, S2, S3, S4, Note 1 and Note 2. However, each flagship got so many variants. For example, the S4 has 14 variants including the zoom and active according to wikipedia.
Samsung might be able to convince people to buy their product. However, I'm afraid they can't convince people to buy their product for the second time.
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Not exactly looking forward whether Samsung will push an update for us but they've got a point there. I think Samsung's not particularly concerned about customer satisfaction which means just like the others said that Samsung's likely to update the newer devices that's still in the market to increase their sales.
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Aren't you afraid of not getting the updates in a reasonable amount of time?

I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
That's definitely a concern of mine. Sony is worse than the major Android manufacturers (Motorola, HTC, Samsung, even LG is rolling out its Kitkat update) in terms of updates. One consolation is that Android updates aren't as big or crucial as they used to be since it is a pretty mature OS at this point, but I can't deny that I find Sony's update speed disappointing. I don't think it will stop me from getting the Z2, tho.
You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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I am not afraid.
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Chad_Petree said:
I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
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It s so good If companies support their flagships for OS upgrade But there s no different between Sony or Samsung or ...
currently i m using Note3 on JB 4.3 however 4.4.2 for all variants released from Samsung But it s too slow.
If you want number of OS version you should buy nexus devices. that Google support them ~2 years (like Galaxy Nexus) with fast upgrade and release.
But If u r thinking about more functionality on ur smartphone u have to buy samsung, sony or ...
/*Companies don't think about u who bought a flagship 4-5 months ago.
*they think about who want to upgrade from old phone. so they release high-end phone every 6months to get markets. */
funky0308 said:
You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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What are you really doing here - takes as is or leave it
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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vittogn said:
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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We're on similar situation , I can't stand the awful battery life of the nexus 5 , I don't miss the SD card at all since I have the 32 gb version and that's enough for me, what bothers me too is that the 16:9 photos are 6 MP, I would like 12-13 MP photos, I don't need 20 MP photos but I'm not complaining either Haha
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Some more thoughts on slower updates that might make your mind rest a little easier:
As someone else pointed out, if you take Samsung as an example, faster updates aren't always a good thing. Samsung devices are usually pretty well optimized for the version of Android they ship with, but when they update to a new major version of Android the performance can get substantially worse. I've noticed this with several Samsung devices. So giving a manufacturer the time to make sure everything works well on their hardware is a good thing. Keep in mind brand-new Android releases are often tailored to a subset of Android hardware in the latest Nexus devices, and hardware differences in other devices might take a while to perfect.
Also, new major versions of Android often have bad bugs. Look at Motorola who invested a lot of effort into getting 4.4 on the Moto X very soon after it was released. Unfortunately 4.4 had several major bugs including broken Exchange support! Moto X owners who upgraded were stuck with broken devices until Moto released 4.4.2 months later. So it is also good to wait for at least a couple of point releases before a manufacturer commits to a new version of Android.
Nexus devices don't have these issues because they can just keep releasing new updates quickly, but if a manufacturer's customized Android actually offers valuable improvements (which I think Sony's does) it makes sense to take a little longer.
I still wish Sony were faster, tho
I'm a bit worried. I honestly Sony would concentrate on one flagship per year, like everyone else. I'm on an XZ and am sick of trying to keep up. I'm considering my next phone now, but I can't say if the z2 is a slam dunk now. I do like the sound of the speakers though...
I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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Personally not worried about getting updates late but a bit worried about not getting updates at all after a while & becoming abandoned
I mean Samsung is releasing Kitkat for GS3 which is a device from may 2012, Not sure if it's the same with Sony specially with their two flagship a year strategy
I'm not. If there is not a disturbing bug in Z2, I still use it. If the new feature that roll out from Sony and Google with an update is not necessary and attracting to me,I don't change my phone to other brand.
Who cares what OS version you got? Unless there is a bug or something, I don't care if I ever get any updates. I would even prefer the older version now since they messed up the notification screen.
To be honest, Jellybean is stable enough so that we don't necesarily "need" further updates. I'm "suck" on 4.1.2 on my optimus g and don't really mind at all(And yes, LG is worse at abandoning their flagships). Got kit kat on my nexus 7 and don't really see much difference. I miss the great sony UI though. Still torn between this phone and the z1.
I buy phone - start to see if everything works - root - flash custom rom. Never worries about updates.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ? I understand the importance of an update, but on the other and I think people exaggerate the need for them a lot...
So to answer the question - no, i'm not afraid. Frankly speaking, I don't really care, as long as it won't take a year or so.
Akiainavas said:
And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ?
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A pretty major update in 4.4 for devices with on-screen buttons, like the Xperia series, is "immersive mode" (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...go-truly-full-screen-hide-the-navigation-bar/). There are other nice updates, and maybe that one doesn't interest you, but to me it's a big deal. You never know when Google is going to throw a great new feature like that in.
augie7107 said:
I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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What? Worse than Samsung?
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Lollipop Android 5.0

Lollipop Android 5.0 will come for note 3? Note 2 received kitkat in march/April similarly Note 3 will get Lollipop in March?April? whats u guys opinion?
jdomadia said:
Lollipop Android 5.0 will come for note 3? Note 2 received kitkat in march/April similarly Note 3 will get Lollipop in March?April? whats u guys opinion?
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I must be outdated.
I thought the name was key lime pie? or something pie like that?
but it will be good if we can have it by then.
:good:
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Could even be something like banana pie or even cream pie
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It is alphabetically named.
E for éclair
F for froyo(frozen yoghurt)
G for ginger bread
H for honeycomb
I for ice cream sandwich
J for jellybean
K for KitKat
and all are named after desserts
So now the alphabet is L...
So it could be any dessert starting with L
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not much exited
the update is just like few bugs solved and even more security staff not for your privacy no , its just more things for Knox crap and things makes you pissed off from them and coming to xda to deal with its - also there update took time after Google released it don't expect the new ui or even s5 feature this is the way Samsung update there phones - really you cant enjoy samsung phone more than a year or two .
I wonder what could be when is the S time???
Sweet sh*t...
Stinking strawberry...
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Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
I wonder what could be when is the S time???
Sweet sh*t...
Stinking strawberry...
sent while I ride my Yamaha
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Or.. Strawberry Shortcake or... Strudel lol
We'll probably end up going through Android 4.5 though before we see the next big release.
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Wow in list of Samsung Note 3 is ON TOP
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Android L = Android lollipop
wil it be available for note 2 n7100?
rohan164 said:
wil it be available for note 2 n7100?
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Will it be available for a 25 month old device that has had 2 major upgrades; when Google contracts only allow for 18 monts or 2 major updates.
I'm sure you can figure out the answer. But if not, it's NO.
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Hey... any idea or link there for Android 5.0 (i hate the fvckin' name) on SM-N9005 (Note 3)?
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redndian said:
It is alphabetically named.
E for éclair
F for froyo(frozen yoghurt)
G for ginger bread
H for honeycomb
I for ice cream sandwich
J for jellybean
K for KitKat
and all are named after desserts
So now the alphabet is L...
So it could be any dessert starting with L
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The name of the next android version marshmallow:fingers-crossed:
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The name of the next android version marshmallow:fingers-crossed:
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Hm! Sounds proper! They also sometimes use brand candy names (kit-kat) so if it ain't marshmallow then my second guess is definitely on Milky-way.
ShadowLea said:
Will it be available for a 25 month old device that has had 2 major upgrades; when Google contracts only allow for 18 monts or 2 major updates.
I'm sure you can figure out the answer. But if not, it's NO.
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If not it should be. The Note 2 is still quite a powerful device for its time, and I own a Note 3. It's asinine that two years of age somehow makes this technology obsolete, and antique. If Note 2 ran Kitkat, what stops it from running Lollipop, especially considering that Lollipop will run more optimally than its previous incarnations. These companies know this, but are too money hungry to care.
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If not it should be. The Note 2 is still quite a powerful device for its time, and I own a Note 3. It's asinine that two years of age somehow makes this technology obsolete, and antique. If Note 2 ran Kitkat, what stops it from running Lollipop, especially considering that Lollipop will run more optimally than its previous incarnations. These companies know this, but are too money hungry to care.
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It's always been this way.
In the technological world a device is outdated the moment it rolls off the assembly line. Such was the case with the first computers, and it remains that way.
Two years seems a short time to the people who spend several hundred hard-earned quid on a device, but in the world of technological advances, it's centuries.
Just because the customers think otherwise doesn't change anything.
I have a Note 2 as well and I would love to see it updated to Lollipop. I know it could run it. But I also know better than that. Contracts between companies are binding. That's it, the end.
It won't happen. No matter how much we want it to, how powerful the hardware is or how unfair it seems.
You have to realize how many updates they have to push out every time, and then realize how many more it becomes if they had to support every device they ever made. At any time, Samsung is processing upwards of 2100 updates. Every single time there's an update. Here, I explained it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55385445
Read that, and then imagine adding every single device older than 18 months to that list. Do you really think that's humanly possible? Because it's not.
And there's the very important fact that if companies had to continue their focus on old devices, they'd run out of money and time to make new ones. If they used that system, we'd still be using 1Ghz single cores and non-functional touchscreens. Progress demands casualties, I believe the old saying goes.
We may not like it, but that's how it works. Calling them greedy and evil is simply an excuse to not have to face the truth that our demands are impossible. If we demand the Note 2, others have a right to demand the S3. And the S2. And the S1. And the Galaxy Nexus. And the list goes on, because they all want it.
Hi buddy,
Thanks a lot for this wonderful work.
This is an awesome ROM and working flawless.
I am having one problem but not sure if it's a real bug or only my problem.
I have flashed V7.0 with full wipe on my Note 3 International (N9005), everything working great but whenever I am calling or receiving any call, The incoming voice volume is very less (even though I have made the volume control full).. It's very hard to understand if I am travelling or the person on other side is speaking gently.
any fix for this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Callprabs
callprabs said:
Hi buddy,
Thanks a lot for this wonderful work.
This is an awesome ROM and working flawless.
I am having one problem but not sure if it's a real bug or only my problem.
I have flashed V7.0 with full wipe on my Note 3 International (N9005), everything working great but whenever I am calling or receiving any call, The incoming voice volume is very less (even though I have made the volume control full).. It's very hard to understand if I am travelling or the person on other side is speaking gently.
any fix for this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Callprabs
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Wrong thread I believe.

T-Mobile 5.0 Update Rush

Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
memtenn said:
Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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IBTL:highfive:
I like cheese.
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
Most of these articles make me like tmo even more. I can wait for greatness. I think sprint use to watch xda closely because some how after every update leak that had problems and xda devs fixed them sprint would release a newer update with those problems gone lol gotta love xda
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for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
I have been using the unmodified port of SM-N910W8 Lollipop firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unmodified-port-sm-n910w8-lollipop-t3072920) for a while now and it has made my phone better. That said i rather wait for the tmo version without bugs instead of right now and render my phone unusable. Also there are many 5.0 roms already out which are infinite better than anything tmo can ever gives us .
racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Bad camera??? Laggy??? I dunno what phone you're using, but my Note 4 has an AWESOME camera and is faster/smoother than anything I've ever used before. Are you you running straight stock with no root, mods, etc?
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
Also samsung needs to do lot of testing on stable OS from google because of TW skin
topgun303 said:
I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
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To be fair it's not like Apple and Microsoft put out perfect OS's right out of the box. Granted Apple is a different model but software is software, at some point the decision has to be made to release, bugs and all.
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
I like orange peanuts. ....oh and I'm loving the modified Canadian Lollipop port!
OTA
I spoke with my friend who works for TMO he told me that they had been testing show failed it has reported back to Samsung takes little longer. He thinks it will release out in late summer. I am disappointed. I wish I had kept note 3 (N900T)
holywhitebread said:
Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
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Very true statement here... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :good::good::good:
Suzook1 said:
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
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Is Bluetooth working on it? 12.1 I mean also how's the battery. .last I tried it sucked bad
I agree with a lot of what was said here, but if you're on XDA, why not root and flash a custom ROM if you're unhappy with your phone? I've tried at least 4 ROMs for the Note 4 (and many more with the Note 3) and have found at least a couple are almost perfect and most have been far superior to stock in every way. And I'm just talking about normal performance; with root you also have the ability to add and subtract apps and features and theme your device and truly make it yours. With a custom ROM and all the options and performance root brings, we really won't need to update for years from the current OS. But if Samsung would lighten up TouchWiz, the updates would come faster.
mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
So some people are not happy and wish to stay with their old phones or even want to sell the note because an incremental update is late. LOL, that's f**king absurd.
BACARDILIMON said:
G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Haha u getting it?!?! That camera!

Lollipop *NOT* Confirmed for the SM-P600 (Arriving eventually)

Hi everyone. I was just chatting with a Samsung Representative and he/she has confirmed lollipop for the SM-P600 (at least in the US) very soon!
I have attached a screenshot of the conversation as proof of this exciting news.
SAMSUNG HASN'T FORGOT ABOUT THE NOTE 10.1 USERS!
I am sure Lollipop is coming to the SM-P60X devices eventually, but I would take the word of a lowest-level web support tech who is likely reading from a fill-in-the-blanks style script with SEVERAL grains of salt.
It will come when it comes.
The man stated that lollipop has been released for some versions already, which isn't true. It will come but there is no guarantee it will be soon as this guy in the chat doesn't seem to have a clue.
Out of curiosity: why is there so much interest in Lollipop for this tablet? I have Lollipop on my phone and 7 inch tablet, and KitKat on two of my Samsung tablets and I haven't noticed any features I'm missing on the Samsung tablets. Lollipop seems only slightly different, and I don't know if I can say it's any better. Am I missing some feature that would improve our Samsung tablet usage experience?
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kisrita said:
Out of curiosity: why is there so much interest in Lollipop for this tablet? I have Lollipop on my phone and 7 inch tablet, and KitKat on two of my Samsung tablets and I haven't noticed any features I'm missing on the Samsung tablets. Lollipop seems only slightly different, and I don't know if I can say it's any better. Am I missing some feature that would improve our Samsung tablet usage experience?
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Leaner TouchWiz among others...
I think Samsung's history is that newer TouchWiz versions only ship with new products, I don't recall them shipping new TW versions on older devices - i.e. most likely TouchWiz will remain at the current functionality level even with the Lollipop update on the Note 2014.
Given how buggy Lollipop is/was - I almost want them to either go straight to M or at the very least get us 5.1.1. (Moto G Alarm did not sound today due to messy and buggy downtime settings - no thanks Lollipop!)
blinkingled said:
I think Samsung's history is that newer TouchWiz versions only ship with new products, I don't recall them shipping new TW versions on older devices - i.e. most likely TouchWiz will remain at the current functionality level even with the Lollipop update on the Note 2014.
Given how buggy Lollipop is/was - I almost want them to either go straight to M or at the very least get us 5.1.1. (Moto G Alarm did not sound today due to messy and buggy downtime settings - no thanks Lollipop!)
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Not sure 5.1.1 is good enough. I have that on my phone and its performing worse than on the earlier lollipop versions. Could be a sign I need to upgrade my phone, but I think lollipop needs more work. Though I also think Samsung Touchwiz needs a lot of work too...
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Yeah 5.1.1 is terrible with the s6, still has memory leak, ram management problems.. I'll stick to cm12 on my tablet
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tylerholbrook said:
Yeah 5.1.1 is terrible with the s6, still has memory leak, ram management problems.. I'll stick to cm12 on my tablet
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Lolipop on Tab S actually made it faster than ever whilst letting it use less ram. I think that our version would be closer to what was released on Tab S than S6
Stevethegreat said:
Lolipop on Tab S actually made it faster than ever whilst letting it use less ram. I think that our version would be closer to what was released on Tab S than S6
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Errm not really. Yeah its smooth and all that but multitasking and switching apps is where it is absolutely terrible. I own the Tab S and only the scrolling lag and a few things are better. Ram usage is a ton higher and is terrible on lollipop.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Errm not really. Yeah its smooth and all that but multitasking and switching apps is where it is absolutely terrible. I own the Tab S and only the scrolling lag and a few things are better. Ram usage is a ton higher and is terrible on lollipop.
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I don't own one but I played with one running lollipop and it felt quite a lot faster/smoother than my Note 10.1 even when a new Rom was installed which I thought as weird given that they run the same hardware. Also checked Ram consumption after booting and it was 500-600 MB less as compared to my my Note's...
Of course all this may change after extended use. For example due to the ram bug that exists on many lollipop setups ram may go out of the window pretty fast. In which case performance may/will follow. But my initial experience was exactly that (as compared to KitKat): way more mature drivers.
Here's hoping -then- with all that extra time that Samsung put into it would fix any bug that lollipop brought to all other of her devices before releasing lollipop to our device.
The multitasking lag is a Google issue not something we can help. I would say that my Tab S is lightning quick now.
I sometimes wonder how google can **** up stuff like that, also the memory leak etc. I mean they are probably the richest company in the world and they hire the most intelligent people. And half the world will use their OS on multiple devices. IMHO they should only release new versions when they are sure that now big bugs are still present.
Lollipop definitely speeds this device up. I'm running the P905 port at the moment and it's awesomely snappy.
Any thoughts on gaining root access on Lollipop after updating?
My S4 had to root before updating and install a special update version...
Shanghai.Knight said:
Any thoughts on gaining root access on Lollipop after updating?
My S4 had to root before updating and install a special update version...
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I use a P905 port of Lollipop on my P605 and hadn't any problems to maintain root. Flashed Rom and twrp with odin, then Supersu via recovery.
Svartsyn333 said:
I use a P905 port of Lollipop on my P605 and hadn't any problems to maintain root. Flashed Rom and twrp with odin, then Supersu via recovery.
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I hope they port it to p600
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demmo81 said:
I hope they port it to p600
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Most likely not, you guys always seem to forget that P600 and P605 have totally different processors.
I, personally, do not like Lollipop on my Nexus 7. I do like KitKat on my Note 4.
What I'd really like to have KitKat on my US Note 10.1 (I have 4.4.2 and it says no other updates available). I haven't found anything in these forums about the US 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but maybe I missed them.
peaceridge said:
I, personally, do not like Lollipop on my Nexus 7. I do like KitKat on my Note 4.
What I'd really like to have KitKat on my US Note 10.1 (I have 4.4.2 and it says no other updates available). I haven't found anything in these forums about the US 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, but maybe I missed them.
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It's not about lollipop. It's about the upgraded sources and drivers. To this day even the hardware of this tablet (espec the exynos version) goes untapped. Android version 5.0 would be a side-effect, the real "star" would be tapping more of the resources of the tablet.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...oma-12-jul-t3155589/post62272383#post62272383
These guys are running the same hardware as us but their (official) lollipop based Roms caused their tablets to ... take flight. Basically that's what many of us wait, more optimization.
I mean we can have (some of) it by using AOSP but then we lose proper MultiWindow and Pen Support. An official Lollipop release solves all...

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