Danger of hard brick
Mind you, the you that you have installed the version 5.1 and you please do downgrade.
If possible downgrade and works CORRECTLY, but does not drop the bootloader version. (Motorola apparently not contemplated back the bootloader)
Well, if after downgrade accept an OTA, OTA is flash the bootloader and, being superior version, fails, result: this just corrupt. The phone turns off and no more lights. If the computer connect this is recognized as QHUSB_BULK. That while you have battery, since neither charge.
There are many moto g afflicted with the same problem, and have been waiting to release the BLANKFLASHFILES files needed to revive the phone. Unfortunately it seems that Motorola only thing it does is send to the affected to a technical service, with subsequent payment of repair, as it seems to those files could change the IMEI, etc.
So you know, maybe not downgrade, but if ye do not accept any OTA, the cell dies.
I speak from experience,The announcement is made
I downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0.2 thanks for the info bro
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i downgrade my moto e XT1524 and he's hard brick
moto G solution does not work for the moto e
is the a solution ???
can someone explain this with some better english?
In short, please never install any OTA update if you have downgraded from 5.1 stock rom to 5.0.2 stock rom. Otherwise your moto e will be dead permanently as motorola will never release the files to recover it.
If you have hardbricked in this way, only solution is to sell all parts individually except the motherboard like me. I have recovered 50% of its cost (Moto E 1st Gen).
Would flashing 5.0.2 bootloader along with downgrading prevent this issue ?
pollazht said:
Would flashing 5.0.2 bootloader along with downgrading prevent this issue ?
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Excluding the flash bootloader probably would avoid the brick
iks8 said:
can someone explain this with some better english?
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LOL yeah no kidding..
I've done it but...
Like none of these guys mention.. Most use custom roms and god knows what else.
Most people here use CM and then assume everyone else does too
I have done it a few times and had no problems.
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Excluding the flash bootloader probably would avoid the brick
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Sorry, I don't understand.
If I downgrade to be safe from brick I should:
a) Leave the the 5.1 bootloader
or
b) Flash the 5.0.2 bootloader and then flash Lollipop 5.0.2
?
Thanks in advance.
pollazht said:
Sorry, I don't understand.
If I downgrade to be safe from brick I should:
a) Leave the the 5.1 bootloader
or
b) Flash the 5.0.2 bootloader and then flash Lollipop 5.0.2
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Thanks in advance.
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If you already have version 5.1 bootloader CAN NOT DOWNGRADE, that's what causes the brick.
The flash fails and nothing happens, do not touch it.
The OTA is that if it tries to update and how it can not be corrupted. No more lights.
Need to downgrade
Hi there I updated moto E2(4G-LTE) to marshmallow..
After update it started heating up and battery drains more quickly..
I have tried all the solutions but nothing fixed it So I need to downgrade
It to lollipop 5.1.1 from marshmallow 6.0.. Will the service center people will downgrade it for me.. Or is there any solution for it
Shepherd22 said:
Hi there I updated moto E2(4G-LTE) to marshmallow..
After update it started heating up and battery drains more quickly..
I have tried all the solutions but nothing fixed it So I need to downgrade
It to lollipop 5.1.1 from marshmallow 6.0.. Will the service center people will downgrade it for me.. Or is there any solution for it
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you can make flash version 5.1.1 , will fail to flash the bootloader , but ignores and continues .
for safety otas not accept , but if the ota update the bootloader by which you should not miss anything .
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ducatman said:
i downgrade my moto e XT1524 and he's hard brick
moto G solution does not work for the moto e
is the a solution ???
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Hi, I have the same problem, did you manage to solve it?
Thank you"
Hi, thanks for warning. Can DOWNGRADE from 6.0 to 5.1 except BOOTLOADER ???
kaotd99 said:
Hi, thanks for warning. Can DOWNGRADE from 6.0 to 5.1 except BOOTLOADER ???
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Even if you would want, you couldn't downgrade INCLUDING bootloader )))
If the phone is unlocked, then any kernel, system, modem, and recovery can be flashed. Feel free to experiment, but don't receive any OTA after that. Receiving OTA on unlocked Motorola phone is prohibited, generally speaking. OTA mechanism isn't aware of every of your modification inside the phone, so kills what's not right to him.
m_loaiza said:
I downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0.2 thanks for the info bro
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how did u do that...plz tell me tge process
heeeeeeelp
m_loaiza said:
I downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0.2 thanks for the info bro
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bro plz tell me how to downgrade moto e lte from MM 6.0 to LP 5.0
I have a problem. I had the stock rom 5.1 or 5.0 can not remember which, actulice to version 6.0 OTA that firware I have to download?
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Hi.
I have New rom CPB3 from xeo csc
Can someone tell me if New bootloader cpb3 is locked?
In COJ5 yes.
But I don't know if i can return and make downgrade now
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francescnogales said:
Hi.
I have New rom CPB3 from xeo csc
Can someone tell me if New bootloader cpb3 is locked?
In COJ5 yes.
But I don't know if i can return and make downgrade now
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You can try
downgrade to 4.4.4? you can test and tell me, please?
Guys, don't wait for a new update with a bootloader that should be unlocked for downgrade to kitkat or LP 5.0.1.
It will never happen. We need to find a a way alone.
Why do people keep posting the bootloader is locked
it isnt locked it wont allow a roll back from U2 to U1
N910CXXU1COI4
N910CXXU2CPB1
This may have been done for various reasons
changes to efs changes to ril
samsung just being d***k heads etc..
one solution is to take the image you require unpack it and change its id
N910CXXU1COI4
change to
N910CXXU2COI4
it would flash then
there is also S2 now it may well be you cant roll back from S2 to U2
no idea havnt tried, but i suspect it will be fine and the 2 part is the key
Did anyone tired CPB3 ?
Also got the lastest update for XEO - CPB3.
Bootloader stayed the same - it's COJ5, so there'se so way you can go back (not officially at all).
May'be if you've skipped the COJ5 update and came to CPB3 from some older 5.1.1 version, it's possible.
hi friends,
i just flashed Marshmallow rom and downloaded the nougat from system update.. after installing the update Suddenly the device got switched off ...it is not responding at all... bootloader is also not opening ...just blinking the LED light While connecting with charger...pls help me...!
Did you downgrade from nougat to marshmallow and take the OTA? If yes, think u have bricked the phone.
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As Fede79 has mentioned, if you downgraded from the March 2017 or June 2017 stock firmware with an older firmware update (e.g Marshmallow), then accepted the OTA, you'd have likely hard bricked with a corrupted bootloader.
You can try rescuing your device with the blank flash from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-hardbrick-solved-guide-t3657761
If it works, then afterwards do not accept any OTA updates if you choose to downgrade. If you think you'll forget this, then do not downgrade.
Fede79 said:
Did you downgrade from nougat to marshmallow and take the OTA? If yes, think u have bricked the phone.
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Yes...by mistake i have done like that
echo92 said:
As Fede79 has mentioned, if you downgraded from the March 2017 or June 2017 stock firmware with an older firmware update (e.g Marshmallow), then accepted the OTA, you'd have likely hard bricked with a corrupted bootloader.
You can try rescuing your device with the blank flash from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-hardbrick-solved-guide-t3657761
If it works, then afterwards do not accept any OTA updates if you choose to downgrade. If you think you'll forget this, then do not downgrade.
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Thank you :highfive: echo92 ...it worked...thanks a lot...:good:
Hello everyone,
I am here to tell you guys. If you ever updated/flashed stock nougat soak test/ official updates on your moto x play. And if you reverted back to marshmallow. Then don't flash any ota updates you've recieved . Because it will result in a hardbrick (no fastboot/recovery mode).
As of now, there are no proper blank flash files to rescue device from hardbrick .blank flash files are present in leaked nougat soak test fastboot firmware. But they aren't working on these hardbricked devices
And I have seen almost 5-7 guys in past few days hard bricking their device by flashing ota updates
Motorola already mentioned that once updated you cannot rollback to previous android versions.
NOTE: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
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READ IT HERE !!
Note: if you ever wanted to rollback to previous android version then fastboot flash boot,system,userdata partitions only
Innfinite4evr said:
Hello everyone,
I am here to tell you guys. If you ever updated/flashed stock nougat soak test/ official updates on your moto x play. And if you reverted back to marshmallow. Then don't flash any ota updates you've recieved . Because it will result in a hardbrick (no fastboot/recovery mode).
As of now, there are no proper blank flash files to rescue device from hardbrick .blank flash files are present in leaked nougat soak test fastboot firmware. But they aren't working on these hardbricked devices
And I have seen almost 5-7 guys in past few days hard bricking their device by flashing ota updates
Motorola already mentioned that once updated you cannot rollback to previous android versions.
READ IT HERE !!
Note: if you ever wanted to rollback to previous android version then fastboot flash boot,system,userdata partitions only
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I applied a guy's Twrp recovery n now m on Sept. 1 security path along with 7.1.1 . Will it brick my phone if I flash 6.0.1 again through adb. ?? And please suggest a way to root Moto x play on 7.1.1 the old version of super su isn't working.
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Plus suggest a Valid way to get back to 6.0.1 . Bettery life is terrible on 7.1.1 . It was bit better on 6.0.1...even after clearing dalvic cache n all the stuff from Twrp..device can be hard bricked??? ..
my devices is bricked ****
Once you have decided to use custom rom and unlocked your bootloader, you no longer use stock rom. even if you use stock rom, you shall not accept or install OTA updates.
Many guys got their devices hard bricked including me and there is no fix till date.. Gave to various service centers and all are saying to change Mother Board, which may cost around 8k approximately.. Emmc can be flashed via Jtag box.. But guys using Jtag box are very rare.. As of now my MXP is kinda paper weight !!!
same here waiting for blank files
gilbertoperezx1 said:
same here waiting for blank files
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Ídem..
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Blank repair firmware needed .
help ...............
aamszia said:
Blank repair firmware needed .
help ...............
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There is no working blank flash files available.. You can get the MB Jtag Flashed or get the MB replaced.
Oh man, I wish I had this information before. Now my Moto X Play is also bricked
Well, I guess I'll wait to see if a method to unbrick comes along in the near future.
Flashed the NPN25.137-35 (Jan patch) stock rom on my moto g 5 plus to unbrick my phone. Went well but after booting, I'm not getting any OTA updates.
Flashed a newer version of the firmware - POTTER_NPNS25.137-35-5 (May patch) by following a video. Still not getting any updates.
PLEASE HELP!
Please reply guys!
roydhritiman said:
Flashed the NPN25.137-35 (Jan patch) stock rom on my moto g 5 plus to unbrick my phone. Went well but after booting, I'm not getting any OTA updates.
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I explain you based on my experience: You will never receive any more OTA as you don't have in sync the OEM partition. The OTAs check the "build.prop" in SYSTEM and the "oem.prop" in OEM. A lot of firmwares here for flashing your device lacks the OEM partition.
So, try to reflash a full firmware.
I hope it helps you!
manos78 said:
I explain you based on my experience: You will never receive any more OTA as you don't have in sync the OEM partition. The OTAs check the "build.prop" in SYSTEM and the "oem.prop" in OEM. A lot of firmwares here for flashing your device lacks the OEM partition.
So, try to reflash a full firmware.
I hope it helps you!
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how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
roydhritiman said:
how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
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Search in the forum!
Thread with all stock firmwares: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/firmwares-moto-g5-plus-t3593160
Repo 1: https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
Repo 2: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I don't know why it's for Indian version. However, search for the "release number" in this thread of "TWRP" (not full) ROMs:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Regards!
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how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/npns-version-to-npn-version-t3692516
There's a link posted there for the latest Indian firmware i.e NPN25.135-67-5
manos78 said:
Search in the forum!
Thread with all stock firmwares: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/firmwares-moto-g5-plus-t3593160
Repo 1: https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
Repo 2: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I don't know why it's for Indian version. However, search for the "release number" in this thread of "TWRP" (not full) ROMs:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Regards!
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I flashed the Brazil ROM (.15 version) on my G5 Plus and got the OTA update to the .67 version. After installing the update, the device went into a hard bricked state. No bootloader. Only the LED blinks when the device is connected. Tried reviving the bootloader using blankflash but it fails each time I try.
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I flashed the Brazil ROM (.15 version) on my G5 Plus and got the OTA update to the .67 version. After installing the update, the device went into a hard bricked state. No bootloader. Only the LED blinks when the device is connected. Tried reviving the bootloader using blankflash but it fails each time I try.
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Yeah, attempting to downgrade from the retail US May 2017 patch (NPNS25.137-35-5) to the Indian/Brazil .15 firmware and then attempting to take OTA updates has caused hard bricks previously.
Which blankflashes have you tried? Does the albus (Moto Z2 Play) blankflash work? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73062532&postcount=15 I do not know if any of the Moto Z Play blankflashes may work (given the similar hardware) or may not depending on how new they are.
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Yeah, attempting to downgrade from the retail US May 2017 patch (NPNS25.137-35-5) to the Indian/Brazil .15 firmware and then attempting to take OTA updates has caused hard bricks previously.
Which blankflashes have you tried? Does the albus (Moto Z2 Play) blankflash work? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73062532&postcount=15 I do not know if any of the Moto Z Play blankflashes may work (given the similar hardware) or may not depending on how new they are.
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Oh hey it got fixed. Flashed the debloated and deodexed ROM for the g5 plus. This is the ROM that's advised to flash after a hard brick, for this phone. And yeah I used the Albus blankflash. It worked successfully!
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Oh hey it got fixed. Flashed the debloated and deodexed ROM for the g5 plus. This is the ROM that's advised to flash after a hard brick, for this phone. And yeah I used the Albus blankflash. It worked successfully!
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Good to hear you got your device working. I imagine you could flash the TWRP flashables if you wanted a more updated system (since these flashables don't affect the GPT/bootloader, where the majority of the hard bricks seem to arise): https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Good to hear you got your device working. I imagine you could flash the TWRP flashables if you wanted a more updated system (since these flashables don't affect the GPT/bootloader, where the majority of the hard bricks seem to arise): https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Airtight I shall!
Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
Cheers.
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wiceqq said:
Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
Cheers.
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No need to push your question everyday. If someone is able/wants to answer he will do.
First of all: NPN25.137-92 is not the European firmware, it's the one for India and Brazil.
The latest one in Europe seems to be NPN25.137-93-14, since yesterday there is another update with version number NPN25.137-93-18 out incl. August security patch but until now only US users (software channel RETUS) have confirmed it. For India/Brazil (your firmware) the latest Nougat firmware is NPN25.137-92-14.
Have you fastboot flashed some firmware on your device so that you are on NPN25.137-92 now? That could be the reason you don´t receive any further OTA updates.
Your bootlader version should be visible when you boot into stock recovery.
Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.
wiceqq said:
Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.
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Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Wolfcity said:
Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.
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Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.
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No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Wolfcity said:
No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.
wiceqq said:
Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.
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You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Wolfcity said:
You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thank you. What in case I'm unlocked and in order to use google pay I need custom recovery and flashing magisk. How do i get back to stock oreo recovery then? I know it's a bit of offtopic, but maybe you can help me.