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My RAM usage is constantly over 90%. Phone also lags from time to time. Sometimes music player apps even get force closed due to the phone's poor RAM management. Already did factory reset twice, nothing has changed. Not sure if I'm the only one who's having this issue. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Android along with all modern OS use all the RAM they have available. This isn't WinXP days were things go to swap space and severely slow the OS down in the process. Unused items close in the background when RAM is needed. This is a feature, not a bug.
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phone has 2.5gb ram not 3gb and onlly 500 to 700 mb free generally, only google play services and google apps like google, map and android wear and all keeps over 1gb of total 2.5gb ram, this phone has really poor ram management
Aftab_khatri said:
phone has 2.5gb ram not 3gb and onlly 500 to 700 mb free generally, only google play services and google apps like google, map and android wear and all keeps over 1gb of total 2.5gb ram, this phone has really poor ram management
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Very true, when I had this phone I didn't even enable the Motorola functions to keep it at 1.6GB of RAM usage and I still thought that was extremely high...
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I'm noticing the same. Side by side with my trusty Nexus 6, and both having 3GB of ram, the N6 will keep apps open longer than my MXPure. N6 is showing 1.6 GB of memory available while the MxPure has only 700MB. It sucks because i stopped using my GS6edge for that same reason. I just want to be able to consistently swap between 4 different apps and not have them reload...
Yikes!
I haven't even gotten mine sent to me yet, and a little worried already. Are there any workarounds, or overclocking solutions in the makes, for the Moto X pure?
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papamalo said:
I haven't even gotten mine sent to me yet, and a little worried already. Are there any workarounds, or overclocking solutions in the makes, for the Moto X pure?
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Don't be too alarmed. It's a great phone. I still like it more than my S6edge and Nexus 6. Im hoping with the Marshmallow update that maybe they'll fix some of these issues. *fingers crossed*
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Don't be too alarmed. It's a great phone. I still like it more than my S6edge and Nexus 6. Im hoping with the Marshmallow update that maybe they'll fix some of these issues. *fingers crossed*
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I wonder what the most Ram-Hogging apps are on this phone? Any tests done yet about that?
Are people experiencing forced reloading / refreshing ? I've not had any issues with my European Style.
Compared to the S6 Edge (I was the creator of the first aggressive ram thread on the S6 Edge) its like night and day and easily comparable to my Nexus 6.
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I've noticed exactly the same. I also came from a Nexus 6. Yesterday I did a side-by-side test with the Nexus 6, and opened the same apps. The Moto X had to reload way earlier.
Checking the memory usage in Settings -> Apps -> Running showed that "System Memory" took up around 160Mb on the Nexus 6 but 1.2Gb on the Moto X!! This is with exactly the same apps running (apart from the Moto stuff of course).
It does seem strange that the system would use that much more memory. In many aspects the phones are the same (screen size in pixels, installed memory size etc.). This is one of the most annoying things about the Moto X, and the only reason that I am considering sending it back.
I'm really hoping that Marshmallow fixes this in some way.
Unused ram is wasted ram... Watch videos of the s6 ram management. S6 might open apps faster than moto x pure on first launch, but moto x reopens them much faster.
^^ The S6 ram management is terrible even if there are only 4apps open, all apps will reload back from the start.
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^^ The S6 ram management is terrible even if there are only 4apps open, all apps will reload back from the start.
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That's the point I'm making... S6 I believe has lots of free ram. I just want others to realize, more free ram might be an aggressive method of ram management. I find the mxp to be great with it.
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That's the point I'm making... S6 I believe has lots of free ram. I just want others to realize, more free ram might be an aggressive method of ram management. I find the mxp to be great with it.
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No the S6 doesn't have a lot of free ram. When you open application manager and check ram through there and click show cached processes it has very little ram free. Smart manager Samsung own manager is deceitful.
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High RAM use has not impacted my phones performance. My understanding is that the phone uses all the ram on purpose to speed things up.
My biggest worry was that high RAM use would bump out my automation tools (tasker), and keep them from triggering which would force me to put them in foreground mode, but I have not had to do this, tasker always triggers fine, even with ram at 100%.
It is frustrating when you're using Chrome and you tab out of Chrome to use another app and then tab back in and it has to reload the web page. I wish I had the ability to set the priority on things that I would like to have stay in memory and not reload.
Total RAM will almost always appears to be less than what the phone is described as having. The kernel has settings that keep certain amounts tucked away for system specific tasks and makes it unavailable to the rest of the OS. On the Spectrum we were able to go from about 700MB, to 820MB available by tweaking these settings. I imagine it won't be much harder in the MXP.
The main problem isn't low free RAM, as many have said, that is a good thing - lots of cached processes/Activities will shrink relaunch times.
The issue is that, at least compared to the Nexus 6, the Moto X is clearly terminating Activities way more aggressively, and it's really annoying.
I can't even run 4 apps without the first one restarting. It's infuriating.
Preparing to get a new phone soon,
this killapp concern now becomes my last question before getting X Style, or the ultimate deal breaker.....
Really hope to hear more feedback from users,
since I play games that loads for some time at startup, browse websites with lengthy pages (especially novels...)
So a system killing either of these tabs will be a disaster for me.
Actually it doesn't have to be on par with nexus5/6, but at least it should be within acceptable range in terms of kill time.
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I am considering moving from Note 4 to one of these. I think one of my bites into performance (particulary multitasking performance) is the 3GB of RAM.
Of course, this won't have all the bloatware as the Note, but then I have a lot of it 'disabled' anyway.
I'm assuming a lot here are Moto experienced, so thought I'd ask. Do you think 3GB would be enough? I have ~ 150 apps on my phone. Don't use for gaming. But on the road, I might have a car mode app running, GPS Navigation; Music streaming all simultaneously.
It'll be more than enough.
The Note 4 also has 3GB of Ram, so as far as memory goes, the Moto X should be "faster" since it also has less bloatware and a newer/better processor. Whether or not this will be true in reality is unknown, but all the evidence is pointing toward the Moto X Style thus far.
Wish it had 24 gigs @3600 Hz. With 1,000,000 mah ion battery. And 4k 3840 x 2160p full-array LED backlight. 24x camera zoom. Also SSD of 1 TB. Night vision aperture. And face and hand reader. Only be the size of 4.2" and weigh lighter than a piece of paper. So no 3 gigs is not enough.
It's all depends on how much the startup steals, i just read that the Note 5 is using over 2 GB just to get TW up and running.
So, in Motorolas case, its all good but not in Sammys
I think 3G should enough if you don't run any Samsung apps on it.
Yeah Samsung and their touchwiz is crap. One of the main reasons I am leaving Samsung and buying a Moto X.
3GB of RAM is plenty if you ask me. Its all about how well Motorola optimise it and I'm sure they will manage nicely.
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I'm sure 3gb will be enough for the moto x, it shouldn't have any bloat on it. My verizon S5 has a bunch of carrier bloat on it and only 2gb of ram and I can make it stall pretty hard just using the browser and streaming pandora.
5.1.1 fixes several of memory leaks that have been plaguing the android phones since kitkat (or even before) and early 5.0. So, Note4 is suffering from those bugs as well.
So, with 3GB of memory on X you should get an experience which is similar to 6GB on Note4 (if it had 6GB) which I presume does not run 5.1 yet. Accounting for the bloat that Samsung apps introduce.
I am running CM12.1 with 5.1.1 on Moto G (2014) and its much better than kitkat or 5.0 lollipop experience I had. It feels a whole different phone altogether.
Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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For the reason I stated in the quesiton...running lots of apps.
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Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Actually, if I were able to root (I'm on AT&T, and unfortunately cannot), I could run an app that determines what loads when. But without that, it loads all kinds of apps even though I'm not using them. (Maybe I'm the only one, but I consider that a poor design/implementation of software management by Android). Add all those to the bloat, it does get laggy...especially if multitasking.
Generally using, it performs great. But just as one example of multitasking where I notice it very laggy: Going for a walk, tracking with MyTracks; playing music via BT headset; receive message...opening message very slow.
Having been a Samsung addict for a long time, I haven't experienced non-Samsung. So, wasn't sure about others. I always read users disparage of Samsung and it's software, but as noted I've always been able to get past that due to rooting, etc. But not any more.
So, I"m ready to move away from Samsung...but then feel I should get the most I can get. Don't want to move away to then be disappointed.
I"m pretty much convinced that 3GB will be fine...for now. But as time goes on, more and more useful apps will be coming out. I feel that 4GB will give me a certain amount of longer time to be able to stick with the phone, whichever one I get.
iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
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iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
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Don't be afraid, man. When my nexus 4 was still alive I could throw anything at it, and it would never lag or eat up more than 1.3 GBs of RAM. And that was a 2012 phone.
Samsung just can't keep up with its own software, so they sell you their top of the line hardware, at high prices, to compensate for their inability to optimise. Moto and nexus are just a completely different world
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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Don't really agree that iOS has better code than android. A lot of apps now have moved over to using something like apache cordova / nativescript and write one app (in JavaScriptl) which is then able to run on each platform. However, Apple has a better vetting process so in general, I've seen apps that have memory leak issues or are just plain bad when it comes to memory be not allowed to the store. Google's vetting process isn't as strict AFAIK - could be wrong - so there's that element to it.
So my status now is that I ordered T-Mobile Note 4 that I can root and rom. I'll try a less bloated ROM and see how it goes. That'll give time to get the new Moto Pure in, and Nexus phones in , and see how the reviews go. Maybe I'll be happy with the rooted Note 4.
If you had to go upgrade into full encryption and have your Moto Pure become even more lagged down? There are videos showing the OG N5 making the N5X look like a heavy smoker... Can you imagine? There's already complaints on here about lag and heavy RAM usage as it is... If that happens, I foresee a lot of Pures on Swappa in the near future...
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If you had to go upgrade into full encryption and have your Moto Pure become even more lagged down? There are videos showing the OG N5 making the N5X look like a heavy smoker... Can you imagine? There's already complaints on here about lag and heavy RAM usage as it is... If that happens, I foresee a lot of Pures on Swappa in the near future...
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They already have a method to disable encryption on the 5X. However my wife's 5X is buttery smooth. I haven't seen even so much as a stutter or hiccup. There was an immediate update when I unboxed so maybe the issues were patched? But either way you can disable to encryption.
But to stay on topic, why would that be required? I mean a big part of it is to protect the fingerprints and android pay... we don't have that... well android pay but no fingerprint
You could encrypt, and with some jobs they require it but I don't think it would be the end of the world. Encryption has gotten better over the years and without seeing how Marshmallow will work on our phones we do not know if it would be bad or not. You are comparing a phone with 2 GB of ram and 1080p screen to a phone with 3 GB of ram and 1440 p screen so it isn't a fair comparison. Could still be smooth or could be a problem. Either way we have a choice and since we don't have to worry about a fingerprint reader the choice is a little easier
From my understanding to decrypt you have to have an unlocked bootloader and modified boot img. You can't just go into settings - security - and undue it all. At least that's why there's conflict about it in the first place and why Google is saying all new Android phones shipped with 6.0 will require it. All Apple phones already have it built in, and it is becoming a necessity. Have you actually gone into your wife's phone and tried to undo it just to see if it's even possible without hacking?
You also have to keep in mind Moto X apps are using a lot more RAM than Pure Android stock. My N7 2013 is showing 650MB used on average since the update. The Pure was well over 2 gigs and with chrome it was janky as hell. That's what made me think of the Pure when I was watching the YouTube videos. Also, can't forget that 808 has a pretty sour GPU, so those extra pixels it's pushing isn't necessarily a plus right now. I'd take .5 a gig less RAM (It's really 2.5GB on Pure) and a 1080p screen to keep things smooth.
One Google search of "Android Marshmallow Encryption" will pop out dozens of articles from Google sources backing my facts on the encryption. Two of many examples are below...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...-mandatory-device-encryption-for-new-devices/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493585,00.asp
Is the Moto X Pure Edition a "new phone shipping with 6.0"?
No.
Will encryption be required with the OTA to 6.0?
No.
It's required on the Nexus 6 (which it wasn't before), and I wouldn't go answering questions that you can't/don't know answers to, just because the thought of it pisses you off...
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It's required on the Nexus 6 (which it wasn't before), and I wouldn't go answering questions that you can't/don't know answers to, just because the thought of it pisses you off...
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The nexus 6 launched with encryption enabled on Lollipop.
It was removed, very early in updates, due to stress on CPU...
Just saying... The first MOTOROLA phone to get 6.0 has forced encryption... Wasn't for N7 or N5. A phone with almost exactly the same specifications already has it (N5X), I wouldn't jump on the whole "No it will not have it" bandwagon, without some rock solid info. I at least had the decency to do that...
I'm considering buying an unlocked 16GB Moto G4 Plus. I have a question about multi-tasking with the 2GB of RAM. Let me explain what I mean by giving scenarios:
Currently I'm using a LG Stylo (1GB RAM) but have used a Galaxy S6 Edge+ (4GB RAM).
I like that with the S6e+ I can stream internet radio, press home to open up the browser and view a page or take a pic to post to Facebook, press home then send a message in Hangouts, then press home (or recent apps) and go back to the browser without it having to reload the page because of low memory... all while still streaming.
On the LG Stylo if I press home and then go back to the browser it has to reload the page even if I don't run another app. When I try to post a picture to Facebook by the time it loads the camera or gallery it will need to reload the page and I lose my picture sometimes and have to try again.
My question: How well does the 2GB of RAM work on this phone? Can you browse and do other functions without the page being taking out of memory if you go to send a text or take a pic? What if you had two tabs open?
Thanks for the help! Hope to be here rooting soon!
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I'm considering buying an unlocked 16GB Moto G4 Plus. I have a question about multi-tasking with the 2GB of RAM. Let me explain what I mean by giving scenarios:
Currently I'm using a LG Stylo (1GB RAM) but have used a Galaxy S6 Edge+ (4GB RAM).
I like that with the S6e+ I can stream internet radio, press home to open up the browser and view a page or take a pic to post to Facebook, press home then send a message in Hangouts, then press home (or recent apps) and go back to the browser without it having to reload the page because of low memory... all while still streaming.
On the LG Stylo if I press home and then go back to the browser it has to reload the page even if I don't run another app. When I try to post a picture to Facebook by the time it loads the camera or gallery it will need to reload the page and I lose my picture sometimes and have to try again.
My question: How well does the 2GB of RAM work on this phone? Can you browse and do other functions without the page being taking out of memory if you go to send a text or take a pic? What if you had two tabs open?
Thanks for the help! Hope to be here rooting soon!
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Will recommend 3gb variant because as you dont close background app.S6 is far superior then g4 as it has better processor and ram.They both cannot be compared.
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Will recommend 3gb variant because as you dont close background app.S6 is far superior then g4 as it has better processor and ram.They both cannot be compared.
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I understand that and should have said that I realize the S6 is much more of a powerhouse. I'm currently using a device with 1GB of RAM and I do close my background apps ( and use Greenify) but it doesn't help... I wasn't sure if an extra 1GB of RAM would help.
I don't see a 32-gigabyte version for sale anymore tho, I looked... Not on Motorola's website, Amazon, or Swappa. I'm in the US and dunno what happened to it or if it was ever available.
I can go with the 64GB version with 4GBs of RAM but considering the phone has adoptable storage I thought of this as an unnecessary expenditure. I guess it's really about the RAM.. Thank you for replying.
I looked up BLU phones but heard about the battery issues that's why I wanted to go with a major manufacturer.
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I understand that and should have said that I realize the S6 is much more of a powerhouse. I'm currently using a device with 1GB of RAM and I do close my background apps ( and use Greenify) but it doesn't help... I wasn't sure if an extra 1GB of RAM would help.
I don't see a 32-gigabyte version for sale anymore tho, I looked... Not on Motorola's website, Amazon, or Swappa. I'm in the US and dunno what happened to it or if it was ever available.
I can go with the 64GB version with 4GBs of RAM but considering the phone has adoptable storage I thought of this as an unnecessary expenditure. I guess it's really about the RAM.. Thank you for replying.
I looked up BLU phones but heard about the battery issues that's why I wanted to go with a major manufacturer.
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As far as the 4gb variant is concerned it is useless,i have fifa 16,coc,fb,chrome etc in background even though my ram is not fully used.max 1.8 gb have been used not more then that.Moreover the processor snapdrgn 617 is not that powerfull to use 4gb ram.Battery will get affected for 4gb.Verdict g4 3gb suits best for you.
I'm not sure if it's just an error but any 32 gigabyte version I see says it has only 2 gigs of RAM.
I saw a review saying that the phone has jittery animations and feels sort of sluggish. But once it's rooted you could adjust the memory options, the CPU core control, and have it function a little smoother. I see CM and Pac ROMs....
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I'm not sure if it's just an error but any 32 gigabyte version I see says it has only 2 gigs of RAM.
I saw a review saying that the phone has jittery animations and feels sort of sluggish. But once it's rooted you could adjust the memory options, the CPU core control, and have it function a little smoother. I see CM and Pac ROMs....
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I dont know about US but in india 16 gb has 2gigs of ram,32 gb 3 gigs of ram.I have not encountered any sluggish UI till now.But screen burn happens.Animations are smooth.
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I dont know about US but in india 16 gb has 2gigs of ram,32 gb 3 gigs of ram.I have not encountered any sluggish UI till now.But screen burn happens.Animations are smooth.
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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Yeah screen retention which will be for 10 mins.Lol same reason why i bought this phone!If you dont have problem with screen retention you should go for it.As far as the retention is concerned it has been reported by indian users mostly,which the phone was manufactured in tamil nadu,india.Have not heard any one of US having that problem.
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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Got tempted to butt in with my $0. 02, being a new moto G owner and someone with not many work days to clock in lately.
I have the XT 1643, the Indian variant with 3/32Gb. After almost about a month of (rigorous) use, entailing flashing recovery, kernel and ROM back and forth, I find the ROM/RAM parameter to not really be the clincher.
For one, when I was on stock ROM, without even the OEM unlock and just a handful of playstore apps, the UI was OKAY, not what I'd expected having switched over from a 2014 2gig ram zenfone with a puny 8gig internal storage, an x86 Intel processor (which meant compatibility with only 60-70% of all Android apps) and a 16GB ext SD Card. Its Lollipop 5.0 stock firmware (its last official firmware update, as usual heavily modded UI and a truck load of Asus bloat masquerading as system apps) had pushed me to the end of my rope, but a chance attempt at braving to flash a custom ROM (CM based Android 6), followed by installing xposed mods and whiling my time away on android customization forums and such, helped salvage it from getting tossed out, at least for a good six months till its battery died coinciding with Moto G4 hitting the market.
So, coming back to the current phone, a week on, I unlocked and rooted, installed xposed, crammed up a cache of apps and mods, and spent time following how to guides on xda. But, I wasn't really sure if I'd cracked it as yet. Flashing the kernel was fun first time activity, and following up with the dev and users about its features kept me from comparing performance for a bit. However, with flashing to RR ROM, things have begun to look up, I can go about switching between apps or Chrome tabs with no noticeable lag. There's a large set of customization features, which along with tweaking battery and cpu performance have brought me closer to how I'd want my phone to behave.
TL;DR Having a bare bone OS with chosen essential apps, a stable custom ROM with multiple customization features, mods and apps to tweak performance + battery, is what could ideally make the switch over to a higher RAM device worthwhile, which probably is a lot better than running synthetic benchmark tests and comparing results on forums about tests.
About the 64gig variant, not quite sure why you can't find a 32gig one, though signs seem to point to Motos habit of selling different spec models in different markets. And, unless it came with a standard OEM warranty, I wouldn't buy a phone even if it's the better one.
I agree, warrantee is very important. I wouldn't buy a used phone.
I'll be looking forward to getting this device in the next few months. I'm not worried about internal space since it has adoptable storage but I think I'll spend the extra money for the 4GB version.
Thanks for all the help!
Hey guys, question for you.
I just switched from the pixel to the S8, been using it since Thursday. Is it just me or is the RAM management not as good as people say? I've seen multiple youtube reviews who have the same model as me (US T-Mobile variant) where they had 10 apps open and none of them refreshed upon reopening. When I do the same thing, 6 or 7 out of my 10 apps refresh everytime... Is there a setting where I can change the limit of background processes or something? It just doesn't make sense
Is nobody else having this issue?
I notice this happening a lot now especially in apps like facebook and chrome.
Happening all the time for me since the Nougat update. Worse yet, apps are getting completely killed. Not even in the switcher any more. Did not have this issue on my S7 Edge on Marshmallow but had it there as well after it got updates to Nougat. The S8+ just continued the same trend.
same issue on the S8+ ... quite annoying. If anyone has any ideas how to improve, please share.
Now even 3 gb ram phones are keeping more apps in the memory
I still haven't test it as i am waiting for a cover to take it out the box.
But is it possible its a configuration to kill the apps in background to make better the battery's life? Check in developer or in any place you can just in case. If not, it might be a bug then :/
Having the same issues. Was expecting better than management when they already increased the ram memory.
Just used the phone for 2 days and the service apps takes up 2gb ram.
What's the point of increasing the ram when the service apps already taking up half of it?
And it kills the app every time I switch apps. How annoying...
I should say nowadays(2019) the 4G RAM is far more NOT enough. I have bought non-notch pixel3 and disappointed with the RAM management, the background only can hold 4-5 apps as the maximum amount and if exceed the apps will be killed automatically. Actually, I've used Stock Android system from nexus 1, I could never face the RAM issue before, I don't know that's because of the expanding of the apps or something, but Android Pie is really performance bad in this aspect. As I concerned this is such a big problem I returned the pixel3 to Google. Now I bought the pixel 2XL again, I think it could be better than p3 in RAM management, but I am wrong. The most significant problem is when you open the camera app and then switch to another app which you opened before, there is 90% possibility that the app could be killed such as play store and wechat. Thus I guess it is the fundamental issue caused by Android Pie. Today I heard my friend told me that the new update possibly solve this issue to some extent, I tried yet and the background situation is really getting better than before. When I open the camera and take pics for 3 min and then back to another app, this app will not be killed. What do you guys think of this update? What do you think of the RAM issue? Do you think 4G RAM is fair enough still or not? Let us discuss. Forgive my bad English grammar.