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Nexus One first week sales = weak.((20k))

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE

melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.

Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....

The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.

mark925 said:
As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do

To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.

My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
Cheers,
Kermee

So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me

booloobunny said:
..."But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.

When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.

uansari1 said:
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.

I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone

once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.

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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.

since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
Cheers,
Kermee

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D

I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.

Great device but buyers remorse sort of...

After a full week with the Focus and an sd card no problems everything integrated and working to perfection. Speed is awesome and I love it, but I am having a little remorse. I have seen the specs on new phones coming out with the dual core tegras and front facing cameras am I wrong to doubt sigining a renewal with att for the focus? I am really on the edge because my TP2 was functioning fine and I was holding off for wp7 really but like I said I want my phone to have a fair amount of options front facing camera is probably coming soon, and I would like that for family and such, and really not missing the keyboard too much due to the awesome virtual keyboard (as good as the iphones). Anyone else feeling like this or have any suggestions or a roadmap of devices. I have until the 11 of december to return the device I have it armored up so it still looks new on return if the remorse grows. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas

I know how you feel, but, with this kind of mindset you would never buy any electronic equipment ever again because there is always something better just around the corner.
I love my focus - I am very impressed with the device, more so than I thought I would be.
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I know trust me
I work for a company that is a direct partner with intel so we get roadmap stuff like 3-6yrs down the road kind of hampers my building for myself until I am able to test. I guess that is what hurts me in PC world I get my hands on new stuff and get an idea, I miss my cellular job so much now. Just that like I said just a couple of options I would like (basically two cameras and maybe a keyboard), I was told by a rep that copy/paste should be released this week as well (don't know how true that is). Trust me I love my focus as well and so do my kids and netflix I think I have a resource I haven't used at Samsung and will see if anything new he knows of.

I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.

emjee87 said:
I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.
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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...

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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...
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I've never gotten such an offer, even when I attempted to break contract about a year in just to see what I could settle with them. 3 people on my family plan have iPhone 4s and love them, plus my company gives us a pretty decent discount on our monthly rates (although it's still sky high with 6 data plans). Every time I've been tempted to just pay out the rest of my contract and go to Verizon, who has fantastic service in my area, something nags me back from doing it like the ability to use SIMs in other countries since there seems to be more worldphone options on AT&T or a new phone comes out that I want to play with (iPhone4, and now the Focus...)
In short, damn you AT&T

a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better

V DidDy 210 said:
a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better
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Ditto! except for the deciding part, I already figured that one out quick. I still had to pay a $35 restocking fee when I returned the Captivate, though. Despite telling them the GPS was completely f'd and I need it functioning for how I use the phone, which was advertised as having...GPS...

Good phone for the wife?

So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?

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So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?
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i think that xiaomi red ice for you wife is the correct phone!
it costs around 150$ and it includes miui v5 with android 4.2.2 and they are always updating!
is a chinese brand but the quality is so good and the screen is made by AUO the same as apple!
http://www.xiaomi.es/#!xiaomi-redrice-general/c1kk2

My wife thought the phone was a little to thick for her to use with one hand comfortably. (No jokes please).
Her last 2 phones were a HTZ Rezound and a Motorola RAZR M. She said she has no idea how people use phones with bigger screens then that but then she held the HTC ONE. Well needless to say, she ended up with the HTC ONE. It felt thinner and narrower in her hand then the N4.
Could she have used the N4, yes but another one of her requirments was a good camera...
As long as the size is okay for your wife and based on her other requirements in a phone, the phone itself and the software just running stock 4.3 work perfect. With older versions of Android I would usually say you really would need to tweak it for the average user to enjoy it but 4.3 is running better then ever and can pretty much please anyone just running stock. Heck, I am running stock and don't feel the need to change right now to a custom. Only tweak I really needed was to make the Nav bar smaller and it is perfect now!

bucket81 said:
So we are looking in to switching from Verizon to T-Mobile, currently the wife's # is out of contract and I have been looking into phones I like the price tag of the Nexus 4 and if it where for me I'd get it no questions but it's for the wife. The only phone she has had is an iPhone 4s so I'm wondering if this would be a good replacement? I've looked at some extensive reviews and I'd say yes, but I wanted more of a long term opinion would you guys or gals have your significant other (non techy individual) use this phone?
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Without hesitation!!
I got one for mine and she loves it...I left it all stock, but did root it as she likes to change fonts like the weather changes...IDK why but I'm not going to ask her...Sometimes you're better off not knowing why
It took her a little getting use to the size difference. Had a 4s and an Atrix 4g.
Now she wouldn't go back. No lagging runs smooth as glass...speaking of which
If you do get her 1 I'd recommend getting a case right away as they are a slippery phone and glass front and back.
AS for the camera not being outstanding...it's a phone 1st and foremost, and takes some decent pics with a little tweaking.
There is a thread showing off some pics in the general section...Link Here
The price vs performance ratio can't be matched right now.
No contract crap, updates before any other phones, you own a quad core phone outright for a couple hundred $$.
Deal!!
Good Luck!!

I swear to God that when I read your post I read: "Good phone OR wife" hahahahahaha
That happens to a lot of people in here... including myself... if we get a good phone, we may lose our wives! hahahahahaha

Like mentioned by one of the previous users, Android 4.3 has come a long ways. For the first time, I am actually running the stock ROM (with root and a few modifications). For the average consumer, the N4 is a very viable option, ESPECIALLY at the current price of 199/249.
Size could be a concern and the HTC One is definitely a better design for folks who have small hands, but I think the N4 is by no means uncomfortable. Having come from a HTC Sensation and Galaxy Nexus, the phone feels better in my hands than either of the two previous devices.

8gb are gone now, only 16gb($249) is currently available. Just ordered one saturday and shipped today. Hopefully im not disappointed when i get it

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8gb are gone now, only 16gb($249) is currently available. Just ordered one saturday and shipped today. Hopefully im not disappointed when i get it
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There is definitley nothing to be dissapointed with! Coming from an S3 I don't miss it at all. With the wife having an HTC ONE, it is a great device for her but I would personally take an N4 any day.
Stock Android with quick updates just cannot be beat! Also, I do not even understand why they made this phone in an 8GB version. Talk about limiting a device and what you can do with it. What is there like 4-5GB of usable space when it is all said and done.
Good thing for people buying one today that there are no 8GB ones left. You will be happier with the 16GB which is still kind of pushing the low end size of memory but is at least somewhat do-able.

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There is definitley nothing to be dissapointed with! Coming from an S3 I don't miss it at all. With the wife having an HTC ONE, it is a great device for her but I would personally take an N4 any day.
Stock Android with quick updates just cannot be beat! Also, I do not even understand why they made this phone in an 8GB version. Talk about limiting a device and what you can do with it. What is there like 4-5GB of usable space when it is all said and done.
Good thing for people buying one today that there are no 8GB ones left. You will be happier with the 16GB which is still kind of pushing the low end size of memory but is at least somewhat do-able.
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Thanks for the insight.. and yeah i love the phone overall, based on the reviews, videos, pictures online. The only thing that can really disappoint me are the negative things i keep reading online, major issues with it. Some on top of my head are: "Sleep of death", "Reception really bad", "call buz", "battery Leaking" "Red light of death" all of those make me not want the phone LOL. I know this does not mean ALL devices come with these problems, just saying I would hate to recieve a Lemon Lol

Well it looks like we might have to put the switch on hold her car is acting up and I fear it will need a transmission.. I did the math and if I buy out of our Verizon contract for the other 2 lines we would end up saving around $250 in the first 15 months that's after paying $450 to end the contract. And that's with getting 3 new phones on tmoble. Might just get a G2.

bucket81 said:
Well it looks like we might have to put the switch on hold her car is acting up and I fear it will need a transmission.. I did the math and if I buy out of our Verizon contract for the other 2 lines we would end up saving around $250 in the first 15 months that's after paying $450 to end the contract. And that's with getting 3 new phones on tmoble. Might just get a G2.
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If your wife's contract has ended can't you just unlock the iphone? It would save money, even though I hate iphones

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If your wife's contract has ended can't you just unlock the iphone? It would save money, even though I hate iphones
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Doesn't work. While you can unlock the iPhone 4s from other carriers you can not from Verizon, unlocking a verizon phone only let's it work international nor on local networks. Unless I missed something bc I'd be all over that if someone has info I don't.

Who's camping?

I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it

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I'm really thinking I might at the very least camp it for an hour before my T-Mobile opens. I was told they only have 5 phones to sell and they didn't know if they were getting another shipment. I assume they are though, because why else would they delay the launch. If I can't get one, then it's not the end of the world.
So, what are your game plans? Anyone pitching a tent?
BTW, I went in and checked out the demo. First impressions were good, everything I had expected although I will say this: the midnight blue is the BIGGEST fingerprint magnet I've ever seen. The back of it looked like it had already seen three years of hard abuse. I'll def be putting a case or skin on it
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I'm pretty confident in saying that you won't have to camp. Nobody outside of these forums even knows the phone is being released. I work in a dept of over 300 people with smartphones and not a single person has heard nor cares about the N6.
The are you going to buy it poll on the most frequented android forum in the world had a whopping 155 votes. People are acting like this phone isn't going to be available.
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I tend to agree. I contemplated camping until I considered I might be the only one outside waiting. I might get there 20 minutes early though. Just in case. Even if they sell out the stock before I get a chance to buy one. I'm doubtful it will be on back order the first day. So odds are they'll be able to ship it in a couple days, hopefully.
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I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white

My impression was waiting 4-5 hours before they open. Interesting that people in here are not to worry about it. Guess depends where you live. When I got my M7 on launch day in Bellevue, I went half an hour before they opened and was like 4th in line, and several people behind me. Going based on that.

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Not right now...

For perspective, the Nexus 5 sold less than 5 million units since release. The Note 4 sold nearly that in a week. No matter how difficult Google makes it to get online, the phone will be widely available at the carriers. Nexus devices have never sold well, even at 299-399 dollars. I suspect the 650-700 dollar Nexus wont be flying out of the stores, either. If people want a Phablet, they'll just get a Note 4, its pretty much cornered the market on Phablets. I love the Nexus line, but I can count on one hand how many people I've ever seen in the wild with one since the Nexus one, and I live in NY.

At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.

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At the earliest, I'll be there around 1 hour before release. Like others have said in the thread so far, this isn't a very popular release outside of the XDA forums. In fact, most Tmobile reps are clueless about the launch itself.
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I agree. And on top of that, getting any consumer electronics item a few weeks before it becomes widely available isn't going to improve your life in any measurable way. By the way, I ordered through Motorola and am expecting delivery on November 26th. I think I can wait another 11 days.

Does camping around your phone that has two apps set up to alert you when it's available count? I will actually be working at T-Mo that day, I'm in training so don't go asking me questions b/c honestly I know as much as you all at this point. I'll get outta work around 2-3pm and maybe drive around to take ganders at it if I can.

I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha

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I'll be camping at the website waiting to order a 64 GB one. Haha
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Same and hopefully they allow us to do that at Midnight.

i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.

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i seriously doubt camping is necessary. google did no large scale marketing at all, and stores typically get new devices in during a shipment midday (unless led by apple who can drive a SPECIFIC launch date world wide). heck, i sold 2 galaxy edges at my att store on the 13th even though we expected them to arrive on the 18th. so fingers crossed we get our nexus 6 before the expected arrival of 21st.
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Wait someone bought the edge!?!?

TheDonXR said:
Wait someone bought the edge!?!?
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yeah haha we had 2 edges come in and they gobbled it up at my att store in addison tx

Will likely be at one of the leaked stores supposed to sell it at least 5 hours in advance of opening.

zcgofaster said:
I think it'll be win win. If I get one, awesome. If not then I'll get what I really want: 64gb white
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Ditto

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Not right now...
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Get this man a beer for this post (and maybe a nudie mag)

I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.

uhguy said:
I'll probably be showing up right when they open at 9AM. I was at one of my local stores at 9AM for the Z3 release (returned it due to lack of group messaging support) and I was the only one there.
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I think this is much more popular than the Z3.

Should I wait to buy

I'm on the fence here. I remember back in the n5 days (i think) ppl complained about the wobbly power button but in later releases it was resolved. Everything I've read and seen looks promising but wondering if waiting til customer and site reviews such as mkbhd come out. I have a one plus 1 now and in the first release there were complaints about a yellowing at the bottom of the screen. Bought mine months later so I never had that problem. I'm leaning towards the 6p frost 64g… think it looks beautiful but just don't want to get a first release with problems that need fixing
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jeff5347 said:
I'm on the fence here. I remember back in the n5 days (i think) ppl complained about the wobbly power button but in later releases it was resolved. Everything I've read and seen looks promising but wondering if waiting til customer and site reviews such as mkbhd come out. I have a one plus 1 now and in the first release there were complaints about a yellowing at the bottom of the screen. Bought mine months later so I never had that problem. I'm leaning towards the 6p frost 64g… think it looks beautiful but just don't want to get a first release with problems that need fixing
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I was in the same boat, you will have 15 days to decide after you get it and after that I'm sure if anything serious is wrong google will replace it.

Go for it with hands on to decide...

jeff5347 said:
I'm on the fence here. I remember back in the n5 days (i think) ppl complained about the wobbly power button but in later releases it was resolved. Everything I've read and seen looks promising but wondering if waiting til customer and site reviews such as mkbhd come out. I have a one plus 1 now and in the first release there were complaints about a yellowing at the bottom of the screen. Bought mine months later so I never had that problem. I'm leaning towards the 6p frost 64g… think it looks beautiful but just don't want to get a first release with problems that need fixing
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Wait 30 days at least. By then new batch is out + price dropped. Not worth buying android phones at release.
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I bought the n5 the day it came out. And was 100% happy from day one ... No wobbly button or nothing. There is no better feeling than having the best thing before everyone else even knows it exist. I just bought a g4 in April and I'm getting a 6p. BUY IT!

I have just about every current Nexus device, except the 5 (did the LG G2&G3 thing for a bit), and I haven't had a problem with any of the devices or customer support from Google.
At the end of the day, can you get the help you need and/or can you return it? If yes, why not go for it?
If you want to play it safe, wait a month.
Only you can decide which you are comfortable doing.

ambervals6 said:
Wait 30 days at least. By then new batch is out + price dropped. Not worth buying android phones at release.
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Price drops after 30 days? Wow. Someone should have told Google they forgot that policy on the N6. They might have actually sold a few of them.
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Semantics said:
Price drops after 30 days? Wow. Someone should have told Google they forgot that policy on the N6. They might have actually sold a few of them.
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Lots of people start selling it once they realize nexus is overhyped by tech nerds
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ambervals6 said:
Lots of people start selling it once they realize nexus is overhyped by tech nerds
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Oh okay. I don't buy used phones so I wouldn't know. Good deal for those who do.

I'm planning to wait.
I want to read reviews. I want to see how the 810 chipset in the phone performs (given its troubled history). I want to see how the camera does (many many phones have made big claims about new cameras, only to disappoint--and don't refer me to DxoMark's ranking of the 6P, their rankings are beyond bogus, just hype for the industry, like JD Powers). I also want to wait until I'm not caught up in the release hype so I don't make an impuslive decision (since I'm still not sure I want a phone this big and I'm disappointed there's no OIS). I'm hoping eventually there will be carrier availability so I can see one in the store first (and if not I won't have lost anything by waiting).
Further, Nexus phones, like all phones, have had a history of having problems (software and hardware) in the very first phones. There have even been minor hardware changes in later batches.
So I say, let other people be the guinea pigs. There is little to gain from induldging one's impatience.

Thanks all. I think for me waiting is a better bet. Still def want the nexus just want to see reviews saying its a great buy. Even still if Reviews are lackluster I know what to expect. Don't sites like androidpit, mkbhd etc get the phones before they are out to the public?
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This is exactly why I've been holding off. I remember with the Nexus 5 there's this rattling issue. Got the phone minutes after it was released and unfortunately had it too but people who waited didn't. Hoping Oct 25th isn't to early to order though because I want that $50 google play credit.

This phone is so well priced, buying new is a no brainer. If $100 makes a difference to you then you are not in this phone Market.

Buying new isn't a problem. Just interested in customer and site reviews to see a in depth look at it
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...There have even been minor hardware changes in later batches...
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do you have any you can reference? i'm not aware of a single hardware change for any Nexus device since the 4. I think maybe the N1 had some changes, but the 5 and 6 (as far as I can recall) had 0 changes. everything was software based.
also, good luck to anyone thinking there's going to be any sort of a price drop on this phone. the 6 started high, so there was room to wiggle. yet i remember getting caught up in the hype of trying to acquire one, when everyone was sold out (i didn't).
the 5X/6P are the first TRUE cross-carrier models in the Nexus lineup. people have sworn that VZW would never see another Nexus device and here we are today. if you're worried about cost, i suggest the 5X. i'm mostly worried about Hauwei as a manufacturer than i am Nexus history. i'm expecting that everything everyone ever thought they knew about the Nexus brand went out the window with the 6 and i'm expecting the 5X/6P will prove that.
if there are going to be problems, it's going to be because of Android 6.0.

Big Cam said:
This phone is so well priced, buying new is a no brainer.
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Buying new Hauwei for $700+ is no brainer to you?
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ambervals6 said:
Buying new Hauwei for $700+ is no brainer to you?
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When I said this phone is so well priced it's a no brainer, I was referring to the starting price of $499, I should ahve been more clear about that. Even the 128GB version is only $650, so I'm not sure where you are getting $700?

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do you have any you can reference? i'm not aware of a single hardware change for any Nexus device since the 4. I think maybe the N1 had some changes, but the 5 and 6 (as far as I can recall) had 0 changes. everything was software based.
also, good luck to anyone thinking there's going to be any sort of a price drop on this phone. the 6 started high, so there was room to wiggle. yet i remember getting caught up in the hype of trying to acquire one, when everyone was sold out (i didn't).
the 5X/6P are the first TRUE cross-carrier models in the Nexus lineup. people have sworn that VZW would never see another Nexus device and here we are today. if you're worried about cost, i suggest the 5X. i'm mostly worried about Hauwei as a manufacturer than i am Nexus history. i'm expecting that everything everyone ever thought they knew about the Nexus brand went out the window with the 6 and i'm expecting the 5X/6P will prove that.
if there are going to be problems, it's going to be because of Android 6.0.
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I was thinking of the Nexus 4 when I wrote about hardware changes. Since I did not get the Nexus 5 or 6 I did not follow as closely what happened with them, so I don't know. They have also happened with some HTC phones in the past, to my knowledge. After a while some phones even getting upgrades, a memory option that wasn't there (though not really relevant for the 6P), even a newer chipset has happened (I know it's wishful thinking, but I have a fantasy that once the Snapdragon 820 hits the market the 6P will get an upgraded model) . So, though it may not be likely, hardware changes are not unheard of. I don't see the harm in waiting a couple months.
Also, there could be hardware issues that become apparent but do not get fixed. This has happened in the past with weird sounds in the earpiece, reception issues, noise cancellation defects (the Nexus 5 has a noise cancellation issue that was never fixed), etc. And of course, the Snapdragon 810 chipset has had a bad history of problems. Probably the 810 will be good enough in the 6P, but a lot of other manufacturers have claimed to solve its issues only to be proven wrong when their phones come out and get real world use. If the 810 in the 6P ends up being a overheating/throttling nightmare (which has a pretty good chance of happening given its poor track record in other phones, including even the new Xperia Z5 that was supposed to have found a solution) then I want to know that before I buy.
I don't think I said anything about there being a price drop, so I assume that was in response to someone else. Still, the price isn't going to go up, so there still is little harm in waiting and a lot more to be learned about the phone if one does wait. Plus you don't have to be the guinea pig for any hardware changes or (more likely) working out bugs in software. Early adopters are guinea pigs.

I decided to cancel my 6P order as well and wait. I've had this nexus 5 for two years and I am itching for a new device but a couple months this won't hurt me either.
I rather see it in person or at least see some in depth reviews on it and get the reviews from the general public as well. Also wait to see if the build quality is as it should be and if there are any first batch build issues that need to be worked out.
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Big Cam said:
When I said this phone is so well priced it's a no brainer, I was referring to the starting price of $499, I should ahve been more clear about that. Even the 128GB version is only $650, so I'm not sure where you are getting $700?
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There is this thing called TAX...not sure if you have heard of it lol
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