Single SIM -> dual SIM - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have seen folk saying you can put dual SIM firmware in a single SIM model and it works.
Where does the second SIM fit/what physical modifications need to be done?

WibblyW said:
So I have seen folk saying you can put dual SIM firmware in a single SIM model and it works.
Where does the second SIM fit/what physical modifications need to be done?
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There is a dummy plate covering the second sim slot, right above the first slot.

dictionary said:
There is a dummy plate covering the second sim slot, right above the first slot.
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So the plate is removed, and all that's required is an extra SIM card holder?

WibblyW said:
So the plate is removed, and all that's required is an extra SIM card holder?
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Extra sim card. You don't need a holder, same like the first sim slot. You'll just plop it into the tray.

To further discuss what dictionary was saying: all Moto X Play SIM card trays hold 2 SIMS - The difference between the two is that the single SIM models leave the factory with a plastic insert put in place with a gooey adhesive where the second SIM fits. The contacts are all ready there for it when the tray is inserted to the body. By carefully removing the insert & adhesive you are set for putting a second SIM into the Play.
HOWEVER you still need to flash the appropriate firmware to complete the transformation. There are more than one thread discussing the software side of things. FWIW.

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Nexus 4 not recognizing sim card

I printed out a template and cut my old sim card from Rogers. It's activated and the back of it says HSDPA.
I have tried inserting the sim while my phone was off. I turned it on and it still said no sim card. Do I need a new sim card?
One side of the gold chip touches the metal tray. Does that make a difference?
emmui said:
I printed out a template and cut my old sim card from Rogers. It's activated and the back of it says HSDPA.
I have tried inserting the sim while my phone was off. I turned it on and it still said no sim card. Do I need a new sim card?
One side of the gold chip touches the metal tray. Does that make a difference?
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I chopped my tmobile sim card (from G1 days) and the gold chip was larger than the replacement sim that I got (G2X). I popped the newer sim into my G2X and activated. Then removed and used the template to chop and it detected immediately one placed in the tray.
Sounds like you need a newer card to me.
Hope this helps.
emmui said:
I printed out a template and cut my old sim card from Rogers. It's activated and the back of it says HSDPA.
I have tried inserting the sim while my phone was off. I turned it on and it still said no sim card. Do I need a new sim card?
One side of the gold chip touches the metal tray. Does that make a difference?
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Yes you need to get a new sim card,
The problem with Nexus 4 sim tray is that it's metal and not insulated like iPhone 4,
This also was the cause for data drop on my side, I had my sim card replaced after my first one just completely not working anymore. And just so it won't happen again, I took a thin piece of paper to cover part of the sim card just so it doesn't touch the metal tray on both sides
emmui said:
I printed out a template and cut my old sim card from Rogers. It's activated and the back of it says HSDPA.
I have tried inserting the sim while my phone was off. I turned it on and it still said no sim card. Do I need a new sim card?
One side of the gold chip touches the metal tray. Does that make a difference?
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My card was cut and seemed top work fine until it sit if popped outs place one day, took it it and grinded away the edgy bits that the cutter left behind so it was smooth and got nicely into the tray. Benn working ever since (fingers crossed!)

Double sim packaged as single sim?

Hello there.
My friend has this phone and although I haven't had it in my hands, he says that the plastic bezel covers the second sim tray in the single sim version. Would it be possible to reflash it so it reads both sims? Additionally, would this work if I only exchanged the sim tray module for the double sim one?
jamdzu said:
Hello there.
My friend has this phone and although I haven't had it in my hands, he says that the plastic bezel covers the second sim tray in the single sim version. Would it be possible to reflash it so it reads both sims? Additionally, would this work if I only exchanged the sim tray module for the double sim one?
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Have a look at here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/dual-sim-slots-xt1625-single-sim-variant-t3549126
Your friend should try to reflash it and report I think we need some testers first.

Galaxy s4 i9505 sd card issue

My galaxy s4 i9505 phone recognizes the sim card. But it wont recognize my 32gb sandisk sd card.
And also after connecting it to a windows pc with proper drivers with kies installed, pc shows "device descriptor request failed, usb device not recognized"
Please help :crying:
Do other MicroSD cards work in the slot? Has this MicroSD card slot or the SIM tray been replaced before?
Try some alcohol on the card slot and see if that helps. If it doesn't, you may have to replace the card slot and SIM tray, both of which are on the same flexible circuit board. The replacement itself is inexpensive - about $10 - and can be done relatively quickly by you without having to take it to someone to service. One caveat: if the card slot and SIM tray has not been replaced before, make sure to peel the small rectangle of foam off the connector of the old tray and place it on the new one. The foam ensures the connector doesn't lift up under ordinary use, which can lead to inconsistent performance.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Do other MicroSD cards work in the slot? Has this MicroSD card slot or the SIM tray been replaced before?
Try some alcohol on the card slot and see if that helps. If it doesn't, you may have to replace the card slot and SIM tray, both of which are on the same flexible circuit board. The replacement itself is inexpensive - about $10 - and can be done relatively quickly by you without having to take it to someone to service. One caveat: if the card slot and SIM tray has not been replaced before, make sure to peel the small rectangle of foam off the connector of the old tray and place it on the new one. The foam ensures the connector doesn't lift up under ordinary use, which can lead to inconsistent performance.
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Thank you very much. I recently got this phone and I don't think the previous user has made any replacements. I tried several mico sd cards but none of them I found working. I'll try what you said. Thanks a lot :good:

Stuck SIM tray

hello guys, yesterday I was trying to switch my sd card and what I didnt expect, I couldnt remove the tray.
I thought maybe sim or sd was stuck, so after a while, I was able to gently remove it with a knife.
As it turned out, that wasnt a problem and I still cant remove it fully...
ye...why does this have to happen... anyone have some trick maybe? Or experienced the same problem?
Thanks
It's possible that your SIM card (or a storage card) has become disloged, ie; is not laying flat in the tray. I think the best you can do is to gently push the tray back in and lay it flat face up and see if you can shake it a bit to get it to settle into the tray. If that does not work, I would take it somewhere for repairs.
Just cant believe this really...
I managed to break it, so the stuck piece is still in my phone, but now I am at least able to put a sim and sd card into it.
Contacts little bent, but its how it is and the phone works. Will have to ask about warranty service on this, I am really curious, what will they say...
So be aware, even thing like this can happen...
Yes, this SIM tray is very fragile. You are not the first.
Exact same thing happened to me. I believe there is some clip or contact that detects when the Sim tray is inserted or ejected and it gets caught there. They used a flimsy plastic Sim tray and it breaks in the same place.
The SD card and Sim tray still work. Just have to reset the phone when you change it for the phone to detect the changes.
Happened to me exactly like yours...i used a very this bit of plastic, with a bit of blue tack very firmly attached to the plastic and gently, VERY gently pushed it in to the sim/sd card slot and only took 2 attempts but the bit that broke off came out!!
Then went on Ebay and got a brand new sim/sd card tray and voila!
Cost me £4.50 for new sim tray, but working perfect now.
Matt
Any ideas on extracting w/o breaking the tray?
I have the exact same issue as the OP (before his tray broke).
Does anyone know any tricks to extract a stuck tray without breaking it?
edit: nm. Broke the tray. Took no force at all.
So the issue here is one of the SIM reader pins is sticking up and is catching the tray. Trying carefully to bend it back where it belongs.
edit #2: Can't bend the pin back w/o disassembling the phone. Going to borrow a heat gun.
matthew33 said:
Happened to me exactly like yours...i used a very this bit of plastic, with a bit of blue tack very firmly attached to the plastic and gently, VERY gently pushed it in to the sim/sd card slot and only took 2 attempts but the bit that broke off came out!!
Then went on Ebay and got a brand new sim/sd card tray and voila!
Cost me £4.50 for new sim tray, but working perfect now.
Matt
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Hey there Matt, I got exact same problem, tray got stuck and I rushly pull left over broken tray. I replace the sim tray but now sdcard not working. It is detected and attempt to format the card but fail at 20%. I'm still try to repeatly removing sim tray before I take it to LG.
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samo147 said:
Exact same thing happened to me. I believe there is some clip or contact that detects when the Sim tray is inserted or ejected and it gets caught there. They used a flimsy plastic Sim tray and it breaks in the same place.
The SD card and Sim tray still work. Just have to reset the phone when you change it for the phone to detect the changes.
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So you meant when replace that sim tray, you need to hard reset so it will detect the sdcard? Because I have sim tray replaced, sim worked but sdcard wasnt, it keep fail to format at 20%.
You must have damaged some pins. For me all my.pins are intact and the broken piece is still in the phone. I have to do a hard reset for mine if I want to change the Sim or SD card
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You must have damaged some pins.
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Same here. Damaged SIM reader pin. Tore the phone down and it's not clear if it's repairable or not.
Regardless, I'm writing off my G6 (just 1 month after I got it). I'll pickup a V20 for now, so I don't have to look at another SIM tray.
samo147 said:
You must have damaged some pins. For me all my.pins are intact and the broken piece is still in the phone. I have to do a hard reset for mine if I want to change the Sim or SD card
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I went to LG and they ask for mainboard replacement cost $400, what a joke! Looks like they wouldnt replace only damaged part.
Even if you replaced it. It won't be long before it breaks again in the same spot... If it was a metal Sim tray it would be a lot better. I'm going to avoid LG phones from now on.
evan_g4 said:
Hey there Matt, I got exact same problem, tray got stuck and I rushly pull left over broken tray. I replace the sim tray but now sdcard not working. It is detected and attempt to format the card but fail at 20%. I'm still try to repeatly removing sim tray before I take it to LG.
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So you meant when replace that sim tray, you need to hard reset so it will detect the sdcard? Because I have sim tray replaced, sim worked but sdcard wasnt, it keep fail to format at 20%.
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Happened to me AGAIN yesterday mate, now, like you...my SD card no longer works..ARRGHH!!!
Matt
Bad design
I have had 3 LG G6s, each one has had this happen. It sticks in the corner by the sd card contacts. After it catches it will not read SIM until i get a new tray. I think there may be some sort of pressure switch. I wish LG would replace it with a G8x...
Even the models w/o dual sim capability have contacts for a second sim. These rub against and can get stuck at the tiny pads on the underside of many mSD cards. This will cause the tray to get stuck in the frame for additional friction. If this happens to me again i will try to pull the tray out with some adhesive tape to be able to apply force in the middle or at the left side, where the sd sits, instead of the opposite side via the hole.
Especially the newer, bigger mSDs seem to have such pads, none of my old ones has one, that's why i didn't test whether you could sadely remove the pad. Probably there's the bare flash die underneath.
I solved the problem...its called the LG V30!
Love it!
Matt
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cp1024 said:
I have had 3 LG G6s, each one has had this happen. It sticks in the corner by the sd card contacts. After it catches it will not read SIM until i get a new tray. I think there may be some sort of pressure switch. I wish LG would replace it with a G8x...
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Hi, I got the same problem. The tray broke down only for the SD card and SIM slot is intact. But the phone does not anymore recognize SIM card. So do you think that I did not damage the reader and it's only a matter of getting a new SIM holder?
If you ran into the issue with a sticky mSD, the contacts for the second sim msy be bent/broken/shorted. Whereas only a short may prohibit use of the primary sim slot. And the contacts may not even be soldered to the pcb on a single sim phone like p870. Otherwise just the flimsy plastic tray broke. On my Iphone 4s it was made of metal. And the lever to push the thing outwards was centered and not to the right side, which makes even pushing out an empty tray difficult.
I finally got replacement tray and can confirm that SIM reader started working again. So it indeed seems that there is a pressure switch and it did not activate when the SD card compartment was damaged. No I just worry do I dare to remove sim tray ever again.
My current 128GB mSD in the p870 has a sticker on the back like most mSDs at higher (32/64GB and up) capacities, but this time there's no friction with the useless contacts for dual sim.
But anyway, once the tray has been pushed out slightly, you have to try to grab and pull from the opposite side while pushing the pin in, otherwise there's high friction.

How to physically mount a SIM card on the tray.

So before I go ahead and bust my SD/SIM card tray I figured I'd ask here. So From what I understand once the tray is removed one side is dedicated to SD cards and the flip side is where a SIM card would fit but there appears to be this black plastic piece that is preventing the SIM from fitting properly.
I've lightly pulled on that piece but it doesn't feel like it supposed to come out so I guess my question is, can that black plastic piece be removed or is there another way to set the SIM card on the tray?
So I did watch that video prior to posting here and while I found it helpful it doesn't mention anything about wether that black piece is removable or not. I guess logic should dictate that since it didn't appear that the guy in the video has that piece on his tray it must come off.
Can anyone give me a thumbs up on this before I go ripping pieces off the card tray lol? Thanks again everyone.

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