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1. Release Q1 2011
2. Dual core 1.5ghz snapdragon
3. 1GB ram
4. At least 960x640 res super-amoled display
5. Touch screen which actually works
6. New version of android that that will be exclusive to the device for at least 2 months with some super cool features such as 1080p out via hdmi port
7. 10mp+ camera
8. Built by Motorola or HTC
Google.......make it happen
Sincerely,
Everyone, ever
Wont be any Nexus Two,,
My expectation is for it to not exist.
Rusty! said:
My expectation is for it to not exist.
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^ this. Sadly.
1. Your choice of 16GB or 32GB internal memory
2. 960x640 high res display
3. "Fast App Switching"
4. Front facing camera for using "TimeToFace"
5. iOS Froyo
6. Your choice of two carriers: AT&T or whatever they use in the seventh circle of Hell after you've been decapitated.
They can call it the iNexus 2
Well, it might not be the Nexus Two, but I cant imagine Google never making another Dev Phone. So perhaps these should be expectations for the next Dev phone.
I'm hoping Eric was lieng and all, i remember them saying they wouldnt release a phone but they soon did. I do hope they make an N2.
obstacles can kill said:
1. Your choice of 16GB or 32GB internal memory
2. 960x640 high res display
3. "Fast App Switching"
4. Front facing camera for using "TimeToFace"
5. iOS Froyo
6. Your choice of two carriers: AT&T or whatever they use in the seventh circle of Hell after you've been decapitated.
They can call it the iNexus 2
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No doubt. It looks like it was ripped from an iPhone ad. There's a time and a place where phone specs are over kill. Not that none of the above wouldn't be welcome... but as far as the next Nexus... well the first Nexus is still awesome.
I haven't put this damn phone down hardly at all. And its plenty fast. I think at this point, the software needs to play catch up to the high phone specs.
Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
Eric said they will not make one, and there is no reason to make one.
Android was pushed much farther and much faster then they anticipated, they have no reason to make one more Android developer phone. There are tons of awesome android phones out there already.
You'd think after a CEO tells you it won't happen, u wouldn't open threads about Nexus Two.
There will be no nexus 2 with the lamer specs, too conservative.
Perhaps the nexus 2 will ber a tablet computer based on gingerbread and nvidia tegra.
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DarkDvr said:
Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
Eric said they will not make one, and there is no reason to make one.
Android was pushed much farther and much faster then they anticipated, they have no reason to make one more Android developer phone. There are tons of awesome android phones out there already.
You'd think after a CEO tells you it won't happen, u wouldn't open threads about Nexus Two.
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BUT, that does not mean that Motorola or HTC (independently) makes a Nexus Two (not a dev phone) but a continuation of the IP.
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Nexus 2 will not happen. It's a fact.
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Sorry to be pedantic but how can something in the future be fact? What you mean to say is that you don't think it will happen based on what Eric Schmidt has said.
I'm pretty sure they said they'd never get into the phone business too. Maybe Eric's keeping his cards very close to his chest and it's all a ruse.
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Why in the world would Motorola jump onto Google's trademark and start making "Nexus phones"???
It's like saying "Oh yeah, toyota no longer makes supras, but maybe we'll see a BMW Supra"... seriously.
Motorola will continue making "Droids", HTC will make their usual stuff, Samsung will push Galaxy line.
What's so bad about the fact that you have a special edition, one-of-a-kind developer phone that was released in limited quantities for a limited purpose, and then stopped selling? FFS, I was very happy when I saw that Nexus One sales will stop. In a year from now, I'll be selling mine in a perfect condition for BIG $$$$.
I see only positive in the fact that Nexus line is over. Heck, admit it, in a year or so, there will be much better phones than nexus for everyday use.
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Why in the world would Motorola jump onto Google's trademark and start making "Nexus phones"???
It's like saying "Oh yeah, toyota no longer makes supras, but maybe we'll see a BMW Supra"... seriously.
Motorola will continue making "Droids", HTC will make their usual stuff, Samsung will push Galaxy line.
What's so bad about the fact that you have a special edition, one-of-a-kind developer phone that was released in limited quantities for a limited purpose, and then stopped selling? FFS, I was very happy when I saw that Nexus One sales will stop. In a year from now, I'll be selling mine in a perfect condition for BIG $$$$.
I see only positive in the fact that Nexus line is over. Heck, admit it, in a year or so, there will be much better phones than nexus for everyday use.
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I dont believe it will be easy to sell our old Nexi (Yeah, thats right, I said Nexi). Think about it, would you buy a G1 for premium bucks now or the latest and greatest phone instead. Most people wanting the Nexus now are people like us that need the newest hardware every 3 months.
My prediction is that the next dev phone will not focus on faster, but focus on lower power. Increasing battery life has to be a cocern for them. 1ghz is plenty fast as we all know, but we could benefit from more efficient processors running at the same speed we have now.
Of course the same speed isn't as much fun.
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My prediction is that the next dev phone will not focus on faster, but focus on lower power. Increasing battery life has to be a cocern for them. 1ghz is plenty fast as we all know, but we could benefit from more efficient processors running at the same speed we have now.
Of course the same speed isn't as much fun.
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in the same way 640kb was more than enough for memory? Please
I love how everyone thinks their nexus ones are suddenly "collectors items" now, you guys are almost as bad as iphone fanboys
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Hardware of nexus one is just more than enough.. they need to improve the usability of android os even more i guess
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google should make nexus 2 like apple made iphone 3g 3gs 4g there should be n1 n2 n3 with a better hardware and software
Google said there won't be a continuation in the Nexus lineup, sorry folks.
Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...
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Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...
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while your arguments are valid, you do not have any proof.
It makes no sense. The Google's goal is to reach more people with advertising and by closing Android's source it would limit their target. The current system, tho it's not perfect for updates, it's the most profitable for Google.
I don't say that the next Nexus phone won't be manufactured by Motorola, but i srsly doubt that Google will close the doors to the other OEM's. Point being, Goggle will keep Android open sourced and will use Motorola for their patents. Using Moto to build Google experience phones is just an added bonus.
This has to be the most ridiculously illogical post I have seen on these forums. Google choose HTC initially because it was the big player in android, then they choose samsung when it had become the biggest player.
They might choose some other OEM this time but it has nothing to do with the series of 2 phones. You talk as if nexus phones have been made for decades with new OEM being chosen every 2 years lol.
Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.
and lets not forget about the google ion, that was a google developers phone made by htc http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/google-ion-hands-on-and-unboxing/
Lol. This makes no sense.
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Lol. This makes no sense.
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Youre right, HTC makes Sense
Companies send contestant devices in and Google picks the winner. Nothing more.
Motorola almost won last year.
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PoorCollegeGuy said:
Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.
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the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?
Google has already said they don't choose how many each company will make. Each company submits a phone for evaluation as the next Nexus and they decide which it'll be. Therefore, the next Nexus could be from Samsung again, Asus, HTC, Acer, Huawei, Motorola, or really any other manufacturer quite honestly. At the end of the day, I'd be quite surprised if it was anyone but the Big 3 (Sammy, HTC, and Motorola) or Asus since all 4 make the better, higher end phones. I COULD also see LG being a viable candidate, but their offerings so far have, to me, been lackluster and, whilst Sammy doesn't have Moto-quality builds of aluminium and such, LG seems even lower than Sammy build quality-wise.
Build quality- Moto>HTC>Asus>Sammy>LG
Screen quality- Sammy>HTC>LG>Asus>Moto
Internals- Sammy (more cutting edge, Exynos), Asus (Tegra 3), and HTC (also Tegra 3 and Snapdragon S4) all win here.
HTC also made the ION developer phone, the G2 was also a Google stock phone, etc, so there goes your 2 phones theory. And i explained you already why making Android Closed Source would be a bad move to Google.
Just because you don't see adds in your phone doesn't mean the other thousands of people do the same. Google is getting their money from advertising, so they need the biggest audience target as possible. And where did you get the theory about the 10 years SO?
Symbian for example was first released in 2001 and still sells like hotcakes on dumbphones. Windows Mobile was first released also around 2000 and just recently got discontinued due to windows phone 7 (granted it wasn't selling). iOS will probably suffer a UI change but it still will make a strong competitor for the next years and Android has so much space to improve and is in so many markets besides smartphones, that it won't go away anytime soon.
What's next just depends on the best technology offers at the best price.
Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?
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Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".
BrianDigital said:
Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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Nexus line are the guideline for each OS.
Nexus One - 2.1/2.2
Nexus S - 2.3
Galaxy Nexus - ICS
i predict the next gen nexus specs: everyone please save/bookmark this post.
1.5GHz quad core processor OR 2GHz Exynos 5250 processor
2GB RAM
4.65" 720p HD Super AMOLED+ OR HD YOUM Display
Android 5.0 Jellybean
7 - 7.9mm thin
2000 - 2500mAh battery
120-130g
announcing in january 2013!
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Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".
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your link is dead... and android according to wiki is from 2005... and notice no one had google android before 2008 when the first android device ever was sold the htc g1 aka the dream which was a developers phone because well it was the only android phone for a while... so no other phone was their until after the g1 was launched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
so again android is poised to be in the decline soon.. right now is its peak years and soon it will decline... look at how long gb took to overcome fryo...
Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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Sorry but where in your ass are you pulling all this "proof" out of? Lol not to be mean or anything....
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Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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just because someone sells the most does not mean they are the best. it could be that samsung has carriers that offer their phones dirt cheap like the prevail on boost mobile... also look at general motors company... alot of crap products but they do outsell all the others... but does that mean they are they best.. no they offer a ton of rebates and low prices.... samsung does have some great phones like the galaxy s line but only a few.
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a.../sony-admits-our-phones-can-t-compete-1113159
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http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a.../sony-admits-our-phones-can-t-compete-1113159
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its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
Off course it can't compete right now without a single handset 100% Sony.
What we have available is Sony Ericsson's devices with Sony brand.
Next year will be the year.
I really need a decent display with a lot of power under the hood.
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bala_gamer said:
its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
They might not compete with iphone5 or Galaxy S3 but not all people are looking for these high-end phones. Not everybody are flashaolic nerds like me. I know a lot of people who still use their phone as a.... PHONE!!! In this category Sony is still a good choice for a phone.(Even I never owned one)
I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
If that happens, maybe Sony will take Samsung's place. Sony devices are in fact, powerful with great support (Also AOSP)
And the system is 200% cleaner than TouchWiz.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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hahahaha....
very well said...witty and true! :laugh:
I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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I dont really know.....they should make phone to rival sgs4 or iphone 5s/6....its nonsense to rival sgs3 (when its going to be year old flagship)...it is still going to sell well, but still...everybody says how sucky samsung devs are....but idk, they gave us some sweet features-sony should follow that step, high end hw<good software, today in my opinion....
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it's nonsense to rival iphone. Android doesn't rival, Android beats.
If I am not wrong (stopped stalking for latest releases after buying the S3), Sony still doesn't have a quad core flagship, so if you were indeed a Sony lover you would have already accepted the fact that right now they don't aim for specs (like Samsung does obviously) and like to provide a nice quality phone with decent price, specs and software (updates + aosp release). This is not at all a bad thing and I like where Sony are headed in the Android world.
Sony has cut back a lot, austerity for them due to a loose wallet subsidising blueray with the PS3. Imagine SGS3 costing 20% of its production costs
They hardly make anything themselves now. It's like Honda giving up and rebranding Kia's instead. Karma me thinks, for Sony Music being fascist psychopathic murdering scum
bala_gamer said:
its poor to admit such things publicly , each phone has their own advantage.
s3- fast and cutting edge features
iphone - reliable
nexus - google experience
sony - best looking phones
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Why does everyone use iphone and reliable in the same sentence? What's not reliable with an android phone? If anything, an iphone is much more unreliable (not hardware-wise, more like software-wise. Have you ever actually owned an iDevice in real life? If you did, you'd notice there are a lot more freezes and app crashes than with android.
Also, how can it be reliable if it doesn't even have proper multitasking?
Sony's 2013 top devices will have S4 PRO,5" 1080p screens,2gb RAM,water resistance,dragontrail glass,Exmor RS 16.2 mpx and 13mpx with third generation dual LED and the sexy look that only Sony know how to do...
But we just can wait with the best device in our hands right now.
If Sony really puts some weight behind these words, and they use the ST-Ericsson NovaThor SoCs next year, they will blow everything out of the water. The STE processors will be manufactured by Samsung, so they will have arguably the best mobile manufacturing process out there for the moment, while having the ImgTech G6xx0's GPUs which seem to look pretty unchallenged in performance.
Up until now all of Sony's devices were just outdated by a good more than half a year. In the mobile space where we basically have 1 year long product cycles, that's half of a product lifetime. The Xperia T is a nice phone, but at this point in time it's basically the same internal hardware as the One XL/S and NA S3's, which are 6+ months old. Don't get me started on the previous "flagships".
Let's hope they can deliver. They have the hardware available to do it.
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I agree Sony is by far the best looking and best screen android phone, but the miss some points like locked bootloaders and not so good cameras.
I had a xperia s and the device from specs was very nice, from specs I would prefer it as the S3 processor beast. But then with the use you miss important things like USB on the go (not workink but promised) and the 12 mp cam was a piece of SH....
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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Funny you mention that Sony cameras are not so good when the SIII and Iphone 4s uses a Sony sensor.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/01/chipw...sung-galaxy-siii-sports-the-iphone-4s-camera/
Anyway, in the flagship they can´t compete, shure, but in the rest of the range, it has the best ones.
I currently have the SIII but below that Sony does better than Samnsung, in price/quality, at least in my country.
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I can tell you that my xperia neo takes better photos then my s2 and my former xperia s. But not better then the s3. This was tested with the 4 phones in the same places and in same conditions. I m a sony fan. Allways had sony Ericsson phones. And tell you thay the xperia s is a great deception. I m not a great fan from samsung I had some y op devices and allqays had problems with them. But one I ensure you. S3 is by far better then any sony. Last I tell you if the xperia s had some features that it could have without problems, like otg usb, external sd, removable battery, and decent software for cam, I had prefere it has the s3.
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You spelt "totally locked up and uncustomisable" wrongly.
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thats another part of the story
I tried so hard analyzing but now at last I know their reasoning behind releasing Xperia S, Xperia P, Xperia U, Xperia Acro S, Xperia T, and whatever Xperia (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ) phone they released this year. All along and all this time, those phones were meant to challenge Galaxy S2, HTC Sensation, iPhone4s and other phones from last year! What kind of mindset is that for a company? What have you become Sony? Argh!
The iPhone's implementation of panorama is a great example on why Apple are so good at creating user experiences for the lowest common denominator.
Yes, that's a nice way of saying it's made for stupid people. But making things for stupid people requires very smart ideas.
Hi there
We all must be hearing a lot of rumors about the end of Nexus Line by Google and Launch of Silver in upcoming year, by 2015 according to sources!
Well, according to my knowledge, the Nexus was introduced to increase the number of phones/tablets running Android in fast growing market which was dominated by Ipad/Iphone. As Google earns its 97% of profit due to advertisements, it was inevitable that if Google can increase the number of devices used, it would certainly mean more profit due to coaxing more users to its services and advertisement. This meant that although Google made some profit on Nexus devices but its main aim was to increase the android devices using Google Services like Youtube, Gmail, Google+.
Also, it was a way to provide "pure android experience" to the users free from all freezing which was mostly due to customization of android by different manufacturers.
Devices in the Nexus line do not have manufacturer or wireless carrier modifications to Android (such as custom graphical user interfaces), and have an unlockable bootloader to allow further development and end-user modification.Nexus devices are the first Android devices to receive updates to the operating system and recommended by the Android Open Source Project for Android software development.
PROJECT SILVER
Silver line basically is a way to control Samsung influence by Google. The concept is that if a device fulfills certain hardware and software criterias, they would be labelled as SILVER. The Google would ensure that these devices are first to be updated as Google would itself provide the expertise required in development of the android software. Not just that, Google would also give some subsidies which would ensure that if a developer wants a device to be silver, it would be earning more profit than a non silver device. The silver devices would also be kept in special cases in shops to attract more customers. It would also mean that any manufacturer around the world can take part in Silver project and the domination of Samsung, Sony, LG, HTC, Motorola and other big manufacturers would be directly challenged by Google.
This means we would be seeing phones which would be top-notch from small manufactures like MI (XIAOMI), OPPO.
In this regard, Google would also ensure that its services are kept while custom services provided by the manufacturer are kept to minimum!
Now the Google already has a big share in the market by Android's influence and thus it can still earn its profits by advertisement which is about 97%. Thus it does not need to put more nexus devices out there as it is directly challenged by Samsung. Now the competition has begun within Android itself which was with other OS before. The introduction of TIZEN by Samsung is a direct challenge to Android. Tizen's biggest strength in my opinion is that if you programme an app in tizen, you can use the same app in IOS , android and other platforms by just changing very little code!
The only thing I am not sure about is the price of Silver Devices. I am sure there would a tough competition but would that mean we would get the devices as cheap as Nexus line. We can not be sure as it could happen. Suppose the latest Oppo phone is labelled as silver and is selling for 300$, other manufacturers would be forced to keep their price down as nothing separates two Silver devices but we can not be sure as i mentioned before!
WHY I PREFER A NEXUS
I prefer Nexus devices over all others, not due to their development friendly nature but also they provide quick updates, top notch specifications at a very reasonable price.
Plus, Nexus devices are certain to get all CUSTOM ROMS and development is very quick compared to many other devices!
They also keep manufacturers to keep their price in check and they give you a pure android experience which I am not sure Project Silver can promise.
I just hope the Nexus line is always kept by Google. If they can keep on releasing one phone (4.7 inch) and two tablets ( 8 and 10) every year at least with their Silver Project and see if more consumers prefer Silver or Nexus and leave the choice to the consumers!
What do you prefer and give your reasons why you think it would be a good thing or a bad thing if Google gives up Nexus and starts Silver Project?
Update: Nexus is going to stay!! Hip Hip Hooray!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...ay-but-Android-Silver-is-in-the-works_id57593
If affordability isn't hit I find no problem with silver program. But I don't think it wouldn't.
At least we will have motorola.
I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.
This is good since the Nexus line isn't priced fairly world wide. A 16GB Nexus 5 cost like 550 USD in my country (Indonesia) and there's no 32GB version avaliable.
However, the Silver Line shouldn't just apply to high end phones, it should apply to all Android device if this project is to be fair.
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maidangisme said:
I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.
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All MI products is taking my breath away with its awesome UI, price and hardware !
For now I'm not sure. Not all details about the silver platform are known. I wouldn't have a problem with GPE like devices sold as the Silver line. The downfall will come with the, probably, increased prices of the Silver devices. At least that would be a huge let down for me.
Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.
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Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.
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Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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AnyRom said:
Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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True, but if the devices are not in stock... hopefully they can find a way to keep up with the demand.
The Mi3 64GB is only recently in stock if I'm correct, only the 16GB version was sold it small batches.
My problem with this silver program is that price will surely not be nexus levels and I doubt these silver edition phones will have the freedom that nexuses have. Just like Dev editions.... most of which still have restrictions you don't see on a nexus. Example, flashing any bootloader you want, no matter what version.
So I'm not very excited about this potential new direction.
Also, it will split up the current nexus community over multiple devices.
I see silver as mostly good and I am hoping this could put pressure on OEMS to update their phones in a truly timely manner. If this happens I would jump right back on the note bandwagon. I mostly curse touchwiz but they did integrate TW very nicely with the note series...I miss my spen
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I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.
Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:
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Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:
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Well for most of us in Europe/ US , we usually take up contracts ! Like I can get an S5 with 2 year contract with free phone/calls/texts/Data for about £45 a month! Usually this is not a case for many others around the world, they have to pay in FULL which makes Nexus price more attractive than Play Editions!
Moreover, the price difference between Nexus and Play Edition is about 150-250 dollars which is a lot . . .
I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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phonearena edited the post and dismissed a new nexus 10.
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We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.
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They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.
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Cheers for the correction, there were so many rumours involving a Google nexus 8 and 10 that I'm still confused
I'm still hoping for a nexus 8. My niece would love my n7 2013 and a n8 would be the perfect excuse for me to pass it to her and get one.
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I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.
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same :/
Maybe not a very exciting answer, but where tech is concerned (and all the rumours that precede any new product) I am a "I'll wait and see" kind of guy. Also, I see no real reason to rush out and buy the latest and greatest all the time what I have is serving its purpose
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/google-ends-major-os-support-for-the-nexus-phones-and-pixel-tablet/
Google is really disgusting... The price of Pixel C is almost equal to iPad pro, but the functional updats is only 2 years.
The Tegra X1 is still more powerful than most Android SoCs, but no support any more.
Google has wasted Pixel C's hardware.
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Google is really disgusting... The price of Pixel C is almost equal to iPad pro, but the functional updats is only 2 years.
The Tegra X1 is still more powerful than most Android SoCs, but no support any more.
Google has wasted Pixel C's hardware.
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I hate how right you are. Maybe they aren't putting in the time just because of sales volume? I am sure there will be some good roms for it.
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Google is really disgusting... The price of Pixel C is almost equal to iPad pro, but the functional updats is only 2 years.
The Tegra X1 is still more powerful than most Android SoCs, but no support any more.
Google has wasted Pixel C's hardware.
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Only the GPU of Tegra X1 is still superior today. Its CPU and RAM performance are 20 to 50 percent lower than most flagship Android devices of the past year.
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Only the GPU of Tegra X1 is still superior today. Its CPU and RAM performance are 20 to 50 percent lower than most flagship Android devices of the past year.
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Probably correct, but so what? Is that sufficient excuse to drop it? I bet P would run on much more humble configuration.
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Google is really disgusting... The price of Pixel C is almost equal to iPad pro, but the functional updats is only 2 years.
The Tegra X1 is still more powerful than most Android SoCs, but no support any more.
Google has wasted Pixel C's hardware.
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You do realize that the length of support is published years in advance, don't you?
Whining just because Google is doing what it said it would do is plain silly.
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You do realize that the length of support is published years in advance, don't you?
Whining just because Google is doing what it said it would do is plain silly.
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Google didn't publish the life cycle of Pixel C. Only Nexus family and Pixel phones.
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Google didn't publish the life cycle of Pixel C. Only Nexus family and Pixel phones.
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Oh goodness. My mistake.
Google never explicitly stated that the Pixel C would be exempt from it normal update schedule. That should immediately let the world know that it would receive unending support.
Dumb.
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Oh goodness. My mistake.
Google never explicitly stated that the Pixel C would be exempt from it normal update schedule. That should immediately let the world know that it would receive unending support.
Dumb.
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So why should anyone buy a Pixel tablet? If that's Google's business model for tablets they might as well (if they haven't done already) jack it in. Buying tablets is different to upgrading your phone every couple of years.
I am hoping to have ChromeOS instead of Android P on Pixel C, since ChromeOS for tablets is on the way...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/2/1...date-android-tablets-operating-system-replace
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Google is really disgusting... The price of Pixel C is almost equal to iPad pro, but the functional updats is only 2 years.
The Tegra X1 is still more powerful than most Android SoCs, but no support any more.
Google has wasted Pixel C's hardware.
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Totally agree with your comments on this.. The Pixel C was a total waste, for the most part mine just collects dust, and maybe that is why no further support? Just not a viable form factor?
I had three units under warranty with the third finally working. By the time I got a working unit that did not reboot or have power issues the device felt dated. Maybe a fresh coat of paint with P would help, but I doubt it.
I love my Pixel C, I use it every day as part of my business activities, and of an evening I'll use it to play some games, consume some Youtube videos, Netflix etc.
I'm disappointed that Google aren't replacing it with another tablet device, as there is very little 'business-class' devices in the Android world
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So why should anyone buy a Pixel tablet? If that's Google's business model for tablets they might as well (if they haven't done already) jack it in. Buying tablets is different to upgrading your phone every couple of years.
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Nobody's stopping you from starting a company and raise funds via Kickstarter to sell a tablet with infinite software lifecycle support. Why don't you do that and show the disgusting company how it's done?
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Nobody's stopping you from starting a company and raise funds via Kickstarter to sell a tablet with infinite software lifecycle support. Why don't you do that and show the disgusting company how it's done?
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Grow up! I was asking a valid question as to why would anyone buy a £500 tablet if it stopped getting updates after two years. The Pixel was made to try and convert iPad users to switch to Android in my opinion, and it may put people off from doing that, as Apple don't stop supporting their tablets after two years.
I suppose we can just flash Lineage once that upgrades to P?
Its crappy that our weird underlying OS (for want of a better word) and lack of popularity means a tiny dev scene, but that's not Google's fault directly.
They did give us 2.5 years of updates from release date. That's not so bad. All in all my Pixel C works as advertised, so not sure what everyone's so angry about.
Wonder if this has anything to do with it?
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/rip-android-tablets-google-wiped-slate-clean-3480196
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Grow up! I was asking a valid question as to why would anyone buy a £500 tablet if it stopped getting updates after two years.
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10s of millions do just that with Samsungs - you only get 2 years updates for even the top end S range, and they cost a lot more than £500!
Not having Android P doesn't make it any less of a device than having Nougat or Oreo. All the apps work and carry on doing what they've always done. MS Word or YouTube or BBC News or Twitter don't work any differently in Nougat or Oreo and wouldn't under P.
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10s of millions do just that with Samsungs - you only get 2 years updates for even the top end S range, and they cost a lot more than £500!
Not having Android P doesn't make it any less of a device than having Nougat or Oreo. All the apps work and carry on doing what they've always done. MS Word or YouTube or BBC News or Twitter don't work any differently in Nougat or Oreo and wouldn't under P.
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In that case why update any device? We get updates to improve the experience as well as security for your device. Are you still on Eclair?
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Grow up! I was asking a valid question as to why would anyone buy a £500 tablet if it stopped getting updates after two years. The Pixel was made to try and convert iPad users to switch to Android in my opinion, and it may put people off from doing that, as Apple don't stop supporting their tablets after two years.
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A question that has been answered many many times in these hallowed halls. Plenty of people buy Samsung devices that don't get update after 2 years. Everyone likes to compare with Apple. You do realize Apple designs their own hardware soups to nuts right? Google designed their devices based on SoC from other companies. If those companies don't provide updated drivers to work with the new OS, how do you think Google is going to make it work reliably. And before you go saying "There are 3rd party ROMs that does that!" Ask yourself if that ROM doesn't work, what kind of guaranteed support do you get? If it bricks your device, what is your recourse?
Telling you to go start a company that will support a device infinitely is telling you to go dig deeper into what dependencies there are in doing such a thing.
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In that case why update any device?
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For the vast majority of users there is no need. In fact there is a significant numbers of users who refuse to upgrade any device for various reasons.
But for those that do update a device - any tech in fact - it's all to do with dopamine. The consumer society is a construct to create more dopamine.
For users and sellers the pleasure of the new, the pleasure of change, the pleasure of not being left behind, of being ahead of your peers in the constant battle to, not only keep up with, but beat the Jones', but ultimately the pleasure of enjoying the VAST profits being made when all the sheep have to have your new device, right here, right now!