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Nexus 6P, MXP killer?

To start, I'm definitely satisfied with my 64gb, black leather and red accent MXP. My biggest concern right now is the announcement of the Nexus 6P. Modders/developers, will this effect the potential of future development for the MXP? I'm with Verizon, so my choices on rootable/unlocked devices is very limited. Anyone else concerned and debating on selling/returning MXP? Also, with Android M announced, this will now show how truthful Motorola was on updating MXP.

I am happy with Moto. Nexus 6p is not much better oh and more expensive.
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I haven't even seen my custom MXP yet and I'm debating returning it. My MXP has been at my house since September 18, but I'm at college and won't be able to retrieve it until October 10. I only have a few days left whether to tell my Mom to return it or not (Motorola only allows returns within 14 days of delivery).
The Nexus 6P definitely looks like the better overall phone spec-wise. But the differences are marginal.
The upsides to the MXP that make this a very hard decision are the customization, so I like the design much better (doesn't look like an iPhone), and the Motorola apps that the phone comes with (I kinda like the fact that it's not 100% stock android, but close). I'll also be able to have it in my possession much earlier (Nexus 6P doesn't look like it's shipping until November).
The only reasons I'd go for the Nexus 6P is the bigger battery and the better dev support.
Very hard decision to make here. Motorola's customization should not be overlooked here, while I think that the Nexus 6P's marginally better specs could be.

patt2k said:
I am happy with Moto. Nexus 6p is not much better oh and more expensive.
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I know the two devices are so very similar with a $100 price difference. Just hoping modders will stick with developing for the MXP, biggest reasons for getting the MXP, was for near stock OS and development here at XDA.
Also, who should I donate to for development of CM for MXP? (I know it's probably a huge list of users, I do like compensating those for their time and efforts)

The only person I've seen doing anything with the MXP recently is Harsh. That is great but the odds of people suddenly grabbing this device for development, with its fairly obvious and well reported shortcomings is pretty low IMO. Especially with the nexus already announced and shipping in 30 days.
I bought my MXP on the third and still don't have the stupid thing. Sorry but that is pretty pathetic on Moto's part.
Add to all this Leno gutting Moto right before launch and the odds of updates being speedy being diminished greatly makes the MXP the riskier device.
I don't need the finger print scanner but its nice to have. I normally don't lock my phone but I would with the scanner and for last pass and bank stuff its really nice to not have to tap in my log pass word. Add to that Amoled is better and a better chipset that won't struggle when the gpu runs and bigger battery make the $100 a no brainer. My pure is most likely going back assuming it even gets here.

Spike96 said:
I haven't even seen my custom MXP yet and I'm debating returning it. My MXP has been at my house since September 18, but I'm at college and won't be able to retrieve it until October 10. I only have a few days left whether to tell my Mom to return it or not (Motorola only allows returns within 14 days of delivery).
The Nexus 6P definitely looks like the better overall phone spec-wise. But the differences are marginal.
The upsides to the MXP that make this a very hard decision are the customization, so I like the design much better (doesn't look like an iPhone), and the Motorola apps that the phone comes with (I kinda like the fact that it's not 100% stock android, but close). I'll also be able to have it in my possession much earlier (Nexus 6P doesn't look like it's shipping until November).
The only reasons I'd go for the Nexus 6P is the bigger battery and the better dev support.
Very hard decision to make here. Motorola's customization should not be overlooked here, while I think that the Nexus 6P's marginally better specs could be.
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I wouldn't return it, 6P is much more expensive per storage option and really you'd only be adding a fingerprint scanner, besides that its just a small step up. Also you probably wouldn't see it until years end since on the reddit threadspeoples delivery dates are now at mid-late november and that was hours ago.

The dang device has been out for 3 weeks! The developers that have the brand new device have had it for 3 weeks, and most wouldn't not buy another device after they just bought a $400 phone for a downgrade in specs! //rant
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I'll stick with this phone as long as there is some development, but i'll jump ship if there is no custom kernels / roms.

Orion116 said:
The dang device has been out for 3 weeks! The developers that have the brand new device have had it for 3 weeks, and most wouldn't not buy another device after they just bought a $400 phone for a downgrade in specs! //rant
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Valid point... Maybe with the 2 devices being so similar, developing for each might not be too different either and possibly porting 6p mods to MXP might be an option.

I'm having a little buyers regret as of today, but I'm not sure if it's worth the $100 more and I've grown to quite like the Moto sensor features and their "always listening" feature.... I use it much more than I thought I would.
I'm sitting here looking at a brand new OnePlus2 that I got yesterday - I received my invite and had to try it. I'm thinking I could sell that and get the 6P (with a little more $$ thrown in) and see what I think of it?
It's a never ending game.... In a couple months, a new Flagship will be out and I'll wish I had that too... I have to stop somewhere and pause for a while.

tele_jas said:
I'm having a little buyers regret as of today, but I'm not sure if it's worth the $100 more and I've grown to quite like the Moto sensor features and their "always listening" feature.... I use it much more than I thought I would.
I'm sitting here looking at a brand new OnePlus2 that I got yesterday - I received my invite and had to try it. I'm thinking I could sell that and get the 6P (with a little more $$ thrown in) and see what I think of it?
It's a never ending game.... In a couple months, a new Flagship will be out and I'll wish I had that too... I have to stop somewhere and pause for a while.
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I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.

shadymouse said:
I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.
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The OP2 sounds pretty weak (speaker) compared to the MXP. It even sounds pretty weak compared to a Galaxy S6/S6 Edge/iPhone..... Also, during the initial setup my battery went from 93% to 52% in just a 35-40 minute period. This included downloading and applying the 2.1 Oxygen update and several apps from the app store and restarting after the update. My M9 had a Snapdragon 810 and it was snappier than the OP2, IMO, and sounded a lot better too.
I did like the off-screen buttons and the home button/fingerprint scanner.
I think that's what I'll do.... Sell it for as close to the $400 I paid (after shipping) for it and put that back for a N6P.
The biggest complaint I have about the MXP is I can't find a screen protector to fit it!

tele_jas said:
The OP2 sounds pretty weak (speaker) compared to the MXP. It even sounds pretty weak compared to a Galaxy S6/S6 Edge/iPhone..... Also, during the initial setup my battery went from 93% to 52% in just a 35-40 minute period. This included downloading and applying the 2.1 Oxygen update and several apps from the app store and restarting after the update. My M9 had a Snapdragon 810 and it was snappier than the OP2, IMO, and sounded a lot better too.
I did like the off-screen buttons and the home button/fingerprint scanner.
I think that's what I'll do.... Sell it for as close to the $400 I paid (after shipping) for it and put that back for a N6P.
The biggest complaint I have about the MXP is I can't find a screen protector to fit it!
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Interesting... Thanks for the response. I recommend the 6P pre-order, this phone looks like it will be a winner. Huawei makes pretty nice phones, I'm glad they teamed up with Google. I was thinking about getting the OPT still but trying out HydrogenOS, I'm hearing good things about it and of course you always have CM.

You don't have cm with OnePlus 2... They ended their relationship a long time ago, hence why they had to go to Oxygen.
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The oneplus one was great. I had an invite for the 2 but I passed on it for the Pure. Now my pure is going back as its not living up to expectations and I have the BIg P on pre order.
Its like $50 more for the nexus. Lots of little things make that worth it, biggest of all is the development on the nexus will be much better.

For me switching to the Nexus will only cost me about $5 more or $55 more if I do a 64GB since I spent $475 on the Moto with 32GB and wood cover and $20 on a memory card I probably don't need but bought simply because I could lol. So take away the memory card and the upgrade is only $25 but I get a better battery, fingerprint reader, instant updates, at least 2 years of updates, maybe better camera, AMOLED displace, notification light, etc....seems like a good deal at least for me.

PolishDude said:
For me switching to the Nexus will only cost me about $5 more or $55 more if I do a 64GB since I spent $475 on the Moto with 32GB and wood cover and $20 on a memory card I probably don't need but bought simply because I could lol. So take away the memory card and the upgrade is only $25 but I get a better battery, fingerprint reader, instant updates, at least 2 years of updates, maybe better camera, AMOLED displace, notification light, etc....seems like a good deal at least for me.
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I'm basically in the same situation. 64gb with leather and have a 64gb SanDisk UHS 3 card. If I bought the 64gb 6p I would save money. I might just keep MXP so I don't have to deal with selling it.

shadymouse said:
I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.
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Just to update you on something, OT here...
I boxed up my MXP this morning and have been using the OP2 all day... I've got about 10 hours of up-time with about 1:20 SOT and I'm at 77% on my battery. To be honest, this feels just about like the MXP... And I'm hoping this gets better after a few days of use (set up like a new ROM last night before bed).
I've had wifi on all day, took more calls than usual (4 calls), listened to music through my speaker (still sounds weak) and played 3 songs though my bluetooth speaker, just to test it out........Plus all the normal texting, email, weather, app updates, ect...
So the battery seems to be better after initial setup, which I'm extremely glad!
Now, if I can just make it with this super weak speaker for 5 weeks until my N6P arrives, that's gonna be the hardest!

tele_jas said:
Just to update you on something, OT here...
I boxed up my MXP this morning and have been using the OP2 all day... I've got about 10 hours of up-time with about 1:20 SOT and I'm at 77% on my battery. To be honest, this feels just about like the MXP... And I'm hoping this gets better after a few days of use (set up like a new ROM last night before bed).
I've had wifi on all day, took more calls than usual (4 calls), listened to music through my speaker (still sounds weak) and played 3 songs though my bluetooth speaker, just to test it out........Plus all the normal texting, email, weather, app updates, ect...
So the battery seems to be better after initial setup, which I'm extremely glad!
Now, if I can just make it with this super weak speaker for 5 weeks until my N6P arrives, that's gonna be the hardest!
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So I ended up passing. I ordered the product and I saw the processing time may take 5-10 days. Who know, maybe we'll get lucky and the 6P ships early (fingers crossed) . I've been using my OPO and It's still smooth as day one, so I will hold on to it and use it as my backup phone. I will probably use the OPT money for a smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 comes out tomorrow.

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So I ended up passing. I ordered the product and I saw the processing time may take 5-10 days. Who know, maybe we'll get lucky and the 6P ships early (fingers crossed) . I've been using my OPO and It's still smooth as day one, so I will hold on to it and use it as my backup phone. I will probably use the OPT money for a smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 comes out tomorrow.
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Sounds like a good plan! I never had the OPO, but it seems to still have a pretty strong following.
FWIW: I was told there was a 5-10 processing period too, ordered it Thursday evening.....Tried to cancel it a couple hours later and was told "it's already been processed and cannot be cancelled now".... It arrived Monday morning. So I think the 5-10 day is a CYA thing they use, which isn't a bad thing, I guess?
I did the Smartwatch thing earlier this year (Moto360 than a Sony SW3)... Loved it at first, but it only lasted about a month. I didn't like the bluetooth drain on the battery..... My OCD already watches my phone battery too much, with the extra drain and now another device to watch the battery on, I didn't get anything done!

Why I chose the Nexus 5x over the Moto

I recently purchased a Moto X Pure, and within 4 days knew I made the wrong decision. I'll list below the reasons I returned the Moto X Pure and why I'm buying the nexus 5x.
Why I'm return the Pure Garbage™:
•Lcd Lights- Distorts screen at night. Very obvious placement.
•Battery Life-poor. Gets too hot to use while charging (my next point)
•Heat- gets VERY hot with normal usage. Can't use while charging.
•Camera- 21mp? I get the same quality with my daughter's Nintendo DS..
•Weight- uncomfortably heavy + sweaty hand from heat + Rubber Back = disaster waiting to happen
•THICK..Call it a BBC. (Big Bulky Cellphone! Get your mind or the gutter!!)
Why I chose the Nexus 5x:
•Camera - 9mp less but 100x better. Laser autofocus.
•Screen - Both LCD, but after countless viewing reviews, the lights aren't eyesores.
•Fingerprint- so convenient!!
•Accessories- Nexus has a much larger following. Last 3 Motorola's were hard to find cases for.
•Updates- for obvious reasons
•BOOTLOADER- IMPORTANT!! If you had plans on getting to the Moto X Pure and unlocking it, you're sacrificing your warranty to do so. Google allows you to unlock your phone and keep your warranty.
What I lost out on in the switch:
- Removable memory - 32g is plenty. I have 128gb card in my G3 that doesn't get used
- 5.7 inch display - Too damn big anyways. The LG G3's 5.5" is pushing my upper limit as far as screens go. Learned on the Moto that 5.7" is a two hand phone, unless you have ogre hands.
Did anyone else choose between devices and get this one? If so what device and why?
Comments/debates welcomed!

That was one of the phones I was looking at as an upgrade from my first gen Moto X. The big factors for me were an unlockable bootloader, vanilla android, regular updates, and the ability to use any carrier. I was hoping for a 5" phone at the most, but 5.2" is okay so far. I don't think I could get used to a 5.7".
I wasn't expecting to care about the fingerprint sensor, but now that I have it, I love it! Was concerned about battery life, but no problem at all getting through the day so far.
The active display (whatever they call it) stinks on this compared to the X. Not a big deal, though, as I have a Pebble, and it's so quick to unlock.

I'm a huge fan of moto, having had the last two moto Xs. I could deal with the garbage cameras because it was nearly pure Google, the size was manageable, customization is boss, and it felt like a quality phone that didn't need a case to be sturdy as hell. The size of the nexus 6 and 6p is what deterred me from them. The 5x is a nice phone with some awesome features and decent battery life but the performance on my 2014 was better (subjectively) and I feel like I'm holding a phone that will break if it falls off the table. I've never felt the need to put a case on my motos unless I was going to the bar or camping, but this guy might need one 24/7

Came from a 2014 X PE as well. I would still be using it if it weren't for FI network. It's a shame that it doesn't work on it.
As far as the camera, the X got a bad rap. I had that thing taking some good shots. Never a complaint from me.
The display blows the Nexus 5x out of the water. So vibrant, punchy and draws your attention. So far everyone that's checked out my 5x immediately commented on how the display was grey, washed out compared to the moto X.
Moto X seemed faster at nearly every task compared to the 5x. This thing stutters all over the place. Moto has some really awesome features that once you use and lose, you miss...a LOT. attentive display, active notifications, chop flashlight, quiet time...moto really nailed it on the head.
Alas, I'll be keeping it. I went back to Nexus for FI, the battery is slightly better than the moto X which randomly shut off with anywhere from 8-20% still supposedly left.
Still love Nexus devices though, its a fun serviceable device.

OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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The camera on moto still sucks big time in moderate to low light.. That was a bummer for m.. Otherwise it's a gr8 phone
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Nexus 5x can be used on any us cellphone carriers include project fi

I sat on the edge about the pure for a while. A few big things just glared at me.
First, The physical appearance of the pure just didn't match the 5x. It looked chunky and the front flash was just gross.
Second, although the pure will probably get updates fine, the 5x will undeniably be the leader of the curve.
Thank you for making me more comfortable in my decision, the SD card reader was hard to give up for those easy onsite backups and space for a mini rom archive, but I think I can handle the 32GB restriction, especially since T-Mobile allows free unlimited lte play music now.

I used solely Nexus devices from June 2012-March 2015. When I shattered the screen on my N5 I chose a Moto X 2014 Pure due to the size of N6. I actually ended up really liking the Moto, and probably would have went with the 2015 Pure if it hadn't grown to 5.7. As is I went N5X simply due to size. I do miss a couple features of the Moto, but overall am happy with the Nexus. Fingerprint sensor ended up being very convenient, I originally didn't care, but now don't want to give that single feature up.
And I really hate delays in updates, after using Nexus for so long, it was really frustrating waiting for my year newer Moto to update weeks after my original N5 had already received the update with its shattered screen and all.

I was selecting between the MXPE and the 5X, and chose the 5X because:
No Motomaker in Canada (would've purchased from the US though, knew exactly what colours/options I wanted )
MXPE not available in Canada (would've purchased from the US though)
It's too big, and heavy - as is the 6P (MotoX 2013 was the perfect size, MotoX 2014 was reasonable)
Due to their recent behaviour, I no longer trust Motorola to release timely OS updates (hopefully Motorola proves these fears to be false)
Unlocking MXPE bootloader voids warranty
No device can match the kind of support (both official and third-party) that a Nexus device will receive
I really wanted to get the MotoX this year, but the 5X was the better choice for me, by far. I love the feel and industrial design of the 5X (the top and bottom bezels are definitely larger than they ought to be though), I'm getting great battery life, the camera is excellent & fast, and I know I'll be able to get updates from Google for at least two years, and quite possibly beyond.
I've got a four year old Galaxy Nexus flying on Lollipop (with stable Marshmallow on the way!) thanks to the development community. Specifically Ziyan in this case. Not that I plan on using the 5X four years from now.

Coming from MX 2014 Pure (Germany):
- hated delayed Lollipop update (we got it 2 months after the USA)
- battery was subpar
- camera was **** especially in low light conditions
+ cool moto features but almost all of them are now incorporated into M
+ size was perfect
+ moto maker
The smoothness of 5X is much better than on MX 2014 PE. Battery is holding much longer.
I was considering MX2015 but:
- no fingerprint scanner (motorola got screwed in 2014 by apple buying that fingerprint company but for the 2015 models there is no excuse not to have it!)
- too big
- unlocking voids warranty (at least in 2014 model I could flash custom rom and here I don't want to wait for the "official" M update because it will most probably come much later)

I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
Plus being able to unlock and relock the bootloader on the Nexus 5X and still having warranty pushed me over the edge. Also guaranteed updates for two years, and a great developer scene is likely.

Moto x is a phablet just like the nexus 6. I didn't want a phablet so I didn't consider the moto x.
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I was considering a Motorola phone and even recommended the Moto G to people who asked, but with the acquisition by Lenovo and the abandonment of the Moto E after promising updates, I can no longer consider or recommend Motorola phones. I am pretty sure it will only get worse as time goes on and Motorola becomes even less Google and more Lenovo. I heard they were laying tons of people off.
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Agree 100%. My last two phones were Motos, and they would have been my first choice for a new one, but I was suspicious after the sale to Lenovo and the recent debacle around their updates sealed the deal for me. To my knowledge Moto still has not articulated a firm policy regarding software updates and security patches going forward (it's possible I missed something, though, since I stopped paying attention once I pre-ordered the 5X).
The Moto E situation was particularly egregious. I know that if you read the fine print they probably complied with the letter of their advertising but the fact is that they tried to sell people on the idea of being the OEM to go to for updates and they completely violated the spirit (perhaps not the letter) of that advertising by providing only one incremental update and then dropping it.

Moto X Style definitely has a better screen than the 5X, also the video was a lot more stabilized than the 5X. Moto X Style has 2 front facing, loud, clear speaker, where the 5X only has one

robstunner said:
OP is so incredibly biased in not even going to counter it. Mxpe is a wonderful device.
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How am I biased when I bought the Motorola first?
The Motorola had it goods, but the bad outweighed it.

I was sooo close to ordering the MXPE. I literally had my customized, Moto Maker'd device in the cart ready to check out when i started looking more into the 5x. Which from spec release until about 2 weeks ago I'd written off as my next device.
Then I spent some time researching and reading and researching, finally deciding on the 5x. Couldn't be happier. I've never had the MXP in my hands, but I'm in love with my Nexus, and the eventual development will be the cherry on top.
The size and weight of this thing is near perfect. The screen and speaker and sound on earbuds are nowhere near as bad as some may have made it seem.
I literally have 3 gripes about this phone. One major and 2 minor that aren't that big of a deal and I am already over.
1. No SD card. Pretty obvious.
2. 3.5mm jack is on the bottom. No big deal.
3. Bezels take up too much screen space, especially on the sides.
Honestly 2 and 3 never crossed my mind as a deal breaker. And no SD card I can live with, just need to steam my music instead of store it.
Sorry for the long rant, I just wanted to share I was on the fence between these two phones and couldn't be happier that I chose the Nexus.
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The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.

axemred said:
The biggest reason is phone size. I wasn't interested in a large phone.
A second reason is that I don't really trust Moto anymore after my experience with a carrier Moto X 2014. Their builds were buggy and their update frequency and availability tapers off quickly over time.
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This. Plus the fingerprint scanner.
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Nexus device provides pure android experience.

What phone will you go to next?

The Pure is an awesome phone. It has been my favorite and could be perfect with a bit better battery life.
Time marches on and I can't say I am enthused with the new Moto line coming out. Also not sure about Lenovo.
It just doesn't feel right that Moto is no longer American.
So what are you folks planning on going to next?
I would love a stripped down Sony or HTC. Not keen on Samsung. Apple, only if they offer a model with stock Android[emoji13].
Thoughts?
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Samsung. Maybe de 7 Edge, great specs and battery life, Lately Samsung improves a lot system updates ( and i will buy unlocked)
Stock Android is great, but sometimes lack from cool features like theming, gestures etc. HTC m10 is option, but i dont know.
Other options are OnePlus 3 and the AXON.

Most probably a Nexus device.

Im waiting for a new nexus. 1+3 is good but not kicking my ass do a sold them after two Weeks and back to moto
halo moto \m/

Likely the smaller of the two new Nexus devices, provided the battery life/build material is comparable to the larger alternative. This also hinges on whether or not it'll work on all carriers, which I assume it will.

I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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Definitely a Nexus. Probably in a year or two, I'm pretty good with my phone. Now if Lenovo doesn't upgrade this sucker to Android N then I might ditch it and switch early to the HTC-made Nexus Sailfish. But, I can't see the future so, who knows.

I'm thinking Nexus but I plan to stick with the Pure for at least another year or so. I might even go for another Moto phone. My main requirements will be that it has to be unlocked and no bloat (I actually like the few bashed on features the MXPE has). At the moment the Nexus and Moto lines meet this requirement. Only time will tell.

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I have my eye on the Axon 7 but I been reading there is alot of bugs with it so far.... I almost pulled the trigger on a nexus 6p .
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I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.

I'll probably pick up a 6p once the new Nexuses are out and people start flooding Swappa.

Le Max 2, Axon 7, 1+3 or a Nexus device (either the 6P or 2016 5" if it has a 821 and is under 400)

From the pick at the moment probably the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe, but not till I see how it fares in real reviews.
The new moto phones are a big step back from the pure for me.

maybe the moto z more likely the note 7 if it gets root pretty quick.
my pure seems to be developing issues as it nears the warranty date actually i think it just past that on the 18th of july and i have been having issues now for about a week...
And i have a used note 3 that still works great... has better battery life than the pure too...

New smaller Nexus. I want faster updates and more ROMs to choose from.

I honestly have no idea. I'm not enthusiastic about any of the new phones. Seems almost every manufacturer is reverting from a 5.7" screen to 5.5" which is a deal breaker for me. Also need root and I'm on Verizon which cuts my current, and future options down to just my current x pure, or a semi-rooted S7.

Richy101 said:
I also had an interest in the Axon 7 but as you say there are reports of bugs. I read one owner had issues with his Axon using 19% idle over night. Doesn't work with android pay either at the moment. Thankfully supplies are tight so no temptation to buy one in UK.
I have been considering a Samsung gs7 edge now price has eased. Just can't pluck up the courage to buy one. The glass back puts me off. Can't get enthusiastic about the new Moto Z phones and don't currently appeal. The new nexus phones when they are released may be worth consideration but I've never had any luck with HTC phones in the past.
So I'm stuck with the X Style which is no great hardship! Battery generally lasts the day, the display is nice and bright when required, the speakers are very good and it just works day in day out. The one thing I do wish though is that it was 5.2" as it's just a little cumbersome to use one handed. But the big display is good for Web browsing and vids.
So I'll either stick with the X STYLE or at some point get a Samsung GS 7 Edge, but will see what the new Nexus phones are like too when released.
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I am in the same boat brother lol, I have my Moto X pure for now ... the Edge body im not a fan but the camera is what i love on it. Prices are almost at 500 bucks here in usa for them so i might wait a bit more.

Honestly... I might go back to my Moto G 2015, this phone is great except the battery life. Going from 5+ hours of SOT per day to barely 3.5 is tough. Maybe a G4 or even wait for the next Nexus devices.
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ill probably wait till 2017 nexus releases

Anybody have experience with the 6p and moto X Pure

My note 7 is recalled onece again so I'm looking for an interim replacement that won't break the bank in the interim until the next note comes out.
With that being said. I'm familiar with the Hardware differences between the 2, and some of the software tweaks. I can get a New 64gig MXP for 360.00 or I'm looking for a 64 gig 6p around 450-500 for a new one. Used around about 50-75.00 less. With that being said, this device will get passed along to a family member. So any advice would be appreciated. From what I read the mxp will get nougat some time this year and probably will be the last one for it.
Thanks in advance.
RS

rescueswimmer said:
My note 7 is recalled onece again so I'm looking for an interim replacement that won't break the bank in the interim until the next note comes out.
With that being said. I'm familiar with the Hardware differences between the 2, and some of the software tweaks. I can get a New 64gig MXP for 360.00 or I'm looking for a 64 gig 6p around 450-500 for a new one. Used around about 50-75.00 less. With that being said, this device will get passed along to a family member. So any advice would be appreciated. From what I read the mxp will get nougat some time this year and probably will be the last one for it.
Thanks in advance.
RS
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That's a tough call. Despite the greater specs on the 6p, I really can't tell a performance difference, but that might change as software gets more demanding. The 6p's camera is way better. Most would agree the Motorola's look and feel is better on the outside and the slightly smaller size is more comfortable to hold.
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Hi have had both, had to return my x pure twice for screen defeats.
But as it relates to both, the pure feels much better in the hand, the performance difference is somewhat noticeable, but not night and day between it and the 6p.
The pure has sd card storage
Plus moto display, is the single best feature on any phone imo, you don't realize how great it is until you are not using it
Good camera, comparable to most top flight camera in good lighting, a joke of a camera in poor lighting.
6p
Pros
Finger print scanner
AMOLED screen
Faster updates.
Better camera.
Cons
Too big, other manufacturers manage to put a similar screen in a smaller body.
No sd card

Build on Janerd's response:
Moto X Pros:
Way smaller in hand
Screen is way brighter
Screen is much more visible with polarized sunglasses
Speakers are richer
Moto actions
Better camera app (way more one-hand-able based off of the UI)
Cons:
Even though they both have the same amount of ram, the Moto dumps its cache way more frequently. Chrome tabs reloaded ALL THE TIME.
It's noticeably slower than the SD 810.
In my eyes, if the X had been released with the SD810, or even the SD805, it would have been near flawless.

rescueswimmer said:
My note 7 is recalled onece again so I'm looking for an interim replacement that won't break the bank in the interim until the next note comes out.
With that being said. I'm familiar with the Hardware differences between the 2, and some of the software tweaks. I can get a New 64gig MXP for 360.00 or I'm looking for a 64 gig 6p around 450-500 for a new one. Used around about 50-75.00 less. With that being said, this device will get passed along to a family member. So any advice would be appreciated. From what I read the mxp will get nougat some time this year and probably will be the last one for it.
Thanks in advance.
RS
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You can check Amazon warehouse deals for both those phones, I picked up my nexus 6p 64gb for 340 back in July. I have had both and that SD 808 is a weak spot on the mxpe. Still a good value though. I'll be sticking with my nexus 6p for the time being.
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Had x style three times. Great phone. But different between x pure is void guarantee after unlock bootloader. Anyway speed, smooth,energomy, speakers is fantastic. I change it for Nexus second time because i love Nexus and outstanding xda community

Is N6P worth it in today's time.?

Hello there,
I am thinking of purchasing a new Nexus 6P. I just want a phone with a bigger screen, great camera and sound and especially a great development support that can last for around the next 4 years..
Can anyone help me in knowing the battery life and the overall experience of using a Nexus 6P..
Price is USD 460 (Brand new)
Would be of great help..!
Thanks,
A fellow Android user.
PS - My main reason of considering a N6P is a great community support.
If you wish, you can recommend me any phone running Pure Android , that would be worth the purchase.

@pulkit said:
Hello there,
I am thinking of purchasing a new Nexus 6P. I just want a phone with a bigger screen, great camera and sound and especially a great development support that can last for around the next 4 years..
Can anyone help me in knowing the battery life and the overall experience of using a Nexus 6P..
Price is USD 460 (Brand new)
Would be of great help..!
Thanks,
A fellow Android user.
PS - My main reason of considering a N6P is a great community support.
If you wish, you can recommend me any phone running Pure Android , that would be worth the purchase.
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It is a great phone, but I though I've heard that a new 6P could be had for around $350 or so. $460 is very close to what it was at launch. but even still at what the Pixel and they new S8 and G6 will cost, that will still be a a very good price comparatively speaking. I personally wouldn't pay more then say $350-$400 for one now at almost 18 months old.

Worth it
@pulkit said:
Hello there,
I am thinking of purchasing a new Nexus 6P. I just want a phone with a bigger screen, great camera and sound and especially a great development support that can last for around the next 4 years..
Can anyone help me in knowing the battery life and the overall experience of using a Nexus 6P..
Price is USD 460 (Brand new)
Would be of great help..!
Thanks,
A fellow Android user.
PS - My main reason of considering a N6P is a great community support.
If you wish, you can recommend me any phone running Pure Android , that would be worth the purchase.
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I just bought a used Nexus 6p to replace a failing Moto X Pure Edition (2015) and I am extremely pleased with it so far. For longevity it's very hard to tell when you're talking about 4 years out but there is very little out there with the pure experience that is going to match the support the 6p will have. Battery life has been acceptable though not amazing. Charges very fast so that helps offset. Standby time has been excellent though screen on time is what really drains it. The camera takes great photos though the HDR+ processing is slower than I thought it would be (as is processing of the Blur effect when used).
The experience has been the best of any phone I've used. Everything is snappy and I don't get occasionaly slowdowns I used to get on every other phone I've used (Moto X, Note 4, HTC One, G2, S4). It's a bit heavier than I like and I keep a case on it because it is a bit slick with nothing on it but otherwise comfortable. I love finally having a phone with a fingerprint sensor and this one works great. I never have issues with it. Connectivity has been great with Wifi, 4G, bluetooth and GPS. No issues with any. Speakers are very good. Very similar quality to my Moto X Pure. Nice and loud and front facing.
I wish the camera sensor was a 16:9 ratio since I prefer taking all my photos that way. When you crop down to 16:9 on the 6p you're down to 8.3Mp which is a bit low for preserving detail. If you prefer 4:3 you won't have any complaints.
I run mine stock, rooted with google assistant enabled and my only complaint is that the stock launcher won't let you change the home screen grid size. I normally use Nova Launcher but I'm liking using the new icon quick shortcuts in Nougat (similar to the force touch actions on the iphone). Nova does this also but for some reason it doesn't work on the 6p (might have something to do with changing the model to a Pixel to enable google assistant).
By the way, I picked mine up used for $310 (64Gb).

read about the battery and boot loop issues. the 6p has issues. either the batteries are sub-par or there are software issues. many people have significant problems. hauwei will repair, but we have no real idea what is wrong and if there
if a real fix coming in the future.
i will be receiving a free placement from google--my phone was purchased from google. i will buy extra batteries planning on getting 6 to 12 months on a battery. if i was buying new now, i am not sure what i would do. i personally loved my 6p when it was working well. now that is shuts off early without warning, it is problematic.

I love my 6P but if I could do it over I would probably spend the money on a different phone. I feel like the 6P is a time bomb with the boot loop of death and battery issues. Some people can't even get replacements for their RMA'd phones since the 6P is no longer being made or they are getting back badly dinged up ones that show significant signs of use and abuse. There are serious issues with this phone. Google blames the hardware and Huawei blames Google. If you get 4 years out of one of these it will probably be a miracle.

Look at the oneplus 3