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Would you recommend Android 4.4.1 over 4.3?

UPDATE: would you recommend Android 4.4.1 over Android 4.3 on the Nexus 4? Why? Why not?
Okay, a little title change here. So I'm hearing some good things on 4.4.1, so let me ask you a few questions, even if it may be too early at this point:
- anyone who didn't recommend 4.4 before feels like 4.4.1 is major step forward?
- how's battery life, especially in regards of wakelocks and unexpected drainage? Does wakelockdetector work now?
- how's 4.4.1 performance compared to 4.3, both stock, is it definitely snappier?
- how's camera performing to 4.3, how's photoshere stitching?
- anyone running it WITHOUT factory reset and 4.4 & 4.4.1 installed over 4.3, experiencing zero problems?
Thank you!
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Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.

Of course, KitKat is a great update. It's the best Android version yet and I love where Google is going with it.

BoneXDA said:
Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.
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obviously yes, the 4.4 google nexus update is awesome, dunno for other devices ( in future ). by the time samsung launches it, it will be full of bugs, ala 4.3 for s3

I think everyone who has an unlocked bootloader should for sure. Definitely needs to be ran for a couple days to get a feel for it. If you want customization you'll most likely go back to 4.3 as 4.4 rom's don't have very much. (yet)

Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats

ccab said:
Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats
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I also have to say my battery life sucks now that I'm on 4.4.
Not sure what it is but I got 12 hours TOTAL. Not even with a lot of use. Most of the time the screen was off and I didn't much use it. That's compared to a full day of life when I was on JB.
I'm wondering if a factory reset would help it.

I'm running KRT16O on my phone and loving it. However, it appears I was one of the lucky ones. No bugs, no bootloop.
KRT16S is obviously not ready for rollout. It's been soft-bricking devices like crazy it seems. I hope Google halts the OTA and fixes this. Until then, I'm sticking with 16O.
Hold off and wait.

So, there are plenty of bugs here, lags on the lock screen, lags in the applications, applications which still doesn't working, camera is making very bad pictures and so on - take a look to android 4.4 bugs forum.
I am back to 4.3 and waiting for 4.4.1.
No, i don't recommend 4.4 on the nexus 4 yet.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Recommended. I'm on KRT16S with no problems whatsoever. Great fluidity and no bugs.

I think 4.4 has some good news, but not worth it. I was using paranoid ROOM with linaro franco kernel and i`m ready to get it back on my device.

krt16s
KRT16S is very good image,my phone is full apps and all working without problem,i use nova last beta 3 launcher and working realy fast,i dont like GEL icons(too big for me),battery is great,after 10 hours stand by time 4-6 %, ,on screen i think is wery good,betther than 4.3....no FC,no lags,everything work fluid and fast....
i flash with FB,and after flashing factory reset....

It's significantly better than 4.3 IMO. I personally clean flash for every major update after taking a backup, and I'm having absolutely no issues. UI is extremely smooth, no bugs with tethering or anything of that sort and battery life has actually improved.
I'd recommend a clean flash if you have the time, just to be thorough.

I would definitely recommend it. Performancewise...it has never been better imo! I don't experience any of those bugs mentioned above. Smoothness is just amazing.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Thx guys!
Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?

BoneXDA said:
Thx guys!
Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?
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I switched to ART immediately upon updating last week. It runs great. I've only had a few bugs(Timely takes about 10 seconds to open). Beyond that, I like it. I let my friend who is using CM 11 on his GNex try it out last night and he was impressed with the performance.
If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.

4.4 is the best android version so far, and with ART is amazingly smooth!

Sure - I have been using since a day after Google released the factory images and I didn't have a single problem with it. I also flashed zip for transparent nav bar in the lockscreen and installed Nova launcher beta and everything is as smooth as butter

Well, i'm not using ART so far because I don't like to use a hacked lib or an outdated app to be able to use all my apps with it.
That aside, KRT16S has been awesome so far, battery life has improved, the UI is much smoother and with ApexPro 2.2.0 beta 1 the interface has the same transparency as GEL (Which I uninstalled already. I don't like the kiddie-sized icons, it looks too toy-like).

On KTR16S ... Battery is worse than KTR16O which is worse than 4.3 for me... My experience with ART was not great, but probably because my phone is almost full of files and got full (system and free space for storage) after a long time to optimize...after that I didn't notice a better performance and missed some of my apps so returned back to dalvik ...but I would recommend KitKat....I like GEL and about its size icons I changed DPI than got great for me
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

bjacks12 said:
If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.
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I'm sorry I still carry some noobage... install without soft bricking, what do you mean by that? I'm waiting for the OTA but still undecided whether to install when it arrives. Speaking of, if it does, can I install it over 4.3 keeping my apps & settings? I'm unrooted and not planning to.

Nexus 10 is laggy...

Hi together!
I own my Nexus 10 since March 2013. Everything worked fine for me (i was always on the latest Stock Rom - did no reset etc.).
Well, by the time i noticed that the nexus has become a bit slow and laggy. Especially since I got a Nexus 5 which is just fast without any lag since christmas last year. Everything is also on stock there...
Last week I had enough and I did a factory reset. Well, compared to the Nexus 5 it still feels laggy. Every click takes a some time before something happens. It's not that bad that I couldn't use it, but it is a bit disturbing.
Main question 1: Guys, am i just confused because my Nexus 5 is that smooth, or is the Nexus 10 just simply old and too weak for KitKat.
I know, i could use some custom roms. But i am totaly ok with the Stock rom. I like it, as it is! So i don't urgently need a custom rom.
Main question 2: What possibilities do I have, to make the stock rom a little bit more smooth?
Thanks for your tips!

I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.

brGabriel said:
I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.
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I agree with ^^^^^^. Custom roms + overclock would be your best friend for an aging device. When you are used to the speed of a faster device like the nexus 5, the nexus 10 will just naturally feel slower (which it is). There is really not much you can do if you insist on staying stock. For me, I'm using mrrobinson's 4.3.1 buttered AOKP with Manta kernel, OC CPU to 1900mhz, set touchboost to cpu 1500mhz and gpu 533mhz. The device feels noticeably faster than stock, but of course it will never be as smooth/fast as your nexus 5.

Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!

guitargod said:
Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!
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I run 4.4.4 on my N10 with no appreciable amount of lag.
I run Slim Rom.
I don't overclock, mod kernels, etc.
This tablet doesn't need any of that.
I do run Greenify, Ad Away, and Autostarts. This keeps my tablet as snappy as the day I loaded the ROM.
Run any ROM for a while and it starts to lag. Root allows you to correct the issue.

I find it really lags when apps are updating, or when restoring apps. I never considered my Note 2 fast but it handles all of these tasks with barely a whimper. Guess # of cores is important.
Its time for a new tablet soon, but not really sure what I'm going to go with. I want to get away from Samsung's physical/capacitive buttons, but also want high res and speed.

Holy crap mine started lagging out of the blue about a week ago. I'm going to take this as a sign that a new nexus 10 is coming and google wants us to upgrade!

My Nexus 5 has really spoiled me as far as smoothness. I'm on slimkat on my Nexus 10 but I'll be trying a 4.2.2 rom to see if there is a difference as some threads around here say.

As far as KitKat Roms go, I find Liquidsmooth to be very snappy (however the YouTube app crashes are a deal breaker for making it my daily driver )
Probably the smoothest ROM I've ever run was Sabermod 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292927
Also the early Eos 4.2.2 ROMs were really good too. They also had tablet mode or left-aligned navigation buttons.
There are plenty other good ones but that's just my two cents.

My advice would be to run the 'performance' CPU scheduler, which locks the CPU at 1.7ghz. Makes quite a big difference, and the impact on battery life is minor. :good:

I've installed AOKP 4.3.3 and so far it's way smoother than KK. In going to try Eos 4.2.2 and see how it does.

The nexus 10 is not too weak for kitkat
I find that Nexus 10 on KitKat with a custom rom and kernel runs very smooth and fluid (at least as fluid as nexus 4 which is very good).
Personally I run official Omnirom 4.4.4 with franco kernel r16. I have also flashed bionic and dalvik optimized libraries which are actually intended for qualcomm devices - but by some magic work well on my nexus 10 and improve performance in benchmarks by as much as 20%! And browser and interface feels much smoother after flashing these library patches.
You can download them in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/mod-dalvik-bionic-library-optimization-t2537299
I flashed the Z2 bionic and the Moto X 4.4.2 dalvik files. (They work on 4.4.4). Flash patches before flashing custom kernel. (download 4.4.4 KTU84P stock library also and flash in case you get a bootloop after flashing the optimized libraries)

LG G3 D850 CM12 Lollipop nightly review

This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
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I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.

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I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.

Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.

Agreed on sound quality but CyanogenMod has many advantage's
I would argued on sound quality and maybe animations just because they are more much nice in CyanogenMod vs stock ROM. Everything else is just plain better in CyanogenMod. I am experiencing a randomly sound beep for about 1 to 3 seconds and dont know why. I am always on the lastest nightly.
Also I love the fact that I can see thr constants additions or fixes CyanogenMod is doing.

Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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B.s..... aosp is way, way faster. LG stock Rom is laggy as hell
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I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip

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Wonderful news, im happy to hear that quickremote is still a possibility, I tried a apk from the stock ROM but it did not work, I'll hunt down the zip

Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion

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Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
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I had wifi and data issues too on CM12. I could barely get 3G on some places at work.

LastSUper said:
This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
and leaving feedback, feel free to leave your expierience
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It's good to hear that CM12 is coming along. I tried it back when it was "unofficial" and my phone was overheating to the point that it actually scared me. Since then I have moved over to Cloudy G3 (which is based on stock). The Cloudy G3 Rom itself is very quick and with the Android L theme from @Kickoff it has a much nicer look that is closer to the stock android UI. I think I will stick with Cloudy G3. The main reason being that I am able to use ExFAT on my SD card and also the LG camera allows you to save to SD and all of the LG features are there if I want them.

Illusion ROM is extremely stable with a good build team, been using for two days now with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! Its the full lollipop experience.

I also moved as soon as CM12 become possible to use for daily use.
Room is incredible fast, every day less and less bugs. With the most of them is possible to live with.
Comparing to ****ty LG's android, i finally have feeling that i have good phone. Lag and terrible quality of official android make me to feel sorry for buying this phone (beside battery).

I reverted back to cm12. Running 1/26 right now and its flawless. DO NOT UPDATE TO 1/27! There are major speed issues and connection problems. Illusion ROM lacked features I enjoyed and there settings menu was a train wreck.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

WARNING
DO NOT UPDATE PAST NIGHTLY 26!!! after nightly 26 almost all connection services such as WiFi and mobile network will not work or work extremely poorly. I have tested all the way up to nightly 29. All the zips are in some way corrupt. They give red code while flashing but proceed anyways (I'm not a proffesional sorry guys haha). Nightly 29 wouldn't even boot without the kernel crashing. Nightly 26 is running almost flawlessly. I hope someone sees this so they can address the problem. I have still not tried nightly 30. I might try sometime later tommorow, I'll continue updating.

Nightly 30 and 31 are working and everything is starting to get polished over. Nightly 31 received a new boot animation darker than before with a nicer ending. Both run very well with no problems noticed so far other than very minor lag between some animations.

Mind that CM12 is in its early Nightlies, issues will be fixed but it will take time.

Well of course, I'm just recording bugs in each nightly so people will have a better idea whether or not they should move to the next nightly

I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.

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I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
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the activeness of this thread doesn't determine the stability of a ROM lol. flash CM yourself and find out. if you want your G3 to be as smooth and flawless as your Nexus 5 was on AOSP, over clock your GPU to 580MHz and it'll fix all the lag. you can do this on the stock CM kernel using Trickster Mod kernel tweaker.
also, no LG camera and no knock code. but there is Motorola camera which is really just as great, and there is double tap screen to turn it on.
Sent from my LG G3

another review can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJC9B0qa2RY

Describe the phone's performance ....

So I'm looking to buy the Moto G 2014, and every review I've seen so far describes the performance as "OK, Fine, Not bad", even though my sister has a Galaxy S3 Neo (Which is running the same SOC but with a 0.5GB more ram) and the performance is stunning. So what do you think about it ? and if a ROM can make it even a better runner be sure to tell me.
Thanks a million !

Moto G xt1068 will be best in this price range..
It has got a lot of development.

Performance on Stock is fine, but the animations smoothness are crap, partially because Stock is 5.0.2, partially motorola's fault. Install an AOSP ROM (not CM12.1, it has some unnescessary things) and a decent kernel and then the performance will be way better. Its a good performance overall, for a 2013 mid range CPU.
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Thanks guys !! Really appreciate the help !

For what you pay you get better than OK
How much do you think it's ok to spend on extra 0.5gb ram? USD 20-25 I think its ok, but how much I will pay to not have touchwiz on my phone it's priceless.

I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?

composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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flash titan prime 1.0.3 beta, it will blow your socks off
https://romhut.com/roms/titan-prime-rom-for-motorola-moto-g-2014-unified

composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.

Lynse said:
Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
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No Sir, you're absolutely wrong. I tried out AOSP, Quantum OS and even PA. Nothing comes close to how smooth Titan Prime is.
I get 20,000+ on antutu without even tweaking the kernel settings. And that says a lot.
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composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Hi, I know exactly how you feel. I had a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One before my G (Gen 2). Especially, after lollipop it had become so laggy, sometimes, I felt like throwing my phone. I rooted and started flashing roms on the G after I got done with college in the first week of April, and I haven't felt frustrated ever again. Great phone, with great development. If you want a rom that is fool proof, download Titan Prime 1.0.3 and use it with Stellar Kernel 5.0. (Also Xposed works perfectly on it)

What is the most recommend ROM to be running in 2021?

What is the recommend ROM the community suggests to be running on a Nexus 6P in 2021?
All CPU cores are intact and phone is working like new after replacing the battery.
I was hoping to freshen up the dated Stock 8.1 ROM even tho it is rooted and whatnot its kinda feeling a bit old and slow
Also keep in mind that this is my "daily driver" so to speak so nothing to experimental / unreliable
Thanks in advance

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Would love to know as well?
I had "AOSiP 11 Ravioli for N6P", which was Android 11, but not running that well.
Now running ResurrectionRemixOS, but it is also laggy as soon as my RAM is full (which happens very fast).
Any good suggestions?
Do I need to go back to Android 9 to have a lagfree experience?

nilse said:
Would love to know as well?
I had "AOSiP 11 Ravioli for N6P", which was Android 11, but not running that well.
Now running ResurrectionRemixOS, but it is also laggy as soon as my RAM is full (which happens very fast).
Any good suggestions?
Do I need to go back to Android 9 to have a lagfree experience?
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Agairty3 said:
What is the recommend ROM the community suggests to be running on a Nexus 6P in 2021?
All CPU cores are intact and phone is working like new after replacing the battery.
I was hoping to freshen up the dated Stock 8.1 ROM even tho it is rooted and whatnot its kinda feeling a bit old and slow
Also keep in mind that this is my "daily driver" so to speak so nothing to experimental / unreliable
Thanks in advance
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I've tried all available ROMs ever released for 6p, from 6.0 all the way to 11. Nothing beats Stock oreo + Elemental X kernel (unrooted) i repeat unrooted! i know i've been a root user since SuperSU cyno days but i just noticed that installing magisk make my phone sluggish. I got to sacrifice on emoji fonts mod i've been using for years, but this is the conclusion i reached. This is my personal experience, Others may vary.

nilse said:
Would love to know as well?
I had "AOSiP 11 Ravioli for N6P", which was Android 11, but not running that well.
Now running ResurrectionRemixOS, but it is also laggy as soon as my RAM is full (which happens very fast).
Any good suggestions?
Do I need to go back to Android 9 to have a lagfree experience?
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Congrats on getting those 2 Roms to boot. I can't get either one to boot for the life of me. Anything specific you are doing to get either one to boot? I'm using the TWRP-3.3.1.0-FBE-10+
Ata Ur Rehman said:
I've tried all available ROMs ever released for 6p, from 6.0 all the way to 11. Nothing beats Stock oreo + Elemental X kernel (unrooted) i repeat unrooted! i know i've been a root user since SuperSU cyno days but i just noticed that installing magisk make my phone sluggish. I got to sacrifice on emoji fonts mod i've been using for years, but this is the conclusion i reached. This is my personal experience, Others may vary.
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The current ROM I'm running and absolutely love the battery life/performance as this device is strictly on WiFi for Spotify/Netflix/Hulu, Location and NFC on for Coin XYO app, and for camera use. The ROM is SuperiorOS-Phoenix-angler-20200626. I can send you a link via PM to download it if you can't find one but its customizable and stable AF too with AlphaKernel3.0 baked in as well.

undeadking said:
Congrats on getting those 2 Roms to boot. I can't get either one to boot for the life of me. Anything specific you are doing to get either one to boot? I'm using the TWRP-3.3.1.0-FBE-10+
The current ROM I'm running and absolutely love the battery life/performance as this device is strictly on WiFi for Spotify/Netflix/Hulu, Location and NFC on for Coin XYO app, and for camera use. The ROM is SuperiorOS-Phoenix-angler-20200626. I can send you a link via PM to download it if you can't find one but its customizable and stable AF too with AlphaKernel3.0 baked in as well.
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Sure sounds great can you send me the Link to DL the ROM