Technical and value dilemma: Dual Sim - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Dear knowledge Gods,
Having decided on the Moto X Play, I have come to a dilemma revolving around the version. Here it is:
I don't have two phone lines and live in Brazil where only the dual Sim version is being sold. However, in a month from now, I am to take a trip to France/England, where the single Sim version is available (and is LTE compatible with Brazil's frequencies). After exchange rate's conversion and plan discount, it is still cheaper (about 25%) to buy the dual Sim version in Brazil, but I still don't know if it's worth it.
My question is: Knowing that there are known disadvantages to dual Sim phones (network issues, lesser life span, etc), is still worth it to get the dual Sim version in Brazil and ignore the extra slot?
Thank you in advance.

Anthorg said:
Dear knowledge Gods,
Having decided on the Moto X Play, I have come to a dilemma revolving around the version. Here it is:
I don't have two phone lines and live in Brazil where only the dual Sim version is being sold. However, in a month from now, I am to take a trip to France/England, where the single Sim version is available (and is LTE compatible with Brazil's frequencies). After exchange rate's conversion and plan discount, it is still cheaper (about 25%) to buy the dual Sim version in Brazil, but I still don't know if it's worth it.
My question is: Knowing that there are known disadvantages to dual Sim phones (network issues, lesser life span, etc), is still worth it to get the dual Sim version in Brazil and ignore the extra slot?
Thank you in advance.
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The dual and single sim are identical hardware wise. You could even flash single sim firmware onto your dual sim phone and convert it.

I have the Dual Sim version, and live in the UK. It works really well, has full 4g coverage here and in Ireland and the battery life shames the Asus Zenfone 2 and OnePlus 2 (both of which I had, and very happy now to stick with Play). Being able to get 6 hours of screen time in a day and still have battery left is so important given how much I travel and am not always near a charger. Its a no-brainer of a purchase for me.

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MOTO G ~ Dual Sim Edition

Hi Friends,
This Thread is about the Dual sim version of MotoG( A budget friendly Phone with premium specs launched by Motorola). Apparently its not been released yet. I sense its soon going to be!
I know there are Guys ( l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ .. like Us) out there who want to support the Development section ( Custom ROM development , Kernel development etc.)
The Developers need to witness your support so that they decide to develop for MotoG Dual-Sim Edition.
So Join us (Replying/Thanks) below in this Thread and show interest so that we have everything ready by the time MotoG gets released!!
Remember,
More Support -> More Developers show Interest -> More Mods, Tweaks and Customisation follows.
Regards,
Shikhar
I'll definitely hope there'll be a dual sim development since I suspect that south east Asian version will came with dual sim.
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+1 for this post bro.
Im with you.Im ready for Rom testing.
I love to support developers .
Hope there will be more developers for Us.
Will single sim ROMs work on the dual sim phone? Even if with just one sim. I just need one but the dual sim version is cheaper here.
Already released here in Brazil (8 gb single sim, 16/8 gb dual sim). Hope there will be development for de dual sim version.
pedrohlr said:
Will single sim ROMs work on the dual sim phone? Even if with just one sim. I just need one but the dual sim version is cheaper here.
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I am rather surprised to know that a Dual sim version costs less than the single sim phone.
coming to your Q. single sim Roms may work on a dual sim phone. but its neither advisable nor required as the Dual sim variant will get its own RoM s.
BTW from where do you belong?
shikhar623 said:
I am rather surprised to know that a Dual sim version costs less than the single sim phone.
coming to your Q. single sim Roms may work on a dual sim phone. but its neither advisable nor required as the Dual sim variant will get its own RoM s.
BTW from where do you belong?
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I am from Brazil. Actually, from Motorola's store the single sim is cheaper, but it isn't sold outside Motorola's website. As other stores charge less for the phone, and they don't sell the single sim, the dual chip is cheaper than the single one from Motorola.
I would also like to know whether a Custom Rom can be developed for the Dual SIM version. I would like to buy it because of the 16gb internal memory, and I don't care about a second SIM - if a custom rom works as a single chip mode in this device, I would be very happy!
Anyone have any idea whether this is possible?
I'm from Brasil mine 16GB Dual Sim arrived yesterday... I'm loving it =)
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I'm from Brasil mine 16GB Dual Sim arrived yesterday... I'm loving it = (2)
I would also like to know whether a Custom Rom can be developed for the Dual SIM version. I bought because of the 16gb internal memory, and I don't care about a second SIM - if a custom rom works as a single chip mode in this device, I would be very happy! (2)
Daniel
+1
everyone wants more developers to the Moto G hehe
+1
Any chance to get the Brazilian 16G dual SIM version shipped to Europe?
nupi said:
Any chance to get the Brazilian 16G dual SIM version shipped to Europe?
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Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543189
lcdiniz said:
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543189
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At that price, I will stick with a single SIM one
So the dual-sim edition has only started shipping in late November but only in Brazil so far?
Any quick reviews yet? I think people are especially interested in learning how the differentiating dual-sim function has been implemented. E.g. can both sims operate data and voice simultaneously and how are the two connections managed (interface)?
I have a coworker in Brazil, and i asked him to buy me a moto g. If he cant i probably will ask to felipeap to bring one to Spain
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i hope there will be custom on dual sim version as much as single sim version because in my country doesn't sell single sim version
DeLonge, Where are you from?
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It may take a lil longer as only specific countries are being targetted by Motorola. Which means only a few developers actually getting their hands on this deivce.
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LG G4 "DUAL SIM" is real, and it's fantastic

Video preview: "Trên tay LG G4 Dual Sim - www.mainguyen.vn" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFox9eyOVVM
Source is a store in Vietnam: http://www.mainguyen.vn/lg-g4-dual-sim.html
Toward the end you can see "SIM 1" and "SIM 2" in the Android Settings "About" screen. It's running Android 5.1, and as far as I can tell it's otherwise like a normal G4. I want one!
Why it wouldn't be real? lol, btw i don't understand that language.
rumor has it that the G4 version for my country would be the dual sim variant too
i do curious about the model name.. and very anxious about the dev support
Indonesian LG G4 is 100% DUAL SIM
I'm so glad we get the dual sim
I wish we could buy dual SIM phones in the U.S. It would save many people from carrying a work and personal phone, or people could have two prepaid SIMs for those who primarily use one with the second being a better coverage but more expensive SIM.
Can't wait to get my hands on the phone, but gots to have the dual sim version so patience is a virtue...
Are both sims active? Looks like you can only have one active at a time.

LG V20 Dual Sim?

Hi all.
Does any one know if there is a plan to release Dual Sim variant ?
Thank you.
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Yes the H990ds V20 Dual SIM TD-LTE
For anyone At&t, frequencycheck.com says it misses half the LTE bands
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EMSpilot said:
Yes the H990ds V20 Dual SIM TD-LTE
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That's great but who can actually sell me one. This phone seems to be like rocking horse droppings, talked about but non existent :crying:
I dropped my V10 from one foot last week and something internal has gone making a section of the screen dark. No cracks dents or otherwise - so much for the mil-spec six foot drop test rating....
Desperately need a replacement and the timing seemed prescient until it has become apparent that LG doesn't want to make hay whilst the sun shines over Samsung's nightmare !
If anyone knows where a dual sim lurks, please let me know
Philippines v20 is dual SIM. And if the sales person is right, doesnt share w sdcard like the note 7
Hong Kong and Taiwan version of LG V20 will probably be a dual sim version and both of them will be announced in 20/10, perhaps you can get one in the near future via parallel import.
jan george said:
it seems that the slot of microSD is also used as second sim slot like G5..
Any ideas??
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Did you really have to spam every other post here with this question?
And the answer is no, different hardware, pins, whatever you want to call it.
koppee1 said:
Philippines v20 is dual SIM. And if the sales person is right, doesnt share w sdcard like the note 7
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I can also confirm that the V20 in Philippines is dual sim. LG concept store called me yesterday to inform me that the LG V20 is dual sim (they called because the initial specs says only single sim and wanted to confirm if I still wanted to pre-order). and yes I was also told that the micro sd slot doesn't share the sim2 slot (they say they already have the demo units and they have checked)
In the specs here
http://www.lg.com/ph/mobile-phones/lg-V20-titan
It calls it True Dual SIM which to me is a nudge at those who share with the SD card - in my opinion one of the dumbest things designers ever came up with. Hmm I'll make a Dual sim for the heavy duty users and remove their storage expansion....
So I've been seriously considering this phone. It seems that the Taiwan version (H990DS) is the one to get as it supports more North American bands, unlike the Hong Kong version (H990N). I've been scouring the web trying to find a user manual for either of them, but LG hasn't posted it yet, only the US versions. One of the things I've come across is that it appears as if the 2nd sim slot only supports 3G, not LTE. Does anybody have one of these yet to confirm or deny it? FYI, I'm in Canada, but travel to the US quite a bit where I use the T-Mobile $3/day plan. It sucks having to pop the back off and swap cards every time I cross the border, but if it's true that the 2nd slot only supports 3G, then I might as well get the single sim version.
may i know does anyone have any info regarding the dual sim version configuration ?
which is it below ?
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 2G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 3G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- SIM 1 always on/have 4G/3G/2G the SIM 2 always only 2G (non switchable !!)
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
kms108 said:
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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sorry to ask but can you add in the specifics ... what you are saying are when on standby time and that we all know (which clears out my option 3) but what i want to know is the moment you surf on 4G or call (either sim) what does the other sim becomes ?
drops to 3G or 2G ?
this is important to me as 2G will phase out end this year in my country so if this phone will drop to 2G means its useless to me and show no signal.
side note i saw a posting on the Philippines version it stated that the second sim is only on 2G
source ---> http://www.phonemore.com/phone/lg-v20-h990ds-dual/2847
when one sim is in use the other sim is disabled, but since i only have 2 3G sim, the othere sim still stays on 3G but is not usable.
I think only a handful of phones can do 2 sim active, they are all chinese brand.
kms108 said:
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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Hey, could you list the LTE bands? Thinking of importing this version for ATT.
Gsm 850/900/1800/1900
wcdma 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
td-scdma 1900/2000
lte b1/b2/b3/b4/b5/b7/b8/b12/b17/b20/b26/b28/b38/b39/b40/b41
It is always the case that one sim can run at 4g while another at 3g, i got 990N
At least there is improvement, it was the mi 5 that was the first phone, if you are talking about a none chinese brand, sony xperia XP the first note 7, then V20.
I got the Taiwan 990ds for 2 days and love it!
It supports 4G+3G (switchable between SIM1 or SIM2), meaning both sims will function in countries with 3G and above only. It also has separate TF card slot unlike the Samsung Note 7/S7 Edge which sacrifices SIM2 when using TF.
Fingerprint sensor is much faster than V10 and battery life is amazing compared to V10 (used for 16 hrs with a few hours of browsing and 2+ hours call, messaging, etc still with 10% battery left.... Forgot to check SOT though).
It is definitely a few notches better than the V10 and the S7 Edge (which I somehow didn't like the grip), and possibly on par with the Note 7 (iris scanner is way way better the finger prints!).
Now, if only we can get root it will be perfect!
zylem said:
may i know does anyone have any info regarding the dual sim version configuration ?
which is it below ?
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 2G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 3G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- SIM 1 always on/have 4G/3G/2G the SIM 2 always only 2G (non switchable !!)
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kms108 said:
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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Could I get you to check if the 990N has allot of languages avalible or only a few? Is Dansk/Danish avalible?
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Single/Dual SIM versions?

I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe? You can see the versions number on the official website: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/mobile-phones/huaweip10plus-en-sup.htm
VKY-L09 is single SIM
VKY-L29 is dual SIM
I don't get why they would remove this functionality for some parts of the world.
A lot of companies are backwards having this hybrid slot, giving you the choice of one (dual SIM) or the other (single SIM + expandable storage), although they are stuck in the 2013 bubble...some companies have actually moved on from there, but I'm surprised why this has not developed with major phone manufacturers.
RoOSTA
There is also the VKY-al00
VKY-AL00
Main SIM card:; LTE FDD: Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/12/17/18/19/20; TD-LTE: Bands 38/39/40/41 (100M); UMTS (WCDMA) / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; TD-SCDMA: Bands 34/39; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM / EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Secondary SIM card:; UMTS (WCDMA): Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Notes: The two SIM card slots can be Main card or secondary card.; ;
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/compare/index.htm?pro1=P10-PLUS-ENVKY-AL00;
Aarseth said:
I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe?
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I received my pre-order yesterday, it's the VKY-L09 single SIM variant in the Netherlands, so I suppose the same is true for the rest of Europe.
I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
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Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
Phecabooth said:
Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
adamelphick said:
Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
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sry
im so sad reading that.
Phecabooth said:
sry
im so sad reading that.
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Me too! I don't know why some countries get Dual and some Single - so silly!
Phecabooth said:
Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
XtraArrow said:
I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
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My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
Phecabooth said:
My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
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What I'm saying is people at any company will tell you anything to stop tampering with it both software and hardware. I have a dual SIM firmware on my l09 edition. If i can get a dual SIM tray or nodded tray I'll give it a go. Until both phones have been disassembled and had a look then all we can do is hope and try
adamelphick said:
Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
thanks
essojay said:
its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
thanks
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So that means Huawei lied to me? I guess possible..... not wanting single SIM to be easily changed to dual SIM.
So ALL we need is the SIM tray? The hardware definitely inside?
Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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thermalboyz said:
Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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Malaysia
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Hi all,
I've get my P10 Plus in UK couple of days ago. I was really disappointed that model doesn't support dual sim. Huawei Support also told me that my phone is single SIM only plus SD Card. But when I took a torch and flash inside SIM card slot I can easily see second set of sim card pins right upon empty space in tray. So I think it's highly possible to change ROM only and get Dual Sim Version. We need to wait couple weeks to release files for both devices and than check that
If you rebrand to a dual sim model, you can use both sims. Many people reported success already. Google for rebrand huawei p10 plus -- most success has been reported if you rebrand to VKY-L29C636 version.
Confirmed, i rebranded and flashed the VKY-L29C636 on my single sim and it worked, the only thing that i lost is the theme function. Somebody say how can i fix it?

oneplus 8 pro in2025 dual sim not working

i just bought another one plus 8 pro, previous one i had in2023 which i can use dual sim no problem but this in2025 i have error saying dual sim doesnt work within this current system the version is 10.5.6.in11aa.
is there a fix to make the dual sim work?
No, 2025 is the US version, and currently the US model has dual-sim disabled. It's BS, I want this phone but have to have dual-sim. The phones are nearly identical so no idea what the hold up is!!! So either send the 2025 back and get another 2023 or wait until OnePlus enables it. They've said they WILL, at a "future date". Whatever that means.
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No, 2025 is the US version, and currently the US model has dual-sim disabled. It's BS, I want this phone but have to have dual-sim. The phones are nearly identical so no idea what the hold up is!!! So either send the 2025 back and get another 2023 or wait until OnePlus enables it. They've said they WILL, at a "future date". Whatever that means.
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thanks for the input i also learned it only recently its disappointing really only difference is bands between this phone and the other version why the heck they taking too much time just to enable the dual sim, ive seen this request since march 2020 and its already june i guess they will never implement this thing and just advertises it as dual sim as a marketing gimmick
I've been also waiting for dual sim and there's been 3 updates ever since I got the phone. I hope it gets released pretty soon, as my 2nd sim just sits idle while I can't use it.

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