I have been wanting to post this for a long time..
Terrific hardware and benchmarks alone don't make a terrific phone - one of the key takeaways for me from my exp with XSP.
Good optimised software by the OEM matters a lot to the user experience. I am 100% sure that with support from Sony for at least until the release of Kitkat could have made a huge difference now.
I rooted and flashed a new ROM on my phone approx. 6 months after I bought it. I was frustrated of the Stock ROM with so much lag and bugs after prolonged use.
But after using custom ROMs for almost one and half years, I miss the Sony UI. Every custom ROM (except for few) have the same old bland interface. I got sick of it to be honest, even though custom ROMs have better performance.
Next is the camera performance - another let down for me. Same goes to the phone speaker.
Well, what are your thoughts on the XSP before you go and buy another phone?
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Well, what are your thoughts on the XSP before you go and buy another phone?
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This Xperia SP has carved a wondeful meaning into my life.
All I can say is that no matter how hard I try there will be no phone that can replace my XSP.
The notification bar is the best aspect of XSP which cannot be found on new devices (S6 edge tried to replicate but I guess failed miserably). I love to color it according to the apps I use and while there are many phones with RGB Notification LED, none shines brighter than XSP
The roms have been hiccups. There were some that I liked but got updated to a point they broke (freezes and lags - staring at you Lollipop)
In terms of games I found many that work flawless on it and some that required more RAM and hence stutter a little but with so much old hardware that is to be expected.
The disappointment for me has been camera... I don't think it is possible for any other phone to tint pictures so yellow. But since I usually don't take pictures all that much it never bothered me much.
Lastly XSP taught me to buy a Z-Series if you plan to stick with Sony (which I do even after they abandoned us - yes yes I still haven't forgotten the betrayal of no 4.4 update, don't say you all have)
Yeah true, those darned Sony guys, this phone has equal hardware to the first Z ,but still they didn't consider us because we paid less
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SP was a good phone
it is a 2013 mid range phone which it beat 2012 flagship phone
just because sony mobile suck
The hardware is not bad, screen could be a bit better but otherwise it's OK. The (official) software on the other hand is the biggest piece of **** I have ever seen/used in my life. Although the fact that it looks like crap could be opinion-based, the fact that it runs absolutely horrible and has memory leaks and lags throughout is seen by all of us. Keep in mind as a tech guy I could solve this by flashing a ROM and kernel (even so this stuff is still hella confusing and requires a lot of patience), but remember that the idea of a phone being made is so eveyone could use it without having to do that. I can't even begin to imagine what the average user thinks of this phone. Basically it's phones like this that give Android a bad name and make people want to stick to iPhones. I was really surprised to see everyone having such a positive opinion about the Xperia SP on its forums; you guys seem to love it unconditionally.
A good phone. Think I got it free (or was it SGD30?) as an upgrade
My use is now limited to phone calls, whatsapp, sms, and the occasional surfing. Heck, even an old Sony Ericsson is good enough for my purpose
Anyway, time to say goodbye to Sony...and welcome a Xiaomi Mi 4i (tomorrow)
vvaklnprm said:
I have been wanting to post this for a long time..
Terrific hardware and benchmarks alone don't make a terrific phone - one of the key takeaways for me from my exp with XSP.
Good optimised software by the OEM matters a lot to the user experience. I am 100% sure that with support from Sony for at least until the release of Kitkat could have made a huge difference now.
I rooted and flashed a new ROM on my phone approx. 6 months after I bought it. I was frustrated of the Stock ROM with so much lag and bugs after prolonged use.
But after using custom ROMs for almost one and half years, I miss the Sony UI. Every custom ROM (except for few) have the same old bland interface. I got sick of it to be honest, even though custom ROMs have better performance.
Next is the camera performance - another let down for me. Same goes to the phone speaker.
Well, what are your thoughts on the XSP before you go and buy another phone?
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I have my sp for a bit over a year and a half now. The phone is absolutely not godlike, but over that past 1,5 year I've loved it. It covers my needs and I think it will keep doing so for a long time, thus I have no reason to go and buy another daily driver. But, I'll agree for sure with you on the "I miss the stock ui" part. I'm running a custom rom and a custom kernel for around 4 months (was sick of stock 4.3's random freezes, and I had customized the rom in some ways [kernel, unbloat and such stuff]). While the performance is heaps better, I miss the ui I experienced when I first powered on the phone, so that's why I'm going back to stock 4.1.2 (with another kernel and some mods of course - after all, this is xda god damn it) just to revive some of that......."nostalgia". Other than that, I wouldn't say it's a terrible phone at all. If not anything, it's one of the greatest devices I've used, and I'm happy I own and use one as a daily driver. I'll keep using it this way until it won't be able to cover my needs.
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I have my sp for a bit over a year and a half now. The phone is absolutely not godlike, but over that past 1,5 year I've loved it. It covers my needs and I think it will keep doing so for a long time, thus I have no reason to go and buy another daily driver. But, I'll agree for sure with you on the "I miss the stock ui" part. I'm running a custom rom and a custom kernel for around 4 months (was sick of stock 4.3's random freezes, and I had customized the rom in some ways [kernel, unbloat and such stuff]). While the performance is heaps better, I miss the ui I experienced when I first powered on the phone, so that's why I'm going back to stock 4.1.2 (with another kernel and some mods of course - after all, this is xda god damn it) just to revive some of that......."nostalgia". Other than that, I wouldn't say it's a terrible phone at all. If not anything, it's one of the greatest devices I've used, and I'm happy I own and use one as a daily driver. I'll keep using it this way until it won't be able to cover my needs.
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Exactly I don't plan on changing this since it covers my requirements, although I was tempted more than once to do it
Perhaps,
...Perhaps Its time to share my part of the story
My Xperia SP which is my first awesome fast smartphone
It took me into a new dimension of android rooting and flashing roms, kernels , bootloader
It has embraced me many type of error while flashing or crashing.
Unfortunately, My Xperia SP squeeze out its last battery percentage and went away....
So, My xperia sp's Battery is now dead and is sealed,
A New Monster arrived for me : Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Its my current device and a new replacement for my Xperia SP
The Good news is that sooner or later i will be Replacing the solder battery of the Xperia SP with a new one and bring it back to life!
I would really want to thank everyone in this thread for supporting this phone up till Cm13 (Marshmallow)
I would really want to thank everyone who had helped me along the way!
vvaklnprm said:
I have been wanting to post this for a long time..
Terrific hardware and benchmarks alone don't make a terrific phone - one of the key takeaways for me from my exp with XSP.
Good optimised software by the OEM matters a lot to the user experience. I am 100% sure that with support from Sony for at least until the release of Kitkat could have made a huge difference now.
I rooted and flashed a new ROM on my phone approx. 6 months after I bought it. I was frustrated of the Stock ROM with so much lag and bugs after prolonged use.
But after using custom ROMs for almost one and half years, I miss the Sony UI. Every custom ROM (except for few) have the same old bland interface. I got sick of it to be honest, even though custom ROMs have better performance.
Next is the camera performance - another let down for me. Same goes to the phone speaker.
Well, what are your thoughts on the XSP before you go and buy another phone?
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Good phone but very laggy and stuttering.
I dont blame the outdate ROM but I blame the bloatwares that cant be removed.
I only use my phone for 5 apps no games, and it lags
I used to like Sony but I believe it was taken over by western stocks.
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I have my sp for a bit over a year and a half now. The phone is absolutely not godlike, but over that past 1,5 year I've loved it. It covers my needs and I think it will keep doing so for a long time, thus I have no reason to go and buy another daily driver. But, I'll agree for sure with you on the "I miss the stock ui" part. I'm running a custom rom and a custom kernel for around 4 months (was sick of stock 4.3's random freezes, and I had customized the rom in some ways [kernel, unbloat and such stuff]). While the performance is heaps better, I miss the ui I experienced when I first powered on the phone, so that's why I'm going back to stock 4.1.2 (with another kernel and some mods of course - after all, this is xda god damn it) just to revive some of that......."nostalgia". Other than that, I wouldn't say it's a terrible phone at all. If not anything, it's one of the greatest devices I've used, and I'm happy I own and use one as a daily driver. I'll keep using it this way until it won't be able to cover my needs.
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I used to switch back to .254 a few times for it is faster than the newer ones. But after a while, it also gaining stuttering.
I recommend you use the pure stock version 3. which remove wares
niruzz said:
Good phone but very laggy and stuttering.
I dont blame the outdate ROM but I blame the bloatwares that cant be removed.
I only use my phone for 5 apps no games, and it lags
I used to like Sony but I believe it was taken over by western stocks.
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I used to switch back to .254 a few times for it is faster than the newer ones. But after a while, it also gaining stuttering.
I recommend you use the pure stock version 3. which remove wares
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Pure stock version 3?
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Pure stock version 3?
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[ROM] [JB 4.3]
Slim Sony Generic GB Original Stock ROM's
Version 3
It is stock rom but remove bloatwares
I've had the Xperia SP for almost a year now, and I'll admit it has been one of the worst devices I've ever owned followed by my old Atrix 4G which lacked support. The touch problems, lags of the xperia. I will miss the led notifications and yes some bloat ware which was actually useful on the stock roms. Stamina, Small Apps, Camera App, Bravia Engine lol. The hardware is great and the phone feels solid but Sony just had to abandon it after jelly bean which really ticked me off. What i have learnt now is before purchasing a new phone go on the threads read about it's problems. Before I got this phone I didn't know about it's issues until I had it, but obviously it was too late. Well this is my last year with this device and surely if it wasn't for all the devs working so hard to bring the latest firmware Android 5.0 - 6.0 it would've been frustrating oh yah and the multitasking does suck though
Well the Xperia SP is a great device, awesome features and so but software is rubbish. And on top of that... the Xperia SP community is rubbish too! Mean users and developers. The lack of respect towards each other. I am happy with my S6 And I do know I wont be getting a Sony phone anytime soon
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Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest stunner and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Thanks for your opinion that 5 million people like to buy turds at $600+ a pop
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Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top,
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shure2 said:
Ok so referring the note to a turd might be a bit over the top, but with my first day going from gingerbread to ics I have to voice my opinions.
When I first booted it up this morning I was underwhelmed. I'm coming from a desire z with asop ics which is a fantastic device, still smooth and great all round.
With GB everything was ugly to start off with, and the general performance felt a step down from my modded desire z (truly a credit to the developers). The browser was clunky (even in opera mobile) , the whites were more yellow than I expected, the was quite some lag waking it up and audio with headphones was terrible. I gave the desire z credit for its audio quality, I'm no audiophile but the difference was massive and it was actually painful to listen to the songs I used to love.
Now I'm using the latest shutter and the difference is unreal, it has literally transformed the phone. Everything is faster, this is how the note should have been in the first place. I was gutted with the audio performance on GB, even tweaking the equaliser in power amp couldn't get me to an acceptable quality. Well somehow the dev's have done it again. In ICS the clarity and range is even slightly better than on my desire z, something I never expected.
I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it (I'm talking a 1 second delay between swiping and recognition) but I had faith in the developers and it's paid off.
This is mainly for those pondering on whether they should get the note because of initial bad reviews on the audio and using the stock rom. The audio and general performance is now fantastic on ICS.
I feel sorry for the many out there on the stock rom, here's to you developers.
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Even though I agree that ICS on the Note is very neat and improves many aspects of the device, at least in my case Gingerbread was not that bad either!
Perhaps the only gripe was the small lag on wake, but other than that it was buttery-smooth out of the box and after the 380+ apps I usually end up installing.
I think it all comes down to what your carrier have done to it and what firmware version you got it with in the first place.
Cheers!
I wouldn't call The note a turd!! ,it is a bit slower than the unrealistically buttery smooth SGS2 but not by much.
and since the sgs2 was more smooth than an Iphone4 (my own experience) ,then I'd say that the note is doing just fine on GB.
although ,I'm really looking forward to trying ICS ,it's just the Idea of me flashing ICS bootloaders for a "beta" that's putting me off ,or have I got this part wrong ,and I don't need to change bootloaders?
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...When I first booted it up this morning...
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
A turd really a bit too much but I do agree with OP, gingerbread Note left many things to be desired and I am on ICS stunner now, only thing I missed is full function S-pen.
I do hate touchwiz in guts. It does nothing but crap out our beautiful Note
If I had to choose , HTC has best software development for proprietary software user experience. While Samsung has the best specced hardware.
Note with pure aosp/aokp ICS is the best phone available today
Just my opinion.
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I love ics but if gb could get tablet mode I could care less about ics.
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You think the Note is a turd on GB?
Try coming from over a year with a Dell Streak stuck at 2.2.2
THAT was painful!
The note with GB 2.3.6, and Go Launcher EX, FLIES...at least it does for me.
Haha yep I had a Streak over the year and it was developer Dj_Steve that saved it for as long as it did. Even though the Note is better in most regards if got a soft spot for it as it was my first real awesome device. Why? Because it was 5 inches Never selling that, great memories.
There was only one reason that prevented me from getting the Note on release and that was touchwiz. But a couple of months ago I got one and enjoying it. Waiting patiently for ics but most likely once the spen apps work on osap ill move to that. I just love the experience of vanilla android that I had on my Streak.
Well stock GB left much to be desired but after the Devs did their magic it was great. Going to ICS and Stunner made my Note just the way I wanted it. But overall the phone was always a winner to me just for screen size alone lol but I do miss the S-pen apps.
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100% agreed. I didn't buy the Note because of Touchwiz or the S-Pen really...I bought it for its awesome screen. As an Android fanatic, knowing that I could change the firmware to whatever I wanted, made it an easy buy. Most "normal" people couldn't tell you what phone they have let alone what version of Android they have, if they even know it's an Android phone to begin with. But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general. If I was stuck with what Samsung offered me, I wouldn't have ever bought the Note in the first place.
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I'd like to thank you for observing the advantages of ICS Stunner over the stock GB rom for such a long time, thats what i would like to call an an excellent base for judging a hole rom. this will make my decision much easier.
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I spent half the day using apps I would normally use (xda, opera, youtube, bbc app etc) and every single one was faster on my desire z with a custom rom (no games however). For me it doesn't take days to work out how good a rom is, I've been a serial flasher for years, and I'm sure lots of others can work out how good a rom is in a few hours. Maybe the desire z is an unfair comparison because it's so good when modded? But this has twice the ram, probably nearly twice the cpu performance so I was expecting a great performance out of the box.
Maybe I got a dud stock rom? (la6) If I'd have heard the headset quality in the store I wouldn't have brought it, but it's massively improved in ICS which I haven't seen said here. Obviously this is all down to personal preference, but the distortion and lifeless high ends were very noticeable before.
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The Mighty TouchWiz
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But I feel even to people like this, Touchwiz is something of a joke. It's butt-assed ugly, laggy, and just a UI disaster in general.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
I myself like the TW,here is what I am gonna do:Wait for the official ICS to be released,and after that will get the best custom ROM based on it with least bloatware,and flash.,of course will make sure that I test all of them first and get whatever suits me the best.
Thats what I did with my HD2,and PDA2K long time ago,and was very happy,on my HD2 I have chosen one of the least known ROMs but very light CleaNex STD,and couldnt be happier.
And plaease dont come out and advice me that that kind of ICS ROM already exists for the Note,this is a personal approach and I am willing to wait.
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I tested the Note in store before I brought it and it was terrible on the stock rom there, who knows why people would buy it...
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And yet you bought one!
So maybe a lot of us are expecting great things from devs and the ICS stock build when it eventually arrives!
"but I do miss the s-pen apps".
Well why not just flash a rom that supports them, try it out, see how you go! If you don't like it, just go back to stunner.
I'm using midnote1.0. I believe you can use alba aswell. S-pen apps are working very well. For me, ICS is a massive improvement on GB. Everything is working instantly, and properly too. It really makes a difference.
GAH. Comparing stock anything to an XDA custom Rom isn't fair for a start. Put the latest RocketROM GB v23 up against Stunner and we'll see a contest.
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This is slightly OT now, but I just want to leave a comment on that (of course, this is not going against your opinion smalgal ): I´m not really into TW as well, just because of the one fact that Ißm using my note on smaller DPI settings, where TW really doesn´t make sense anymore.
But beside that I want to get the facts straight (at least imao): TW is far from being laggy or a UI disaster. Quite the opposite: It seems like TouchWiz is by far the most stable launcher I ever came across. I have used a tons of devices now, including the mighty SGSII (which was the fastest till today). And even though Go Launcher Ex, Apex Launcher (on ICS) and a bunch of other good launchers are fast as well, none of them gives me the same stability and reliability like TouchWiz does.
Fastest wakeup from standby, absolutely NO launcher crash, absolutely NO launcher reload, nothing...just working.
Of course, there are some things they really should FINALLY include like compatibility with lower DPI settings, personalized sort order in the drawer etc.
But laggy? Absolutely not.
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TW is not that ugly , and it's definitely not laggy at all ,like you mentioned it's actually the smoothest launcher of them all.
But to be honest ,TW on the note is not as smooth as TW on the SGS2 ,actually the whole stock experience is a lot less refined than the SGS2 ,the launcher tends to reload on the note when a heavy app is loaded ,and that never ever faced me on the SGS2 before.
and since the note's hardware is on par with the S2 ,I'm actually very excited to what improvements ICS will bring along , in comparision I wasn't excited at all for the S2 ICS update cause it was perfect as it is.
but That's not to say the note is a turd to begin with ,far from it actually.
No, you don´t mess with the bootloader by installing ICS stunner. If you mess up your Note, you can allways flash a stock rom through PC Odin and start over.
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Touchwiz is more than just a "launcher." It's a complete UI overlay...and it's ugly, and it's laggy. Maybe I didn't get the same phone everyone else did, no? Touchwiz launcher itself is clumsy and slow, and I personally think it's terrible. I don't know where you people getting off saying it's the best launcher you've ever used. Have you tried them all?
I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.
serkanhiziroglu1998 said:
I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.
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What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth
That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
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What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth
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Firstly thank you for your answer.
I tried tons of roms including ARHD, Insertcoin, GPE Roms, CM. Now I'm with InsertCoin and ElementalX (tried stock kernel too) and after 2 days I got laggy again. I think its not important for me anymore because whenever I ask a question about smoothness I get answers like apps, roms and I try them. I don't install any apps more than 10. Apps I install are generic apps like Twiitter, WhatsApp, TitaniumBackup, Cache cleaner.
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That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
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I got One after watching tons of reviews and its said that its a fast phone. I think I'm obsessed with this smoothness expectation from Android because I used Nexus 4 for 4 months too and I wasn't happy with that too. But still, N4 was much more stable than One for me. :laugh:
I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.
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I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.
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To be honest, your phone is probably laggy because you've rooted it and have flashed the software and firmware multiple times. Run a stock HTC One and it's buttery. Any time I root or jailbreak a phone, I regret it after a while because it seems to screw up the device. I had the 4 and 4S, both were jailbroken and were laggy as hell. My HTC One is pretty unresponsive and laggy, but my girlfriends HTC One is perfect. This phone will definitely be the last phone I ever root/jailbreak.
I have an HTC One
Have always wanted to be on Android, but never really got the "right" feeling for it... tried Samsung Galaxy Nexus when it came, later I tried Samsung Galaxy S3 4G. Thought that one would be a sure thing... seemed it was the android phone every one had.... but was really disappointed... most the poor body, and the sound?
Had an iPhone 5 at this point, got it from work as then hit the market. Had used ios devices before too. They where always smooth and worked.
I always did jailbreak my devices, so you could customize a lot.
But did a 3:rd try for Android, with the HTC ONE.
And this time I aint turning back, sure the build quality in apples products is hard to beat, and I like the screen size a bit more. Even if I have big hands I still feel most phones today are 2hands phones, more or less. Anyhow!
HTC ONE, is running really smooth, I have used a couple of roms, back with Viper at the moment with the ElementarX Kernel.
I never feel that my phone is slow or laggy. Using Nova Launcher.
Would like to run a stable CM 10.2 or 11 thou
I think I experienced this on stock ROM, when my phone was new you could say the smoothness gradually decreased as it filled up with rubbish I guess.
But on ARHD 40.3 I haven't had a problem. Been rocking this ROM since 40.3 was released and see no reason to upgrade or change. Happy where I am with performance and battery life.
While I feel that 4.4/KitKat's new ART runtime does help smooth things out compared to Dalvik, I agree that it's not quite on par with iOS. This is just in scrolling action, though. I feel the One is plenty fast when it comes to processing power and touch response time.
I think it all depends on what you are comparing this phone to. My previous phone came out awhile ago, so of course the HTC One feels very smooth for me.
For me, the smoothest rom is vanilla Android, namely GPE. AOSP roms (like CM) seem to stutter when scrolling, such as in the Settings menu.
If you are comparing Android to iOS, however, there was a post a couple of years ago stating that it is because of how Android renders the interface that makes it laggier than iOS. This is not the post itself, but it breaks it down:
http://www.redmondpie.com/heres-why-androids-ui-will-never-be-as-smooth-as-ios-or-windows-phone-7/
in my opinion,
Facebook or 3rd party integration is the problem; un-link facebook account or at least use your phone without internet connection (3G or wifi i mean) for testing.
i am a one user, with stock 4.3 and happy with it
Thread closed,
As this is not directly related to the HTC One and has become a bit of a phone comparison thread, this is classed as an OT thread and has been clsoed. Please see the link in my signature for OT section in XDA. This would be a better place for threads of this type.
Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer. I like the half year release cycle that sony has with their high end devices, but i think this really is the downside of it, developers seem to stay with the older devices and won't switch every half year.
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Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer.
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What specific support is it missing?
You seem to be asking for something without being clear what it is you feel is lacking or desirable that hasn't already been covered???
For me, there appears to be plenty of stock based and original ROMs - kernels may be another thing. Hardly a reason to flog your phone.
Perhaps it also has something to do with the Stock offerings. Sony appear to have got a good balance of features, so maybe folk feel less inclined to change and just personalise it instead. It sure isn't the lardy TouchWiz. Sense and whatever LG call their UI/UX. Thankfully.
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What specific support is it missing?
You seem to be asking for something without being clear what it is you feel is lacking or desirable that hasn't already been covered???
For me, there appears to be plenty of stock based and original ROMs - kernels may be another thing. Hardly a reason to flog your phone.
Perhaps it also has something to do with the Stock offerings. Sony appear to have got a good balance of features, so maybe folk feel less inclined to change and just personalise it instead. It sure isn't the lardy TouchWiz. Sense and whatever LG call their UI/UX. Thankfully.
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I am not asking for anything, i was just starting an open discussion. Just browse through M8 forums and you see what i mean. Sony does indeed have a very good stock offering but i am missing good kernels for example, with only one kernel which does not seem to get updates for now and is not working with latest firmware i am kind of missing the overclock, underclock, undervolt and other tweaking that i really like to do.
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I am not asking anything, i was just starting an open discussion. Just browse through M8 forums and you see what i mean. Sony does indeed have a very good stock offering but i am missing good kernels for example, with only one kernel which does not seem to get updates for now and is not working with latest firmware i am kind of missing the overclock, underclock, undervolt and other tweaking that i really like.
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I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
I think judging a phone by the number of dev "tweaks" is the opposite of the desired state,
Just my opinion.
Cheers
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I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
Just my opinion.
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Well, what about official Paranoid Android, Dirty Unicorns, CyanogenMod, SlimKat, PAC-man, stuff like that support We have AOKP which i really like but it happens to have some bigs that prevent it from being used as a daily driver.
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Well, what about official Paranoid Android, Dirty Unicorns, CyanogenMod, SlimKat, PAC-man, stuff like that support We have AOKP which i really like but it happens to have some bigs that prevent it from being used as a daily driver.
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There appears to be a number of recognizable ROMs like monx, SLIM and Carbon, plus CM of course. And several others.
I wouldn't judge a phone's support level just because you don't recognise the ROM names... personally I prefer something different rather than a copycat approach - running PAC on one phone is like running PAC on another - yawn! New ground and all that.
Just my 2 cents, but since the XposedMods took over there is not so much call for Custom Mods because most of it can be done with Xposed now. I think that was one of the main reasons for Custom Roms. AOKP and CynaogenMod and derivatives of it take care of the rest.
While I agree with all the points from various members here, I have to agree with OP. Yes there are ROMs based on stock, yes there is CM support but I would like to see PA, SlimKat etc too. I'm running stock with xposed at the moment and I'm happy with it but I'd love to be able to flash PA due to their features etc. Having said that though, there's definitely no reason to sell the phone for a M8 or G3 because IMO, the Z2 has the most useful/meaningful features over all for the money you pay for it.
The z2 has only just been released in the US and even then I'm not sure if the US carriers are offering it yet, I'm sure we will start to see more devs for our device soon
The Sony stock ROM's are great. And with Xposed you can get everything you'd need a custom ROM before.
So the need for different Custom ROM's has gone down.
Kernels are another thing. But to get a good Kernel working with lots of tweaks seems to be a little more dificult than cooking a ROM.
i wouldn't say the development for the Z2 is dead, it just had it's first peak that came from "it's new" now it is/was decreasing and will start growing again, when more people buy this phone.
LenAsh said:
I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
I think judging a phone by the number of dev "tweaks" is the opposite of the desired state,
Just my opinion.
Cheers
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A good kernel is as important as a good ROM. Stock kernels pale in comparison.
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GiGi. said:
selling my Z2 and get a M8
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M8?? when the LG G3 is now available?
Still waiting custom kernel for CM.
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And I'm waiting for soundmod. Not that Z2's sound is bad, but I know that it could be better with help of devs.
G3 is a lag machine. I'm torn on the m8 as the camera isn't great but the lg is a beta device. Really unsure of a phone right now.
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And I'm waiting for soundmod. Not that Z2's sound is bad, but I know that it could be better with help of devs.
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There's at least 3 sound mods already, that's not including viper or beats
Oh, I've been searching for them and found nothing. Im talking about that ones, which are improving sound quality, not boosting volume etc. Could you please send me links to that mods?
Give it time. Z2 Dev section will skyrocket. And yh, there is a there is a thread to contribute. So we can get more devs on board? Do you want that? Now you know what to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746493
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Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer. I like the half year release cycle that sony has with their high end devices, but i think this really is the downside of it, developers seem to stay with the older devices and won't switch every half year.
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The different of Z1 and Z2 is not big(though all way improved from screen, speaker, cpu, ram to headphone) but majority of people decided to stay with Z1. Z1 board got much more people there.
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!
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Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.
Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.
Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.
Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since
Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.
No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.
Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.
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I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.
My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?
My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.
After many years away from KitKat (2 years?), and a long list of nuisances (5.0 had neverending problems with Xposed, 5.1.1, any version, would close an app out of a sudden, and put my back to a sluggish, slow slow loading Home Screen), i took the decision and go back in time, and reinstall the golden - to me - version of android for the Z1: 4.4.4.
And yes its working fast fast as it should be with so powerful insides.
I dont know whats the problem with the newer versions, its not about lack of power on behalf of the Z1. It feels like memory leaks.
The KitKat isnt much different than every other versions that came after it. Tbh, the whole design got nailed down during IceCream and got prettier and prettier, but its essentially the same alot of years now.
What did i miss from 5.1.1? Quiet Hours. But i downloaded an app that does exactly that. I didnt even bother to root or apply TWRP.
Just wanted a fast computer that can make phones, play media, surf the Internet, make use of VoIP. !
I prefer 5.1.1
Well I have swayed a few times back and forth with 4.4 and 5.1 on my Xperia Z1, I've researched and got to the point where I realized the 5.1 improved this device a lot
Pros:
1. The battery life got a lot better
2. Precise multi touch up to 10 fingers (and more maybe)
3. Design is awesome
Cons:
1. There is some bug with the microphone, when I switch to loudspeaker during a call and switch back to phone mode then the other party will not hear me, so I avoid clicking that "Loud" button
So as you can see, for me there are more pros than cons in the update so I stick with it
I cant argue the fact that for you the 5.1 is working perfectly. Sadly for me its the exact opposite, whether its rooted or unrooted.
The 4.4.4 gives me all the good things the newer versions should give me, sans the updated interface.
Kitkat has slight lag compared to 5.1
On 5.1.1. Greenify is all I ever need off of root. With a little bit of "headroom" thanks to Greenify, I actually have my Z1 clock limited at 1.037GHz. Not laggy and perfectly usable.
i m on 5.1.1 and rooted with custom stock based rom and i dont have any major probs and no lags...m using my phone continuously(camera,watching videos,listening music,internet browsing,downloading files.) and m getting 1 and half day decent battery life i.e very good battery life. if i start using phone little lesser i may get upto 2 days battery life...
İ use Xperia z1 (c6903)5.1.1 .three days ago i uploaded mx rom v8.5.0....Normally everything is very beautiful but battery performance very very bad.i watching movie and The battery draining quickly.example my charge is %35 but later 1 minute %0. My english bad sorry.last month i try 4.3 jb and 4.4.4 kitkat.battery performance is perfectly.i want to back 4.3 jb...
I remember buying a Z1 for €630 when they came out brand new. It was so fast (I had been using phones like the first galaxy mini and iphone 3gs). I noticed even though it's still fast on 5.1 it always felt like it was faster using the older firmware for some reason. I have a Galaxy S7 now but I still own a Z1 too because I think it's still a really good phone, even 3 years later. I'm wondering whether to use a custom rom on the z1 and if so I have no idea which one to choose. The Z1 is a lot better than the first Z in terms of speed and battery life and I think the phone was ahead of it's time when they made it. It was the biggest upgrade from Z to Z1 than any other new Sony phone that came out after that in my opinion. You'd still use a Z1 now but with a Z you'd complain that it's going slow or that the battery is terrible.
As I said though before going too far off topic, I always felt that the phone ran smoother on kitkat than it does on lollipop. I have no idea why, maybe it's the ram usage or the way it reminds me of when I first bought a Z1.