I would like to replace the head unit in my Toyota Camry LE 2007 with a Android one. I am currently looking into Joying & Ownice models. In the Joyice thread, there were complaints about the bluetooth audio being very bad. Does Ownice units have this problem? I apologize for creating a new thread, but the Ownice thread has become too big.
Just so people coming across this thread won't get a bad idea, I am posting this. Looks like Joying's BT is only an issue when you are on phone with somebody.
1) Bluetooth audio quality streaming music from my phone, or from phone calls, to the head unit = excellent. Works like a charm.
2) Bluetooth audio quality that the PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PHONE hear, not so good. It is better since doing the mic mod detailed in this thread, but the road noise and echo that the caller on the other end hears is not good. It honestly doesn't bother me much, since I don't have to hear it, but they constantly are asking me if my window is down. This could potentially be from:
A) Needing a better microphone
B) Needing a better microphone jack
C) Needing a better head unit
Either way, I don't hear it and I don't talk to people that much while driving, so not a big deal to me.
If number 1 above is your problem, try updating your MCU or trying a new rom. There might also be some volume settings to play with in Factory Settings code "126". If none of that works, contact joying for a replacement.
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Ownice units have different problems like reboots and app data loss.
I own an Ownice C200 v3 (they produce the C200 units for Navall to) and overall i am satisfied, good radio receiver from NXP, especially about the bluetooth 3.0, which is clear on both sides, good audio sound...
The only sad thing are those reboots and app loses, although it is much less with the latest updates. They working on those problems but the progress is slow.
unni_kmr said:
I would like to replace the head unit in my Toyota Camry LE 2007 with a Android one. I am currently looking into Joying & Ownice models. In the Joyice thread, there were complaints about the bluetooth audio being very bad. Does Ownice units have this problem? I apologize for creating a new thread, but the Ownice thread has become too big.
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I'm looking on the same models but Ownice is proposing 2 GB Ram so I guess it should be better than 1 Gb.
What did you choose?
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I purchased a new Joying head unit 30 days ago and the mic really sucks bad even after mod's, this is a major deal breaker for me. I am about to order another unit (Ownice 8" model OL-7606) but thought I would ask you great folks first. Here is my set up and must have's out of the box: what unit would be best for me is the question.....
2010 VW Jetta
5 Channel Amp
Steering wheel controls (12 Button)
Back up camera
Must have's
Bluetooth Networking with phone (for the following)
Good clear Ext. Mic ( I live in my car on the phone with customers daily)
Phone
Calendar
Mail
Contacts
TomTom or Garmin (USA)
Then the rest we can work through
stranded android stuff
Thank You Everyone
SteveOOO
PS Joying unit up for sale mic mods done but major echo going on with a low buzzing nose or it becomes baseball practice on utube and sent to joying on what my thoughts are of there units....
stevewabc1 said:
I purchased a new Joying head unit 30 days ago and the mic really sucks bad even after mod's, this is a major deal breaker for me. I am about to order another unit (Ownice 8" model OL-7606) but thought I would ask you great folks first. Here is my set up and must have's out of the box: what unit would be best for me is the question.....
2010 VW Jetta
5 Channel Amp
Steering wheel controls (12 Button)
Back up camera
Must have's
Bluetooth Networking with phone (for the following)
Good clear Ext. Mic ( I live in my car on the phone with customers daily)
Phone
Calendar
Mail
Contacts
TomTom or Garmin (USA)
Then the rest we can work through
stranded android stuff
Thank You Everyone
SteveOOO
PS Joying unit up for sale mic mods done but major echo going on with a low buzzing nose or it becomes baseball practice on utube and sent to joying on what my thoughts are of there units....
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WOW No one wants to through their input into this?
I'm in a similar position trying to find a cheap android hu with decent bluetooth. I was looking at an eonon, but found these avinusa units which supposedly have parrot bluetooth - https://avinusa.com/7-universal-dou...android-multimedia-navigation-system-159.html
I own a parrot asteroid smart and it has been a great unit but the software and hardware is dated now. The bluetooth handsfree and voice command are awesome though so I'm very interested in how these avinusa units are. If you do get one I'd love to hear your feedback on it or any other unit you get.
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I previously had a carjoying and had the same bs. horrible bt call quality even after mods.
I have a AN-21U 2nd gen unit now, built specifically for my car and BT quality is excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...nd-generation-4-4-2-android-21u-ouku-t3230587
It does have some quirks about the way the unit handles BT (treats BT as separate device from unit instead of part of the unit), but it's still really good and a huge improvement over carjoying.
I just purchased a new 7" Joying 5.1.1 mtcd unit. The audio during a Bluetooth call is awful. It comes through so broken up I can barely understand the person talking to me. It's not my phone either because I tried another Bluetooth headset and it worked fine. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Per mtcb thread, the same mic issues exists as almostevery cheap chinese head unit, including the wince units. The solution is to physically and electrically disconnect the internal microphone and connect a quality external microphone. Forget the cheap Chinese external mics and source a local lapel electret microphone. The difference will be night and day! Installation is important too - suggest mounting on steering column or (best) pointing back toward driver near rear view mirror (window acts as a parabolic reflector.) Keep away from sides/side window to minimise road noise.
marchnz said:
Per mtcb thread, the same mic issues exists as almostevery cheap chinese head unit, including the wince units. The solution is to physically and electrically disconnect the internal microphone and connect a quality external microphone. Forget the cheap Chinese external mics and source a local lapel electret microphone. The difference will be night and day! Installation is important too - suggest mounting on steering column or (best) pointing back toward driver near rear view mirror (window acts as a parabolic reflector.) Keep away from sides/side window to minimise road noise.
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I have read a little about that and it seems that will only fix the outgoing sound(my voice). Will it help the incoming sound that I get from whoever I am talking to on the phone?
Rahbui said:
I have read a little about that and it seems that will only fix the outgoing sound(my voice). Will it help the incoming sound that I get from whoever I am talking to on the phone?
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This might help the incoming sound if the outgoing is really bad as some outgoing is mixed. The mic mod exponentially improves outbound audio so suggest making the modification and testing your results.
I bought a 7" Carjoying (Android 4.4.4 kitkat; CPU: RK3188 1.6GHz Cortex A9 Quad Core) last january for my 98 ford ranger. While running wires for the GPS, I went ahead and installed the external mic(came with the unit) on my sun visor. People have no issues hearing me, unless I'm on the freeway with the window down. I did not disconnect the head unit mic.
Rahbui said:
I just purchased a new 7" Joying 5.1.1 mtcd unit. The audio during a Bluetooth call is awful. It comes through so broken up I can barely understand the person talking to me. It's not my phone either because I tried another Bluetooth headset and it worked fine. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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I had the same issues. The audio quality from the one speaker did improve some after updating the software.
Phredeee said:
I had the same issues. The audio quality from the one speaker did improve some after updating the software.
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i agree, i went from the Joying June update to the mid-August MCU update and I think it does sound better. Still not great, but better
I want to get a Android head unit for my 2011 VW Polo.
Both looks good, Ownice has a build in 4G modem. both are Android 6 with Quad core, 2GB of ram and 32GB of rom.
I've seen this thread but with no real answer..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...s/ownice-c500-2gb-16gb-cortex-a53-vs-t3524129
Any thoughts?
Ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Own...VD-GPS-Radio-for-VW-Golf-5-6/32654961721.html
Joying:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...32221744453.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.1ou0ky
Thanks!
The ownice has a dvd slot
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Z2 Pro met Tapatalk
IpDo said:
I want to get a Android head unit for my 2011 VW Polo.
Both looks good, Ownice has a build in 4G modem. both are Android 6 with Quad core, 2GB of ram and 32GB of rom.
I've seen this thread but with no real answer..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...s/ownice-c500-2gb-16gb-cortex-a53-vs-t3524129
Any thoughts?
Ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Own...VD-GPS-Radio-for-VW-Golf-5-6/32654961721.html
Joying:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...32221744453.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.1ou0ky
Thanks!
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As long as you don't tell us what you expectations are, what features do you need or how are you are gonna use the unit we could never be able to guess so we could make a proper recommendation.
Ok,
what I need in both:
* good radio (my main source for music while driving)
* good BT connectivity (so calls and contact view while call is made)
* decent sound output (using my 2 original speakers and 2 extra mid range for the rear)
* I will connect the unit using 4G - but I have a usb modem that works with android so the Joying is working option aswell.
* good GPS
* no need for a DVD
I believe that both units qualify my needs - so in all other areas - which one is a better choice?
IpDo said:
I want to get a Android head unit for my 2011 VW Polo.
Both looks good, Ownice has a build in 4G modem. both are Android 6 with Quad core, 2GB of ram and 32GB of rom.
I've seen this thread but with no real answer..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...s/ownice-c500-2gb-16gb-cortex-a53-vs-t3524129
Any thoughts?
Ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Own...VD-GPS-Radio-for-VW-Golf-5-6/32654961721.html
Joying:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...32221744453.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.1ou0ky
Thanks!
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If your main interest is listening radio DONT BUY the ownice. Radio reception is very poor and does not support RDS.
All other features works well (BT, GPS, sound quality is adecuate, etc.) But in my unit the microSD slot does not work and the radio is useless. I nned to use internet radio using 4G built in.
IpDo said:
Ok,
what I need in both:
* good radio (my main source for music while driving)
* good BT connectivity (so calls and contact view while call is made)
* decent sound output (using my 2 original speakers and 2 extra mid range for the rear)
* I will connect the unit using 4G - but I have a usb modem that works with android so the Joying is working option aswell.
* good GPS
* no need for a DVD
I believe that both units qualify my needs - so in all other areas - which one is a better choice?
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Whatever you do, do not buy a unit where there is no alternative ROM like Malaysk available. The Firmware in Ownice is absolute crap and they are not delivering any updates to fix the myriad of problems. The Firmware in Joying seems to be a bit better but still very few updates available.
Regards
Kurt Lund
IpDo said:
Ok,
what I need in both:
* good radio (my main source for music while driving)
* good BT connectivity (so calls and contact view while call is made)
* decent sound output (using my 2 original speakers and 2 extra mid range for the rear)
* I will connect the unit using 4G - but I have a usb modem that works with android so the Joying is working option aswell.
* good GPS
* no need for a DVD
I believe that both units qualify my needs - so in all other areas - which one is a better choice?
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I am using an Joying with Intel Sofia so
- the radio reception is decent (to good) but I have a pretty long antenna on the roof so I can't comment for short ones . For music is not adequate, the dynamic range is bad (poor bass and highs), for news and talk shows is good enough. The RDS implementation in software is bad. My previous unit an Witson with an RK3066 CPU and 1Gb of RAM had an even worse FM radio hardware so I might call it an upgrade on the Joying. I haven;t used it in the last unit and I still don't use it in this one I rather stream the FM channels from the internet.
- the BT connectivity is good, with some modding you can use tether via BT something that is rarely seen on the chinese units (if ever). The app on the other hand has that annoying behavior (that I have encountered on many other Chinese units no matter the maker, or hardware configuration), once you get a call the app gets stuck on the screen, covering half the screen, you can't switch to any other app if you need to.... When you make a call the app covers all the screen and you can't get out of it if for instance you need to have a look at the map while driving... so you can't hear directions or view the map.
- it has poor sound quality for my taste but so all the chinese units have out of the box, no surprise here, but once you root the unit and install Viper4Android it gets a lot better...
- can't comment on the modems... I tether via BT and works great
- it has GLONASS with very good signal quality... I always have AT LEAST 12-15 satellites locked
Have a look at my Q&A thread, I am sure it will answer a lot of your questions and help you taking the right decision.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ts/intel-sofia-to-micro-tutorials-qa-t3616074
owince
hi
y have owice C500 8core 2go y enjoy it!
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hi
y have owice C500 8core 2go y enjoy it!
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That kind of answer does not help him at all.
Don't forget customs taxes/VAT depending on what country you live in. The same priced multimedia device might become much more expensive. I myself was thinking between ownice, dasaita and Joying. Decided to go with Joying mostly because there was an option to get it from Germany. Also I have already ordered small heatsinks with Joying cooling in mind.
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I am using an Joying with Intel Sofia so
- the radio reception is decent (to good) but I have a pretty long antenna on the roof so I can't comment for short ones . For music is not adequate, the dynamic range is bad (poor bass and highs), for news and talk shows is good enough. The RDS implementation in software is bad. My previous unit an Witson with an RK3066 CPU and 1Gb of RAM had an even worse FM radio hardware so I might call it an upgrade on the Joying. I haven;t used it in the last unit and I still don't use it in this one I rather stream the FM channels from the internet.
- the BT connectivity is good, with some modding you can use tether via BT something that is rarely seen on the chinese units (if ever). The app on the other hand has that annoying behavior (that I have encountered on many other Chinese units no matter the maker, or hardware configuration), once you get a call the app gets stuck on the screen, covering half the screen, you can't switch to any other app if you need to.... When you make a call the app covers all the screen and you can't get out of it if for instance you need to have a look at the map while driving... so you can't hear directions or view the map.
- it has poor sound quality for my taste but so all the chinese units have out of the box, no surprise here, but once you root the unit and install Viper4Android it gets a lot better...
- can't comment on the modems... I tether via BT and works great
- it has GLONASS with very good signal quality... I always have AT LEAST 12-15 satellites locked
Have a look at my Q&A thread, I am sure it will answer a lot of your questions and help you taking the right decision.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ts/intel-sofia-to-micro-tutorials-qa-t3616074
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I can live with the radio problems.. but the BT sounds like a mess.
do anyone know about a unit that don't have this problems (calls that make the gps navi unavailable)?
Anyone?
And with Joying still the best option,
does anyone knows if those 2 are the same product? one is 5.1 and the other is android 6 (looks like the same hardware to me):
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...Tiguan-Golf-5-6-Bora/1463369_32385256614.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-GOLF-6-new-polo-New/1463369_32221744453.html
IpDo said:
Anyone?
And with Joying still the best option,
does anyone knows if those 2 are the same product? one is 5.1 and the other is android 6 (looks like the same hardware to me):
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...Tiguan-Golf-5-6-Bora/1463369_32385256614.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-GOLF-6-new-polo-New/1463369_32221744453.html
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If you would have looked better at the model name you would have seen they are the same.
i'm new to the forum but have been lurking and reading up for quite a while on these android head units.
I need to replace the head unit in my 2009 Subaru Forester. I kind of a gadget freak, so these android units caught my eye. I was interested in the DSP units from androidautoshop.com but they warned me away from them and recommended their FX8 units (though they didn't really say why except that they were better quality).
The option I was looking at before the DSP unit was a new XTRONS unit which I could get from amazon. They seem to be well regarded from what I've read and the sound quality sounds like it's pretty good with the new amp chips they are using. Now just the other day I ran across a Dasaita unit on amazon that is specific fit for my vehicle so it wouldn't need an installation kit and BONUS has a 9" screen!
Does anyone have any insight on these units? If I go with an android unit it's going to be to satisfy my tech geek so I'm going to want to be able to customize it.
I need it to have good sound. Doesn't have to be audiophile quality, but good.
Decent to good FM reception.
good connection for Bluetooth (i've heard in particular that some of these units have both connection and sound quality issues with bluetooth)
ability to connect to an ODBII sensor for my car. One that I choose, not dictated to me by the head unit company prefereably.
ability to connect to an aftermarket rear view camera.
able to use Waze and Google maps. preferably with audible directions. also offline mapping for those occasions when I don't have a cell connection.
Ideally I would be connecting these direct to speakers, with the possiblity of adding external amplification down the road.
AndroidAutoShop.com FX8 - I have concerns about them and they don't really say much about why this unit is the best.
XTRONS - seems to be popular from what i've read, though i'm not sure about the bluetooth
Dasaita - love the look of the 9" screen with no ugly install kit. Quite a bit more expensive but possibly worth it? I just can't find much info about these. I think I read somewhere on this site that they were pretty good, but I don't know where and it wasn't about this specific unit.
I'm not allowed to post links to the 3 units above yet, but the first one is on androidautoshop and the last 2 are readily available on Amazon.
Are any of these a good choice for me? or possibly a different recommendation? or should I just forget it and go with a higher end Kenwood or Pioneer head unit with Android Auto and use an HDMI for any video needs? I'm not against tinkering and these seem like a really cool option (possibly saving money over traditional head untis as well) but I don't want to get a giant headache that just never works right.
any help from you guys is greatly appreciated.
Hi everyone,
I recently bought a used 2010 Prius with an android HU. It's unbranded (noname) and pretty weak (1gb ram). I could live with the android performance issues but the microphone is driving me crazy. Nobody can hear what i'm saying. The unit has an external mic and i wanted to upgrade it to a different one but for some reason, the mic that's connected to the HU has 5 wires (last picture) and the one i ordered only 2 (mono jack). There's also no mic jack. Here are my questions:
1. Is there a way to connect a different mono mic?
2. Does anyone have any idea what unit this is and where i can find a wiring diagram?
3. Can you recommend a better unit? I like the ones that look more like stock, with physical buttons.
4. Any known fix for the error in the picture? "Software has not been authorized legally" when trying to use Easyconnect to mirror my phone.
I need any info i can get, you don't have to have all the answers
Thanks!
I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.
Not an MTCD, requesting mod moves to [Android Head units] forum.
jlbooth said:
I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.
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Thanks for the reply. I've done that first the problem is there are multiple manufacturers with multiple configurations. I contacted Seicane and am still in the process of identifying the unit/software with them but the back and forth is pretty slow..
This is not your "standard" moddable unit, I'm afraid. Most information here and on forums like 4PDA is on units based on 2 main technologies:
1. 8227L Mediatek, system: YT921xx
2. Rockchip PX3, PX5, PX6, PX30 based on MTCx chip.
By having a quick look at what you got, the mic is the least of your problems. These units are packed with so called features but need considerable hardware and software modding to make them work and even excel.
Here is an example of one such modded units, started off as cheap £70 Android, and ended up performing on par with luxury Android units. The video shows the mods, just to give you an understanding.
To save you time, invest in a Dasaita MTCE unit as that one requires least mods to perform well. You can find them for around £200 on AliExpress. Good luck!
Thanks for the info. I'll look into one of the PX chips and go for dasaita.
so i've found a single Dasaita unit for Prius G3 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001625066855.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.20fa2e0eCiCqeA
The problem is i can't find this model on Dasaita website or store and i'm not sure it's real. I've emailed Dasaita but no reply..
There are multiple units from diferent brands (Ownice, Wondefoo..). Can i go for one of those? What should i look for?
Some sellers list the "K6 plus" version as the top of the line. Should i still go for PX6 or is that better?