First question for the section? Google Project fi (5) - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Any one know if the Nexus ^p or what name it is called to be Google Project 5 compatible? Rumors are always welcome.

I can't see a brand new Nexus not supporting Project Fi. That said I used Project Fi for a month and it wasn't such a great experience. Even with TWO networks, they lacked the coverage Cricket Wireless (AT&T) provides around these parts, and across the country where I travel to in 23 States.
So glad I got the Cricket Wireless 20GB plan when it came out.

I tend to think they'd support it too, but I did read the fine print somewhere on the Google site that said the only phone they'd support for the trial run of Fi would be the Nexus 6. But who knows, they could "officially" launch around the same time too, or simply change their minds.

nexus 6p will support it, i have a leaked system image, and the fi app is in the image

BeansTown106 said:
nexus 6p will support it, i have a leaked system image, and the fi app is in the image
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anything in the image that hasn't been leaked out specs wise? and what about the 5x?

metaphz said:
I can't see a brand new Nexus not supporting Project Fi. That said I used Project Fi for a month and it wasn't such a great experience. Even with TWO networks, they lacked the coverage Cricket Wireless (AT&T) provides around these parts, and across the country where I travel to in 23 States.
So glad I got the Cricket Wireless 20GB plan when it came out.
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How about network speed?
I am using StraightTalk right now but it's so slow.

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Nexus 7 LTE on Verizon - a tale of success.

Nothing new here and no, I was not able to walk into a Verizon store and activate my Nexus 7, but I consider this reasonably successful with some effort and possibly-wasted cash involved
So I bought the Nexus 7 LTE as soon as it was available and have been using it on T-mobile. It's been great, but I get zero signal in my work and I don't always want to be on wifi. I had a mission to get this working on Verizon and I don't have a Verizon account at all. I'm a new customer.
I read about the SIM swapping and the Nexus 7 working fine, so I figured I'd do just that. I wanted a decent-sized data plan and noticed they have a 5gb plan for $50 for mobile hotspots. So, off to Craigslist I went. I found a Verizon Jetpack 4510L for $20. I thought this was the deal of the century, until I realized that's pretty much what a two year old hotspot sells for everywhere
I bought it and went straight to Verizon, activated it on the 5gb plan and took it home. I also get 20% off for corporate discount, so that was nice to apply to the $50. I took the SIM out, cut it down to a micro-SIM for the Nexus 7 and put it in. It worked, as expected, after a simple restart.
Here's where I'm just blown away: I believe this is connecting to their new AWS spectrum. I read a few articles this week about how Verizon had turned on their AWS 1700/2100 spectrum on Band 4. Of course, the Nexus 7 supports this out of the box! First speed test I did is attached below, as well as the next two. WOW! With the hotspot, I was getting ~10mbps just while I was verifying it worked on the Jetpack, but when I put the SIM into the Nexus 7 the results were astounding. I only get two bars of service at my house as well (which is in San Jose, CA for what it's worth).
Anyway, this tactic can of course be used if you already have a Share Everything plan with Verizon as well, but I believe they charge $20 to add a Jetpack rather than just the normal $10 for a tablet. I know, it sucks, and hopefully they fix this issue in their system...but that's neither here nor there. I'm not a proponent of Verizon in any way, but I'm pleased with the price of the 5gb plan for what I'm getting.
Cheers!
-Collin-
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Nothing new here and no, I was not able to walk into a Verizon store and activate my Nexus 7, but I consider this reasonably successful with some effort and possibly-wasted cash involved
So I bought the Nexus 7 LTE as soon as it was available and have been using it on T-mobile. It's been great, but I get zero signal in my work and I don't always want to be on wifi. I had a mission to get this working on Verizon and I don't have a Verizon account at all. I'm a new customer.
I read about the SIM swapping and the Nexus 7 working fine, so I figured I'd do just that. I wanted a decent-sized data plan and noticed they have a 5gb plan for $50 for mobile hotspots. So, off to Craigslist I went. I found a Verizon Jetpack 4510L for $20. I thought this was the deal of the century, until I realized that's pretty much what a two year old hotspot sells for everywhere
I bought it and went straight to Verizon, activated it on the 5gb plan and took it home. I also get 20% off for corporate discount, so that was nice to apply to the $50. I took the SIM out, cut it down to a micro-SIM for the Nexus 7 and put it in. It worked, as expected, after a simple restart.
Here's where I'm just blown away: I believe this is connecting to their new AWS spectrum. I read a few articles this week about how Verizon had turned on their AWS 1700/2100 spectrum on Band 4. Of course, the Nexus 7 supports this out of the box! First speed test I did is attached below, as well as the next two. WOW! With the hotspot, I was getting ~10mbps just while I was verifying it worked on the Jetpack, but when I put the SIM into the Nexus 7 the results were astounding. I only get two bars of service at my house as well (which is in San Jose, CA for what it's worth).
Anyway, this tactic can of course be used if you already have a Share Everything plan with Verizon as well, but I believe they charge $20 to add a Jetpack rather than just the normal $10 for a tablet. I know, it sucks, and hopefully they fix this issue in their system...but that's neither here nor there. I'm not a proponent of Verizon in any way, but I'm pleased with the price of the 5gb plan for what I'm getting.
Cheers!
-Collin-
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IMPRESSIVE! I did basically the same thing, Jetpack to N7, and also in SJ but I'm only getting at best 13 Mbps each direction. I am about a mile south of downtown SJ. I will try other areas when I am out and about.
Question: Was your device on the new build KVT49L for VZW improvements or are you at build K0T49H? I'm afraid to upgrade to the new one - going to wait a week or so if I can hold out as I don't want to lose the tether (nobody is reported it was taken but I am paranoid with VZW!)
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IMPRESSIVE! I did basically the same thing, Jetpack to N7, and also in SJ but I'm only getting at best 13 Mbps each direction. I am about a mile south of downtown SJ. I will try other areas when I am out and about.
Question: Was your device on the new build KVT49L for VZW improvements or are you at build K0T49H? I'm afraid to upgrade to the new one - going to wait a week or so if I can hold out as I don't want to lose the tether (nobody is reported it was taken but I am paranoid with VZW!)
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I've had a Nexus 7 LTE (2013) since it came out on Google Play store. It worked perfectly as an LTE device with the SIM out of one of my Verizon phones with unlimited LTE data.
I installed the update as soon as it was offered on my N7 last week. Ever since then, network connectivity while on LTE has been very frustrating. I'll have 3-4 bars LTE showing on the status bar, but Chrome, Waze, etc., all lose network connectivity. Some apps, like Amazon, work fine, so maybe some kind of DNS or google server issue?
Anyways, it can't be coincidence, this behavior did not begin until allowing the patch. Proceed with caution, IMHO.
You are using LTE Advanced service. Not many places have the service. I know NYC metro area has it. You can get access to the bands on the Verizon S4 through root and service mode. Guys in NYC are getting 90+ on the download. Its supposed to be on Note 3 as well. Im sure a future update to the S4 and higher will get access to these bands. But Verizon is probably still waiting for more deployment.
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Would this work on the WiFi n7 2013? If got an old droid x that could be a sim donor already.

Project Fi?

Hi,
When I heard about Project Fi, I requested an invite without fully understanding what it was (because I just like requesting invites to cool tech stuff). I got my invite today, and I have a few questions about it before I sign up:
1) What exactly is Project Fi? Is it worth it (I currently have T-Mobile, FWIW)?
2) Has anyone tried Project Fi on the Moto X Pure? I'm aware of the articles that claim that the MXP works on Project Fi "unofficially", but I'm wondering if anyone on XDA has given it a try. If so, what are the limitations?
3) Is official Project Fi compatibility cool enough to ditch the MXP in favor of the Nexus 5X or 6P?
Same boat as you I got my invite today but haven't signed up not 100% sure what its all about I really haven't looked into it though
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The website videos explain almost everything.
$20/month for unlimited talk and text + $10 per GB of data, paid up front. Any data you don't use gets refunded (as granular as $2.37).
Ideally it works with T-Mobile and Sprint, where the phone smartly detects which is stronger in your current spot and uses it.
Moto X Pure can be activated on Fi, but doesn't seem to handle switching networks, and just connects to T-Mobile and sticks there.
For now I would stick with T-Mobile. I have an invite to Fi as well, but I already am on the $30/month unlimited data plan with T-Mobile and like it.
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I already am on the $30/month unlimited data plan with T-Mobile and like it.
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Do you have a link for this?
-Funk
It is only connecting us to T-Mobile and WiFi calling is not working. So says other MXPE owners that tried it.
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Do you have a link for this?
-Funk
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http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/other-prepaid-plans
Scroll down to the 30/35 plans.
The $30/month only gets you 100 talk minutes, but my main number is on Google Voice, so I can use VoIP to avoid using minutes (with no noticeable degradation in quality, as long as I have a halfway decent signal).
Your not on a contract with project Fi, so if you don't like it you can use your phone on any carrier. It doesn't really work right with any other phone as there is a special radio in the Nexus 6 and the 2 new phones. I would suggest you sign up for the Fi spy app you first have to sign up to be a beta tester and then they will let you get the app. It lets you change carriers at will. I stay on T-Mobile all the time and if it switches back to Sprint, I change it right back. It's just a push and it automatically enters the codes for you.
Good luck
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Nexus 6P with Project Fi !

Hey Guys/Gals
How many of are you thinking switch to Project Fi, once you have the Nexus 6p. For me I ordered nexus 6p from play store then order Fi from Fi lol but most likely they will come same time. I am on TMO unlimited, but most of the time I am on wifi so I will be saving good amount of money I guess. lets share your thoughts on Fi
#graphitebros :cyclops:
Am already using Fi as my secondary account: have ordered my 6P and my Fi sim and it looks like the Fi sim will be here first. Am traveling to Puerto Rico tomorrow so will test out Fi there as I hear it is working well there.
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Am already using Fi as my secondary account: have ordered my 6P and my Fi sim and it looks like the Fi sim will be here first. Am traveling to Puerto Rico tomorrow so will test out Fi there as I hear it is working well there.
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How is the service, is there any drop call or sometimes ?
Honestly I have been using sporadically so I can't make a definitive judgement but haven't had any issues yet. I will know more starting tomorrow when I begin heavier usage or at least hope to. I was in PR a few months ago and VZW was god awful: only 3g at best when there was a signal.
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Debating switching from T-mobile. Currently on a 1gb individual plan for $60/mo including taxes. I'm sure I would save money switching to Fi, but I don't think I can give up music freedom, which is what allows me to stay within 1gb of data per month.
I've been on Fi for a couple of months now with my N6 daily driver. You must remember that any carrier's service is highly subjective, varying greatly due to location, the layout and construction of any enclosure (building, car, etc.), a specific device's reception capabilities, and about a thousand other things. So, it may be fantastic for one person, and absolutely horrid for another.
Having said that, I'm generally happy with the service. It's still an "Early Access" (beta) service right now, so yes, there have been some issues, and the switching from carrier to carrier (or wi-fi) isn't perfectly seamless, but it works most of the time. In my area, AT&T, my former carrier, was absolutely horrid. By that, I mean... things like, my in-laws' house is about 3 blocks away from the AT&T tower, yet I get zero signal there. Not even kidding. While my N6 shows that my average "bars" aren't really that different than what AT&T showed, I've yet to have a dropped call, or any lack of service. The only hiccup I've ever had is the inability to answer a call from time to time, which is admittedly hella annoying, but it's been rare, and at least I can always call right back. Of course, the N6 isn't the most stable phone on the planet, so I can't conclusively point the finger at Fi for the few issues I've had. (By the way, at my in-laws' house, I have a perfect signal, via their wi-fi -- including cellular voice. Yea, Fi.)
Right now, Fi switches between T-Mo and Sprint, using come super-duper complicated algorithm... which seems to essentially be: If signal from one is lost, try the other. It's not yet very good at actually picking the strongest signal, or (as others have reported -- I haven't really seen it) even selecting a 4G signal over a 3G one. However, this is improving, and I've no doubt that it will continue to do so. Oh, and I should point out that in many places, such as several restaurants in my area, it doesn't matter, because it will happily use a strong open wi-fi signal instaead. When it does, you'll automatically get hooked up with a VPN tunnel for security, and any data usage won't count against your data pool. I've made and received calls over such connections with no issues, and excellent clarity.
My point with all of this is to tell you whether or not you'll like Fi... and my answer would be: Maybe. It has it's pros and cons, most of which are widely known. The rest are pretty much identical to any other carrier. Is it worth a try? Sure. Can it save you money? If you're a light data user, sure. If not, then probably not. I can only tell you that I'm still using Fi as my daily driver. My wife just got her invite, and will be using Fi as her daily driver when her Nexus 5X arrives. By January, we could both be very happy Fi customers, or we could both be somewhere else. The very best thing about Fi is: We are under no obligation to stay, and if it ever stops working for us, we can leave with no ETF.
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Debating switching from T-mobile. Currently on a 1gb individual plan for $60/mo including taxes. I'm sure I would save money switching to Fi, but I don't think I can give up music freedom, which is what allows me to stay within 1gb of data per month.
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I am paying $66 for unlimited talk, text, and data and the mostly data I use streaming music. But I am getting 64GB so I will download the music using wifi every now and then so I will be fine. You can download the music to your device and try
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I am paying $66 for unlimited talk, text, and data and the mostly data I use streaming music. But I am getting 64GB so I will download the music using wifi every now and then so I will be fine. You can download the music to your device and try
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Were you grandfathered into that price point? I don't know how you can leave that deal...
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I've been on Fi for a couple of months now with my N6 daily driver. You must remember that any carrier's service is highly subjective, varying greatly due to location, the layout and construction of any enclosure (building, car, etc.), a specific device's reception capabilities, and about a thousand other things. So, it may be fantastic for one person, and absolutely horrid for another.
Having said that, I'm generally happy with the service. It's still an "Early Access" (beta) service right now, so yes, there have been some issues, and the switching from carrier to carrier (or wi-fi) isn't perfectly seamless, but it works most of the time. In my area, AT&T, my former carrier, was absolutely horrid. By that, I mean... things like, my in-laws' house is about 3 blocks away from the AT&T tower, yet I get zero signal there. Not even kidding. While my N6 shows that my average "bars" aren't really that different than what AT&T showed, I've yet to have a dropped call, or any lack of service. The only hiccup I've ever had is the inability to answer a call from time to time, which is admittedly hella annoying, but it's been rare, and at least I can always call right back. Of course, the N6 isn't the most stable phone on the planet, so I can't conclusively point the finger at Fi for the few issues I've had. (By the way, at my in-laws' house, I have a perfect signal, via their wi-fi -- including cellular voice. Yea, Fi.)
Right now, Fi switches between T-Mo and Sprint, using come super-duper complicated algorithm... which seems to essentially be: If signal from one is lost, try the other. It's not yet very good at actually picking the strongest signal, or (as others have reported -- I haven't really seen it) even selecting a 4G signal over a 3G one. However, this is improving, and I've no doubt that it will continue to do so. Oh, and I should point out that in many places, such as several restaurants in my area, it doesn't matter, because it will happily use a strong open wi-fi signal instaead. When it does, you'll automatically get hooked up with a VPN tunnel for security, and any data usage won't count against your data pool. I've made and received calls over such connections with no issues, and excellent clarity.
My point with all of this is to tell you whether or not you'll like Fi... and my answer would be: Maybe. It has it's pros and cons, most of which are widely known. The rest are pretty much identical to any other carrier. Is it worth a try? Sure. Can it save you money? If you're a light data user, sure. If not, then probably not. I can only tell you that I'm still using Fi as my daily driver. My wife just got her invite, and will be using Fi as her daily driver when her Nexus 5X arrives. By January, we could both be very happy Fi customers, or we could both be somewhere else. The very best thing about Fi is: We are under no obligation to stay, and if it ever stops working for us, we can leave with no ETF.
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thanks for your awesome word yes if I don't like I can always go back. Will try next month hopefully
I'm gonna order it on project fi today. If project fi's signal selection is really bad I might switch to ting, but if you use more than 2 gb of data a month plus some calls and text fi is cheaper than ting. Neither are contract locked so I can switch at any time and go back and forth, but at the end of the day with ting I'll only have t-mobile towers (sprint sucks in my area) and it'll cost more, so if fi works I'll be sticking with it for a long time.
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I'm gonna order it on project fi today. If project fi's signal selection is really bad I might switch to ting, but if you use more than 2 gb of data a month plus some calls and text fi is cheaper than ting. Neither are contract locked so I can switch at any time and go back and forth, but at the end of the day with ting I'll only have t-mobile towers (sprint sucks in my area) and it'll cost more, so if fi works I'll be sticking with it for a long time.
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Using dialer codes, you can lock your Fi signal to a single carrier (Sprint or T-Mo), which is essentially the same as choosing GSM (T-Mo) or CDMA (Sprint) from Ting, plus you have the added benefit of Wi-Fi usage where available. So, you *can* avoid the carrier switching issues, while maintaining more flexibility than Ting offers. Thus, there's very little reason to choose Ting over Fi, once you have the Fi invite.
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Using dialer codes, you can lock your Fi signal to a single carrier (Sprint or T-Mo), which is essentially the same as choosing GSM (T-Mo) or CDMA (Sprint) from Ting, plus you have the added benefit of Wi-Fi usage where available. So, you *can* avoid the carrier switching issues, while maintaining more flexibility than Ting offers. Thus, there's very little reason to choose Ting over Fi, once you have the Fi invite.
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Actually ting supports wifi calling too (it's very poorly documented and advertised) but thanks for this! Makes me sure that fi is the right choice unless wifi at my school and home gets drastically better.
I've been using my N6 on Fi for over a month now and just ordered the N6P to replace it. I started with my N6 on Sprint who I have been with for over 10 years and I am glad I finally made a change. Granted I was even grandfathered into a Sero 500 plan and Fi is still better. I am on WiFi most of the time so out of the 3gb plan I chose I got paid back over 25 bucks and zero call or message issues like while on just Sprint.
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Red Wolf said:
Hey Guys/Gals
How many of are you thinking switch to Project Fi, once you have the Nexus 6p. For me I ordered nexus 6p from play store then order Fi from Fi lol but most likely they will come same time. I am on TMO unlimited, but most of the time I am on wifi so I will be saving good amount of money I guess. lets share your thoughts on Fi
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I thought about it, but not sure if it would be worth it at $10/gb. I'm currently paying just under $60 after taxes for unlimited (I have a $10/mo refer-a-friend discount and a 15% corporate discount). Maybe once my discounts expire, I might give it a try. Haven't seen Band 12 on my Note 4, so having access to Sprint's EVDO network and open WiFi networks when I'm inside buildings would be great. I typically get either no reception or Edge (which is virtually no reception) inside certain buildings or when I'm inside and I have my Note 4 in my pocket.
FYI, I requested an invite a couple of days ago and got an instant invite, so they might be giving those out now to expand their customer base a bit faster.
I'm waiting for my wife to get an invite and for a one dead weight family member to get the hell off my family plan before I make the move to FI.
I ordered Fi yesterday, and I'm switching from Sprint. I hope the SIM comes before the phone!
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I actually wasn't going to order a Nexus for a while (still have a few months on my Verizon contract), but decided to request an invite to Fi in the meantime. To my surprise, I got an instant invite, so I bought a Nexus. Worst case is if Fi doesn't work well for me, then I just throw the Verizon SIM in the Nexus. Best case is that my wife and I will be able to pay ~1/3 of what we are currently paying.
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Landed in San Juan and Fi connected to Sprint lte. Wife is on VZW with a weak 3g signal.
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Were you grandfathered into that price point? I don't know how you can leave that deal...
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Its a business plan I got more than 2 years ago i guess yeah its hard to leave it though but in the end of the day I don't use much data.
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I ordered Fi yesterday, and I'm switching from Sprint. I hope the SIM comes before the phone!
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Did you order the phone through Fi? If so the SIM will be in the phone already.

Current Activated Project FI Users (your experiences so far)

I've been reading through the forum and the Project Fi waiting room thread kind of touches on my subject but there is some digging that has to be done to find post about how their experience has been so far now that they are on the Fi Network...
I've been activated for about a week now. So far the service has been pretty good. I spend most of my days on WIFI so it's a good fit for me. I've only had a few issues so far.
1. My office is really big with many APs, when on a call and walking through the building it gets confused on what it should do. As my phone switches between APs it will move the call over to cell towers and then back to wifi and the end user says that I am cutting out really bad...
2. When I don't have WIFI available and connected to the sprint network I cannot use data and talk on the phone at the same time.. I guess this is what all sprint users currently deal with and is a limitation of technology but I've been with ATT for a long time and am not used to this. I don't believe its just because they are CDMA. Verizon has been doing this for a while now, correct?
3. If I'm connected to the sprint network and on a call then move to an area where tmobile has better service, when I get off of the call my service will go unavailable for multiple seconds while it disconnects and reconnects to the tmobile network.
4. Slowness to send and receive sms/mms to other carriers. This is not recreateable and is random.. Maybe 5% of the time.
5. Reduced daily battery life. Maybe 15%ish.. I think I was able to correct a lot of this by limiting background data.
I don't think this thread is duplicated but if it is point me to the correct location.
I've been activated since May 26. The only difference I notice between Fi and my previous carrier AT&T is the $50 I'm saving every month.
There were some minor hiccups at various points along the way. I had intermittent mobile data for about 48 hours and the first week for a couple days only Hangouts would ring, not the phone. Those problems are long gone now, though. As far as I'm concerned this is the best thing Google has done since Search.
Project Fi user (4 months)
Project Fi is something I wish everybody had a chance to experience. Honestly it is one of the best cell providers in the US. Customer service is amazing, the cell service is great, maybe a few things here and there, but an overall really good experience for this being a beta. Google is doing a really good job! Keep it up
Ive had Fi for 4 months, I live in a very rural part of Illinois. Service is great. I have a lot of 3g, but I am ok with that. I would never switch back to big red. Ive heard things about T-Mobile expanding more in my area so.. that would make my service even better..
I activated Fi in June and have had only minor issues related to network switching. They seem to have been resolved over time and I can't really see any difference in service than when I had TMO or VZW. I live in Orlando and don't travel extensively any more but coverage is more than adequate. And the savings are incredible.
I've had it for a couple months, and I'm satisfied with the service. I noticed my data drops out in certain areas when I'm driving, but it works fine at places I spend most of my time at.
My signal at home is only so-so, as far as internet goes, but that doesn't matter much, as I'm on wi-fi at home, anyway. One minor annoyance I've run into, however, is that occasionally my Fi signal seems to die completely for a brief period of time, and when it does, it crashes whatever app I'm in. It's often during a game (and with my luck, it's usually when I'm doing well...). But it's not a huge deal or anything.
I've been on Fi since early August. Came from Sprint "unlimited" plan, which was not doing me much good because I can't get decent Sprint data coverage at my workplace. And of course I use WiFi at home. So the addition of T-Mobile made a much better network for me. In fact, the switching algorithm keeps me on T-Mobile most of the time as I am out and about town.
Overall, I doubt that the sum of the Sprint and TMO network footprints match the coverage of Verizon. The question is: Is it good enough for you for the price? With one big caveat (see below), for me the answer is yes.
The switching is not perfect, especially on roadtrips. I believe there is a learning algorithm baked in, which includes localized geofencing. But while this improves things over time in routine places, I don't think it works so well the first time you go elsewhere. Gratefully, at least for now, there are leaked -- and not officially supported -- dialer codes to force switching between Sprint and TMO when you must.
Coming from unlimited makes for a paradigm shift because now I pay for cell network data by the megabyte. This is very cost-effective for someone who can stay on WiFi most of the time. I do, so my bills are very low. But if you cannot do that, and you are a heavy data user, this plan is not for you.
The big caveat for me right now is that Marshmallow reportedly breaks data service on TMO Band 12, which is what reaches into my office building with Lollipop 5.1.1. That is why I am in no hurry to upgrade to 6.0 unless and until this gets fixed. B12 coverage is increasingly a big deal for TMO's network footprint. So without it, much of the benefit of a dual network would go away.
I switched from t mobile unlimited. Whenever I'm on sprint on a call, data doesn't work so I manually force the phone to be on t mobile literally all the time which kind of defeats the purpose of having another network. I honestly don't think project fi is a significant improvement over just having t mobile. Adding sprint to fi is kind of like giving a crutch for a dwarf to a normal sized person. The reason I will stay on fi is because I don't believe Google well stop at t mobile and sprint only.
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Been on fi for a few months now and overall it's been great. My bill has been a couple of bucks less than my prepaid $30/mo tmobile plan. Even though sprint has fairly good coverage in my area, I mostly connect to tmobile networks.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be happy with just the sprint network. Even though sprint has about the same # of cell towers in my area, signal strength between sprint towers seems to drop off rapidly compared to tmobile's towers. To be competitive, sprint needs to have more than twice the cell tower density to compare to tmobile's coverage. But it's still good to know I have sprint as a backup.
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Project Fi is something I wish everybody had a chance to experience. Honestly it is one of the best cell providers in the US. Customer service is amazing, the cell service is great, maybe a few things here and there, but an overall really good experience for this being a beta. Google is doing a really good job! Keep it up
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I'd love to join Fi but t-mobile gave me such a good plan (grandfather discount). It will be a big lost if I leave.
I've been on Fi for about 5 months and have used it all over the US, South America, Europe and India. When roaming outside the US, it works exactly like the T-Mobile service it replaced. When I'm home and it runs on Sprint, it sucks. Phone doesn't ring and I miss texts. My service is actually better when I put the SIM card in a T-Mobile phone that can't switch to Sprint.
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i did sign up to fi, and got invited. and i did tell them j wanted to use fi. so they sent me a sim, and the "gifts". but i have no wifi at home, and i average about 25-40gb a month in data usage(tmobile, unlimited). i did the math in my head and it just didnt make any sense to me to switch. i definitely would, but the data costs are just to high. so i wrote them explaining about my data use, and they thanked me. and i havent been bugged by them in the last 2 months at all.
I'm on Verizon unlimited old plan and with great regret decided to try out Fi since they are increasing the price. I don't think anyone can match Verizon's network and I'm paying a reasonable $55 incl taxes. I wish I used more data, I hear people use 6-10GB on average on these unlimited plans, I guess I don't travel as much.
I am sort of afraid what Fi will mean since its after all a beta service. As an MVNO it is not price competitive, $10/GB is a lot for an MVNO to charge, Cricket is much better pricing, but I dont have their signal at home.
I'm glad to see the positive experiences with Fi. I ordered my Nexus 6 and Fi SIM card at lunch today and will activate Fi in a couple weeks once I get a credit back from T-mobile and can properly close my account with them. I'm looking forward to saving about $60 a month with Fi.
I've been activated since June. I came from T-mobile, so the change was all benefit for me in terms of coverage. I came from a Nexus 5 which doesn't have band 12 support. It was nice to be able to use T-Mobiles band 12 once I was on fi with the Nexus 6.
I rarely see sprint in my area, since T-Mobile is much better, but when I get out into the country, I have been connected to sprint where I used to have nothing at all. That's a plus. Also, sprint service allows roaming on Verizon 1x towers, and I have been connected to Verizon a few times.
I got a Fi invite instantly yesterday.
My N6 is stock unrooted Lollipop LMY48T, and uses my Verizon unlimited data SIM, my T-Mobile "WalmartPlan" $30 5gig SIM, or my cricket/aio prepaid SIM, depending.
I only use Google Voice through Hangouts for all my calls, so unlimited talk is not important to me.
If I order a Fi SIM, will I still be able to switch Sims freely or does the phone get locked to Fi only ?
I have heard some rumor that if I accept a Marshmallow OTA or sideload the M images, I will lose T-Mobile band12 LTE. Hope that is not true, since T-Mobile seems to be moving from band4 to band12 everywhere now.
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trent999 said:
I have heard some rumor that if I accept a Marshmallow OTA or sideload the M images, I will lose T-Mobile band LTE. Hope that is not true, since T-Mobile seems to be moving from band4 to band12 everywhere now.
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The loss of data on Band 12 has been reported by several users who flashed the Marshmallow build. Apparently the difference is in the radio module, because some of them have reported that Band 12 data service is restored by flashing back to one of the latest Lollipop radios on top of the new build.
We don't know if this is by design or a bug.
I have no personal experience myself because I remain on 5.1.1 build LYZ28M.
Seems like going to Marshmallow would be a huge problem for Fi users, then, unless Fi doesn't use band12 LTE?
For quite a while the Nexus6 was almost the only phone out that would support T-Mobile band12, except for a couple of Samsung's. Big part of why I bought mine.
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Seems like going to Marshmallow would be a huge problem for Fi users, then, unless Fi doesn't use band12 LTE?
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Yes, it is a big open question right now. Google and Fi management have been silent about it. The issue may or may not be related to Google's need to certify the new Nexus devices for use on the TMO network directly (using T-Mobile SIMs). We don't know how these requirements relate to the Fi-TMO MVNO agreement, if at all.
It may be that there is just a bug in the Marshmallow 6.0 radio.
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If I order a Fi SIM, will I still be able to switch Sims freely or does the phone get locked to Fi only ?
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Several Verizon users have reported (a thread in Q&A section) difficulty returning to VZW from Fi.

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Anyone using this on there 6p? I just ordered it , looks to good, the concept sounds awesome, but i dont see the carriers picking it up as they would lose money
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I'm in Canada so no Fi but since it uses the 5x and 6P I'd say yes..
I use FI and no issues. It's as it says: pay for what you use and get a credit for any unused. I don't know what you mean by carriers 'picking it up,' cause Google pays to let their service use another's signal. With 3 carrier supported service, coverage is great.
I'm currently using Fi in the US on my 6p, after switching from Verizon and AT&T. If you're able to sip data and don't mind watching your usage, it's actually great. I'm on WiFi 85% of the time, download music offline, and my phone bills have dropped by $80+ a month compared to what I paid for and what I actually use.
All in all, Fi can totally be worth it for you if you want it to. But coverage wise, I've never had a single issue.
I have been using Fi on my 6P for months and I love it. You get WIFI calling and native visual voicemail. Just like the previous post stated if you are mostly on WIFI and dont use a ton of data then Fi is the way to go with a Nexus device.
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Fi has been pretty good for me. I wouldn't go back to Verizon because I am saving so much money, but it's certainly not perfect. Namely switching between T-mobile and Sprint towers is not nearly as seamless as I had hoped. I agree with others, if you're on wifi a lot and don't use a lot of data, it's great!
I had Fi for three months but ended up switching back to T-Mobile for the following reasons:
-In my area, Tmobile coverage is so much better than Sprint coverage, yet, Fi always connected to Sprint towers even though the signal was weaker.
-No VoLTE on Fi.
-If you use more than 3 GB per month, Fi becomes less price competitive IMHO.
I have fi on my 6p and all in all I really like it. I can't say that the service is the best in the world especially for 2 carriers (there is no us cellular in my area so I only have 2) and I have wifi from my cable company and they have hotspots all over the place if it wasn't for that I would use a whole lot more data. I used to use metro and had unlimited data for $60 a month with Fi I got it down to about $40.
I look forward to trying it out, my comment about the carriers is this , i dont see any of the big guys like att saying " gee ya signed up for 4 gigs a month, ya only used 1 gig, guess we'll credit you the 3 gigs back in.coin" thats what im talking about
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Been using Fi on my 6P since it was released, love it. So much better price-wise than big red was/is. I'm rarely off WiFi, so having a lot or overcharged data just isn't worth it to me. Most months I use less than a dollars worth of data and Fi gives me that back towards my bill. Between Sprint and T-Mobile my coverage has been great, if I find I'm having data "issues" I just use the app Fi Switch to switch to the other carrier. Calls and text though I've never had an issue.
Project Fi works great for me in Louisiana. I pretty much always on WiFi so my bill every month is like 24 dollars.

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