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Z3+ in a local tech shop is actually cheaper than a Z3.
My main focus is camera, and I seen that Z3+ overheats just after few minutes of using the camera, which is just not acceptable. Is this true?
I would offer my sister (she will buy the phone) to buy LG G4, but she will not do it because she had terrible experience with her previous low end LG device..
Is the overheating really noticeable, not warm, but actually hot to the touch?
If she will not be able to use camera to take photos/videos of her child because of overheating problems/messages/phone being hot, then it's a no no.
Then it's gonna be normal Z3/compact or S5.
Artasdmc said:
Z3+ in a local tech shop is actually cheaper than a Z3.
My main focus is camera, and I seen that Z3+ overheats just after few minutes of using the camera, which is just not acceptable. Is this true?
I would offer my sister (she will buy the phone) to buy LG G4, but she will not do it because she had terrible experience with her previous low end LG device..
Is the overheating really noticeable, not warm, but actually hot to the touch?
If she will not be able to use camera to take photos/videos of her child because of overheating problems/messages/phone being hot, then it's a no no.
Then it's gonna be normal Z3/compact or S5.
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I've had the Z3+ a few months and I have not experienced any overheating problems.
But to be sure I just tried running the camera app now for 5 min and it's not even warm.
And Android 6 will be released soon (?) which should make the phone run even smoother.
(but if it were me I'd rather buy the Z5)
I would play it safe and avoid the Z3+. There are people that complain about the camera on the Z3+. When the Z3+ reaches a certain temperature in the camera app, it will notify you and close down. That could become an irritating problem if your sister is trying to capture a memorable moment only to have the Z3+ notify that it's running hot and closing the camera app
I personally own a Z3+ and I haven't run into that problem yet. That's also because I'm not trying to record long videos or take tons of pictures in a short period of time.
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I would play it safe and avoid the Z3+. There are people that complain about the camera on the Z3+. When the Z3+ reaches a certain temperature in the camera app, it will notify you and close down. That could become an irritating problem if your sister is trying to capture a memorable moment only to have the Z3+ notify that it's running hot and closing the camera app
I personally own a Z3+ and I haven't run into that problem yet. That's also because I'm not trying to record long videos or take tons of pictures in a short period of time.
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My z3+ gets hot sometimes. I did a 4k record test got past 15 mins and stopped it myself. However using armask shuts it down within a couple of minutes use. Overall I'm pleased
I've had my Z3+ for about a week. I've only gotten one notice from the system that it was overheating and that was from the Sony camera app. I was outdoors at the Zoo taking some pictures in about 80 degrees F and after about 10mins I got a message that said the temp was increasing and that if it increased higher, the camera app would close. It never did close but it got really warm. Didn't shoot any video, just pictures. Other than that, it functions flawlessly.
I'd recommend S5 over Z3+ only if you could save at least $200 (& don't mind the performance & camera downgrade). I have Z5, S6 (had S5) as well. Z3+ is the fastest one IMO. No lag, hiccup, frequent redraws - nothing. It does get warm at times with heavy usage, but I'd not call it 'too hot'. With a case on, I don't think the user will notice anything.
About the camera (stock app),
- Like someone already stated, AR stuff can close the app after couple minutes. That's way more than I'd ever need, but it may matter to you
- 4K recording: >10 min (indoor), > 7/8 minute (outdoor, YMMV based on env. temp)
- 1080p: I did 25 min (indoor) before I decided to stop. People over here did more than 50 minutes using google camera app
I don't think any other app can overheat the phone. Oh, the first fw was a mess, probably that's why it got some bad reviews. So update it right away if you end up getting one!
When I first rooted my Z3+ and tried different kernels with different tweaks the phone got so hot I thought it was going to melt. I went to everything as stock as possible using the "Custom US" ROM and everything has been pretty good. But recently I switched to the Global ROM and the battery has been better and the camera app lasts a lot longer. That being said I am sure people will see different results than I with their phones. The Z3+ is just disappointing that not enough developers are involved with it. Hopefully the Marshmallow release will change that.
It's a good phone ruined by poor cooling, games will routinely start to stutter and the screen will dim as soon as throttling is involved (which is basically any game that lasts longer than 2 mins.)
If you do decide on another phone, check to see which Snapdragon processor is in the phone too. The Snapdragon 810 is what's in the Z3+ and some other phones that have the 810 also experience overheating problems.
Overheating WAS problem in the beginning. I had One m9 and g flex2 and they too had overheating problems. But with updates the problem was solved for every device.
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When I first rooted my Z3+ and tried different kernels with different tweaks the phone got so hot I thought it was going to melt. I went to everything as stock as possible using the "Custom US" ROM and everything has been pretty good. But recently I switched to the Global ROM and the battery has been better and the camera app lasts a lot longer. That being said I am sure people will see different results than I with their phones. The Z3+ is just disappointing that not enough developers are involved with it. Hopefully the Marshmallow release will change that.
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Hello aragorn771!
How did you install a global Rom? I've been stuck since I rooted my phone Z3+Dual and installed a custom kernel to get root, I didn't try so much things like installing other Rom or flashing because I don't want to go on a bootloop.
Can you tell me what is way to go please?:fingers-crossed:
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Hello aragorn771!
How did you install a global Rom? I've been stuck since I rooted my phone Z3+Dual and installed a custom kernel to get root, I didn't try so much things like installing other Rom or flashing because I don't want to go on a bootloop.
Can you tell me what is way to go please?:fingers-crossed:
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I installed the ROM through Flashtool then re-rooted through Fastboot with the the recovery kernel. I tried a few ROMs through Xperifirm and settled at the global one.
I just arrived on Z3+. I had a problem with my Z3 and the warranty send me the Z3+. There's this problem of overheating. I didn't found this global rom on xperiafirm but there is a China's update. Someone knows if they correct this bug?
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I just arrived on Z3+. I had a problem with my Z3 and the warranty send me the Z3+. There's this problem of overheating. I didn't found this global rom on xperiafirm but there is a China's update. Someone knows if they correct this bug?
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I also had trouble also had problems with my Z3 and Sony sent me a Z3 +
Z3 + is horrible compared to Z3, it becomes too hot and shut the camera off after a few minutes, and also very lag!
.266 Update does not correct these problems and this FW does not have google apps.
I have already been in contact with Sony to send me another Z3 me or return the money because I was very disappointed with Z3 +!
I believe that with update 5.1.1 for Xperia Z3 + will greatly improve the overall stability of the device, as well as Z3 had a great improvement (Art / Zram)
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..I believe that with update 5.1.1 for Xperia Z3 + will greatly improve the overall stability of the device, as well as Z3 had a great improvement (Art / Zram)
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I'm under the impression they are going straight for 6.0. Just hope it's happening soon..
I have been using the Z3 + for a few months haven't had any insane heating issues. Watching youtube for hrs on end or taking pics or filming. If your filming 4k for extended periods I'm sure it will add some heat but otherwise it's been pretty sweet. Looking forward to seeing 6.0 update.
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I'm under the impression they are going straight for 6.0. Just hope it's happening soon..
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On Dual Sim model, not so soon like always...
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I have been using the Z3 + for a few months haven't had any insane heating issues. Watching youtube for hrs on end or taking pics or filming. If your filming 4k for extended periods I'm sure it will add some heat but otherwise it's been pretty sweet. Looking forward to seeing 6.0 update.
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Have you downloaded and installed the latest OS updates for your Z3+?
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Have you downloaded and installed the latest OS updates for your Z3+?
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Yes I have. I always keep things updated to the latest. Looking forward to seeing the 6.0 layout should help out on battery life. Haven't rooted this yet. Think a lot of the heating issues people have had in the past are from long periods of 4k filming and playing around for a long time with the AR Effect.
I've read a lot about this phone catching poo for snapdragon 810 and so on for heating issues which turned a lot of people away from it. The updates have smoothed it out a lot. I haven't had any issues or force closures. Tho I don't film 20 to 30 mins of 4k lol.
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Yes I have. I always keep things updated to the latest.Looking forward to seeing the 6.0 layout should help out on battery life. Haven't rooted this yet. Think a lot of the heating issues people have had in the past are from long periods of 4k filming and playing around for a long time with the AR Effect.
I've read a lot about this phone catching poo for snapdragon 810 and so on for heating issues which turned a lot of people away from it. The updates have smoothed it out a lot. I haven't had any issues or force closures. Tho I don't flim 20 to 30 mins of 4k lol.
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Oh ok, that's very good to read then, since I am considering this phone as a replacement for my broken LG G4 (which is going to be sent for warranty repairs, then sold once it comes back).
How about lag? I have read that it lags during everyday use...is it buttery-smooth when browsing the web, switching between apps, etc.?
I'm posting this as i think Sony doesn't know what they are doing anymore, they are not in control of their mobile dev department, its a real mess.
After years of experiencing android market, Sony reinventing the wheel every time they come up with something new, the latest example is the Z5 series
they released a device with half a day battery life under fair usage, they are marketing it as a 2 days battery ready
they forgot to add the correct drivers for the bluetooth and wifi, that's why the bower consumption is really high when both left on without connecting to BT headset or Wi-Fi
the camera is far from the expectations, lagy, hardly focus, image optimization is at the worst, extremely noisy, file size is at the highest, please do a fair comparison between this camera and any other mid-range device, even Huawei doing much better than Sony camera, the weird thing is they are selling their camera module to most of the high-end manufacturers, but others knows how to perfectly use this module.
even their own apps like "Smart Connect" it doesn't trigger the required action upon device pairing to a bluetooth for example
Stamina Clock disconnects the mobile data believe me it does
"Adaptive Brightness" is not correctly functioning, it extremely exposure the screen brightness for seconds before it detects the correct settings
sound drivers are sh*^%&t, stereo speakers are not well calibrated, and after every Facebook call or disconnecting noise cancelling headset, I have to readjust ringer and call volumes again
Sony fans stay away please, no need for (my device lasts for full 5 years with only 10% battery) as this is a lie, I factory rest and repaired my device 6 times with all possible settings before I post this, this post is not for you guys, I was a Sony fan, starting from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3, and finally this sh%^ty Z5P, and unfortunately am an advanced user and i know Sony mobiles behavior
Good luck everyone, stay away from Sony mobiles this year if you care about your money, you won't be satisfied unless you are a beginner, or you have the patience to wait for months for an update to fix a bug and bug another, till finally after ages they fix their firmware.
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hahah you sure bro ? you got all that problem in your phone ? is that even legit Sony product or maybe you buy the cloned one hahahha . I think the problem is you or let's say your phone only because every error that you mentioned is all just story .
1. My phone takes almost 2 day before it drain : game , facebook , music . Also i think you need to learn to read , Sony announced it 2days in Standby mode , really are you fan of Sony . Nice story .
2.Do you know the correct drivers your talking about ? My wifi is on always i dont get that problem.
3. LMAO the CAMERA this one , really ? Sony Camera is SUPERB ! Even my friends who used Samsung , Iphones they know Z5 Camera is better . This the best hahaha .
4.Smart Connect ? Even this one you got problem hahahahah !
5.I used Stamina Clock and I can still use mobile data with LTE .
6.The adaptive brightness is very good also . You know i dont know whats your problem retarded hahaha .
7.Lastly the Music , ow common . Sony's Stereo is great .
Dont listen to this guy claiming he is a Sony Fan hahahah . Its easy to say that your a Sony Fan . Actually your a great Story Teller on the other side . Laughing very hard to this post haha . Almost all the details in the phone you got the problem seriously ? Your too obvious . I pity you , all story that you mentioned i didnt even got one . I hope i have atleast one ! hahahah
True Sony Z5 Series Xperia User can tell it . I know others will get some problems just like all other phones but not all the problems that you mentioned . Cool Story Bro ! Cheers
Im very proud with this phone.
Z5 Premium Dual User
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
bahkata said:
You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
Which version of the premium do you have? Is it dual? Is it E6883? I wonder if bugs are only in certain versions of the phone. Especially the battery issue. I got the dual E6883 and I feel like the battery is not lasting how it should.
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it
gd luck
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Probably when the marshmallow update drops soon it will be alot better huh? Yeah the camera button would be nice !! i wanted a rear camera closest to a dslr so the z5p is probably that. I heard the z5p has a better stabilizer..Do you think a new model z5p will drop soon? i guess thats my main concern, i dont want the phone to depreciate after Christmas and i know iphones dont hardly do that haha. Hows your battery life ??
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bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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edit: Do they still have that black friday promo? lol and i should probably get a iphone 6s plus then since i can easily resell it for alot (seem to hold value). i found a 6s plus 128gb for $700 new
Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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2 days seems amazing, on my s6 edge plus i sold i got around 10hrs only with probably 2-3sot. Guess i gotta think this through lol... do you have any camera samples? or any samples on instagram or something ?
Thats quite disappointing. People here don't like it when they get "only" 4-5 hrs SOT on the Z5P
check here -> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-review-1344.php
loads of samples and a decent review
bahkata said:
You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Im originally from Bulgaria, mate. I don't have to imagine. But being from the third world you must also be aware that the lowest quality batches get send there and you need to be extra careful. As far as warranty goes, there is no such thing as "no warranty" with a big name brand. You can always send it to a Sony service center outside your country. You just have to communicate that through the correct channels. I managed to do it with a Nokia and a Samsung in my teens. You are a big boy, you'll figure it out
Now the disappointment part. It's not the feeling I am referring to. It's the process you are going through to handle it. This is a forum where people come together to be helpful/get help. Thanks to topics and posts like yours it is becoming a mundane and unhelpful place where people come to vent and whine without really seeking a solution, which makes it a less helpful place. Essentially you are making the world a ****tier place. By a very little amount of course, but it contributes
What was wrong with posting in the Q&A, troubleshooting section, explaining your problems and ask nicely if people have the same and what could be a solution?
Also don't be mad at Yolo. He has the right to be frustrated, just cannot express it very well.
I have the 6853 and honestly it works great... The camera is definitely better than the iPhone 6S+...my wife uses that and I took a ton of pictures using both...the Sony is considerably better...no phone is perfect but right now I don't think there's anything better than the Z5P...Android M will be out soon and it will only get better...the one thing that Sony is wrong on is Battery....as a heavy user, I get one full day usage, not 2...but its usually hovering around 15-20% when I finally put it back on the charger...another thing I noticed was that Sony's quick charger is slower than others...I have a $9 certified Qualcomm quick charger I got from Amazon that charges the phone from 2-3% to 100% in one hour...and I get it up to like 70% in 30-35 minutes.
Only battery drain a little bit too fast other then is perfect for me.
Before z5p I had use moto x prue ,nexus 6p, lumia 950xl but I feel z5p is better one
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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I am still using my Z1 and it has never had a single issue in over two years but I am contemplating getting the Z5 Premium in black.
How would you rate it next to the Z1, take into consideration that o have not used or owned any other Z series device.
Would it be a massive jump and difference in user experience, in a positive manner?
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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i ended up ordering a 6s+ on ebay haha thanks for replying back! I know exactly what you mean, they haven't optimized the camera yet for snapchat i had that happen with my old g4 ..only way to fix that is to use the 3rd party snapchat app called "casper" it allows you to use original camera app. idk what it is but iphones always tend to have the better front camera even with being a lower resolution. Main reason i did not get the z5p is because there is rumors with the z6 plus/ultra coming out soon so i would rather stick with something that wont depreciate yenno
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Just sharing my thoughts, keen on what others think about some of these points.
The bad
- Feels sluggish. I dont know why as I am very careful about what apps I install but it takes longer to go from selecting a contact to talking to that contact than it did on my LG G2.
- Camera too slow to load up.
- Battery average at best.
- Fingerprint Scanner is poor.
The good
- Camera once launched is very good.
- Screen is great.
- Thats it really.
6 / 10.
It wont go down as one of 'the greats' and I will probably swap it once the new generation of phones arrive.
JK
Thanks for the review but here is z5 forum not premium.
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That pretty much sums up what I've experienced too with my Z5 so far.
At first I was super happy: The phone is very well built and it feels very premium/solid when you hold it. I'm a fan of the Sony design and I think it's the best looking phone on the market right now (with the Moto X Pure). The Xperia UI doesn't look half-bad, it even looks better than the stock Android UI in my opinion. The camera snaps pretty solid pictures and the 1080p60 video mode is pure gold. The loudspeakers are impressive, the screen looks great and the IP67 rating is just awesome
But after a few weeks many issues and annoyances appeared and made me realize that the Z5 is far from being stellar or far from being a phone I would recommend...
The firmware in general feels very rough around the edges and unfinished once you start digging deeper and using more advanced functionalities/features:
-Wifi thetering has been broken since October for me, and it's annoying as hell because I used that feature a lot with my Surface Pro
-Bluetooth connectivity is very unstable and unreliable in my car. I can't blame my car, I've never had problems before with my OnePlus One and Note 3. Since I have the Z5, it disconnects a lot, sometimes refuse to connect and it requires a reboot, etc.
-Auto-brightness seems broken or works eratically.
-I notice UI lag here and there, and it shouldn't happen on a Snapdragon 810 device. My old OnePlus One (Snapdragon 801) felt snappier and CM12.1 was buttery smooth. I can't say the same about Sony's UI.
-Maybe once a a day, an app (always a different app) will freeze and require a Force Close. Once I force closed it, I won't be able to launch it again without rebooting the phone.
-When there's 7 or more notifications from the same app on the lock screen, instead of showing all the notifications when you expand, you will only see a "@" followed by a chain of character. That's a known bug that has been patched months ago on CyanogenMod, and it's always present on Sony's ROM after many updates. That's annoying, it feels "unfinished" and unrefined. It makes it feel like the Z5 is running a beta firmware. That left me a bad impression when I first saw that bug again, on the Z5... it has been patched for months on my OnePlus One.
-So far, battery life has been subpar and acceptable at best. I know about the Lollipop "mobile radio active" bug and all, but still... I expected a little bit more.
-Sometimes, for no apparent reason, the phone will become very sluggish, with many little "delays" here and there to execute some simple tasks (open an app, open the Notifications Center, etc.) That's something I've never experienced before with my older (and slower on paper) phones. I think the firmware is the culprit
That's what came to my mind, but there's more issues and inconsistencies.
You know, I've had a OnePlus One from day 1 (well almost) and I went through all the early firmware problems they had. I'm not the most exigent and demanding user, but I like to see some progress and bugfixes... I knew OnePlus was a new company and I knew the One were their first phone... with time, the ROM got better and better, and a year layer when I sold it, the One was a pretty solid and enjoyable device.
But the thing is... Sony isn't OnePlus... they've been selling phones for a while now and I expected a lot more. I didn't expect the impossible, but I think it was fair to expect a phone that wouldn't have bluetooth issues, auto-brightness that works, a lag free UI experience, etc.
Sadly, that's not what I got... The current Lollipop firmware feels very "beta-ish" to me... it feels like a firmware that would ship with a Chinese 150$ phone!
Now all I hope is that Marshmallow will be better. In the current state, and if these issues are still present in Marshmallow, I will get rid of that phone and get a Nexus.
As a matter of fact, I've been using my old Galaxy Note 3 + CM13 for the last 6 weeks now... It doesn't crash, bluetooth just works, I can go through the day easily on a single charge and, in general, I enjoy using it more than my Z5 despite the fact that it's an old phone by today's standards... I still prefer an older phone that just works, than a newer phone that has the issues I described earlier.
The Z5 is my first Sony phone and probably my last to be honest. They failed to leave me with a good impression... For those who use older models like the Z3 or Z3+: the Sony firmware was that buggy when you got your phone? Did it get better with time and updates?
Yes I have high hopes for Marshmallow - will be make or break for this device.
I never had any problems with my Z1 and when the Z5 was released I got one at launch and I have to this day not had any major or lesser problem with it.
The battery is great, the camera is just fantastic, the performance is just superb.
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jklondon said:
Yes I have high hopes for Marshmallow - will be make or break for this device.
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Hahaha, that's hilarious...
So what you're saying is that your phone is more or less completely unusable in it's current state?
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Snaqejack said:
I never had any problems with my Z1 and when the Z5 was released I got one at launch and I have to this day not had any major or lesser problem with it.
The battery is great, the camera is just fantastic, the performance is just superb.
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Hahaha, that's hilarious...
So what you're saying is that your phone is more or less completely unusable in it's current state?
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My 750$ Z5 have been gathering dust in the last 6 weeks on my bed table because it's unusable for me in its current state (go read my post). I'm using my old Note 3 at the moment because it's more reliable and it actually works. And yes, I'm waiting to see if Marshmallow will fix these issues to decide if I keep that Z5 or throw it on a brick wall out of frustration.
To be honest, I don't think it's hilarious my friend
Phazonclash said:
My 750$ Z5 have been gathering dust in the last 6 weeks on my bed table because it's unusable for me in its current state (go read my post). I'm using my old Note 3 at the moment because it's more reliable and it actually works. And yes, I'm waiting to see if Marshmallow will fix these issues to decide if I keep that Z5 or throw it on a brick wall out of frustration.
To be honest, I don't think it's hilarious my friend.
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Might aswell write it, you tried flashing the phone with different firmwares?
I mean like a UK one, a Generic one etc etc?
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Same here, it's so sluggish most of the time now that it's unusable.
Sluggish? Sure is it a Z5? Any issue here, it works wonderfull
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Doh. Apologies, Moderator pls move.
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If u open this thread in browser and you hit the "!" triangle right under your post u can report to a mod and request thread movement.
I could do that too for u but telling u now so u could do it yourself next time
dfavefenix said:
Sluggish? Sure is it a Z5? Any issue here, it works wonderfull
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Z5 Premium actually. And I'm not the only one, read the forums. Hopefully marshmellow will fix is.
it seems we bought a different phone! i actually have the plain Z5 dual, i use it as work/personal phone, doing hours of conference call, call merging, and all what i need for an efficient day at work is there, it is true that i do not play games, no facebook no frills, but multiple email accounts, twitter, linkedin telegram whatsapp are there and i would recommend this phone for its build quality, call quality and signal, battery life more than enough, clean UI, top spec camera and video, for sure mine is not slaggish at all.
I also use it primarily for work, but it doesn't help. Sill sluggish. Sometimes just opening the task switcher can take 6-8 seconds.
Snapdragon 810 was a really bad idea and I miss my Z3.
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I also use it primarily for work, but it doesn't help. Sill sluggish. Sometimes just opening the task switcher can take 6-8 seconds. .
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send it back to repair, definitely.
Add me to the list of slugishness. To me it feels like a memory leak bug or something like that because right after boot phone is fluid and fast, but as you start doing things apps, animations start becoming laggy. It's not super slow for me, just something you'd expect from a 2 year old Moto G and not a premium device like this. I'm pretty sure it can be fixed with software though.
It's just a tad sad that 5 months after release this device is not running smoothly on Lollipop with some updates. I'm not even asking for Marshmallow, just that this runs as fast as my Z3 did. Other observations:
Device gets hot. Not uncomfortable, but come on, my battery is being used to heat this thing up instead of doing productive things
Auto brightness is FU
Sluggishness gets resolved on boot
SOTs are subpar
Camera startup lags
fingerprint scanner is super tricky
Dual z5 which I have has annoying double confirmation bug when phone calling. Come on SONY, does anyone QA your FW?
Hopefully all of this will get resolved with updates. This is such a beautiful phone.
So,
My Z3 Compact died today.
And im looking to replace it.
I want a similar phone, but I'm not findng other with similiar specifications with a small screen (I want with Small screen).
So I was thinking to buy Z5 compact. Money isn't really the problem for me, but I want a small display yet powerful phone like Z3C.
Help me decide which to buy, and if you have an idea of another phone, share it.
Looking forward for your ideas.
A sad former Z3C owner
Z5c is very very valuable now bcoz the GPU is almost double faster than X Compact plus Z5c got water-proof at much cheaper price now. Developements on Z5c is little but finally we've got some on progress like we have TA backup, drm patch, 3rd kernel and custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Camera on Z5c been much improved with this very new cam mod just released but you'll need root. The image quality now on Z5c near XC.
The real problem on Z5c is heating(not to the level over heat but close to), you can solve it by applying a simple patch or SmartTempX but in both cases, you'll also need root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Simple patch. I'm using this one on XPower V3.0 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/mod-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
SmartempX should be even lower the temp down but may bring in some bugs like slow charging.
If you only run stock and don't want to root, I'll actually suggest you to get X Compact with less heating by default and a bit better camera(got extra IR sensor and laser focus) and also with 3GB ram. If you want water-proof only Z3c or Z5c but Z5c without root isn't that good to use in my opinions(mainly hot), with root it can be a phone much better than Z3c.
TheEndHK said:
Z5c is very very valuable now bcoz the GPU is almost double faster than X Compact plus Z5c got water-proof at much cheaper price now. Developements on Z5c is little but finally we've got some on progress like we have TA backup, drm patch, 3rd kernel and custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Camera on Z5c been much improved with this very new cam mod just released but you'll need root. The image quality now on Z5c near XC.
The real problem on Z5c is heating(not to the level over heat but close to), you can solve it by applying a simple patch or SmartTempX but in both cases, you'll also need root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Simple patch. I'm using this one on XPower V3.0 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/mod-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
SmartempX should be even lower the temp down but may bring in some bugs like slow charging.
If you only run stock and don't want to root, I'll actually suggest you to get X Compact with less heating by default and a bit better camera(got extra IR sensor and laser focus) and also with 3GB ram. If you want water-proof only Z3c or Z5c but Z5c without root isn't that good to use in my opinions(mainly hot), with root it can be a phone much better than Z3c.
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THanks for your feedback,
But the X Compact still didnt arrive in my country, and I'm looking for a immediate replacement, thats why its not an option for me.
And yes, I'm going to root the phone that I buy.
like TheEndHK said , X is the about the same GPU speed as Z3C, but !lower about 40-80% from Z5C, (the cpu speed is about the same until Z5c becoming hot!
so..
cons for Z5c heating fast and become slow and low multitasking (2GB RAM) only one big app can be opened
pros for Z5c is waterproof and 4K
cons for the XC is lower GPu no water resist
pros for the XC doesn't heat as much(at least not affect cpu speed) and 3GB Ram
long story short if want play high end games go for the Z5C.
if you want mostly basic uses (instagram, sms,Facebook,whatsapp, google map,) X Compat will be good enough
inexkecible said:
THanks for your feedback,
But the X Compact still didnt arrive in my country, and I'm looking for a immediate replacement, thats why its not an option for me.
And yes, I'm going to root the phone that I buy.
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If you're willing to root go for Z5c with thermal patch and new mod camera. Since we've got TA backup now, root will not avoid warranty. If no root just buy a second one Z3c.
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Superrman said:
like TheEndHK said , X is the about the same GPU speed as Z3C, but !lower about 40-80% from Z5C, (the cpu speed is about the same until Z5c becoming hot!
so..
cons for Z5c heating fast and become slow and low multitasking (2GB RAM) only one big app can be opened
pros for Z5c is waterproof and 4K
cons for the XC is lower GPu no water resist
pros for the XC doesn't heat as much(at least not affect cpu speed) and 3GB Ram
long story short if want play high end games go for the Z5C.
if you want mostly basic uses (instagram, sms,Facebook,whatsapp, google map,) X Compat will be good enough
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Heavily debloated the rom and using greenify donated with xposed together improved the memory management a bit though it won't be as nice as 3GB ram but in the acceptable range now for a 2GB ram device.
The main shortage to me Z5c camera not good to it's price and other competitors but now with the newly developed mod cam I think it's accepatble finally.
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If you're willing to root go for Z5c with thermal patch and new mod camera. Since we've got TA backup now, root will not avoid warranty. If no root just buy a second one Z3c.
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Thanks, I think im going to get the z5c, I don't play much, but I like a fast. The z3c was doing everything i needed, but when something stops working I normally look for a better one, since I saw many negative reviews of z5c of overheating it kind of scared me. And then I started thinking about getting another z3c
I'm still puzzled of what I'll do, but most likely will get a z5c, or anyone has another good substitute? Of another brand with similar specs and size
I really liked the Sony compact line tho.
About the warranty , in my country we don't have official Sony official store (not even official Samsung store), so we're kind of on our own.
inexkecible said:
Thanks, I think im going to get the z5c, I don't play much, but I like a fast. The z3c was doing everything i needed, but when something stops working I normally look for a better one, since I saw many negative reviews of z5c of overheating it kind of scared me. And then I started thinking about getting another z3c
I'm still puzzled of what I'll do, but most likely will get a z5c, or anyone has another good substitute? Of another brand with similar specs and size
I really liked the Sony compact line tho.
About the warranty , in my country we don't have official Sony official store (not even official Samsung store), so we're kind of on our own.
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These thermal patches will lower cpu clock according to temp and lower default cpu clock. The sd810 is over-powered on 720P and expected double speed gain over sd800/801, a lower clock still faster than my old Z1c without worry.
Any new cpu is hotter than the previous generation of sd800/801 nowadays, even with X Compact sd650 should be hotter. So with thermal patch I think it is accepatble. If you want super cool device then get back Z3c but Sony said no Andorid 7.0.
I like my z5c but I want to be at the bleeding edge of technology. This is why I'm considering the new 5.2" pixel phone.
TheEndHK said:
These thermal patches will lower cpu clock according to temp and lower default cpu clock. The sd810 is over-powered on 720P and expected double speed gain over sd800/801, a lower clock still faster than my old Z1c without worry.
Any new cpu is hotter than the previous generation of sd800/801 nowadays, even with X Compact sd650 should be hotter. So with thermal patch I think it is accepatble. If you want super cool device then get back Z3c but Sony said no Andorid 7.0.
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This is one of the things that i want , I'm like a tech geek and want the latest firmware and stuff. The only game i had was Pokemon Go on my Z3c, it was normally heating when i was playing, and it also heats when using the camera.
TheEndHK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Camera on Z5c been much improved with this very new cam mod just released but you'll need root. The image quality now on Z5c near XC.
The real problem on Z5c is heating(not to the level over heat but close to), you can solve it by applying a simple patch or SmartTempX but in both cases, you'll also need root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/mod-t3250283
Simple patch. I'm using this one on XPower V3.0 rom.
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The two links are to the same thread - what link should it be for the first one, about the camera?
I'd like the link to the camera thread, too. I had stumbled across it early last week, but I can't find it again.
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The two links are to the same thread - what link should it be for the first one, about the camera?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-cyberian-camera-t3267271/page181
This Cyberian mod cam should be based on X/XP cam apk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/sonyz5-family-unlocked-xz-xc-camera-t3463148
This is new one based on XC. However, not sure which is better I need more time to do testing. XC should be better in terms of detail very slightly but I feel that the Cyberian from XP/XP got more accurate AWB and AE, need time to run a full testing. ATM, I more recommended Cyberian.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/mod-project-xperivision-artemisia-ii-t3451137
third one is coming up to support z5c
I like z3c more because of Concept ROM, but it got old and the front and rear panel started to peel off and bought myself z5c as z3c wasnt available anymore
Personally I find Xperia Z5 Compact to be slow. I have Xpower 3.0 running with AndroPlus v36, yet it lags a ton more than the HTC One M8 did.
Planning to reinstall original firmware and root it without a custom rom. That seems to be the most stable option sadly. The thermal mod I use is called SmartTemperatureX and is working fairly good. Your phone will still overheat, but works a bit better with this mod. Overall I don't really like this phone that much, but it's not awful either. I don't really recommend it, if you can find any other phone you'd be happy with.
I'm pretty pleased with mine. I recently replaced a Z3 Compact with one, and it seems a fair amount smoother and faster, and the Ringke case I have is more comfortable to hold since it doesn't have all of the cutouts that the Z3 cases have to have. The only thing I don't like as much is that the front speakers don't seem quite as loud as the Z3's. With the X Compact's camera app installed, the camera is a lot faster than the Z3's too, which is nice since my wife likes me to take pictures of the kids, and they don't stand still for anything! I was also pleasantly surprised that the white Z5 Compact doesn't look nearly as cheap in person as pictures make it out to be. It has a nice pearl white paint job.
I bought the Z5c, but is there a way to lower the cpu temp without root? Because i wont have time to root these days...
It doesnt heat as much i thought, heats up a little bit more than z3c. but not THAT much. I ike the design and I'm loving the phone, fast, smooth,small, everything i want/need in a phone!
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Personally I find Xperia Z5 Compact to be slow. I have Xpower 3.0 running with AndroPlus v36, yet it lags a ton more than the HTC One M8 did.
Planning to reinstall original firmware and root it without a custom rom. That seems to be the most stable option sadly. The thermal mod I use is called SmartTemperatureX and is working fairly good. Your phone will still overheat, but works a bit better with this mod. Overall I don't really like this phone that much, but it's not awful either. I don't really recommend it, if you can find any other phone you'd be happy with.
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I think MM got little memory leaks after long or heavy use, I got some lags too on XPower V3 after intensive use, a reboot usually will fix but it will come again if you are power user.
You can downgrade to LP, when I was with .152/.200 stock LP, I remember I don't have any lag at all. But since XPower V3 fixed my battery drain/radio active bug and MM got a much better mod camera, I've no choice but to stick with it.
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I'm pretty pleased with mine. I recently replaced a Z3 Compact with one, and it seems a fair amount smoother and faster, and the Ringke case I have is more comfortable to hold since it doesn't have all of the cutouts that the Z3 cases have to have. The only thing I don't like as much is that the front speakers don't seem quite as loud as the Z3's. With the X Compact's camera app installed, the camera is a lot faster than the Z3's too, which is nice since my wife likes me to take pictures of the kids, and they don't stand still for anything! I was also pleasantly surprised that the white Z5 Compact doesn't look nearly as cheap in person as pictures make it out to be. It has a nice pearl white paint job.
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Good to hear. I think you can tweak the speakers volume with mods or modifiy it by yourself, the file should be Mixer_paths.xml
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inexkecible said:
I bought the Z5c, but is there a way to lower the cpu temp without root? Because i wont have time to root these days...
It doesnt heat as much i thought, heats up a little bit more than z3c. but not THAT much. I ike the design and I'm loving the phone, fast, smooth,small, everything i want/need in a phone!
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.224 should be cooler and .253 is hotter probably pushing cpu harder and faster. You can do water cooling on street or in toliet.
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Camera on Z5c been much improved with this very new cam mod just released but you'll need root. The image quality now on Z5c near XC.
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Hi man, what's the name of that cam mod you are talking about?
Okey, quick update. Reinstalled original newest firmware, rooted, installed Xposed, installed SmartTemperatureX and finally installed FauxSound and a FauxSound-compatible kernel (Zach's). This means I finally got smooth, stable performance, great audioquality (no white noise anymore, yey ) and enough customization . Batterylife is also good.
I can finally say I'm happy with my device again. If you know how to tweak your device, it can become pretty powerful, as long as you don't install a custom ROM (in my personal experience).
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.224 should be cooler and .253 is hotter probably pushing cpu harder and faster. You can do water cooling on street or in toliet.
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Hahaa, so I installed the .253 version, and i feel that its not heating as much as the .224. i'll write again after testing tomorrow or the day after.
And the .253 update remove the ability to change the keyboard height, now i cant make it smaller (the normal uses half the screen, thats a lot!) .
Add the OTG isnt working, tried everything. I've plugged my Sandisk OTG 64gb Thumb drive, and it didnt recongnize, when I clicked to detect usb device, same goes for my usb mouse(with OTG adapter).
I don't have the luxury to replace the phone with the seller or give to Sony to fix/replace
Can't change because it was the last one, and there's no such thing as an Official (any brand1) store in my city/country.
-Water cooling on a phone?
lol
edit: the keyboard thing its fixed , just needed to upgate the Keyboard app on playstore
Hello, friends.
I'm a user of a Z3C (had a Z1C before that). Now that Nougat isn't available anymore for our phone, I was wondering if I should buy a Z5C or a XC.
I'm not a stock user. I use a lot of mods and custom stuff on my phone. Stock isn't for me. I know that Z5C is more powerful and more affordable that a XC, but it only has one more year of support.
Would you recommend upgrading (at all)? And if yes, which of the models
I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus phone...but damn, that price! Also took into consideration a Nexus 5X or a Samsung S7...I don't want a big phone, nor to sell my kidneys for a phone.
Man I was in the same situation as you deciding between Z5c and Xc. I had a Nextbit Robin for around 3 months. Worse decision ever. Don't get me wrong the Robin is nice, looks great and high specs but the poorly optimised software from Nextbit is just awful. Huge problems with audio playback (3.5mm).
So I was looking for a new Android device. The two models that got my attention was Z5c and Xc. Having already used the Xc from family member I liked it. It did everything the Nextbit Robin did but BETTER! Audio playback is the biggest feature for me. Works perfectly. However I decided to go for the Xperia Z5 Compact due to being waterproof, better specs. Also something to note with Xc is that the back will get scratched easily due to the material finish which is cheap plastic and very glossy. No matter even if you are the most careful person looking after your gadgets.
Here in the UK I got ordered the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Yellow for £179. Black out of stock and the retailer don't stock White variant. So being a guy this will be my first yellow phone LOL. Hope women out in public see my new flashy phone and get attracted to me LOL but if gay men do then I need to run LOL
My Z5c arrives tomorrow (06/10/2016). I can post my feedback tomorrow if you want. Also I ain't fussed about updates eg Android N, L etc LOL. Within a year or so there probably be Z6c or something along the lines.
I'd appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
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I'd appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
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Any games you'd like me to try out?
Having just upgraded from my Z3 Compact to a Z5 Compact, I must say, you will not be disappointed! It is noticeably faster and battery life has been better even. I'm using XPower 4 as my ROM, rooted, bootloader unlocked, DRM-fixed, thermal-patched, xposed, amplify, greenify, etc. Basically the exact same setup I had under SliMM 3.x on my Z3 Compact, all backed up with Titanium Backup and restored onto my Z5 Compact. Every xposed module works exactly as before, and overall I was back up and running in no time. I feel that the X Compact is a slightly less high-end device compared to the Z5 Compact, it lacks waterproof rating, fingerprint sensor (as long as you import your Z5c), and the really cool looking speaker design.
MiracleMiah said:
Any games you'd like me to try out?
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I'm not much of a gamer. But I am a update freak
MiracleMiah said:
Here in the UK I got ordered the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Yellow for £179.
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Where did you get it for £179? Is this new or second hand?
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Where did you get it for £179? Is this new or second hand?
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I received mine today and it's looks new!
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/so...47868-_-blank-_-blank#contractType=paymonthly
So far it's showing out of stock now but keep any eye on stock level then click Pay & Go option on right side of the page.
MiracleMiah said:
I received mine today and it's looks new!
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/so...47868-_-blank-_-blank#contractType=paymonthly
So far it's showing out of stock now but keep any eye on stock level then click Pay & Go option on right side of the page.
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Well, I already bought one a couple of weeks ago, £289, from Giffgaff, in black, definitely brand new, but £179 (especially if it really is in new condition) is a bargain.
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Right I got the device today. So far so good. Everything setup and updated to the latest version. The phone is amazing. Fast and smooth using the OS. Love the build quality and the camera, I'm in love with that. Been taking some photos of family and I love the quality and the amount of manual tweaking you can do.
I have played some games such as Spider-Man, Asphalt etc on it and I noticed after like 15 minutes the back get's slightly hot but nothing too extreme.
However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Well, I already bought one a couple of weeks ago, £289, from Giffgaff, in black, definitely brand new, but £179 (especially if it really is in new condition) is a bargain.
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Yes indeed what a bargain! Did you notice the speaker volume output level was low on first day?
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Right I got the device today. So far so good. Everything setup and updated to the latest version. The phone is amazing. Fast and smooth using the OS. Love the build quality and the camera, I'm in love with that. Been taking some photos of family and I love the quality and the amount of manual tweaking you can do.
I have played some games such as Spider-Man, Asphalt etc on it and I noticed after like 15 minutes the back get's slightly hot but nothing too extreme.
However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Yes indeed what a bargain! Did you notice the speaker volume output level was low on first day?
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happen to me randomly sometime alot (usually when i play games top speakers become really quiet), i think its hardware bug. because i had it in all stock versions 5.1.1-6.0- 6.1
besides that and the heat and low RAM ( CSR 2 and Modern Combat 5: took all the 2GB RAM)phone has good battery great
GFX almost 200% faster, from XC
ATM, XC no backup TA so for any root user better to get Z5c plus it got waterproof. Z5c can be a very good phone but really need heavy modding and quite trouble, it's a phone that root is a must. Stock is completely useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/mod-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
Just make sure you guys flash the SmartTempX v1.61 thermal mod for gaming bcoz v1.7/1.8 got slow charge bug.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/rom-xpower-v1-0-aroma-debloat-custom-t3371100
Remember to install greenify to free up memory bcoz 2GB ram isn't enough for this device and debloat the rom by yourself. Suggested to flash XPower V3/V4 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/sonyz5-family-unlocked-xz-xc-camera-t3463148
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-cyberian-camera-t3267271/page203
Originally, I want to upgrade to XC for the camera since camera is the most important part to me. Stock Z5c cam is just way below my expectation but after used stock mod cam and photo quality been much improved, so the plan pushed back a bit now. Will stick with Z5c in this year, next year might get XC when price lower.
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However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Did the same thing to me on day one. Next day it was okay. That was 6 months ago and so far so good
I'm a Z5C owner thinking of buying XC. Because I'm sick and tired of this phone.
The one and only option for obtaining Z5C is buying it in a store with a moneyback policy. Most of the phones have overheating and battery drain problems. If you are lucky to get a phone without these issues then you get an awesome smartphone. And if you get the same as others... well, there's moneyback for you.
These issues can't be fixed with any software tweaks, the best way to improve the situation is flashing 5.1 which makes the phone heat much less and allows it to last a day of minor usage which is a great improvement over charging twice a day with Marshmallow. No hope for improvements in Nougat.
I hate Sony for making potentially awesome phones and not paying attention to quality. Z5C could be perfect.
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These issues can't be fixed with any software tweaks, the best way to improve the situation is flashing 5.1 which makes the phone heat much less and allows it to last a day of minor usage which is a great improvement over charging twice a day with Marshmallow.
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Totally disagreed. Do you real root and try? I've got nightmare battery drain at idle with 5.1.1 stock .152/.200 and battery problem completely fixed with XPower rom. I don't think 5.1.1 heat much less too.
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Totally disagreed. Do you real root and try? I've got nightmare battery drain at idle with 5.1.1 stock .152/.200 and battery problem completely fixed with XPower rom. I don't think 5.1.1 heat much less too.
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Of course I did. But all the tweaking just made it a little bit cooler, still as hot as my gf. Even after I severely limited the frequencies it became very slow but didn't stop overheating. 10-15 minutes in Chrome made it extremely hot and drained a few percent of battery charge.
After I downgraded it to 5.1.1 it doesn't even need tweaking anymore. Yes, the battery life still is mediocre at best, and it gets warm from usage, but it lasts twice longer and doesn't throttle down the CPU anymore.
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Of course I did. But all the tweaking just made it a little bit cooler, still as hot as my gf. Even after I severely limited the frequencies it became very slow but didn't stop overheating. 10-15 minutes in Chrome made it extremely hot and drained a few percent of battery charge.
After I downgraded it to 5.1.1 it doesn't even need tweaking anymore. Yes, the battery life still is mediocre at best, and it gets warm from usage, but it lasts twice longer and doesn't throttle down the CPU anymore.
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Do u try water cool your gf?
It's weird the heat appeared same to me in both 5.1.1 and 6.0.1(.253 is more hot than .224) but Sony MM I believe got some memory leaks so 5.1.1 is real faster during in my experiences(bluetooth and wifi is also faster and more stable). But I can't fix the radio active bug in .152/.200 and just keep draining battery, XPower V3/V4 real fixed that.
Plus camera is more important to me, both photo/video much better in MM with mod cam.
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Do u try water cool your gf?
It's weird the heat appeared same to me in both 5.1.1 and 6.0.1(.253 is more hot than .224) but Sony MM I believe got some memory leaks so 5.1.1 is real faster during in my experiences(bluetooth and wifi is also faster and more stable). But I can't fix the radio active bug in .152/.200 and just keep draining battery, XPower V3/V4 real fixed that.
Plus camera is more important to me, both photo/video much better in MM with mod cam.
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Of course I tried, didn't help, she's still hot. Will try again. And again.
I'm going to flash the latest MM firmware now and see if anything has changed. If it hasn't I'll flash LP back.
I have to reflash the phone anyway because I got into a bootloop on LP after a few days of using it.
Update;
Reporting back.. Totally love this phone. I'd say get this over the XC Compact. For me the Z5c better build quality and finish. It's been such a smooth experience. Making calls, texting, apps & games.
It put's shame on Nextbit Robin which I had (now sold).
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Update;
Reporting back.. Totally love this phone. I'd say get this over the XC Compact. For me the Z5c better build quality and finish. It's been such a smooth experience. Making calls, texting, apps & games.
It put's shame on Nextbit Robin which I had (now sold).
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What make you change your idea vote for Z5c now?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/21/htc-bolt-photo/
Keep an eye on new mid range of HTC Bolt. Some suggested a smaller size and cheaper ver of HTC10, not sure 4.7" or 5" at this time if 4.7" can be a good replacement of Z5c and XC.