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Rooted my Bravo today with SuperOneClick, worked like a charm, and appears to be permanent (after several reboots). This is my first smart phone, so it's all new to me, but so far, so good.
New to smartphones myself. I was heavy in motomodding years back but this is new game for me. I still have yet to find a good noob tutorial (step by step) for installing non-markets (in particular sirius-xm app). I have rooted with S1C, but now what? I know , that's what the search forum button is for. I've done that, but all I find are mid-level talk, and not idiot(me)speak. I'll keep watching for examples. Thanks.
Once I got the phone rooted, I was relying on the SideLoad Wonder Machine I found on another site (lets you install .apk files through a point-and-click interface), but it failed to install several apps. Then I found out how to do it using ADB from the command line and so far, everthing I've tried has installed with no problem. I'm only semi-geeky, and I can grok what I've had to thus far. I started out at the command line in DOS 3.3 back in 1988, so delving into this has not been too hard. Kinda fun, actually.
Tomorrow I'll post up step by step instructions on how I did it the noon way. You have to buy an app called Root Explorer that gives you access to write on system files
Thanks alot. I will say the SWM program has worked great so far for installing nonmarkets. Very easy to use. Now I just need to learn how to remove all the dead weight and I'll be happy. I will say that the Sirius-xm app is VERY CPU intensive, so multitasking is difficult. Hoping removing uneeded processes will relieve some of the strain.
I'd love to be able to get rid of some of the bloatware apps that came with this phone, if for no other reason than to make it more 'mine.' The stock browser, Latitude, Mobile Video, Media Share, Social Networking (ack!) all gotta go.
hi Scrondar, could you post some basic instructions and links to superoneclick? i just got a bravo and would like to root it.
I have rooted and enabled non market apps via super one click 1.5.5. To get rid of bloatware I downloaded bloat freezer from the market. It does not totally remove them from the phone but freezes them from running in the back ground or appearing in the app drawer. It's 1.99 in the market I had to email the dev because it forced closed when I opened it but he was awesome about getting me a working version. Worth every penny. I wanted to freeze it because it gives you the option to defrost if you want. I think I read somewhere if you delete the stock apps from the phone it keeps you from updating to 2.2 or any other version of android in the future (if one is ever released for this phone). Although I may be wrong about that.
Chagla- You can find the link to rooting instructions on this site, but in a nutshell, I downloaded and installed the Moto USB drivers on my Win7 64-bit desktop machine, enabled USB Debugging on the Bravo (Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging (checked), downloaded and ran One Click Root (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304), and that was it. Now, what I'd REALLY like to try is some custom ROMs on this phone, but as yet know of none that will safely work on it. Good luck!
why not z4root? did it not work?
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why not z4root? did it not work?
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Never got the chance to try it. By the time I was ready to try rooting, that app was no longer available on the Market, and then I found Super One-Click, which worked on my first attempt.
And every other step you need to transform and gain control of your stock ROM!
Given the fact that T-Mobile and Samsung have made it clear that the Galaxy S Vibrant will not receive Gingerbread, Honeycomb, ICS, or any other functionality update, I made the decision that it was finally time to root my beloved phone.
I didn't want to root for the purpose of trying a ROM for any of the above OS's. I merely figured that since there are not going to be any future updates to my phone, I'm basically on my own. And if I'm on my own then I can and should get rid of the TMo crap software that came pre-installed on my phone (and which can't be uninstalled by any normal means).
Hopefully this process might also help make my phone operate a little faster and cleaner. And in general, the rooting process would give me full control over my own phone. But if you have ever rooted a device the experience can sometimes be challenging, even for tech-savvy folks like me.
There are lots of sites for advice and how-to’s on rooting your Android device, but most of these sites run you through the process in a way that assumes all will work perfectly the first time. There aren't a lot that take you through the root process with at-hand solutions to many of the commonly reported errors.
I've just finished rooting my stock TMo Vibrant, fixing signature/Multi-CSC issues from the root process, installing and using Titanium Backup (TB) PRO to handle bloatware, and finally installing ROM Manager for the purpose of installing ClockworkMod Recovery (for creating and restoring backups of my current ROM). WHEW! And while it's all fresh in my mind, I'm writing it all down to share the process with you so that it's all in one convenient place.
Let’s Start With Rooting The Phone By Using Super Oneclick
After doing some reading in the XDA forums and a few other places, I wanted to try rooting with a one click option. There are many out there that are available for use. But the very first issue that plagued my rooting process was the incompatibility of many of these root installers with my home Win7 64bit pc.
I tried downloading and extracting various recommended solutions that use the "one click" functionality (Super Oneclick--various versions with and without drivers, Galaxy S One Click Root, and Vibrant One Click Root). I also downloaded and installed AIO Vibrant Toolbox, a program which also features a “one click” method for rooting a Vibrant once it has been installed on your pc.
What many posts on rooting never really mention with these methodologies is that you might have issues running the programs on a Win7 machine, which was my issue. Not all Win7 machines, but some. I downloaded the zip file for each with generally with no issue. * But once I tried to run the exe (best done via "Run As Administrator"), I got the following error message on virtually all of them:
"CLR Error: 80004005 The program will now terminate"
AIO Vibrant Toolbox wasn’t any better even though it was an installed program. It terminated as well.
(*NOTE: Anti-virus programs will mistake parts of the root zip files for Trojans, usually quarantining them after download. You are then left with the uncomfortable choice of turning off your anti-virus and taking that chance, or looking for another zip solution. I opted for the latter. Never take a chance with a Trojan!)
These errors messages did not show up on my work pc which is also Win7 64-bit. But that was no comfort as most of my root work was going to be done at home. After much searching on the internet, I read a random post that mentioned two helpful suggestions:
Use a rear or powered USB port, not a front port (because they often can’t power the root install sufficiently)
Use Super Oneclick v1.7 as opposed to any newer versions. The newer versions can cause problems with this particular Galaxy S root.
Two simple suggestions that made a world of difference! The root process worked smoothly afterward, and was finally a "success".
Reminder - Remember to put your phone into USB Debugging mode for the root process, and don’t mount the external SD card when attached.
Along the way to “rooting” you might be confronted with messages about your Samsung drivers for your phone. You may see messages like these:
Device drivers not found
Samsung android USB composite device failed
A quick search on these forums will yield updated drivers for your phone. The successful install of these drivers can also be a function of using the proper USB ports, as in the situation above. The installation of Samsung drivers failed on the front USB ports of my Dell. Success was again found using the rear ports. The main point here: use the rear ports (or powered USB ports) no matter how much of a pain it is maneuvering under your desk and behind your pc!
You’re Almost There…Kinda!
You can check to see if you are successfully rooted by checking to see if Superuser is installed in your apps. It was there… whew. The next step was to install Titanium Backup so that I could have root control over my apps, allowing me to delete bloatware that was slowing my phone. I downloaded TB from the Market, opened it, tried to give it Superuser permissions, and was notified with an error message that permissions were unsuccessful because the phone was not rooted. WHAT???
More online research revealed that I had achieved a “soft root”, whereby you have successfully rooted your phone but you don’t have all root permissions because the install wasn’t complete. The solution? Basically you just have to keep doing it more than once. All steps of this process seem like they will take the first time if you do what you are supposed to do. But more often than not, you have to repeat your steps over and over to make sure that it takes. After two more Super Oneclick rooting attempts, TB finally gave me the thumbs up for root.
Some may say it’s not necessary, but I upgraded to TB PRO. It allows for more options and better functionality with the apps and system data on the phone. And really, at about 6 dollars it is more than worth the price. Heck, two Starbucks lattes will run you more than 8 or 9 bucks. So if I can get piece of mind with respect to app management on my newly-rooted phone, 6 bucks is more than worth it.
I immediately wanted to learn how to remove bloatware -- and it’s amazingly difficult to find clear directions on doing so. After my backup of all apps and data, I went to the backup/restore tab and found the programs I wanted to get rid of. Many online users recommend “freezing” an app first to make sure that removing it won’t make your phone all wonky. So after “freezing” the offending apps (by pressing the menu button, selection batch, and then scrolling down to the appropriate section on freezing apps), I long-pressed the desired app and only saw one option for uninstalling via an exploit. I selected it and long story short, it failed. As the phone boots to stock recovery, this message popped up:
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Applying Multi-CSC Installing
Multi-CSC Installation Aborted
In simple terms, the rooting tool (Super Oneclick) doesn’t contain all of the necessary items for a complete root. A fix is needed for the invalid signature problem that will help you get to a full root state. Fortunately there are fixes out there you can find for this particular fix.
Here are some helpful links:
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s-a...iled-installation-aborted-one-click-root.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052991
Read the instructions for the fix on the first page, but get the correct file from the second page as the link for the fix from Dropbox is a little messed up in the first URL. The second URL has the correct link. Use the automatic method so that you don’t have to use the terminal emulator. If you are like me, this process has already given you more gray hairs than you would really like to admit. So take the easy route.
Run the install.bat file and you will be fine. When you reach stock recovery again remember to reinstall all packages. This will make sure that the fix is installed properly. I didn’t know that was needed and was wondering why the fix wasn’t taking initially. So I’m sharing this with you to head off your frustrations at the pass. ;-)
Getting Rid Of The Bloat
Check to make sure that you are fully rooted by opening TB. It will automatically take Superuser permissions from the first time you allowed it IF you are rooted. If not, it will tell you. And by now you should be rooted. Heading back to the bloatware, I was able to figure out that the “long press method” was not the correct one for uninstalling apps.
Once again, press the menu button (bottom left) and select batch. Scroll down and you will see a section for uninstalling apps. Select uninstall user and system apps, and make sure to DESELECT ALL before you do anything else. From there you can pick and choose the apps to uninstall, then “run the batch operation” to complete the task. Bye bye bloatware!
The last crucial step to complete now that your phone is rooted is to make sure that you have a backup of your current ROM and configuration. The backup you created using TB is only for apps and data. It is not a backup of your current stock ROM.
Nandroid backup works best for the purpose of backing up and restoring ROMs. And if you have done any previous rooting on an Android device, you will recognize that Nandroid is a function of ClockworkMod Recovery. Sigh. I know... frustration starts to set in as you realize that there is yet another necessary install needed for a totally successful root process ON TOP OF and AFTER everything else you have had to do. So what is the next step?
ROM Manager To The Rescue
Install the free ROM Manager from the Market and you will be good to go. This app allows you to flash CWM Recovery as well as mount various ROMs on your phone. After installing the app (and declining the various offers that pop up), press “Flash ClockworkMod Recovery” at the top of the menu. It will cause the phone to reboot. And CWM will be downloaded…but not installed. To install after reboot, open ROM Manager and now select Reboot into Recovery. It will challenge you with a question on whether you really want to do this or not. Say Yes.
Important: This is another one of those places where it’s not intuitively obvious what to do for CWM Recovery.
When I first rebooted into recovery I didn’t see any changes from my stock recovery menu…because there were none. What I needed to do (which I found in yet another forum posting) was again to select Reinstall all packages. CWM had been downloaded and was ready to install… this would do so.
Happily, the phone went into Clockwork recovery*immediately after "Reinstall all packages" . If it wasn't clear earlier, use the volume buttons toggle up (or down) to select backup/restore. *You can then implement your selection by pressing the power button on the right side of the phone. On the next screen select backup, and then let it do its’ thing. It may take a while to complete, but will be well worth the time and effort if you have any future problems.
The Entire Process Is Finally Complete
So there you have it. In a nutshell, here were my steps:
1. Samsung drivers
2. Super Oneclick v 1.7
3. E. Signature fix
4. Titanium Backup PRO
5. ROM Manager (free version)
Use the rear USB ports or powered USB ports for the phone connection. Phone should be in USB debugging mode, and external SD card should not be mounted. For each process, it may take up to 2 or 3 attempts for successful completion. So keep trying after the first FAIL message. When applicable, “Reinstall All Packages” to make sure that downloaded files are actually installed.
And lastly, if absolutely nothing works correctly for you, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use Google for help. Many others have successfully worked through all of the problems you might encounter that aren’t listed here. Actively use Google to help find solutions to any problems, using the exact error messages shown and adding in your phone type. You will be amazed by the depth of experience out there that can help you.
Above all else, keep up a good attitude. Rooting might be a pain in the ass while you are doing it, but it’s for a greater purpose. My four days of rooting have now given me a phone that is FREE from all the bloatware that bugged me for the past two years. And soon I’m sure I will experiment with a different ROM. But for now I’m just happy that I have my phone, my way. After all, if they (TMo and Samsung) aren’t going to make our phones better, we can do so for ourselves.
Good luck, and I hope this complete set of instructions from my own past 4 days of experience will help someone else!
A good read. A few things though with the Titanium part.
First I whole-heartedly agree to kick down the $ for the Pro. It really ups the functionality of the app and what all it can do.
The part about "freezing". This part is tricky b/c you need to make sure he apps that you are freezing are indeed bloat and not something that is needed for something else (i.e. did you know that GTalk directly effects the market on some ROMS). I don't use Gtalk but I still have it installed and frozen so I can defrost at will. This is the reason for Freeze. It lets you know of any adverse effects on your ROM, other apps,...then you have the option to defrost if need be. I also always avoid doing anything in "Batches" on TBPro, as it can sometimes be a little wonky, especially when restoring batches, causes reboot and freezes resulting in batterty pull.
I freeze for at least a week on new ROMs so that I get the full experience with daily life to make my determination on uninstall, defrost or wait longer.
Another way to do it is once you know the apps that are frozen do not effect any other parts of your ROM, you can back them up with TBpro for later use and uninstall or you can do it this way. Since you have root, go into /system/app or and pull the APK out and put it in a folder or something like that on your SD card. You would do this to some of the /system apps that TB shows as only haveing a checkmark next to and not the yellow/orange circle with the M in it. If you uninstall these with the checkmark you will not be able to restore them b/c part of the executable portion of the APK is not able to be backed up. This is the reason to pull the app out of /system/app and put it on your SD card. Hit menu, more, Clean up Dalvik cache and viola!! you have some free space on /system and the offending APK's dex will be deleted too.
Sidenote: I have never been able to get SuperOneClick to work on any phone I have ever tried. Maybe I'll unroot and try again but the SU exploit is a flashable zip located here. Option A. Put it on your SD card, boot into recovery and Bam!!! you are rooted
Nice work though.
Where can we still get Super Oneclick v 1.7?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300 make sure you have ADB turned on and use the USB ports from the back not front
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I have a Samsung Y S5360 (which I like a lot) and Wechat was insisting too much on updating to its latest version, for which I had to upgrade to a newest ROM, so I got Lollipop (just that was a log process for me, as I'm not an expert, but I'm learning a lot the last days). Anyway, so I am installing apps now and I have some issues that's not making it so easy.
1. I'm in China so I have no access to Play Google. Also installing downloaded apps from the SD card has only worked until now for Link2SD and Superuser, all other apps I tried to install that way get parsing error.
So, I'm getting apps from Baidu and Chinese apps provider. My Chinese reading is less than okay, so I kind of follow by instinct, which is possible, that way I've installed already Pleco, and another couple of apps successfully. Except for Airdroid, and Wechat.
2. The problem with Airdroid is that I could get a 2.something version but not the latest 3.something, and as I tried to get it, even from Airdroid web, it's not working.
3. The problem with wechat, which is way more important to me than Airdroid, is that I get to install an old version, but still newer than the one I used to have when I was on Gingerbread. One strange thing that happened is that the look of it though wasn't the same as the new style of wechat but as the Wechat of a year or so ago. Strange. ... Besides that, then the most relevant issue is that once installed the old version I get the message to update it, once the update is downloaded and installed, I opened it and I only get to see the opening image (the earth and the guy) and that's it, it stops.
I tried installing the latest version from some of the Chinese providers of apps, but it happens the same. It's installed, and it's opening, I see the earth and the guy, and then off to the screen of icons in android.
I've tried to uninstall and install, wiping cache in between. Didn't worked. I tried redoing the process of installing the ROM all over again. Didn't work. I tried to leave Wechat in the phone, and not move it to the SD Card. Didn't work. I tried kissing the phone, and chanting some Hawaiian healing songs. Didn't work.
Here I am, at the end of the day, trying another way, I kind of believe the force is with XDA devs
[New Release] Le 1s EUI 5.9-28S stable version update 2017-12-20
Info https://bbs.le.com/thread-2465889-1.html
Download link http://g3.letv.cn/261/9/97/scloud-ota/0/upload/tmp/1512962732_FULL_X500_X500-CN-OP-DBXCNOP5902812084S-5.9.0.zip?b=123456&platid=5&splatid=500 Thanks to wnl2527s
From where did u get this Le 1s EUI 5.9-28S update ???
And from where did u downloaded this update
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[New Release] Le 1s EUI 5.9-28S stable version update 2017-12-20
Info https://bbs.le.com/thread-2465889-1.html
Download link http://g3.letv.cn/261/9/97/scloud-o...2084S-5.9.0.zip?b=123456&platid=5&splatid=500 Thanks to wnl2527s
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Chinese or english ?
Chinese ROM with English option. I received it via OTA 28th of December. I f*king hated it, and reverted back to 26s (previously I had 20s and it was a fine ROM).
My description of it is pasted below from another topic, but bottom line, it has a crappy folder interface, no entering/exiting animations, it's harder to return back from a folder, and it will screw google services.
If you go to the original topic and scroll down a little you'll see some screenshots I posted.
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Ok, my phone just updated by OTA yesterday from 20S to 28S (yeah, it jumped 7 updates, I know).
Well, the new update is a pile of crap:
1- After the 1,2GB update the playstore became corrupted. I tried to clean cache and data of Google services and playstore as I saw in a video, it didn't work. Then I uninstalled those 2 and google framework, and tried to install them with Google Installer (that app that installs the Playstore in chinese phones that don't have gapps). It installed them but it didn't work. I downloaded the most recent Google Installer apk and repeated the process, again it didn't work. F*cking seriously??
2- Some system apps now have splash screen ads which make you wait. Very professional, LeEco
3- The smooth zoom in / zoom out animations every time we entered/exited a folder are gone, now you enter one and can scroll sideways to get to another folder while their titles are in the top sliding horizontally, metro style. Worst even it's harder to exit the folder: before this update we clicked a free spot and it exited it, but now we have to tap a free spot in the right side to the "+" sign, or it won't exit, I have to put my finger all the way down to tap the back button.
And the turd in the top of the cake, when a folder is entered, the OS displays f*cking ads!! chinese ads, in my folders! Thankfully this can be disabled, but what the hell, Leeco?
4- The Phone Manager app is much more intrusive always complaining about cleaning, data plans and telling me to "accelerate apps"
5- A butload of more chinese apps installed
6- In the browser (that also has a splash screen), if I choose "other countries" as a location I loose the Bing and google options as search engines with only the chinese search engines available, so I have to set my location as USA (I'm in europe). If I wanted only chinese search engines I would have choose as my location, oh I don't know... China, maybe? What stupidity is this?
7- The folder icon now only shows 4 apps maximum, before it supported 9, which was much more useful
So, anyone else with these kind of problems, was your playstore app ruined too?
I'm planning to downgrade to a version without this stupid folder navigation system, and of course with a funcioning playstore. Which version is that? 26S? 27S?
I like the previous version and don't want to install "pure android" or buggy cooked roms.
I hope anyone can answer my questions, thank you and sorry for the rant
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5.9.28S is cr*p...
My daughter received the 5.9.28S update for her X500 little over a week ago, i got it 2 days ago on my X620....
IMHO do NOT upgrade to that version because for the last few days i've been trying to get GApps to work on the
X500 and X620 (both unrooted) but Google Play Services will NOT work on 5.9.28S. My daughter is the
most unhappy girl in the world at the moment because every friggin app that needs Google Play Services doesn't work...
I've tried everything i could think of and i've tried a lot of solutions from the most well known places for these kinda
problems on the interwebs. Not ONE solution worked, both the X500 and X620 have been factory reset several times
and its the same story "Google Play Services stopped working" over and over and over again... Worst update EVER!
It's driving me NUTS!!! I need to revert both phones back to 5.9.23S or 5.9.26S.
@pipoawas
You can turn of the ads... Long press free spot on screen, go to "Desktop settings" and disable "Media recommend".
But i think you found that out already
*Edit:
Tried to revert to 5.9.23S on my wiped X620 with the file from LeTV.... It FAILS to install during recovery. What the ... I give up....
@Excorio
Yes, I know about disabling the ads, but we're still stuck with the splash screens and the hedious launcher: when exiting a folder, if the '+' sign is at the right with no space left at it's right side, you can't exit that folder without going down to the back button.
I discovered for myself how to make google services to work, and it wasn't from any solution on the web. Here, it's the 1st post. You will also have to do another extra step to synchronize your google contacts with the phone contacts (aka, getting your phone contacts populated with your google contacts, e.g. gmail contacts), if that's your case, or else the phone contacts will be empty. To find it just scrool a little down from that 1st post (it's the big "EDIT" in red).
Yes you can export the contacts manually in a csv file from google contacts to the phone contacts, but they will never sync: any change you do to one won't update in the other
One thing that's pissing me off is that I'm having trouble with the 26S:
In the google keyboard (gboard), even though I added my home language, it underlines in red any word from my language; even stranger, despite underlining them, it keeps suggesting them (so it knows them after all). Even worse every time I tap on a word the drop down menu pops up suggesting english words, despite the fact that I have set the keyboard to write in my language.
That and any keyboard I try (4 of them) completly freeze every time I try to update a comment in facebook. *Any keyboard*
So I tried to revert to 23S like you, and like you, it gives me an error. I tried 20S, another error (it's meant to be flashed in twrp only or something, I thought). Then I went to their official rom site (https://bbs.le.com/zt/eui/le_1s.html), with the kind of official roms that work with the original recovery (that I have), I downloaded the 13S, renamed to 'update.zip', tried to downgrade to it, and guess what, another error! With an official rom, with original recovery, in a phone that was never rooted!
F*CK YOU, Leeco!
EDIT: I just found out why 23s, 20s and 13s seem to be off limits, it's not that they're meant to be flashed with twrp, it's because of this (translated from chinese):
After the Android 5.0 (EUI and EUI versions under 13s and 13s) is upgraded to Android 6.0 (15s and above) , the underlying code logic of the system changes. It is not supported to roll back from Android 6.0 to the previous Android 5.0 version .
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The 3 roms I mentioned before are Android 5.0. I guess the update to 6.0 (26s, 28s) changed something in the phone, I'm guessing it's the recovery, that now rejects roms from Android 5
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To be honest, if i could get Google services running on 5.9.028S_12161 (Stable release) on my X620 i wouldn't mind the so called "improvements" of that update....
I have read your post about how you got it working... It was one of the first i read while searching on XDA I actually used the same installation package you mention in your post, that apk also gave me the same "corrupt apk error". I did what you did and still it wouldn't work on 5.9.028S, i read the post several times (lol) and tried to get it working serveral times but it failed. I then searched for another installer (more recent one called "Google Installer v2 for Xiaomi / MIUI Devices") and tried that one on 5.9.028S but that one also didnt work. After that i lost my patience, cuz i was trying for a couple of days already, and i went on the forum again to write the rant on this page https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...om-rom-to-official-stock-rom-5-t3725302/page3
While i was writing that post i was downloading 5.9.026S_06141 (Stable release) from this forum page https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-2/development/mtk-chipset-custom-rom-to-official-t3715691 I had NO hopes for it to work because of all the previous FAILS (grrrrrrr....) but i could try anyway right. So after downloading i copied it to my phone's root storage and renamed it to update.zip and started the update from withing the file manager AND i crossed my fingers also
OMG it worked! I now have 5.9.026S on my phone again. Then i used that same "Google Installer v2 for Xiaomi / MIUI Devices". It installed all needed apps to get stuff working. So after some installations and a reboot the Google Play Services was working again, no errors. I was able to access the Play Store and every other Google app EXCEPT for Gmail. I couldnt get Gmail running cuz Gmail popped an error saying gmail has a problem with google play services. So just to be sure i checked the Play Services version and it was 438 but i need 440 for my X620. So i updated Play Services to 11.9.51 (440-177350961) and i was able to get into Gmail again without any error. It was just a wrong Services version. Pfff....
Now my X620 is purring like a kitten on 26S again like before. The ONLY thing that's p*ssing me off is that i get a notification from an app thats installed on the phone called "Performance Monitor". If i run the Play Store for example the notification says "Google Play Store skip 48 frames!" (see image below). I have never EVER seen that before. This goes for any app im starting up or have running. The notification pops up now and again telling me some app "skipped xx frames."
What the heck is that thing and why is this happening? More importantly how do i make it go away?
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Good to know you got it working, I guess my solution worked only for me (that, and your phone is X620 while mine is the X500)
To my surprise 23S seems to be Android 6.0, according to the "about phone". Then why the hell did it refuse to install??
Bear in mind that I'm almost certain that my "contact Sync solution" seems to be the culprit for my issue of only one language being recognized by the google keyboard; that or is an incompatibility with Android 6 and that particular Google Sync apk, because later I tried 13S rom, then Google Installer 1.3 which installed all the necessary apks with no errors (aka, no need to install a external apk for Google Sync), and the Gboard recognizes both languages.
You really like the "upgrades" of 28S? yacchh The default browser takes some 5 seconds before it even opens a website, because of 1, sometimes 2 (!) splashscreens. And really, what new upgrades does 28S has? being Marshmellow? big deal, I don't notice it in my daily life, so a previous version is fine by me.
About the "Performance Monitor", there's got to be a way to disable some notifications in the app, otherwise I recommend you disable all of the Performance Monitor notifications in the settings->notifications->permissions
That 48 frames thingy is new to me... are you sure you didn't activate something about performance either in the "Performance Monitor" or in the developer options?
Anyway, that's a chinese app, I suggest you disable their notifications like I described above with the "Performance Monitor", or even disable some of those apps altoghether (you can't do that with *every* chinese app though)
By the way, how did you update the Play Services to 11.9.51? you hunted for the apk online, or is there another method that I'm not aware about?
I don't like the "improvements" they made in the new version but it's not that i run into stuff i need to change. Also i use Chrome for browsing. The default browser is not that good imho and i have been using Swiftkey as a keyboard for ages and works great for me...
I can not set permissions for the "Performance Monitor". This app was already on the phone after i installed 26S so it must come with 26S? I also did not enable anything to make it come up with those messages. I'm also not able to set permissions for that app or disable notifications, the most ANNOYING thing about that notification is that the phone vibrates with it also... (See image below) and i can not uninstall it. If anyone has an answer to this Performance Monitior thing plz do tell cuz i cant find anything about it.
I did indeed hunt for the Google Installer online. Here's the page i got it from: http://www.teamandroid.com/2017/06/21/download-google-installer-v2/. The only problem with this one was that it installed 438 and not 440. I was not able to upgrade to 440 manually or thru the Play Store (I cant find it in my Play Store, dunno why) so i installed an app called "Play Services Info" from the Play Store. I've used that one before and always worked for me. The app shows what version you have installed and you can also upgrade from the current version to the latest version by tapping "PLAY STORE". (See image below). It then opens a Play Store page where you can download/install the latest version, you also have the option to download it from APK Mirror.
Another fun fact about the System Update app in 26S is that even if you disable Auto-update in Settings it will STILL download 5.9.028S and it WILL try to get the new version installed. I noticed this morning that it had downloaded it and it wanted me to update to 28S! No way thats gonna happen lol. Crappy thing about that update message is on the screen that you cant get it to close by using the back button for example.
So i just shut down my phone by holding the power button, i then connected the phone to my PC and powered the phone up. On my PC i went into the file system of the phone, deleted the update zip file from data\com.letv.android.ota. I went into settings and denied the storage permission for the updater app. Just to be sure i rebooted the phone and there's no more message about the update. I then opened the updater app and it said i had the latest version lol... It now thinks 26S is the latest version even if you tap the update button. It still recognizes 26S as the latest version so im confident 28S will never come by again in the updater...
gboard has a better prediction in my opinion, and that facebook issue also happens with swiftkey.
chrome is bloated and google is the new Big Brother now. I would recommend opera or vivaldi.
For the Performance Monitor notifications go to settings, notification management, see if you can find "Performance Monitor" and choose it. Also the Phone Manager app (the icon is a tuxedo ) has some permission settings that might be useful, including the disabling of apps.
If that doesn't work, then your options are either rooting your phone so you have permission to mess with that app at will, or get another ROM (26S, 23S)
You can also see the google play services version number in app management/google play services.
To delete new updates from the update app you just have to go to app management, choose 'system update' and wipe it's data (or cache); you will see that one of them has some ~1.3 GB of data.
I'm afraid the system update notification may appear again, I too denied storage and notification permissions, and that damn thing appeared to me again later. No promises , but try to wipe the data and cache from that app and never run it again, so it doesnt have any permissions (you still havent agreeded with its licence, you know, that popup "do you give this app permission to access blablabla")
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Chinese ROM with English option. I received it via OTA 28th of December. I f*king hated it, and reverted back to 26s (previously I had 20s and it was a fine ROM).
My description of it is pasted below from another topic, but bottom line, it has a crappy folder interface, no entering/exiting animations, it's harder to return back from a folder, and it will screw google services.
If you go to the original topic and scroll down a little you'll see some screenshots I posted.
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Ok, my phone just updated by OTA yesterday from 20S to 28S (yeah, it jumped 7 updates, I know).
Well, the new update is a pile of crap:
1- After the 1,2GB update the playstore became corrupted. I tried to clean cache and data of Google services and playstore as I saw in a video, it didn't work. Then I uninstalled those 2 and google framework, and tried to install them with Google Installer (that app that installs the Playstore in chinese phones that don't have gapps). It installed them but it didn't work. I downloaded the most recent Google Installer apk and repeated the process, again it didn't work. F*cking seriously??
2- Some system apps now have splash screen ads which make you wait. Very professional, LeEco
3- The smooth zoom in / zoom out animations every time we entered/exited a folder are gone, now you enter one and can scroll sideways to get to another folder while their titles are in the top sliding horizontally, metro style. Worst even it's harder to exit the folder: before this update we clicked a free spot and it exited it, but now we have to tap a free spot in the right side to the "+" sign, or it won't exit, I have to put my finger all the way down to tap the back button.
And the turd in the top of the cake, when a folder is entered, the OS displays f*cking ads!! chinese ads, in my folders! Thankfully this can be disabled, but what the hell, Leeco?
4- The Phone Manager app is much more intrusive always complaining about cleaning, data plans and telling me to "accelerate apps"
5- A butload of more chinese apps installed
6- In the browser (that also has a splash screen), if I choose "other countries" as a location I loose the Bing and google options as search engines with only the chinese search engines available, so I have to set my location as USA (I'm in europe). If I wanted only chinese search engines I would have choose as my location, oh I don't know... China, maybe? What stupidity is this?
7- The folder icon now only shows 4 apps maximum, before it supported 9, which was much more useful
So, anyone else with these kind of problems, was your playstore app ruined too?
I'm planning to downgrade to a version without this stupid folder navigation system, and of course with a funcioning playstore. Which version is that? 26S? 27S?
I like the previous version and don't want to install "pure android" or buggy cooked roms.
I hope anyone can answer my questions, thank you and sorry for the rant
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So I upgraded to 26s, and I hated so I tried downgrading using flashing but for some reason my bootloader won't unlock so I upgraded to 28s. It's better than the 26s in my opinion, less bloatware than the 26s, new awesome camera, app drawer, improved battery life. My Gapps are working successfully, I downloaded them from here https://youtu.be/8VU270w99bA there are links in the description so no need to wait for it like he does. My calendar keeps crashing tho, and the splash screens are hideous, but I don't have a problem with folders because I was used to the app drawer before this, and now I have it again I don't use folder on the main screen anymore. Chinese ads are disabled (but seriously though what the freak??) And I think it's functional enough, at least until I figure out how to downgrade to my stock rom lol
Why did you hate 26S? is basically the same as 20S, but it lets you update the gallery, calendar and browser to the new 28S versions (it asks you for each app, sooner or later).
But I didn't update these apps since I like the old gallery with it's recycle bin, and the 26S browser already supports more than 16 tabs and doesn't freak out with the search engines and location
You prefer the app drawer? To each it's own I guess But it's hard to find the app you want in the middle of so many apps including system apps. Folders are a must, they're organized according to *your* tastes and your software designations.
The new camera still doesn't seem as good as the google's Open Camera app. At least it doesn't made that loud sound when taking a picture and it's faster than open camera specially in burst mode.
As for the locked bootloader, have you tried fastboot oem unlock in fastboot? From there you just have to copy the stock rom as update.zip (no caps lock) in the root of the virtual sd card, flash the original letv recovery, reboot, and the phone will flash the original stock ROM. Maybe you can do this through TWRP too, but I'm not sure.
For some reason I can't update to the 28S OTA (I have 20S), when updating it says "failed to update! Cause: corrupted"
I have the original recovery, the phone is unrooted (it was rooted before but I erased the system folder)
Why is this happening??
Also FYI, I want to update to this rom which I don't like, because my phone is having strange behaviours even after wipes and flashing the original roms:
Whatsapp and now Telegram often don't deliver the messages when the phone is idle (I have to constantly open the apps to see if there are new messages), and now another issue, those blue filter apps like twilight suddenly stop working and close (no banner in status bar, no "badge" icon, nothing"). I had this app working for a full year before, and now this happens, WTF?? the same happens wit hanother similar filter app.
It's like messaging and these filter apps get kicked from memory, (though still being shown in multitasking screen)
I have gave all permissions to all of them and configured them to autostart after boot
It's like something is roten inside the phone, and decaying further.... no amount of wipes and fresh installed roms will correct this. How in the hell is this possible?
Best ROM Currently (11/2018)
Look at the date above. This is for current, relevant info. I'm looking for people's opinions on the best ROMs right now. Things to consider: speed & functionality, & whatever else you think is important. There aren't many options at all these days.
Please chime in & let's get this debate going!
I'll go first. I plan on updating this post as I try more. BTW the big reason I created this thread is to save people time. I spent at least a week now trying to get a functional & fast (or at least usable) ROM. ICS, which is the last ver of Android the manufacturer supports, is just too old to consider an option, in my opinion. So I tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/eee-pad-transformer/development/rom-t3318496 last & it's just way too slow for me. I did the bigwheelie partition increase, but honestly I don't think that's necessary for most of us (& it took me a long time!). & It takes forever to read each thread & hundreds of posts inside them to get up to date regarding these ROMs...just to find out something doesn't work. People often aren't nice about repeat questions & expect you to read through hundreds of pages...Im the opposite! I want to save you time & give you an up to date summary of ROM options & what to expect. I also found out the hard way that Google Play doesn't work on tduros Marshmallow ROM. Not his fault, darn Google. BUT there's MicroG as an alternative.
So there you have my first review:
KatKiss KatchMellow is waaaay to slow for me. Gapps doesn't work (tablet will keep restarting), but MicroG is a Google Play alternative.
I'll try out older ROMs next to see if speed gets any better & report back...
UPDATE:
I exhaustively tried getting microg to work on both KatKiss KatchMellow & Lollipop, but finally gave up. I'm sure its possible, but I ran out of time & patience.
I did however end up with a pretty fast solution: KatKiss Lollipop with Fdroid for my app store, and via that I installed DavCal (to tie into my Google Calendars) & Simple Calendar that displayed this. Many apps I wanted worked. Some not but I found an alternative. MX player plays videos fine & theres a million audio apps. Id recommend this.
Thank you for this. I also came here to find the best and fastest ROM but was overwhelmed by the number of comments to sift through. I have KatKiss 6.0.1 with playstore but no other Google apps. It's a bit slow. I'm gonna try KatKiss Lollipop with FDroid.
If anybody finds a solution to have google play store and no constant bootloping.... I've tried Katkiss 6.01, 5 and now went down to Omnirom kitkat 4.4 they all reboot constantly with google play store
I'm using Tims katsmallow. Gapps is an absolute no-go. I tried microg and ended up with the same bootloop/reboot after installing YouTube. I'm currently using no gapps and f-droid. It works fine, and functional. I want to use the chromecast, and that's not functional. I have seen some reference to CM or even lineage existing for the 101. I can't track it down though. I'm going to dig into that next, maybe even compile a build of lineage if it ever existed.
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I'm using Tims katsmallow. Gapps is an absolute no-go. I tried microg and ended up with the same bootloop/reboot after installing YouTube. I'm currently using no gapps and f-droid. It works fine, and functional. I want to use the chromecast, and that's not functional. I have seen some reference to CM or even lineage existing for the 101. I can't track it down though. I'm going to dig into that next, maybe even compile a build of lineage if it ever existed.
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We never had lineage. I think the newest CM was all the way back to 10.3. Our TWRP is now very outdated and that may cause problems flashing any newer ROMs
Yeah, I find references to lineage, but it appears that it never was built. I found CM 10.2, and am considering flashing it...but I'm fairly sure it won't be any better than Tims latest build. It would be nice if we could convince him to do one last build for us, but it seems fairly clear that he is done.
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If anybody finds a solution to have google play store and no constant bootloping.... I've tried Katkiss 6.01, 5 and now went down to Omnirom kitkat 4.4 they all reboot constantly with google play store
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I'm using Tims katsmallow. Gapps is an absolute no-go. I tried microg and ended up with the same bootloop/reboot after installing YouTube. I'm currently using no gapps and f-droid. It works fine, and functional...
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Hi, inspired by your comments I undusted my old TF101 and brought it back to life.
Objective: To have a working tablet for my children to play.
Restrictions: Tablet must be responsive and easy to use. Ads should be eradicated or reduced to a minimum. Tablet must not auto-reboot nor crash.
Initial state: Rooted tablet with TWRP recovery and Timduru's Marsmallow (random reboot problem) ROM installed. Linux computer with adb tools installed. A microSD (FAT32) holding every zip file I needed to flash.
Procedure:
Step 1. I've wiped everything (system, dalvik, cachè), all, using TWRP.
Step 2. Kind of followed Jan's guide at KCORE.ORG. (Read it here).
------ I did install Timduru's last Android 6 (a.k.a. Marshamallow) ROM (v34 from 2017). (Available here).
------ I skipped Super SU 2.52 from Timduru's (not sure whether it was a good idea or not).
------ I did not install any gapps.
------ Flashed F-droid (NanoDroid-fdorid and NanoDroid-patcher zips. I used the latest I found, 20.3.2018208). It was actually Nanolx's NanoDroid (Available here). It might be important to mention that when I selected Timduru's ROM to be flashed using TWRP, it asked me whether I wanted to add more zips to the flashing process; so I added both NanoDroid files to the queue (but skipped Super Su because I didn't want it to be flashed).
It took some time to finish the flashing process. Once it did I wiped dalvik and cachè, and rebooted.
----- Tablet booted just fine. When it finished I immediately rebooted to recovery (TWRP).
----- Then I flashed the last Super Su version I could find (v2.82-201705271822). The official site didn't provide a valid download so I used google to find an alternate source for it. (Remember to checksum everything before installing to avoid errors or malware -Trojans, virus, etc.-)
----- Once Super Su was flashed I rebooted (didn't wipe anything this time). It rebooted a couple of times until it was idle. I then ran Super Su app to check if it was Ok. It was. Then fixed some settings like language (Spanish, in my case), time zone (Mexico City) and location (changed to 'high accuracy' from 'device only'). And then connected to the Internet.
----- I ran F-droid and disabled all repositories but microG. Forced repositories update and installed microG Services Core and microG Service Framework Proxy.
---- Then I re-enabled the F-droid repository, forced it to update and upgraded microG (for me it was available).
---- Installed the recomended backends:
---- ++ UnifiedNlp (no GAPPS).
---- ++ MozillaNlpBackend (I didn't want the one from Apple as Jan did).
---- ++ NominatimNlpBackend
---- ++ WiFi Location Service (I don't know if this was necessary but I installed it anyway).
---- ++ Local GSM Location (I think this wasn't necessary because the tablet doesn't have GSM nor any other cellular SIM, but I installed it anyway to cover all my bases).
---- Patched the ROM to allow signature spoofing. (Check Jan's article about this). The second and third patch weren't applied because the files were already patched but I followed every step there to the end.
---- Followed Jan's article at sections "Configuring microG Services" and "Reinstall Google Play Store"
Step 3. I took the opportunity to install and run the AdBlocker script from this thread. In my case there was no pdf but the script file. I downloaded the raw text file and created a file named adblocker. Used the adb shell to ran it. I needed to remount the system partition in order to move the script to /system/bin. (A google search can help here if you don't know how to do it). Short version: it installed and ran Ok.
Step 4. On my first attempt (second, third, and maybe fourth actually), I installed apps from the Google Store. Eventually I ended with the reboot loop again. So in the end I opted for downloading the apk files of the apps I wanted to install (from apkpure.com) and did it manually (actually I used a for loop and adb in bash, but it counts as manually).
Step 5. That was it. Tested some apps and gave the tablet to my little monsters for further testing. The kids have been very happy playing around with the old tablet.
Additional considerations:
1. In my case I installed an app blocker so the children won't mess with anything important, microG settings and F-droid included.
2. I didn't install Google Play Games nor any games that depended on it. So the idea of me using the tablet to play was abandoned.
3. There are some apps that the old TF101's hardware cannot handle, so I uninstalled them as they crashed at start up.
Conclusion: TF101 is old but with this workaround it might live to fight more battles. Kids apps are simple, but they run (some Ok, some a bit slow). My kids learn and have fun with the old tablet, so mission accomplished!
Further considerations and remarks:
1. Updating apps is not a concern for me unless they stop running. If they run they do stay, otherwise I will check them manually and then decide.
2. No Google account was registered in the tablet. Store is there, but it is not used.
3. I installed some other apps aside from the children's ones, like the app locker, a file manager and things alike.
Good luck.
EDIT: Updated to Super Su SR5 (highly recommended) and added suhide-lite.
EDIT: Reboots restarted eventually. The solution was not installing microG nor Google apps, and therefore no store at all. I installed my kids' apps manually using adb. I also omitted Youtube kids. Tablet has been working fine for almost a week now.
Katkiss Kitkat with no gapps. Smooth like butter.
Workaround is to first flash with gapps, reboot and go through first time setup (skip wifi), then reboot into twrp, wipe system and flash without gapps, then reboot.
Reason is first time setup wont work without gapps for kk.
My detailed instructions in the timduru mm thread (kk was closed)
Yes. I can confirm (after multiple back and forth flashing) that Katkiss works perfectly w/o gapps.
Now w/o gapps how does one get the apps to install?
Edit : Looks like yalp store is the answer
aaranddeeman said:
Yes. I can confirm (after multiple back and forth flashing) that Katkiss works perfectly w/o gapps.
Now w/o gapps how does one get the apps to install?
Edit : Looks like yalp store is the answer
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You can look for your app's .apk file (e.g., apkpure.com), download it and use adb to install it.
I'm using katschmallow, no gapps. It has been very stable for a couple of months. I have microg installed, and a lot of apps from yalp are working OK. YouTube seems to be the culprit in making it bootloop. I've been using newpipe instead.
Works without gaps
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I'm using katschmallow, no gapps. It has been very stable for a couple of months. I have microg installed, and a lot of apps from yalp are working OK. YouTube seems to be the culprit in making it bootloop. I've been using newpipe instead.
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I tried it as well and works well. I installed rom with the latest gapps (Jan 19th) and it has nice feature that you can disable "autoupdate apps" from upper right corner "three dots". Actually it was quite stable even with the gapps as long as you don't allow autoupdates.
Of course those apps, which are requiring Google play support won't work (mainly google made).
But many apps don't work with TF101 if you load the latest version so I found older versions from uptodown.com site as well other sites have old versions if you just search those.
Here are some apps and working versions. (some never might work as well but I did not have time to try furher)
Dropbox 18.2.2
Firefox 51.0.3
Uptodown 3.18
Chrome 49.0.2 (you need this if you want use your google account)
Mega 3.2.6.2.6
Spotify 8.4.0.534
OneDrive 4.12
Surprise was that the latest version of MS Outlook mail/calendar works
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I tried it as well and works well. I installed rom with the latest gapps (Jan 19th) and it has nice feature that you can disable "autoupdate apps" from upper right corner "three dots". Actually it was quite stable even with the gapps as long as you don't allow autoupdates.
Of course those apps, which are requiring Google play support won't work (mainly google made).
But many apps don't work with TF101 if you load the latest version so I found older versions from uptodown.com site as well other sites have old versions if you just search those.
Here are some apps and working versions. (some never might work as well but I did not have time to try furher)
Dropbox 18.2.2
Firefox 51.0.3
Uptodown 3.18
Chrome 49.0.2 (you need this if you want use your google account)
Mega 3.2.6.2.6
Spotify 8.4.0.534
OneDrive 4.12
Surprise was that the latest version of MS Outlook mail/calendar works
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Do you guys happen to know how I can root my TF101? I have two and I want to see what my best options are to get this thing to work with youtube. Please let me know if these two tablets are still worth the trouble.
I have spent countless hours chasing my tail as ASUS SYNC isn't even online anymore and all the exe files aren't made for windows 10. I have two, I am a college student and I would like a tablet to play Youtube when I am eating, as I don't have a tv in the dinning room/table.
Thanks in advance.
I have not been able to get YouTube working on mine. I have katschmallow without gapps, and use newpipe for YouTube. Anything Google service related seems to boot loop the tablet.
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I have not been able to get YouTube working on mine. I have katschmallow without gapps, and use newpipe for YouTube. Anything Google service related seems to boot loop the tablet.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll use it as a paper weight. On the plus side, I use my TF101s as a camera for the apt when I leave for school breaks, via Alfred. The video quality sucks, but at least it still has a little functionality.
It's not quite paperweight territory, but without support from Timduru it's becoming more and more crippled. I'm thankful for all of the years of service it has given.
baylin said:
Do you guys happen to know how I can root my TF101? I have two and I want to see what my best options are to get this thing to work with youtube. Please let me know if these two tablets are still worth the trouble.
I have spent countless hours chasing my tail as ASUS SYNC isn't even online anymore and all the exe files aren't made for windows 10. I have two, I am a college student and I would like a tablet to play Youtube when I am eating, as I don't have a tv in the dinning room/table.
Thanks in advance.
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This link goes to a thread with a linux and windows method that could work for you.
Best of lucks
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Reverse-anastomosis said:
I have not been able to get YouTube working on mine. I have katschmallow without gapps, and use newpipe for YouTube. Anything Google service related seems to boot loop the tablet.
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You should try OGYoutube instead, it depends on microG. You can use your google account and you will also get rid of the ads.
Look for the apks at apkmirror (ogyoutube and microG for OGYT)
Update for anyone still using this device. I discovered that . apk files can be installed from the terminal emulator. I was using katschmallow without gapps but kept getting random reboots. I went back to KK, and it is blazing fast. No reboots so far. Anyway, when you flash KK without gapps, there is no good way to install apps. I placed the apps that I wanted to install on the external SD, and installed in terminal as follows.
su
cd extSdCard
ls
pm install packagename.apk
Edit:Firefox 51.0 still works on this device on KK and is the minimum version for adbock plus.
Hello sirs
from your post I assume that best ROM il KAT KISS MM without Google Gapps.
I already have this configuration, but too many apks ( I use APTOIDE like market) do not works.
I would like to try a ROM based on original Firmware ( ANDROID REVOLUTION HD 3.6) . do you know if Google works with original FW ?
thanks