I have to add that I just came from motorolas version of a nexus being the Moto x pure and I immediately had way more interest when i got my hands on the N5x.
Regardless of the Moto x specs 21mp cam and ram .... I get better pic quality by far even with only a 12.2 mp camera better keyboard response better feel with screen size more unique development and mods available and easier root etc...
Anyone agree coming from a Moto x ?
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I fully agree!
I was switching the devices too and I'm far more "impressed" by the N5x, than I was when I unboxed my Moto X Style/Pure. Impressive Cam, very light, perfect size (at least for me), the battery stats (getting up to 6 SoT with Custom Kernel and deactivated encryption). I'm pretty happy with the switch and I'm not regretting it one bit.
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I have to add that I just came from motorolas version of a nexus being the Moto x pure and I immediately had way more interest when i got my hands on the N5x.
Regardless of the Moto x specs 21mp cam and ram .... I get better pic quality by far even with only a 12.2 mp camera better keyboard response better feel with screen size more unique development and mods available and easier root etc...
Anyone agree coming from a Moto x ?
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Moto Display is much better than ambient display. It's one killer feature for Moto.
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Moto Display is much better than ambient display. It's one killer feature for Moto.
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True.
Switched from moto x pure to N5X 3 week's ago. Was a bit hesitant because of the smaller battery and the 2gb ram on it. Somehow everything on the N5X feels right... The camera, the fingerprint sensor, the size and weight. I bought the moto x thinking I was done with rooting and modding my phone's but I was wrong. I enjoy playing with it too much and the dev support on the moto was just not strong enough for me. Indeed moto display does work better but then again...the N5X does have a LED on it. Getting 4 to 5hrs SOT on both phones and no lag so far....I'm really happy I made the switch!
Nexus 5X V Moto X Pure
I was considering between the two and decided to go with the 5X mainly because of the screen size and Nexus branding. Although, I was really on the fence about it because of the Moto X's superior memory (3GB vs 2GB) and video stabilization. In the end I am glad to hear the opinion of someone who has had experience with both #TeamNexus
I also sold my 2015 Moto X Pure Edition for the Nexus 5X. I would have probably kept it if it weren't for the size. Moto Display is better than Ambient Display, but they both suck on LCD screens. All of the Moto features were quite nice and added more value to the phone than most ROM features (IMO). It was near prefect but was too big and heavy for me. I probably wont ever own another "Moto" phone now that Motorola is now dead.
FWIW, before I got my smart watch I enjoyed a feature on Light Manager that would wake the screen up whenever I got a notification.
I've gone back an forth between both devices a few times and here are my thoughts. Battery life on the moto X is better. The Moto does not have input lag, where it can make the 5x at times very frustrating to use. You can certainly feel the difference that extra gig of ram makes. The nexus has the far superior camera and usability from a size stand point. I love the size and weight of the 5x. For me, in the end it was the moto x. I like the expandable memory and smooth operation of the device. The moto features are also a huge plus for me as I drive a lot in my job. Hope this helps.
Iphone 6S Plus
Bad points
no removable battery
no SD Card slot
no true NFC
no real multitasking (Multi Window)
NO wireless charging
NO fast charging
NO wide selfi front camera
No back button
can't Customize
big bezels
No motions, no fitness, no double tab etc.
no dual speaker
can't close all apps at the same time
no widgets (real widgets)
not waterproof
no 2K screen,
lowest storage is still 16Gb
Good points
Excellent Build Quality
Look and feel in the hand
beautiful display
Fast updates for all
excellent battery and also in standby mood
Works Great with All devices like MAC and Ipad
excellent Keyboard, easy to use
3D Touch
best finger print Scanner (Super fast)
super fast CPU and GPU. excellent RAM management
iphone 6S Win's all android phones in speed test.
spotlight search
best voice assistant Siri
loving the Camera
excellent front camera flash
panorama shot
LIVE photos (its fun)
like the speaker (nice and loud)
worth more when re-selling
Apple pay is HOT
No lag (or very minimum lag)
what do you think about Iphone 7 will it be better then galaxy S6 Edge Plus?
This is like comparing a brick to a finely made plate.
Makes no sense
the reason is i don't want to keep getting a new phone every 2 years for updates, and updates are slow on android. but with iphone you get 5 years of update and updates are fast for all devices and you get more internal storage so i can install more games that are 2GB or 3GB in size. iphone you get 256GB internal storage.
Personal choise. Both device are exellent, my choice is android only and g928 for now. Best device to this moment, 7-8 hours sot, 10/10 standby time.
Hi. I'm on the hunt for my a new phone to replace my ageing Galaxy S5 Neo. I chose these two phones as they are within my budget and on the same price range.
Am i correct in saying the Helio P20 is better than the Snapdragon 625 in terms of battery life and a more "balanced" performance?
Does the speakers on the XA1 be sufficient enough on a London bus or a partly crowded high street?
Is it true the XA1's camera came from or derived from the older Z5 but with slightly better optics & optimization?
And would you guys (still) think Sony is better in terms of pushing updates especially monthly security updates, bug fixes, etc.?
Would love to hear your thoughts & advice please.
For screen and battery g5+. Camera overall and build sony.. i personally like the g5+, + it has a fp scanner and fhd screen and it shows the difference but processing whise Sony's p20 is better.. games are better on g5 bcz of the adreno. And the g5 supports 5ghz wifi but he sony has the better build.. i'm in the same dilemma and i think I'll opt for the g5 (non+) bcz of fp scanner and fhd . Daily use is the same in terms of processing and the camera well.. i can do with 13. And the 12 on the 5+is on par with sony. Updates are better on moto and more often and sooner. Speakers ar low on both but still enough. Hope it helps.
Are you certain Moto has faster updates? Ever since Lenovo took over the updates have become very slow & scarce. And that's the truth. Ask anyone and they will tell you.
I'm also concerned with the G5 Plus not having USB Type-C, No waterproofing, No any form of image stabilisation on camera and no Cat-6 4G LTE speeds. Obviously the first three maybe because of money-saving exercise or perhaps backward thinking as well?
Hi. I'm on the hunt for my a new phone to replace my ageing Galaxy S5 Neo. I chose these two phones as they are within my budget and on the same price range.
Read that the Snapdragon 625 is slightly worse than the Helio P20 in terms of battery life and performance?
The speakers on the G5 Plus seem large but is sufficient enough on a London bus or a partly crowded high street than the XA1?
Is it true the G5 Plus' camera is similar to that of the Galaxy S7? Photo sample I have seen so far suggest a bland/low contrasty photo (Auto mode) and no video stabilisation?
And would you guys (still) think Sony is better in terms of pushing updates especially monthly security updates, bug fixes, etc.? Lenovo has been remise and negligent in updating the Moto lineup since acquisition. True?
Would the G5 Plus struggle with location apps such as Google Maps or City Mapper coz it has no compass or magnetometer?
"Splash resistant" body meaning is the phone safe when exposed to light rain or a drop of a glass of water?
Would love to hear your thoughts & advice please.
Short answer: I'd ask you to go with the Moto G5+ instead of the XA1.
Elaborate answer based on your queries:
1. SD 625 is the best processor currently available in the market with an excellent balance between battery and performance. I'm a daily user of G5+, i use it for Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat, Music, Gaming daily and not one day has passed when i had to charge it twice. Average SOT ranges between 6 and 7 hours, never below it. No stutters in day to day tasks, heats up only while charging, coming from SD801, this is a very surprising SoC, it performs as well in gaming, better in heat management and battery, and as good in performance if not better.
2. Don't know about XA1's speakers, but the speakers on G5+ are a bit disappointment. They are not loud enough for me, coming from a OnePlus One, however their front placement is a plus though don't expect to hear it in a very crowded setting.
3. Camera doesn't compare to S7 in ANY respect. If you expect this to perform as well as S7 please don't get this phone. It's nowhere near to it. However for the price, i don't think you'll find a better camera. It's great for social media needs, very good for good lighting conditions, average for low lighting. Video has EIS, so they are less shaky however lack of OIS hurts.
4. Regarding updates, Sony pushes out fast updates to its flagships, not that fast to midrangers. Moto on the other hand pushes out major updates fairly quickly though not as fast as they used to be, they are still comparable to other brands. Yes, Lenovo acquisition has made the software scene worse, but i guess it still is better than Sony's.
5. Regarding navigation, its top notch and lack of compass hurts only if you have no data or network signal. Otherwise it performs as well as any other phone, if you have decent data connection.
6. Yes, splash resistant means slight water exposure is fine. Just don't take it swimming with you.
Hope this helped
Many thanks the reply. But I would like to make some statements too.
According to http://www.specout.com/ the SD625 (of the G5 Plus) has a lower performing CPU than the XA1's Helio P20; the fact that the latter is newer and built on a newer 18nm process makes it better for battery life and a balanced performance. Agree or not?
You mentioned no stutters but you did not mentioned that with "only" 3GB of RAM (the only option here in the UK) the apps would load instantly using the multitasking pane? (Videos I have seen suggests apps in the background load up slowly. I could be wrong)
Re the speakers would you say they are better if not the same as last year's model?
Re the camera 9 out of 10 the video review I've seen so far makes the photos (& videos) looks dull, bland & lacking colour/contrast. Average low light doesn't sound encouraging to me. I don't know if it is because how the video was uploaded onto YT but so far it paints a not-so rosy picture. And you also mentioned the camera has EIS but only at 1080p at 30fps? True?
Is the storage based off eMMC or UFS standard?
I made a quick survey on Twitter and all who voted said Sony is faster in updates. But would you say Moto is still faster overall? Having no monthly security updates doesn't sound fast to me. And sometimes updates can be slightly faster in one region, slower in others. So, what is it really?
I still think having a compass would make a difference albeit incremental when using location services such as Google Maps, Weather or City Mapper or looking for an ATM or restaurant in a foreign city. A good network reception is not a guarantee (even here in London though most of the times it is very good) and having that extra piece of hardware will be a big bonus.
Re the nano coating if say i accidentally spill a glass of water or soda or dropped it into the sink for a few seconds or using my phone calling someone whilst it is raining would you say my phone won't get water damaged? (I always believe this nano coating is a half-hearted / money saving exercise as ports such the mic, USB charging port, headphone jack, speakers are prone to water. And when the water indicators have shown it Moto won't replace your device. That's how i see it.
From what I'm reading, you want the Xperia.
Go for it.
Sony is good with updates while Moto has been lazy lately. If you are concerned about updates and security, then Sony would be better but all depends on your requirements
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matrixzone said:
Sony is good with updates while Moto has been lazy lately. If you are concerned about updates and security, then Sony would be better but all depends on your requirements
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Both phones suit my requirements in one way or the other. But as a "precaution" it would be nice if a phone has a compass or magnetometer (which the G5 Plus doesn't have) , Cat-6 4G LTE (which both the XA1 and G5 Plus have) and nano coating for protection against minor water spills (which G5 Plus offers).
The XA1 is considered a mid-range phone which I heard Sony is quite slow in updating (apart from their higher mid-range or flagship models) whilst the Moto G5 Plus is also a mid-range phone but Lenovo has been slow to update lately.
So....which one?
Hi OP, which one did you get buying? I'm facing the same dilemma..
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Hi OP, which one did you get buying? I'm facing the same dilemma..
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I have not bought either phone. I am selling my Xperia XZ and trying to determine which one phone will meet my needs.
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I have not bought either phone. I am selling my Xperia XZ and trying to determine which one phone will meet my needs.
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I am also facing the same issue. But i am favouring the G5 plus.
Go for the xa1 plus instead. Humongous battery, fingerprint sensor, louder speakers, fantastic camera, slightly lower performance than flagships. Only drwaback is it's plastic though but still it's a 10 out of 10 appreance wise
Hi there.
I'm currently stuck in choosing between the Xperia X, the iPhone 6S & the Moto G5 Plus.
In terms of camera quality, no processor overheating + a balanced performance and battery life which one would you guys choose?
Which one also has a louder speaker than the other?
And which one has a camera lens that doesn't scratch easily?
iphone6s price wise very expensive - low ram / single sim / no sdcard
MotoG5, very good speakers, good performance, overheats, battery drain high over 4g, nice stockrom to enjoy daily interactions/ snapdragon430
XperiaX, low speaker volume, very good performance, never lags, overheats sometimes, moderate batter drains over 4g. powerful stockrom offers amazing features / snapdragon650
So, I take of the three the Xperia X offers a fine balance of everything?
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So, I take of the three the Xperia X offers a fine balance of everything?
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I would give the answer in a diplomatic way!
If today as Xperia X user i am given a choice to buy between the 3 devices you asked.
I would buy Sony X again!
with all its other flaws , X looks amazing in hand the screen is pure and vibrant that in night the icons seems like floating. touch sensor is highly sensitive and unlocks even before my thumb touches the powerbutton. the camera is amazing!
Even if the battery of the Xperia X is so-so?
I have the G5 Plus and the X.
The X has better camera (mostly due to OIS).
The X also has a better screen.
The X has more sensors, however the g5+ has fewer senors but it uses them better (moto actions and gestures).
The X looks better than the g5+
The G5+ has a better fingerprint scanner (but both are good).
The G5+ has fingerprint scanner gestures for navigation.
The battery life on G5+ is better. The G5+ does not over heat at all.
The G5+ is smoother than the X (overall performance) but both are pretty smooth.
G5+ camera probably scratches easier (so use a case)
G5+ speakers are louder (and headphone jack louder)
If you want a premium experience (almost flagship) you might want to go for the X.
If you are a social media junky, then you might need long battery life and should go for the g5+ (3gig or 4gig model).
Both phones are fantastic.
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Hi there.
I'm currently stuck in choosing between the Xperia X, the iPhone 6S & the Moto G5 Plus.
In terms of camera quality, no processor overheating + a balanced performance and battery life which one would you guys choose?
Which one also has a louder speaker than the other?
And which one has a camera lens that doesn't scratch easily?
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I guess you already have made up your mind, but here is my addition: The xperia x's speakers aren't of high volume, (you can't hear well if the place has lots of people or noise) but for a phone's speaker (dual-tone btw) I love how it sounds. Though, in order to get the most out of it it obviously needs to be placed on a flat surface. After quite some time, the lens haven't got a single scratch. The only complaints I have for the XX is the paint around the phone (where the buttons are). I'm not a wreckless user and it has a couple of marks (paint woren off). The screen is also a bit more scratch-prone than you would expect, get it a screen protector
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I have the G5 Plus and the X.
The X has better camera (mostly due to OIS).
The X also has a better screen.
The X has more sensors, however the g5+ has fewer senors but it uses them better (moto actions and gestures).
The X looks better than the g5+
The G5+ has a better fingerprint scanner (but both are good).
The G5+ has fingerprint scanner gestures for navigation.
The battery life on G5+ is better. The G5+ does not over heat at all.
The G5+ is smoother than the X (overall performance) but both are pretty smooth.
G5+ camera probably scratches easier (so use a case)
G5+ speakers are louder (and headphone jack louder)
If you want a premium experience (almost flagship) you might want to go for the X.
If you are a social media junky, then you might need long battery life and should go for the g5+ (3gig or 4gig model).
Both phones are fantastic.
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Have seen reviews of the G5 Plus and they all seem to have common themes:
Photos seem a bit bland & poor low-light photos
Multitasking & app loading is near abysmal as apps load constantly and doesn't load quick enough
True?
Photos are definitely not bland... I'll take a couple with both phones and post here for comparison. That said, Ive been pleased with the pictures the G5+ takes. Apps load very quickly on both phones, and if you get the 3/4 Gig version they stay in memory. The G5+ is a very very snappy phone.
I haven't had the x for long. This is just my general opinion. The general feel for the G5 + is that it is the best midrange phone, and I can say I agree with this statement. Anyway, photos to come.
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Photos are definitely not bland... I'll take a couple with both phones and post here for comparison. That said, Ive been pleased with the pictures the G5+ takes. Apps load very quickly on both phones, and if you get the 3/4 Gig version they stay in memory. The G5+ is a very very snappy phone.
I haven't had the x for long. This is just my general opinion. The general feel for the G5 + is that it is the best midrange phone, and I can say I agree with this statement. Anyway, photos to come.
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Will await for the photos.
So, 9 out of 10 written reviews and video reviews are either liars, trolls or paid to give negative reviews?
I need evidence photos taken in good light (outdoor), indoors (natural or artificial), low-light & night shots are better than the previous gen. I have yet to see a video that has some sort of EIS which again reviewers (& Moto) doesn't say has.
The UK only has the 3GB model and I'm quite concerned that again as per the videos Ive seen apps DO NOT stay in memory and they reload all the time which is a sign of poorly optimised software and poor memory management.
Ill post some photos tonight or tomorrow. Still won't make much of a difference. The X takes better pictures than the Moto G5+.
I know some reviews panned the G5+ for its camera. Others praised it. It is more than sufficient for the price in my opinion. Yes, the rear camera does seem to have EIS, motorola's product web page say it does also. It works OK, the X's works a little better.
Just a realistic run-down:
The G5+ on amazon is selling for 179 pounds . You only have the choice of 16Gigabytes which stinks, but you do get 3gigs of RAM.
Battery life will be better, pictures are sufficient and no its not the best in low light, but it gets the job done. Screen is plenty bright, the device is plenty snappy and Ive personally never seen an app reload. [Disclaimer, 4Gig/64Gig model here]. I'm not a social media junky. Need more internal memory? Buy a quick read/write rated micro sd card and use Nougat's adaptive storage option. A good micro Sd card costs 30 pounds. You don't have the option to do this on the Xperia X (out the box - you can enable it).
The Sony Xperia X is selling for 293 pounds in black -- ( more if you chose the other color options).. That's more than 100 pound premium over the G5+, but you get 32Gig of storage, a better camera, a sleeker package , a better but but smaller screen and a hit on battery life.
Now i wont be able to convince you that the G5+ is a better phone, but for the price and my use it is better. I bought mine for $299. My Xperia X can be had at $250 if I look around enough. The X @ $250 is a fantastic deal. the G5 model I have @ $299 is just as great a deal.\
If camera is the most important go for the X for sure. Just don't expect 4k recording on the X (G5+ can do it).
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Both Cameras are using auto matic modes, I-Intelligent for Sony, Auto for G5. I just started the camera , pointed it, and hit the shutter button (and or physical button).
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Ill post some photos tonight or tomorrow. Still won't make much of a difference. The X takes better pictures than the Moto G5+.
I know some reviews panned the G5+ for its camera. Others praised it. It is more than sufficient for the price in my opinion. Yes, the rear camera does seem to have EIS, motorola's product web page say it does also. It works OK, the X's works a little better.
Just a realistic run-down:
The G5+ on amazon is selling for 179 pounds . You only have the choice of 16Gigabytes which stinks, but you do get 3gigs of RAM.
Battery life will be better, pictures are sufficient and no its not the best in low light, but it gets the job done. Screen is plenty bright, the device is plenty snappy and Ive personally never seen an app reload. [Disclaimer, 4Gig/64Gig model here]. I'm not a social media junky. Need more internal memory? Buy a quick read/write rated micro sd card and use Nougat's adaptive storage option. A good micro Sd card costs 30 pounds. You don't have the option to do this on the Xperia X (out the box - you can enable it).
The Sony Xperia X is selling for 293 pounds in black -- ( more if you chose the other color options).. That's more than 100 pound premium over the G5+, but you get 32Gig of storage, a better camera, a sleeker package , a better but but smaller screen and a hit on battery life.
Now i wont be able to convince you that the G5+ is a better phone, but for the price and my use it is better. I bought mine for $299. My Xperia X can be had at $250 if I look around enough. The X @ $250 is a fantastic deal. the G5 model I have @ $299 is just as great a deal.\
If camera is the most important go for the X for sure. Just don't expect 4k recording on the X (G5+ can do it).
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what are you talking about? As soon as I got my XX I instantly popped in micro SD without problems.
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what are you talking about? As soon as I got my XX I instantly popped in micro SD without problems.
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You're taking about adding an external micro sd card. I'm taking adding to the internal memory size (where you store actual applications). Both phones support adding external microsd cards. Moto g5+ will let you do adaptive storage. Google: Android adaptive storage
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You're taking about adding an external micro sd card. I'm taking adding to the internal memory size (where you store actual applications). Both phones support adding external microsd cards. Moto g5+ will let you do adaptive storage. Google: Android adaptive storage
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Ohh I see. That's nice. Tho you can do that to your SD card too in XX (Merge it with internal storage) if I remember correctly there was an option for this in settings.
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Both Cameras are using auto matic modes, I-Intelligent for Sony, Auto for G5. I just started the camera , pointed it, and hit the shutter button (and or physical button).
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Hey Cheers for the photos. But if my eyes aren't decieving me the G5+ photos looks slightly better than the Xperia X. Would you agree?
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Ill post some photos tonight or tomorrow. Still won't make much of a difference. The X takes better pictures than the Moto G5+.
I know some reviews panned the G5+ for its camera. Others praised it. It is more than sufficient for the price in my opinion. Yes, the rear camera does seem to have EIS, motorola's product web page say it does also. It works OK, the X's works a little better.
Just a realistic run-down:
The G5+ on amazon is selling for 179 pounds . You only have the choice of 16Gigabytes which stinks, but you do get 3gigs of RAM.
Battery life will be better, pictures are sufficient and no its not the best in low light, but it gets the job done. Screen is plenty bright, the device is plenty snappy and Ive personally never seen an app reload. [Disclaimer, 4Gig/64Gig model here]. I'm not a social media junky. Need more internal memory? Buy a quick read/write rated micro sd card and use Nougat's adaptive storage option. A good micro Sd card costs 30 pounds. You don't have the option to do this on the Xperia X (out the box - you can enable it).
The Sony Xperia X is selling for 293 pounds in black -- ( more if you chose the other color options).. That's more than 100 pound premium over the G5+, but you get 32Gig of storage, a better camera, a sleeker package , a better but but smaller screen and a hit on battery life.
Now i wont be able to convince you that the G5+ is a better phone, but for the price and my use it is better. I bought mine for $299. My Xperia X can be had at $250 if I look around enough. The X @ $250 is a fantastic deal. the G5 model I have @ $299 is just as great a deal.\
If camera is the most important go for the X for sure. Just don't expect 4k recording on the X (G5+ can do it).
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If the Xperia X had a bigger screen then I would by it in a heartbeat. I find the 5.2" (or more) to be a sweet spot in terms of holding the phone, screen real estate, etc. But I still can't seem to shake off those other issues of the G5+.
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If the Xperia X had a bigger screen then I would by it in a heartbeat. I find the 5.2" (or more) to be a sweet spot in terms of holding the phone, screen real estate, etc. But I still can't seem to shake off those other issues of the G5+.
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Honestly .2 inches of real-estate isn't that much. The G5+ took some nice pictures indeed, so did the Sony X. I would say the Sony X is a tad more reliable in better pics in first shot. The G5+ will require that you hold the phone still for low light pics which can be problematic, but the shutter speed is more or less the same. Its not Samsung Galaxy low light performance... but it is fine for most people.
Good luck
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If the Xperia X had a bigger screen then I would by it in a heartbeat. I find the 5.2" (or more) to be a sweet spot in terms of holding the phone, screen real estate, etc. But I still can't seem to shake off those other issues of the G5+.
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Really, for 0,2 inches? The xperia X is very nice to hold and surprisingly it seems when you are holding it that it isn't only 5 inches. I did compare it to an other ☓peria phone with a bigger screen (5,2 or 5,5?) and honestly the difference was incredibly minor. I wanted to go for bigger too, but this phone has a very appealing size
Balanced choice would be the xperia x, but if you want performance, consistent camera (video and stills), and a good investment you can't go wrong with the 6s; it's a beast (used to own it as my main phone and I still miss it)