Missing storage with 64gb model... ? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Folks that have the 64gb model are reporting at least 5gb of storage not accounted for and the listing in storage settings does not account for it. The available storage is about 5GB less than the bloatastic Note 5 64gb.
Seems an allocation issue perhaps since nothing else seems to bridge it. The 64GB is technically a 59GB with the storage MIA.

rushless said:
Folks that have the 64gb model are reporting at least 5gb of storage not accounted for and the listing in storage settings does not account for it. The available storage is about 5GB less than the bloatastic Note 5 64gb.
Seems an allocation issue perhaps since nothing else seems to bridge it. The 64GB is technically a 59GB with the storage MIA.
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Just to clarify, you're not talking about the space taken up by the OS right? This is in addition to that?

Huh, I think you're right unless I'm looking at it wrong. The 32GB only has 24GB of available space. Should be around 28GB on a basically Pure Android rom I'd think.

You must take into account the os. ~5 gigs sounds about right.
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The LP version with all of its new tricks is a bit heavyset. This is my extremely debloated 2013 X.
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PiousInquisitor said:
You must take into account the os. ~5 gigs sounds about right.
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I agree, but in my photo above the 32GB is missing 8GB. I suppose that might not be too far off. I'd think Pure Android would take up about 4-5GB. I don't remember what it took up on the N6...maybe the extra Moto feature take up that much extra space? Who knows. I guess the 3GB isn't that big of a deal. Once we have an AOSP rom hanging around we'll be able to compare.
Edit: looks like the Nexus 6 had about 26GB of available storage. With this only having 24GB I would definitely assume the extra Moto stuff takes up that 2GB of storage.

The 64gb does not even show the 59.6 gb formatted that should be available before the allocation for the stock rom and apps. Something does not add up and based on the convention of storage and using the Note 5 64gb as example, the Pure 64GB is a 59gb device.
This device has 4gb less storage than the Note 5, which is alone telling something is wrong. Motorola has messed something up with allocation. The bad thing is a fix would mean starting from scratch.

Can someone chime in with what the 16 gb version is starting with free?
And I just took this screen shot on my N6 on the m preview. 32 gb version

Milly7 said:
Can someone chime in with what the 16 gb version is starting with free?
And I just took this screen shot on my N6 on the m preview. 32 gb version
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Nice. That kinda confirms that at least the 32 GB version of the Pure doesn't have any unaccounted for storage since its right at what your N6 has available (can't speak for the 64GB version).

rushless said:
The 64gb does not even show the 59.6 gb formatted that should be available before the allocation for the stock rom and apps. Something does not add up and based on the convention of storage and using the Note 5 64gb as example, the Pure 64GB is a 59gb device.
This device has 4gb less storage than the Note 5, which is alone telling something is wrong. Motorola has messed something up with allocation. The bad thing is a fix would mean starting from scratch.
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What do you mean by formatted? Post a picture of your storage settings page.
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Just for reference, my 64 GB Droid Turbo shows 53.45 GB available. I should receive my 64 GB Pure on Wednesday.

tcfiero said:
Just for reference, my 64 GB Droid Turbo shows 53.45 GB available. I should receive my 64 GB Pure on Wednesday.
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Two words bro: Verizon. Bloat.
Lol.
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I'm fairly sure this is what is happening:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=64+GB+to+GiB
Don't confuse GB with GiB. GB is where 1 MB = 1000 kilobytes and GiB is where 1 MB = 1024 kilobytes. Storage manufacturers typically use GB measurements for their storage capacities while some OSes (like Android) will report GiB capacities.
Basically put, there's no missing 5 GBs. Android is reporting the actual GiB size where as Motorola is telling you it's 64 GB size. The two are not equal.
For example, my MXPE:
32 GB storage option was my choice.
Total Space (Settings > Stroage) is: 24.06 GB. Keep in mind this is GiB, not GB. Lollipop stock ROM is roughly 4.5 to 5 GBs roughly. Tack back on 5 GBs, and we get 29.06 GB. This is the actual storage capacity of 32 GBs in GiB.

Acreo Aeneas said:
I'm fairly sure this is what is happening:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=64+GB+to+GiB
Don't confuse GB with GiB. GB is where 1 MB = 1000 kilobytes and GiB is where 1 MB = 1024 kilobytes. Storage manufacturers typically use GB measurements for their storage capacities while some OSes (like Android) will report GiB capacities.
Basically put, there's no missing 5 GBs. Android is reporting the actual GiB size where as Motorola is telling you it's 64 GB size. The two are not equal.
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Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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PiousInquisitor said:
Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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The thing is Android does not use GiB notation in the backend, so it becomes extra confusing to those who are used to GB notation.

Acreo Aeneas said:
The thing is Android does not use GiB notation in the backend, so it becomes extra confusing to those who are used to GB notation.
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The front end is what the user sees right? Settings>Storage for example, which shows GB. Where would one find where android shows GiB?
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PiousInquisitor said:
Good catch. Where does android report GiB though?
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PiousInquisitor said:
The front end is what the user sees right? Settings>Storage for example, which shows GB. Where would one find where android shows GiB?
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Settings > Storage is shown in GIB as far as I can tell. It's just that "GB" is used for GIB. Confused yet?

Simple point is the bloat monster Verizon Note 5 has 4.5gb more available storage out of box. I know users on two other forums that have the 64gb (and ordered when I did) that report the same issue.
Wild how I order a black grippy model with gray with no engraving or greeting and still in build status while others have theirs ordered same day with extra bling. Meh.

rushless said:
Simple point is the bloat monster Verizon Note 5 has 4.5gb more available storage out of box. I know users on two other forums that have the 64gb (and ordered when I did) that report the same issue.
Wild how I order a black grippy model with gray with no engraving or greeting and still in build status while others have theirs ordered same day with extra bling. Meh.
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I saw users reporting they had about 23.5 GB of usable space on the 32GB Verizon note 5 so that's actually slightly less than the 32GB Pure.

16GB has 9.5GB Available... Got my 32GB Samsung Pro immediately. Better get that Android M as promised asap.
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So why does my 64gb device report
53.18GB total size for device
Then my 64GB SanDisk microsd is showing
59.45GB total.
Should these be relatively close and not 5GB? Not that I care, but, if device is displaying in GiB then those values should both be lower. Motorola themselves has to be the ones claiming 64GiB vs 64GB.
I'm not being picking about device being 5GB shy of what it should be. But I'm hoping this can help make sense of it.

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[Q] Are there any versions of this tab with more than 16 gb?

I notice that all versions I see are only 16 GB of storage. I am sorry but that is pretty damn weak for a tab. The iPad goes to 64 GB.
I heard that there were 7.7 tabs up to 64 GB but haven even seen a 32 gb version around.
Is this something that is just planned for the distant future or is there a 32 gb and up version out somewhere?
Fom what i have seen, only 16Gb models are in stock for now.
32Gb and 64Gb will be available later on I guess.
DaveC1964 said:
I notice that all versions I see are only 16 GB of storage. I am sorry but that is pretty damn weak for a tab. The iPad goes to 64 GB.
I heard that there were 7.7 tabs up to 64 GB but haven even seen a 32 gb version around.
Is this something that is just planned for the distant future or is there a 32 gb and up version out somewhere?
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Yeah, the iPad goes up to 64GB, BUT, the iPad lacks a micro SD slot, AND since 64GB micro SD cards have already been confirmed working in the 7.7, there's your 64GB version right there!
Now... I wonder how much a 128GB micro SD card would be...
the 7.7 comes in 16, 32 and 64 versions
32 is already available for order from Expensyve... i mean Expansys
i'm waiting for the 64 GB version already own a 64 GB microSD so that'll adds up to 128 GB
and if they release the 128 microSD later this year/next year, then i'll definitely get it too and make this device a 192 GB portable entertainment unit ... and work of course... that's the whole reason we're getting it for anyways for "work" file under business expenses
AllGamer said:
the 7.7 comes in 16, 32 and 64 versions
32 is already available for order from Expensyve... i mean Expansys
i'm waiting for the 64 GB version already own a 64 GB microSD so that'll adds up to 128 GB
and if they release the 128 microSD later this year/next year, then i'll definitely get it too and make this device a 192 GB portable entertainment unit ... and work of course... that's the whole reason we're getting it for anyways for "work" file under business expenses
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Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
P.S. Where are you seeing the 7.7 as being available on Expansys? Either the 16 or the 32 GB version. Both the US and the Canadian sites show it as a pre-order only (still!!!)...
P.P.S Nevermind, I see it on the UK site. £599 though?! Ouch... That's like $945 USD!! Good lord...
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
P.S. Where are you seeing the 7.7 as being available on Expansys? Either the 16 or the 32 GB version. Both the US and the Canadian sites show it as a pre-order only (still!!!)...
P.P.S Nevermind, I see it on the UK site. £599 though?! Ouch... That's like $945 USD!! Good lord...
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yeah Expansys prices are always over the top vs. other retailers
16 gb = 499, 32 gb = 599, so if and when the 64 gb version does come out i'm sure it's going to be 699 pounds
hoping to find it on other places. definitely not buying it at those over priced prices from expansys
AllGamer said:
yeah Expansys prices are always over the top vs. other retailers
16 gb = 499, 32 gb = 599, so if and when the 64 gb version does come out i'm sure it's going to be 699 pounds
hoping to find it on other places
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I guess... Idk, it's your money man!! Personally I'll just be happy with my 16 + 64 + 2x32.
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
nice2meet said:
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
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If you root and edit the platform.xml file then all apps such as Dropbox can then write to the external SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178
If you don't want to root your device then yeah, nothing but the stock apps will be able to save to the SD card. You can still transfer files via MTP, but that's not the same.
nice2meet said:
Yes, a SD card is fine, but NOT if you want to use Dropbox, which doesn't work with SD, only internal storage (unless that recently changed).
So yes, I'm waiting for 64GB as well and so far, nothing in Spain
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I don't know about you, but currently, my dropbox space is only at 2GB, so that's a non-issue for me.
Besides that, with the external SD card permissions modified, how can you change where dropbox saves anyway? I haven't found the option in its settings...
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I don't know about you, but currently, my dropbox space is only at 2GB, so that's a non-issue for me.
Besides that, with the external SD card permissions modified, how can you change where dropbox saves anyway? I haven't found the option in its settings...
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The latest version of Dropbox has an option to "export to SD card". It doesn't create its own folders like previous versions but just lets you save files individually in your location of choice.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Yeah, the iPad goes up to 64GB, BUT, the iPad lacks a micro SD slot, AND since 64GB micro SD cards have already been confirmed working in the 7.7, there's your 64GB version right there!
Now... I wonder how much a 128GB micro SD card would be...
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Yeah but 64 GB SD cards are still a ripoff. When they get down to $59 where they should be then that is a good option. You can get 32 GB for around $30.00 and 64 GB is around $200, that is ridiculous!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Don't get me wrong, having 64 GB of internal storage would be nice and all, but honestly, with how much of my media I put on the cloud anyway, having a 64 GB external SD card is plenty good for me.
The way I'm set up now, all my pictures and music are stored in the cloud, and I basically just use my SD card for TV and movies.
But everyone is different!
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Yeah everyone is different and handing control of access to my stuff to the "cloud" is a poor option for me. I am not always connected to the net, and don't want to be just to look at a picture or listen to a song/album etc. I also would opt for a wifi only version as I don't want to pay for expensive 3G service. Plus SD access is much quicker than constantly downloading from the "cloud" and battery life is much better without having the modem radio always on . A 32 GB internal option would be nice for me I just hope it doesn't take them forever to release it.
burhanistan said:
The latest version of Dropbox has an option to "export to SD card". It doesn't create its own folders like previous versions but just lets you save files individually in your location of choice.
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Gotcha! I see that there, and I can confirm that exporting to my external SD works flawlessly using the mod mentioned a couple posts ago.
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DaveC1964 said:
Yeah but 64 GB SD cards are still a ripoff. When they get down to $59 where they should be then that is a good option. You can get 32 GB for around $30.00 and 64 GB is around $200, that is ridiculous!
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I bought mine on Amazon for about $150, which yeah, it's expensive, but it's still less than the ~$200 more you could expect to pay for a 64GB 7.7, not to mention that the cost of external memory will inevitably get cheaper anyway. Just my 2 cents.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I bought mine on Amazon for about $150, which yeah, it's expensive, but it's still less than the ~$200 more you could expect to pay for a 64GB 7.7, not to mention that the cost of external memory will inevitably get cheaper anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah but I want the internal mostly for apps and external for data (music, video, pictures etc). The thing I know is that "16 GB" is really not 16 GB. After they get done bloating it up with all of the crap they usually put on there you are lucky if you have 10 GB left.
Plus having 32 GB internal doesn't mean that I couldn't add 64 GB SD later when they get reasonable. More is always more and card swapping sucks (but at least you can do it unlike Apple stuff).
DaveC1964 said:
Yeah but I want the internal mostly for apps and external for data (music, video, pictures etc). The thing I know is that "16 GB" is really not 16 GB. After they get done bloating it up with all of the crap they usually put on there you are lucky if you have 10 GB left.
Plus having 32 GB internal doesn't mean that I couldn't add 64 GB SD later when they get reasonable. More is always more and card swapping sucks (but at least you can do it unlike Apple stuff).
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True. However, supposedly ICS will bring the ability to install apps to external storage. If this is the case, then that vastly improves what you can install.
For me, the way I currently run my 7.7, I minimize my internal memory usage by keeping my heavyweight media on my external SD (like movies and TV). My internal storage is almost exclusively used for apps and app data. All of my pictures and music are cloud-sourced, so if any of that is actually on my device, it's because it has been stored in the application cache data. By doing this, I still have about 8GB of headroom on my internal storage (out of the 13GB available), which is still plenty enough for me and whatever other apps I decide to install.
More than anything though, I'd rather have the 16GB model as soon as it's available, and then upgrade it with 64GB of external storage, than have to wait weeks, or even months, for the 32 or 64 GB versions.
I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
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Well it depends on how long it will be before the 32 GB ships out. If it is like 3 months away or something I would probably bite the bullet and get the 16 GB. All I know is that how things usually go is that I buy the 16 GB THEN they announce a week later that the 32 GB is shipping.
Having a 16 GB version at all seems dumb. I mean 32 GB micro SDs are around $30 and they make money selling them. The actual cost difference between 16 and 32 GB internal chip to Sammy (they actually make the flash memory) is what, $5.00? I would think it would cost more just to keep track of and make all of these different ones.
The GT-6810 (16Gb & 32Gb WiFi) has been available here for a couple of weeks now (Oz). That is when I got mine. No 3G models released yet AFAIK.
burhanistan said:
If you root and edit the platform.xml file then all apps such as Dropbox can then write to the external SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454178
If you don't want to root your device then yeah, nothing but the stock apps will be able to save to the SD card. You can still transfer files via MTP, but that's not the same.
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in my case i just resort to the good old Linux commands to mount this to there
so easy and so clean
i got most of the internal or sdcard stuff forwarded to the external SD
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I agree, more is always better of course, but I just don't have the patience to wait for it. If you do, then my hat goes off to you!
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I'm trying to hold off waiting for the 64GB version to come out, but if i can't resist the urges i might just go for the 32GB version that is already available
FarmBoi said:
The GT-6810 (16Gb & 32Gb WiFi) has been available here for a couple of weeks now (Oz). That is when I got mine. No 3G models released yet AFAIK.
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I wonder why no importers have it and no one on eBay is selling anything other than the 16 GB 3G version then? Seems weird. Anyone know where to find 32 GB wifi version?
DaveC1964 said:
I wonder why no importers have it and no one on eBay is selling anything other than the 16 GB 3G version then? Seems weird. Anyone know where to find 32 GB wifi version?
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UK retailer have them, like Expansys / Hantec / Cloves , etc

[Q] Actual formatted storage capacity of the Nexus 4?

I'm just curious if anyone knows what the actual storage amount available to the consumer out of the box will be for consumers on an 8GB or 16GB Nexus 4? I think I could make due with about 6.5 - 7 GB but I know there's no guarantee the OS & whatever else won't take up additional space. If anyone has any thoughts, feel free to chime in! 8 more days to go!
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I'm just curious if anyone knows what the actual storage amount available to the consumer out of the box will be for consumers on an 8GB or 16GB Nexus 4? I think I could make due with about 6.5 - 7 GB but I know there's no guarantee the OS & whatever else won't take up additional space. If anyone has any thoughts, feel free to chime in! 8 more days to go!
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Phil Nickinson of Android Central said he had approx 13gb free on his 16gb handset!
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StuMcBill said:
Phil Nickinson of Android Central said he had approx 13gb free on his 16gb handset!
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Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
Mohit12 said:
Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
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The difference between the free space and advertised space is not just the OS, but also has to do with the formatted capacity being lower. The 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space out of the box, so I imagine this will be similar.
It's definitely going to be 5.xx GB and 13.xx GB. That's the way it has been for a long time now. My 16GB Galaxy S has 13.43GB available for storage. I suspect the 2GB ROM space is taken out of the same NAND chip, correct me if I'm wrong.
Other thing to note is that the GB advertised is in decimal system.
eg: 8gb will have 8 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 = 8,000,000,000 bytes in decimal
In reality one kilo byte is 1024 bytes and so on:
So to startwith 8 GB is not really 8gb its 7.45 gb.
8,000,000,000 / (1024*1024*1024) = 7.45 GB
So the 5.92 that you see is not 8 - 5.92. But is 7.45 - 5.92.
Godamn gibabits... should be banned from advertising!
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Godamn gibabits... should be banned from advertising!
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It's actually the operating systems that are using the unit incorrectly. GB = gigabyte = 10^9 bytes. All of the OS developers chose to use GB = 1024^3. The IEEE officially endorses the metric interpretation (10^9). 1024^3 is really called a Gibibyte (GiB), but only Ubuntu and Mac OS have adopted this on the software side.
So even though harddrive manufacturers get all the blame, they're really the ones that are right.
Mohit12 said:
Wow! Are you serious?! That means the phone took up 3 gigs on it's own? So if you buy the 8 GB variant, you're left with just 5 GB? That's ridiculous.
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Can't tell if you're joking or not.... Has been a known fact for every device with internal storage.
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Saw one review video for a 16 GB version , user space will be 12.95 GB , thats slightly lesser than Galaxy Nexus ,(13.33 GB)

NEXUS 4 user available memory?

Can anyone clear up for me how much storage is actually available in the 8gb and 16gb models? I'm sure android reserves a chunk, but how big is it?
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5GB and 13GB
Allanitomwesh said:
Can anyone clear up for me how much storage is actually available in the 8gb and 16gb models? I'm sure android reserves a chunk, but how big is it?
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5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
LaviLoki said:
5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
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Around 5.4 GBs on the 8GB Model, 13.5 GBs on the 16 GB Model. I mean, the 8GB version must be enough for most people, But I have over 10Gbs of music that I listen to frequently, I will probably have to get the 16GB model as I don't trust cloud storage at all.
Yuvin said:
Around 5.4 GBs on the 8GB Model, 13.5 GBs on the 16 GB Model. I mean, the 8GB version must be enough for most people, But I have over 10Gbs of music that I listen to frequently, I will probably have to get the 16GB model as I don't trust cloud storage at all.
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use Google Music to store your music and just stream it. also you have the option to download the songs you want from your playlist.
Not bad at all. It's top of my list this phone,looks like it matches the Xperia P here. I'll be okay,I have 4gb right now,and I was thinking, 13GB is massive,when thinking about the XP .
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So the NEXUS 4 have 8gb n 16gb.... Y tmobile website say building 16gb n expendable to 64gb... Check where it say memory.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
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drshorty said:
So the NEXUS 4 have 8gb n 16gb.... Y tmobile website say building 16gb n expendable to 64gb... Check where it say memory.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
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Because T-Mobile is clueless... they also list Alarm Clock as a notable feature. Are you kidding me?
LaviLoki said:
5GB on the 8GB Model, 13GB on the 16GB Model. But with Custom Roms, this can probably be increased.
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I'm praying for 6.5 or 6 after ROM w/ a Custom Rom with the 8GB.
Yeah it'll probably get bigger with a lean ROM. Won't be rooting mine though. It's about time I played dumb like an iPhone User. Won't even theme it. Default wallpaper,the whole nine yards.

[Q] Says 16GB on the Box, but on the system it says 8Gb?

I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
Well...Just contact service support of samsung
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
Midnight_Rider said:
the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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Maybe but I came from S3, but isn't 8Gb too much for just bloatware? On my previous S3, the total available internal memory was 11.25gb. I would understand the 4.75Gb reduction because of the OS (I already have removed some bloatware) But 8Gb?
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but saying the device has 16gb storage when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
Obagleyfreer said:
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but come on saying the device has 16gb when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
Paolonicus said:
You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
Paolonicus said:
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
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This is why I Bought a 16GB extSD Card
Obagleyfreer said:
Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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Lol, ehat if I tell you that my xperia arc has only 420 mb of internal storage, the os takes 200 mb, but I have 359 mb FREE, I don't know how
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
gavinfabl said:
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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well true, but it has always been this way. not sure of any phone with internal memory that wasn't partially used by the phones OS, even non-android phones are like this, even iOS
Same issue with windows and Mac computers lol. But yes, I agree that 32 Gb should be new min standard because of app size increases as the years go by.
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Partially used is ok. Not 50% used. Big difference. And there needs to be a warning apps/games cannot be saved on the sd card - forget tweaks that's for tech geeks not the average person.
gavinfabl said:
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Well they neber stated 16gbs free or 16gb useable...so what woupd report them for? You expecting more?
Every device is like this...some more than others. But even blank hardrives/flash drives don't have as much as they claim...buy a terabyte blank hard drive and your actually only getting 9XXgb hard drive
And you cant really base it off the s3 as every year the system partition gets larger taking up more space...due to more features/bloat being added. The worst part is not even debloating will increase your free memory as the whole system partition needs to be changed if you want more user space
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So now we are justifying why it is ok for companies to do this? surely not. So if the S5 is 16gb with 4gb free that will be ok then?
no, its not ok, but you can try emailing samsung instead of beating a dead horse here
but here's the thing. hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for decades. when they say 16gb they dont mean gigabyte, they mean 16 billion bytes. there is a difference.
hard drive makers use base 10 in computing hard drive sizes, so when you see 16gb it really means 16 billion bytes which is less than what you think you are getting. those who understand binary know the difference. in base 2, if i say kilobyte, that means 1024 bytes, but on a hard drive, it means 1000 bytes. see the difference?
on my wife's Tmo S4 she has 9.62gb free from her 16gb internal memory, a lot yes, but not half
I have been in touch with Samsung. They blame Google. I've responded and awaiting a further response.
The available memory varies dependant on carrier. 9.62gb is the UK average I believe.
The other issue is Samsung doesn't sell the phone. It gets orders from carriers and wholesalers. The carriers and wholesalers all chose 16gb since they all thought the memory was expandable with sd card along with apps and games being able to be saved on the sd card.
Maybe a few months down the line we will see 32gb versions being available. I am hopeful.

[Q] 16 GB enough?

Hello!
I'm new here, so yeah will be getting a G2 soon!
I live in The Netherlands, and apparently the 32 GB version will become available after the release of the 16 GB model.
So I'm considering going for the 16 GB model, but I don't know if that's enough. How much storage does the ROM take? How many storage is there actually left for the user?
I will only put some music on it, quite some apps and a lot of tweaks.
Should I wait for the 32 GB model or do you think the 16 GB one is fine?
Thanks for your suggestions!
-Hugo
Hugo_Peters said:
Hello!
I'm new here, so yeah will be getting a G2 soon!
I live in The Netherlands, and apparently the 32 GB version will become available after the release of the 16 GB model.
So I'm considering going for the 16 GB model, but I don't know if that's enough. How much storage does the ROM take? How many storage is there actually left for the user?
I will only put some music on it, quite some apps and a lot of tweaks.
Should I wait for the 32 GB model or do you think the 16 GB one is fine?
Thanks for your suggestions!
-Hugo
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16gb has 10gb free for user.
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Depends on Storage Usage
Hugo_Peters said:
Hello!
Should I wait for the 32 GB model or do you think the 16 GB one is fine?
-Hugo
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Depends on what you store locally. Personally, most of my data is in the cloud (Dropbox, Box, Play Music, etc.), so I don't require much local storage. On my 16GB GS3, all I had on my external were ROMS, GAPPS, etc., and I never ran out of the local storage on the phone. But I live in an area with great coverage, so I do not need to rely on local storage.
Hugo_Peters said:
Hello!
I'm new here, so yeah will be getting a G2 soon!
I live in The Netherlands, and apparently the 32 GB version will become available after the release of the 16 GB model.
So I'm considering going for the 16 GB model, but I don't know if that's enough. How much storage does the ROM take? How many storage is there actually left for the user?
I will only put some music on it, quite some apps and a lot of tweaks.
Should I wait for the 32 GB model or do you think the 16 GB one is fine?
Thanks for your suggestions!
-Hugo
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My experience with the Galaxy S4 says: NO! 10 gb will go very fast once you install apps and take a few pictures and videos. And the fuller the phone gets, the worse it will run. I would say that 32 gb is the bare minimum for a phone today.

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