Just curious, I hope chiefs here don't mind about this question, but I really want to know why would you guys downgrade from Lollipop to KitKat? What's the problem about the update?, what's the things that you don't like?, is the performance of the device affected in a bad way? Or what issues does the update has?
Thanks in advance! :good:
Why should update at the end?
What's new in the Lollipop which could be useful to users, that is the question!
I mean, if you do not know what is new and revolutionary, why take a chance? Curiosity about?
P.S. before we get to the process of updating, changelog for Android Lollipop for the Samsung Galaxy A5 with important changes, will be useful.
Cigla tel. said:
Why should update at the end?
What's new in the Lollipop which could be useful to users, that is the question!
I mean, if you do not know what is new and revolutionary, why take a chance? Curiosity about?
P.S. before we get to the process of updating, changelog for Android Lollipop for the Samsung Galaxy A5 with important changes, will be useful.
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Unfortunately Samsung doesn't not provide change logs for firmware updates.
The reason why people are downgrading from KitKat to Lollipop is probably because of bad RAM management in Lollipop, buggy, not compatible with Xposed Framework, or perhaps not used to the new interface and prefers the KitKat interface instead.
Cigla tel. said:
Why should update at the end?
What's new in the Lollipop which could be useful to users, that is the question!
I mean, if you do not know what is new and revolutionary, why take a chance? Curiosity about?
P.S. before we get to the process of updating, changelog for Android Lollipop for the Samsung Galaxy A5 with important changes, will be useful.
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In fact for me was like a NEED, because having these device with 4.4.4 was like odd. I'm truly happy with 5.0.2 but I have found a lot of people like complaining about this and looking for the downgrade.
bernardwu said:
Unfortunately Samsung doesn't not provide change logs for firmware updates.
The reason why people are downgrading from KitKat to Lollipop is probably because of bad RAM management in Lollipop, buggy, not compatible with Xposed Framework, or perhaps not used to the new interface and prefers the KitKat interface instead.
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Yeah, maybe. But honestly I found really fast and lag free my device with 5.0.2. The only thing I could complain is about 'iPhone style notifications' but there's always chance of 'cancelling' them, so it's pretty easy indeed
the battery performance is a lot better, thats why i downgraded
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the battery performance is a lot better, thats why i downgraded
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That's a very good reason for downgrading... thanks a lot my friend (Y)
Because of, as compare to kitkat, lolypop is very slow version
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Hey guys, as you all know the big news about how we are recieving the big android 4.4 as announced by samsung, so what do we need to do in order to prep for this release?
Heres some tips!
1. Do a full nandroid backup! Even better yet, if you know how to, convert it to a odin flashable .tar
This is so if anything goes wrong, we have some chance of fixing the device
Backup
System, data, cache, efs
2. If you dont wanna lose warranty on your device then dont bother flashing the 4.4 firmware via odin, theres a real good chance samsung implemented knox. So just wait for a dev to release a stock, rooted rom without the bootloader and knox files included.
3. If you dont care about warranty then by all means, flash the latest firmware, and when it arrives, update via odin or simply on the device itself.
So the moral here is dont flash the new bootloader until someone either confirms there is no knox. Or just wait for a dev to release a knox-free 4.4.
Take care and get ready, get set, go!
there are a two thing i worried about and that is knox and i do not expect a huge update
Eagerly awaiting since yesterday
Egyptionman said:
there are a two thing i worried about and that is knox and i do not expect a huge update
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It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
Iqbal Ansari said:
It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
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actually ALOOT of things changed.. almost all 4.3 mods are not compatible with 4.4
1. because the android api level is higher
2. because almost every single file got a re-write
Iqbal Ansari said:
It is huge update but mostly under the hood changes. No cosmetic changes except the battery bar being white.
Implementation of project svelte is a huge advantage for devices having low ram.
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thanks
Will the international version of Galaxy S3 receive the update? I mean even if not, it's easy to port US version to International right guys? RIGHT?
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Will the international version of Galaxy S3 receive the update? I mean even if not, it's easy to port US version to International right guys? RIGHT?
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If US gets 4.4 then international certainly will as US is slower at updates than the rest of the world so theoretically the unlocked 19300 should get the updates first!
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Is there even confirmed that S3 will get the taste of chocolate bars?
Eleve11 said:
Is there even confirmed that S3 will get the taste of chocolate bars?
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check out the portal mate
you obviously missed the big news!
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check out the portal mate
you obviously missed the big news!
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Oh! Totally missed that heh...
To bad the official firmware thread is gone so Faryaab can't give us a hint of when... (what the hell happend to that thread ?)
Closing thread as there is already a 4.4 discussion thread
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. If you don't like the theme LG is using then stick with what you're using now.
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From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
1. is LG keeping their signature UI design in the upcoming upgrade Android 5.0?
Answer: yes because this is always how it has been and will continue to be, valid not only for LG. Exception of course Play editions for some makes. Pure Google/AOSP UI look without LG launcher/apps will always be via custom roms.
2. Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
1. is LG keeping their signature UI design in the upcoming upgrade Android 5.0?
Answer: yes because this is always how it has been and will continue to be, valid not only for LG. Exception of course Play editions for some makes. Pure Google/AOSP UI look without LG launcher/apps will always be via custom roms.
2. Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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Thank you for the answers, english is not my first language.
Also, will google now launcher from the store update to stock lollipop theme?
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
qbanlinxx said:
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
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+1
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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Don't worry, that fear is experienced by TouchWiz users long time go.
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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There's more, MUCH more, to 5.0 than just the UI. To be honest, the visual changes are actually secondary to the system changes as far as I am concerned. I'm far more interested in the power management updates, camera enhancements, etc... Material design is basically window dressing.
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+10000000 seriously !!
federer17 said:
From all the leaked screenshots we can see, android 5.0 looks exactly like the kitkat LG UI. We are not getting the pure, stock lollipop(like white drawer etc). So, if we are going to loose unlocked bootloader, do we really need it?
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Why did you think LG s going to release a AOSP looking L ?
Most of what you see in stock is just the Lollipop Now Launcher, which is limited and to my eyes ugly as sin. All that white is just horrible.
Most of the rest in the G3 is similar to the same as stock. Either way ill be using Nova, so its fine.
They will be changing it a bit
“The new features and improvements in Android 5.0 will bring a whole new user experience to the G3 and make it even better than it already is.”
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Source: http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroom/contents/64765
nerdo said:
If I understand you right there is two questions in what you wrote:
Will I loose my Bumb/unlocked bootloader if I take the official upgrade?
Answer: not sure that will work either, but ya one could loose ability to bump bootloader after flashing official update. As soon as the upgrade is official some stock rooted roms will pop up ready to be flashed. There is even a leaked android 5.0 around now
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[DEV][REF]How to add root support to LL boot.img
As long as you dont install the new bootloader, you can keep TWRP.
They figured out that the new boot.img could be bumped and flashed in the old bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/dev-how-to-add-root-support-to-ll-boot-t2936073
ChrisM75 said:
Most of what you see in stock is just the Lollipop Now Launcher, which is limited and to my eyes ugly as sin. All that white is just horrible.
Most of the rest in the G3 is similar to the same as stock. Either way ill be using Nova, so its fine.
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I thought I was the only one that thought stock 5.0 looked terrible.
qbanlinxx said:
Nobody on this site should take the ota, be patient and wait for a ROM to be available..
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Just curious, why?
droidmyworld said:
Just curious, why?
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becuase LG can block root or bump anytime at any updates. (then goodbay coustm roms utill they found other breach it can takes too long)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
Got it.. Thanks
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but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
Lex360 said:
but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
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This wasn't the case with the note 2. The update to 4.3 bootloader blocked going back to an earlier stock version of android.
Lex360 said:
but you can alwys return to an older (4.4) original kdz firmware (which contains the old bootloader) and one is back to save haven..r8? or am i missing something here?
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Also, although @autoprime has confirmed the release of Android L for the D855 does not implement anti-rollback, this does not mean that other variants will not implement something to keep us from going back to previous software versions, then you may be stuck with Android L but no root or TWRP permanently
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/update-to-lolipop-t2935491#post56665772
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So For now we can but with other new Ver. of L-5.0 we don't know
Hello,
Hisuite just updated to V.2.3.50 with added support for Android 5.0
It's safe to say that the Lollipop update is just around the corner
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Hello,
Hisuite just updated to V.2.3.50 with added support for Android 5.0
It's safe to say that the Lollipop update is just around the corner
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I will TRY to resist the TEMPTATION to NOT install the lollipop directly when it gets available, maybe wait 2 weeks for other people to tell us if it is better or worse.. especially if it it is Android 5.0 and not 5.1...with said it will be very hard to resist to not install it directly.
Maybe that is for mediapad x2, and new p8 support, those have lollipop. So I dont think we will get update soon.
Mr.Nice.ba said:
Maybe that is for mediapad x2, and new p8 support, those have lollipop. So I dont think we will get update soon.
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Thank you for killing the good mood
But you might be right.. but .it feels aobut time for M7 to get lollipop now.. it is still there "flagship" phone and it still does not have latest android version it is a shame..
blackinfinity said:
Thank you for killing the good mood
But you might be right.. but .it feels aobut time for M7 to get lollipop now.. it is still there "flagship" phone and it still does not have latest android version it is a shame..
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Let's just hope for the best. They may release the update after mediapad x2 and p8 is out. Its most likely be based on their updated versoon of android. And we may get a better one because they will testers for our update.
What I would like on the update is the tap to wake up function. I don't like using the flip cover. I like cases or bumpers and its easier if you can just tap to wake up.
Guys you really think u will be happy with 5.0 ???
BET with me once it will be avail. and u install it u'll be rolling back !
Did u been considering that u MIGHT NOT be able to root phone ? OR install custom recovery ?? You didn't right ? heh .. yeah
Well .. u might be surprised I just plaing with LG G3 which I had installed 5.0 and 1. There was no possible to root G3 ! only now recently released root program .. so so it is rooted
BUT
Not possible to install custom recovery (only in very difficult long way)
Xposed not working YET only by flashing another dificulty way ..
So no support at all .. devs. keeping slowly up .. but ..
Do u think somebody gonna bother to get all this working on huawei phones ?
Let's see.
But remember once again .. u will be rooling back sam eas I reverted G3 back to kitkat .. no lag at all..
For G3 all it needs is to downgrade to kitkat, instal custom recovery, than flash cm12 lolipop, all of this take max 25 min, not complicated at all.
Maby updating to lollipop will not relock bootloader, so flashing custom recovery will take 2 minutes, and flashing super su trought cwm also take one minute, so we can have lollipop and root very easy. I am waiting for lollipo because CM 12 rom, not for update with emui 3.0 on the top because everything will be the same as now.
Mr.Nice.ba said:
For G3 all it needs is to downgrade to kitkat, instal custom recovery, than flash cm12 lolipop, all of this take max 25 min, not complicated at all.
Maby updating to lollipop will not relock bootloader, so flashing custom recovery will take 2 minutes, and flashing super su trought cwm also take one minute, so we can have lollipop and root very easy. I am waiting for lollipo because CM 12 rom, not for update with emui 3.0 on the top because everything will be the same as now.
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You see? u said it by your self DOWNGRADING to kitkat so? whats the point getting lolipop..
And I said that I already downgraded.. to kitkat... this morning..
xposed works on 100% LG G3 tweaksBox , TWRP latest works 100%
NOTHING properly works on 5.0 ...
No mate there is no any unlocking or relocking bootloader.. like in huawei phones... and no there is no any CWM ONLY TWRP is made for G3...
Yeah there MIGHT be CM based on lolipop .. but again with so many buuugs not workings.. so best to stay on 4.4.2 for now..
And u said all be same no point ..
Don't understand what some ppl thinks when they see higher number 5.0 . or lolipop it it is gonna be better... aahh well
From Lolipop i expect only better battery optimization,nothing more.
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You see? u said it by your self DOWNGRADING to kitkat so? whats the point getting lolipop..
And I said that I already downgraded.. to kitkat... this morning..
xposed works on 100% LG G3 tweaksBox , TWRP latest works 100%
NOTHING properly works on 5.0 ...
No mate there is no any unlocking or relocking bootloader.. like in huawei phones... and no there is no any CWM ONLY TWRP is made for G3...
Yeah there MIGHT be CM based on lolipop .. but again with so many buuugs not workings.. so best to stay on 4.4.2 for now..
And u said all be same no point ..
Don't understand what some ppl thinks when they see higher number 5.0 . or lolipop it it is gonna be better... aahh well
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Calm down dude, at least we will be able to use ART
For me i use root only for blocking ads
Seeing that the February 2015 update for the gold version is no longer available for download form the huawei website (italy) maybe we'll get lucky and get lollipop finally.....at least I'm hoping so because I don't care if it can't be rooted etc etc....
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Seeing that the February 2015 update for the gold version is no longer available for download form the huawei website (italy) maybe we'll get lucky and get lollipop finally.....at least I'm hoping so because I don't care if it can't be rooted etc etc....
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I also don't need root esp on this device. But I could only hope for a stable smooth lollipop update.
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Hsuite 2.3.5.0
Hen Ry said:
Hsuite 2.3.5.0
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Can u see that virtual picture of phone in HiSuite? so that is new P8 look like .
netvlada said:
From Lolipop i expect only better battery optimization,nothing more.
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I want the Tap to wake up function fron honor 6 and other flagship phones. I dnt use the scanner much or locks. That function would be nice thing to have.
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netvlada said:
From Lolipop i expect only better battery optimization,nothing more.
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Won't happen, TBH.
Not much chance the first LP release will be smooth, you would be best hoping huawei used their brain & made effort on bugfix & improvements on JB & move on to LP once revisions/improvements been done by google team to LP.
I think the biggest disspointment will be a lot of functions that we associate with Lollipop will not be included...
Will we get new multi tasking view ? Probably not.
https://cdn3.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/reviews/3585263/Android-lollipop-review-multitasking_thumb.jpg
Will we get Lollipop notifications view ? probably not
http://offoindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lollypop-3.jpg
I think depressingly enough the biggest disappointment will be that it will be impossible to see the difference between current kitkat (that looks little bit like Lollipop already) and the new lollipop release, I think they will mainly try to make it look exactly like the old kitkat. I say this because of the latest Huawei tablet with lollipop, we must expect something similar...
What I hope though is improvements under the hood... Better performance which means better adjusted cpu cores how they throttles up and down..
right now there is microlag a lot...
I hope even faster and more smooth animations (if the GPU can handle it). Right now I have fastest animation setting .5x in developer options, but the problem is with the fastest setting it does not run as smooth as one would wish, but as it is now I prefer the fastness with some micro stutter to painfully slow animations which make me unproductive.
Batterylife I hope it can be improved a little bit even though. The androi system still use more then it should so I think there is potential..but still it is the modem that drains most of the battery...and software improvements can't make much of that .
I found lollipop update schedule
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I found lollipop update schedule
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Can you translate to English?
so my work gave me a brand new note 3 yesterday and ive been doing alot of reading. from what i gather (im on 4.4.4 build ktu84p.n900vvrudnk1) has no way of rooting. my question is should i just update to lollipop then or should i wait?
Go for lollipop. It is a MAJOR upgrade and a MAJOR improvement.
KruseLudsMobile said:
Go for lollipop. It is a MAJOR upgrade and a MAJOR improvement.
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thanks , you are so right, touchwiz under kitkat was hideous
Im uploading stock lollipop for v500 - V50030a_00.kdz
ill place the link here soon as it finishes.
download - http://www.mediafire.com/download/wlzg6tlzz19k6ix/V50030a_00.kdz
i used this method to flash it with success:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190
ill update the OP with new developments.
regards
Is this the European version? Or is it the same Korean version which is floating around for a few weeks now?
edisso10018 said:
Is this the European version? Or is it the same Korean version which is floating around for a few weeks now?
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korean, but it has all the languages and inputs.
wow .... thats really cool
when this will be available for other regions ?
That is the big question. LG sure seems to take lots of time for releases outside of Korea.
Great! Does anyone know a way to root?
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korean, but it has all the languages and inputs.
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Yes, but isn't this the same rom as already posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/tutorial-korea-v30a-how-to-flash-t3076576
Yep.
Works great, thanks. Nice to have no drama JB finally
The md5 I have after download is 7f0c634124fe0b40c35dad8e9047c03a
Can anyone else confirm? I just confirmed it from the other thread...
Will I still receive any official ota updates after I flash this kdz (if there'll even be any in future)? Say like minor updates and bugs fixes?
Fullmetal Jun said:
Will I still receive any official ota updates after I flash this kdz (if there'll even be any in future)? Say like minor updates and bugs fixes?
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yep, its official firmware.
regards.
First impression after update? Does It worth?
derekk75j said:
First impression after update? Does It worth?
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If you are still running the official stock before lollipop it is a definite improvement, however LG should be releasing the actual official release here sooner (starts trying not to laugh) or later.
Oh who am I kidding, we aren't seeing the official update until fall here in the states for the V500.
LG's non phone updates are difficult to forecast to say the least. They seem to be primarily focusing on their phones (G2, G3 and now the G4) the tablet business appears to be an afterthought.
The QPair stuff seems to finally be working for me after testing this weekend. In previous situations it could not handle disconnections and reconnections very well. Now that both devices are running lollipop and the latest version of QPair things seem to be working better... In addition my problem with SDCard's perpetually unmounting on stock 4.4.2 appears to have gone away with lollipop. My problem after a long amount of research, only occurred when the pad sleeps in a certain way. I do not have to root and disable a certain sleep mode anymore with the new release (so far with one week of testing the Korean v500 release).
muiriddin said:
My problem after a long amount of research, only occurred when the pad sleeps in a certain way. I do not have to root and disable a certain sleep mode anymore with the new release (so far with one week of testing the Korean v500 release).
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Can u be more precise about the issue? I didn't understand what you're trying to say.
I'm gonna update with the Korean version as I can no longer wait for the update, but time is preventing me
There is a thread about it.... Basically the sdcard starts unmounting uncontrollably. It is now (as of this evening) confirmed to still be present in the Korean release. Which means as before I will avoid the LG built kernel... If you want you can monitor your tablet with the app called sdcard monitor by Ahmed Moharram in the play store. If you get bad removals without rebooting your tablet you have the problem.
The thread that I was thinking of is linked below, and other threads/posts are referenced in my post in that thread... I find that running certain roms or kernels avoids the issue completely which really bothers me since it means that the devs know this tablet better than LG actually does... I know it isn't a hardware problem since the 4.2.2 original release of the software for this tablet does not exhibit the issue...
Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/general/solved-sd-card-unmounting-issue-t3053909
I thought the notification names and related were changed to English default in this rom, but it isn't.
There's a qvoice app which displays everything in Korean. What's that?
Better battery life yes, but takes time to set up again!!
can it be dirty install?
Can this rom be dirty install without problems? Much obliged for your intention and answer.
Chestanuky said:
Can this rom be dirty install without problems? Much obliged for your intention and answer.
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Dirty install over what? Not over a KitKat ROM.
thanks for the quick response