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Getting a new SD card. Q's about App2SD, Swap

I'm currently running cyanogenmod 5.0.8, and my 8GB A-Data class 6 SD card should be here soon.
I downloaded a program called swapper 2 and it seems to be working. When I get the new SD card should I stick with this program or do the partition method? Does anyone have experience with this program compaired to the other methods?
I also have Comp cache enabled too. Any thoughts on if I should use both or one?
For App2SD I noticed in the settings you can enable it there but its grayed out. I imagine once I put the new SD card in there it will partition the space for it then?
Thanks for the help. If you have any links to some good info that would be great too.

I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).

AdrianK said:
I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
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Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
AdrianK said:
EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).
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Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!

Njord0 said:
Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
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Yeah I mean when it has to redraw everything when it gets kicked out of memory. It used to happen every time I excited an app on CM5 and CM6 (nightly build), but now that I've added a 32mb swap file with swapper2 (it doesn't like my partition :'( ) they've all disappeared.
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Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!
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The ext/hackjob method will let you keep any apps on SD
I'm not sure if it will move them for you, but you can physically move the files yourself. It's just a couple of commands in the terminal in a reboot (wont get in to it now, it's 3AM and I'm tired, so I'll probably get it wrong ).

I would like to say that I've always used a partition. In the case that swap kills my SDCard, I would like it to be a certain fraction of the SDCard that dies, not a block here and a block there. I think that's more ocd, though.

[Q] Kyrillos' ROM v3.3 App2Sd doesn't work

hi all,
I followed the instruction from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123 to the letter but the app2Sd still doesn't work.
Tried it numerous times now and also with older versions of Kyrillos but my Internal memory isn't increasing.
The SD card seems to be taken of about the same memmory that I ask to convert to appdata and swap memory, but the internal memmory isn't stated to be increased.
Anyone know what I might be doing wrong ,or is there a better manual for this application?

after installing rom ROOT THE PHONE!!!
app2sd will not work without root
apply app2sd partition &u'll get superuser permission request, select allow
(the phone will reboot and sd card will show unsupported format)
then download android terminal emulator from market(free!!)
open the emulator and u'll get a blue screen
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su(enter)
mkfs.vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1(enter)
(wait for # to come onto the next line)
reboot(enter)
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sheron said:
after installing rom ROOT THE PHONE!!!
app2sd will not work without root
apply app2sd partition &u'll get superuser permission request, select allow
(the phone will reboot and sd card will show unsupported format)
then download android terminal emulator from market(free!!)
open the emulator and u'll get a blue screen
type --(commands)
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su(enter)
mkfs.vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1(enter)
(wait for # to come onto the next line)
reboot(enter)
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the applications are included in the software of Kyrillos and phone is pre rooted and working.
I did all steps that you stated, as also described in the original post of Kyrillos.
again, after doing all those steps I do see more then a gig less on my SD card, but I don't see the Internal memory increasin. It just keeps at 105MB

I have the same problem, can someone help or explain how we get this working?

wodka2650 said:
the applications are included in the software of Kyrillos and phone is pre rooted and working.
I did all steps that you stated, as also described in the original post of Kyrillos.
again, after doing all those steps I do see more then a gig less on my SD card, but I don't see the Internal memory increasin. It just keeps at 105MB
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have you check with titanium beckup ?????

pator5 said:
have you check with titanium beckup ?????
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you CAN'T see the effects in settings.go to market download titanium and check it

So when I see in Titanium Backup both Internal and SD card it doesn't work? And when I see Internal, SD Card and SD Card(a2sd) it does work?

tomgreep said:
so when i see in titanium backup both internal and sd card it doesn't work? And when i see internal, sd card and sd card(a2sd) it does work?
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yes do you see internal sd and a2sd????

pator5 said:
yes do you see internal sd and a2sd????
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Yep, so lucky me, probably it works. And it's correct I cannot see this anywhere else (in the settings for example)

tomgreep said:
Yep, so lucky me, probably it works. And it's correct I cannot see this anywhere else (in the settings for example)
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OK now with in titanium go to bath look for "move all app to internal mem" and you're done ENJOY

then why does my internal memmory still gets full? Do I need to move the applications with another tool to the app2SD partition?

wodka2650 said:
then why does my internal memmory still gets full? Do i need to move the applications with another tool to the app2sd partition?
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where did you saw that internal memory gets full in titanium or in settings???

btw, it is correct the internal storage in settings stays the same as it was before a2sd?

I think I'm starting to get the hang of it
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tomgreep said:
btw, it is correct the internal storage in settings stays the same as it was before a2sd?
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yes that's the point after i while you will in settings that memory is decreasing but that's the data of app you will use

ok cool, I ran the batch you told and now my internal memory stays clean, thanks!

you can't see it in the phone settings.. but for a test see how much internal memory you have that your phone tells you, then install a large app like angry birds or something, and it should only go down by 1-2mb

How can I expand my internal storage?

Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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A2SD is your answer
CustardNOM said:
Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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?? What ROM r u using ??
The easiest way is using application or script that move application to SD card. These things will move your application to your sd card and not wasting your internal memory. it's work perfectly fine.
There are many script available - chose one that match your ROM cause not all script are working perfectly to every ROM.
try search using A2SD and ....... (your ROM) to see which one work and which one donot...... Unfortunately i have to tell u that some script might working well with someone's phone (even u have the same ROM).
The second way is to install the app to SD program, like link2sd, app2sd... it's free on the market. Also this program is not working on everyone's phone. However it's easier to install.
after install script and application there might be a problem like low sound, lag, internet issue etc. so check that everything is Ok after u do anything.
I can't give u a step by step 'cause i dont know which ROM r u using.....

CustardNOM said:
Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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it's different for roms indeed. generally we have app2sd, app2sd+(aka app2ext), data2ext, d2sd, ad2sdx and so on.
the most basic and convenient 1 is link2sd from play store~

i think it's impossible to expand an internal storage. capacity is fixed. i read somewhere that some of space will be used for kernel and ROMs wil use another some of internal memory space to copy system files. so normally you will have internal memory available around 150-200MB depends on partition layout you make. the only way if you want to install many application is as mentioned above to move your application to SDcard,and i think link2sd app is the easiest way to do that

[GUIDE] Resolve Low Internal Space Issues

Well if you’re here you’ve probably gone and bought the ZTE Blade or one of its variants (Orange San Francisco, Dell XCD35 or the Idea Blade). You’ve probably been using it for a while now and I’m pretty sure you’ve come to that annoying moment when you download an awesome new app and get that pesky notification saying “Not enough memory”. Here’s a way to fix that problem albeit temporarily for rooted and non-rooted users alike
# Non Rooted Users:
First off, if you’re Android version says 2.1, it means you’ve got a Gen1 device. It’d be best top update it to a Gen2 device yourself using a TPT, or ask your manufacturer to do it for you. Now assuming you have a Gen2 device, i.e. your Android version says 2.2, this is how you go about getting space to install more apps.
-Once you install an app, open the settings menu
-Go to the “Applications” menu and select the “Downloaded” tab
-Select any application
-Keep in mind that this works only for applications that have been granted movability by their developer
-Android 2.2 onwards has an inbuilt option that allows users to move part of the app to the SD card. You should see an option saying “Move to SD Card”. If you do not see it, or it is grayed out, that means the developer has restricted the option. This is common for some apps like widgets
-Repeat for any number of apps you want.
Note : This provides only a little breathing space and allows you to squeeze in a few more apps. The root methods are far more effective. There's also an app called APP2SD to help with this on Google Play
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# Rooted Users
The following methods are only for rooted users. To check if your phone is rooted, download the Root Checker app from Google Play. Rooted users have two methods of increasing storage space: Apps2SD+ and A2SD.
Apps2SD+ is similar to the inbuilt option that comes with Android 2.2. However, this enables rooted users to move more of the app to the SD card and also move ANY application to the SD card irrespective of the developer’s restrictions. There are two things that must be kept in mind while using this method. One, widgets do not work if moved to the SD card, so refrain from doing that. Two, the SD card is read after booting, so moving too many apps to the SD card (75+) will cause the phone to hang a lot at boot and reboot several times. This is done using an app. I recommend "DroidSail SuperApps2SD''
A2SD is the process of partitioning the SD card and using it as phone storage. This is by far the best method to increase storage space as a 1GB partition allows you to install 500+ apps, the ease of use and performance aside. This is available for most ROMs if they support an sd-ext script. Partitioning the SD card can be done using Minitool Partition Wizard or by ClockworkMod Recovery. The recommended partition size is 1GB as this is more than enough. The swap should be kept at 0MB or if you use the phone for gaming, at 32MB. Once the memory card is partitioned, the apps along with all their data can be moved to this partition. This can be done by two ways. DarkTremor A2SD scripts for most ROMs, or S2E for CyanogenMod. This is very easy to use and having done it myself, I have 450 apps and the phone’s performance isn’t the slightest bit affected.
Partitioned and still no space? See this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933144
Good Luck installing those 500 apps and showing off with them

Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!

matt4321 said:
Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!
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Awesome tutorial!
+1.
Already knew this but good for other who don't know! :laugh:

DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!

Di0g0 said:
DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!
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Have u run the script?

QuantumFoam said:
Have u run the script?
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Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.

Di0g0 said:
Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.
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No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first

QuantumFoam said:
No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first
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The script doesn't work on my phone :X

Di0g0 said:
The script doesn't work on my phone :X
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Why not? Which rom?

QuantumFoam said:
Why not? Which rom?
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Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....

Di0g0 said:
Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....
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Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon

QuantumFoam said:
Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon
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I installed via Clockwork recovery and I created the sd partition, maybe my partition is ext2 :x I don't know how to change to ext3!

"sdmove " and "sd watch" app this automatically detect the app which can move to sd
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......

unmesh.ghodke said:
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......
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Apps2SD by Sam Lu does the exact same thing
Also, I would appreciate it if you stopped posting as if your life is in danger with the bold red font
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I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?

vittal said:
I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?
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Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD

QuantumFoam said:
Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD
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Or link2sd which works pretty well.

hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?

insurgente said:
hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?
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Rooting and then using the solutions in the op seems to be the only plausible option.
However, you can try a cache cleaning app. Should give you 10-15MB depending on how many apps have cached data
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good app..

[Q] Can't Move Apps to SD Card and minor problems..

OK I have Samsung Galaxy S2 I installed Omni ROM currently I have Kitkat 4.4 nearly everything is smooth but my SD card dissent works I can't install anything on it or move any apps please help me ..Also a minor problem how do I lower my ram cause I am keep getting errors like that my app is not responding is there any way to over clock ram..Anyways please help me with SD card..And also how to make good back up and how to back up with it..and is it save to use new updates like Android 4.4.2 Nightly updates.Anyways please help it would be best if you can answear me on all questions..Thanks.

Moving apps to SD is not working anymore on new version of android
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hichem jerbi said:
Moving apps to SD is not working anymore on new version of android
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really, thanks :good:

hichem jerbi said:
Moving apps to SD is not working anymore on new version of android
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Wait... what??? For real?
This would effectively prevent me from using OmniROM ever.
Are you saying it's a bug, or that the feature has truly been eliminated going forward?

Security and file system changes have caused certain "move app to external storage" scripts and apps to fail. This is not an Android-level issue.

jeffsf said:
Security and file system changes have caused certain "move app to external storage" scripts and apps to fail. This is not an Android-level issue.
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Do you know then, is there a way to fool apps to install at least their data on external card?
On N7100 there is mere 10GB of space, install 2 gameloft games, and phone cries it's out of storage space. And I have 64GB card, 128GB on its way.
I understand they cry for FAT32's lack of permission support, but what If I format the card in ext4?
Or could I possibly swap internal and external card (I, of course, understand it's risky and dangerous action).

I haven't looked into it yet, but this might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188

PonsAsinorem said:
I haven't looked into it yet, but this might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188
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That's not the issue here.
I can read/write on both sdcards (emulated and physical).
Problem is that internal space runs out quickly, and there is no obvious way to force apps to use external card instead of emulated.
I.e. If I install Nova 3 (3.5 GB), Asphalt 8 (3.7 GB) and Galaxy on Fire 2 (1.2 GB), uce omnirom system update and make couple of photos, I'm out of space, and can't even update apps through google play, because it requires alot of extra space, not even mention i.e. recording a video. And my 64GB card sits useless in its slot.

Use link2sd
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fearophobia said:
Use link2sd
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IT WORKS!!!!!!
Thank you!

Vatharian said:
IT WORKS!!!!!!
Thank you!
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Glad to hear it. And youre welcome
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Move apps to SD
Hello i have the same Problem on my Ascend P6, and Link2Sd dosent work, is there any other chance or tool to fix it?
P6-U06
Andriod 4.4.4
Omniversion 4.4.4.20140725

no apps2sd workaround
Vatharian said:
Do you know then, is there a way to fool apps to install at least their data on external card?
On N7100 there is mere 10GB of space, install 2 gameloft games, and phone cries it's out of storage space. And I have 64GB card, 128GB on its way.
I understand they cry for FAT32's lack of permission support, but what If I format the card in ext4?
Or could I possibly swap internal and external card (I, of course, understand it's risky and dangerous action).
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If you are rooted you can accomplish this by using an app called folder mount. When you open the app use the add button at the top right name the folder, for example (RR3) for real racing, then tap the source button and navigate to the folder the app data is stored in, for games usually android/data or android/obb chose that folder and leave the destination folder name the same, it will prompt you so just chose yes, press the check button at the top right and then wait for the folder to be moved, you can monitor the progress in the status bar, it may take some time if it is a large game or app, when it is complete simply press the mount button in the folder mount app then go back and play your game. to verify that the folder was moved successfully check your internal storage in android settings before and after you use folder mount. Make sure before you use the app or game you have the folder mounted or you may get an error or in the case of real racing the game tried to redownload all the game assets. Hope this helps.

thank you