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The launcher redraws are killing me.

Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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Root and update now, or wait and update later.

Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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nobnut said:
Root and update now, or wait and update later.
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Update to what? The Jellybean leaks fix it?

eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
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I agree, seems odd to me that samsung didn't lock TW into memory. I'm using Apex and while the problem isn't fully gone, it's much better than it was. They should have done a better job with the stock launcher imo.

Fade777 said:
Understand your pain bro...
I used to get some hard core redraws until I froze a bunch of apps I didn't need.. boom now the max redraw I'd have would take like 1sec and that's always the wether widget.
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I've also disabled lots of sammy apps (not frozen them).
Can you tell the main culpits?

I haven't had a launcher redraw since 1974 (ok, slight exaggeration). I have always rooted (there are lots of fixes for redrawers) but yes, JB fixes it.

I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.

eggman89 said:
I also downloaded Ram Manager Pro, as it has a "lock launcher in memory" option.
WHile that might have helped ( or just placebo) , but the problem is still there and I'm facing it a lot of times.
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Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.

Use all in one toolbox. Goto boot speed up and see what 3rd party crap app is taking up your resources on boot up.
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jlevy73 said:
Are you using a custom Rom or still on stock? How about kernel? If you are rooted you can use titanium backup to freeze a lot of apps which will free up available RAM reducing redraws.
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I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.

hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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gordonx10i said:
hey,
try this settings》developer 》animation scale set to off.
aswells as transition scale off
hope This helps
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Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.

eggman89 said:
I'm rooted, but everything stock. And I intend to keep it that way.
Really don't want any other ROm or Kernal as I'm quite satisfied with the Stock ones.
I use Nova launcher btw.
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you don't sound happy with stock, maybe you should have a go at the latest LI5 jb leaks, the odin version seems to me to be the easiest way, takes about 5 mins literally.
Rumour has it that the official will be out sometime this week as an official update, but only on international roms i think.
I think if you want to update officially, you would need to flash via ODIN the international version of ICS which is Samsung official, and that will update when the time is right. if you are on a specific carrier version then they might take a while longer to push the updates to you! (at least that is what i am led to believe!)
By the way, i have never experienced any redraw problems from TW either on galaxy s2 or s3 using stock or custom roms. the JB roms are really smooth too.
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eggman89 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. But I do not think it'll solve the issue.
Also I want all the bells and whistles. What's the point of this mighty hardware if I have to turn off the animations and fancy stuff.
I might just get a basic Android phone.
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and there are more than bells and whistles on JB.......

Really glad I use sslauncher. No redraws on it.
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So... are people now saying jb DOES fix the redraw completely?
My understanding (from all the comments I read on each new leak) was that it HASN'T been fixed.
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Latest leaked JellyBean ROMs give 100 MB more available RAM, which is desperately needed on this phone. Should ease your redraw problems. Try it out.

eggman89 said:
Hi
Before I start let me tell you that I just love this phone. It's amazing and super snappy.. Almost.
However the launcher redraws are so bad on this one.
Now this is my first Android cell, so I'm not sure if it's a Android issue or S3 issue.
Just a simple scenario. If I go to Play Store browse some apps, see few videos for say 5 mins max and hit the Home button, the launcher would redraw.
It easily takes about 5-6 seconds. Sometimes the home screen would appear in a second but If I hit the app drawer button, it would load for almost 4-5 embarrassing.
Now I know there are few solutions posted for it, but frankly I paid Samsung to do that for me. And to a noob like me, it's not very simple.
It's unbelievable how bad the problem is.
I think just locking it in the Memory, would solve the issue.
Why hasn't Samsung fixed it yet?
It's embarrassing that my old iTouch (I hate Apple btw.) could get out of heavy games within a second.
Why is this beast so laggy? Everyday I face this issue for 5-6 times.
It's driving me mad.
To be honest everytime I browse from more than 10 mins, I feel scared.
Will Sammy ever fix it or the only option is to go through the complex process posted in some other thread.
I'm seriously disappointed in this regard.
I'm on stock ICS, rooted btw.
/rant over.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
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Wait just a little longer. Jelly bean doesn't have this issue.
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I wish redraws were the worst problem - browser quitting on me is a bloody nightmare...

Not sure why you people have all of these problems? maybe its an app you have installed or something? I dont get any 5 second redraws or browser crashing.

Note 3 only show 2.38G Ram?

As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks

xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks
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That's because the rest is system reserved.

Gpu memory?

Is it the case that when Cyanogenmod/AOSP comes our way, they could release more usable RAM?
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The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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ZombieZonny said:
That's because the rest is system reserved.
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Is it possible to let it to release more ram for daily use? Just wonder not much in term of hardware (at least I think so) upgrade if compare with note 2 but in term of memory reserve,it seem like 3 time bigger than note 2...thank you very much

Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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TheRealFelix0212 said:
Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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Android 4.3 works fine on every 2Gig Device like Nexus.. Why should 3Gigs of RAM don't reach for 4.3 here?
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As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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*GalaxyDev* said:
As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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MohJee said:
The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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That it is a samsung lie. Other phones with the SD800 and 2gb of ram gives the user 1.81gb like the LG G2 or the nexus 5 in screenshots.
So, if LG only takes 190mb of ram with the same processor, theres no reason to take 500 by samsung, or at least not by the GPU. And if samsung needs 700mb for the s-crapware preinstalled, well, thats unfortunate.
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gordonzhao said:
I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.

I have found my note 3 freezes considerably when only few apps are running in the background. I'm constantly closing apps via task manager which I didn't have to on my HTC one. So something clearly isn't working as it should. This was one of the reasons why i moved away from samsung phones in the past.
I do like note 3 but I can't help feeling it's over bloated. I've had 3 note 3's all have the same issue.

Having 4 hours of use since it came out of the box nothing has been slow about it, even while restoring and using the phone. Once again my 2 was lagging with a fair number of apps running in the background if I didn't kill it.
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Was running myrom revolution (tw base)
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kersh said:
So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.
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I have 382 apps installed, and my RAM sticks at 1.2GB in use even without closing anything... Drops to 800MB in use when I clean them (and a lovely '62 apps closed' popup).
So I have no idea what is eating so much on yours as to require RAMmanagers.

gordonzhao said:
I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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What are you doing on your phone? lol, I'll say "I" don't need more RAM, apparently you do

I have yet to see any major issues with ram. I often check my available ram and only on 1 occasion i have used over 2GB ram, and i had loads of apps still open.
Not had any system slow downs so far.

Ftr, mine showed about 1.8/2.3 and phone was slowing down already, this was due to me intentionally not killing any apps.
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the htc one shows 1.5 !!!

Seems to me, we have 2.39 GB RAM phones.
I wonder why Samsung lied about that.

xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks
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Are u on JB or KK. when my phone is on JB its only 2.4 GB RAM so i flash stock firmware KK now its 2.71 GB
Sorry for bad eng

[Q] Note 3 RAM consumption

By default (no additional apps installed yet), Note 3 consume almost 1,4GB of its RAM. Is it normal? Can we disable or uninstall some useless apps/services from it? Any recommendation? I need more free RAM to run other apps.

Device doesn't manage its memory well enough for you?

this beast suck a lots of memory, i ran only few apps memory remain at 400mb free WTF, when i clear memory i saw it clear 40+ apps ,so it look like many samsung junk apps run in background.
-No custom for me at this time, i'm not big fan of Omega Rom. Wait for more custom rom.

Why wouldn't you want the device to cache Apps in RAM?

RAM is there to be used, not to be empty so you can see a big non-utilized number. If new opened applications need more RAM, the OS will automatically clear the old stored data to make room for new ones. It even explains this in the task manager if you bothered to read.

RAM is indeed to be used. But it's not pleasant to see your rebootet phone is slurping up 1GB of ram immediatly.
I've rooted mine and loaded up Omega. I deleted all useless apps. I'm running now on 500 - 700MB after booting up
This means for me less bloatware and more private apps that I downloaded can be cached
Win-Win Situation

After clearing memory I have a gig used somehow and it's pissing me off to be quite honest cause I can't work out what's using it all
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Drizzy xS said:
After clearing memory I have a gig used somehow and it's pissing me off to be quite honest cause I can't work out what's using it all
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I'm with MohJee here; Android is just using as much memory as it can because it's faster to access the RAM than the storage. The boot processes use RAM, and if there is enough RAM in the system, then the boot processes will just use that RAM in order to avoid swapping, hence helping the device boot faster. The amount of 'free' RAM you see after system boot is just the RAM that was not used by the boot processes; the 'used' RAM is not necessarily being used by active processes. It looks used, but it's in fact free to take.
Whenever an app needs memory, the OS loads it up in RAM until there is no more RAM available, in which case the OS will just clear some unused memory to make room for the new app. This is more efficient than cleaning memory as soon as you leave an app, because then if you reopen an app you closed a while back, you don't need to load all the data in memory, it's already there.
Basically, unless you run a lot of processes or you have very little RAM, the RAM being full is a good thing in the Android world.

The RAM should get used in any Android device, with 3GB of ram, it seems like the phone is caching almost everything it can, it doesn't seem to affect usage as it kills non used apps and loads the ones you open if it reaches the limit.
This is perfectly normal, and how it should work.

Im suffering the same .. my Note II usually consumed 600-900MB but my Note 3 suffers 1.3-2GB smh. I'd be grateful if someone gave me a valid solution ^^
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Riccardo123 said:
Im suffering the same .. my Note II usually consumed 600-900MB but my Note 3 suffers 1.3-2GB smh. I'd be grateful if someone gave me a valid solution ^^
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I'd recommend reading the 2 posts above yours.

I am having launcher redraw issue. Could that be due to high ram usage?
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1.2GB after doing a lot of things, drops to 700MB if I clean using Taskmanager.

ShadowLea said:
1.2GB after doing a lot of things, drops to 700MB if I clean using Taskmanager.
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Wow haha
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Wow haha
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Yea, upon a reboot it only has 689MB in use. Even running 6 apps at the same time (Tapatalk, Firefox, Gmail, Outlook, Whatsapp, Oh!Edu Towns) it still sticks to about 1.28GB In Use.
All I did was clear out the bloatware as much as non-root allows, replaced Touchwiz(480MB usage) with Apex(68MB usage), turned off all sync and location services, and I don't use Facebook.

ShadowLea said:
Yea, upon a reboot it only has 689MB in use. Even running 6 apps at the same time (Tapatalk, Firefox, Gmail, Outlook, Whatsapp, Oh!Edu Towns) it still sticks to about 1.28GB In Use.
All I did was clear out the bloatware as much as non-root allows, replaced Touchwiz(480MB usage) with Apex(68MB usage), turned off all sync and location services, and I don't use Facebook.
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Im not going to root but idk how to clear bloatware .. I think FB eats lot of ram , smart ideas there though lolz
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2.66gb max?
... samsung screwed with us claiming the 3gb bs.
they loaded a bunch of **** that constantly loads. all their dumb software screwing with the consumer.
So they give more, and reserve almost half a gig or more on some devices.. the North American has a max of 2.38gb so reserved a lot more.
the note 2 had max 1.75 but less crap loading in the background

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habs101 said:
2.66gb max?
... samsung screwed with us claiming the 3gb bs.
they loaded a bunch of **** that constantly loads. all their dumb software screwing with the consumer.
So they give more, and reserve almost half a gig or more on some devices.. the North American has a max of 2.38gb so reserved a lot more.
the note 2 had max 1.75 but less crap loading in the background
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Even If they put 5gb, 4.77 will be full. Phone doesnt get slow, however I have launcher redraw issues.
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[Q] Opening task switcher takes very long (2-4 seconds) on 5.0 Lollipop SM-G900F

I flashed the polish Android 5.0 lollipop on my SM-G900F Galaxy S5. I have the latest xxxBNL9 update. When i hit the task switcher (left) button it takes very long to minimize the screen and open the task switcher. Typically it takes 2-3 seconds. When i do it repetitively it goes quicker. I've already set the "transition animation scale" to off (or 0.5x) in "developer options". Frequently closing all apps also doesn't help.
Please help me. I multitask a lot and this delay is very annoying.

Unfortunately... this is android's fault, it is also experienced by some Nexus Roms.

trettet said:
Unfortunately... this is android's fault, it is also experienced by some Nexus Roms.
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Well that surprises me. I thought it was the bulky touchwiz for sure. I guess there's nothinh to be done but wait for Google to fix it. Thank you for the information, could you provide a link for anyone else who has the same question?

pizzaman79 said:
Well that surprises me. I thought it was the bulky touchwiz for sure. I guess there's nothinh to be done but wait for Google to fix it. Thank you for the information, could you provide a link for anyone else who has the same question?
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I couldn't particularly find one on xda, but I've found lots of complaints on reddit..on Nexus and Android subs...just look it up..
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Agreed.
It was faster on 4.4.

There is a memory leak in 5.0 and even 5.0.1-2 that if you keep the phone on more than 2 days running the system eats up the RAM.
Was noted and linked to in the S5 firmware thread.

lynxblaine said:
There is a memory leak in 5.0 and even 5.0.1-2 that if you keep the phone on more than 2 days running the system eats up the RAM.
Was noted and linked to in the S5 firmware thread.
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Touchwiz is a bit of a memory leak on itself, but i think the memory leak doesn't just affect nexus phones, but also the Galaxy S5. When i look in my memory manager, with only a few small open apps (totalling less than 200mb) my memory is almost full, 1.4 /1.67gb used.
I don't know if that's the actual cause of the delay on opening the memory manager. It might well be, because with more memory it can keep the task switcher open/active longer. The times when there is a delay are probably when the task switcher app was closed because of low memory. When you open it several times, it goes much faster.
Note: I cleared my cache partition after a failed root attempt and reflashed the stock rom (without doing a factory reset). That helped a bit. It went from 2-4 seconds to 1-3 seconds to open the task switcher. It helped, but it's not a permanent fix.

The only temporary workaround as of yet is to reboot the phone regularly, like every 2 days.

2gb is really not enough for this phone... that's why we are seing a lag free note 3 touchwiz rom because it has 3 gb of ram.
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What you talking is nonsense. If 2 are gigabytes of RAM too little why are then 200 to 300 megabytes always free? If you have more than that it is useless. Why would anyone want to have a lot of RAM just sitting there and does nothing. Eats more battery, literally taking space in phone but does nothing.
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What you talking is nonsense. If 2 are gigabytes of RAM too little why are then 200 to 300 megabytes always free? If you have more than that it is useless. Why would anyone want to have a lot of RAM just sitting there and does nothing. Eats more battery, literally taking space in phone but does nothing.
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Having 200-300 MB of ram means yoh have too much crap running, i have 600ish free right now, and as far as i know having more ram would not affect battery life, nlt sure where you got that from.
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Rakuu said:
Having 200-300 MB of ram means yoh have too much crap running, i have 600ish free right now, and as far as i know having more ram would not affect battery life, nlt sure where you got that from.
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Of course it affects battery life because phone could have less RAM in total (physically less) which needs less juice. Less RAM needs less physical space and battery can be bigger. So again, if you have a lot free RAM just sitting there, it does nothing and I don`t know which smart ass even started comparing ROM optimization and free RAM.

AlwaysAndroid said:
Of course it affects battery life because phone could have less RAM in total (physically less) which needs less juice. Less RAM needs less physical space and battery can be bigger. So again, if you have a lot free RAM just sitting there, it does nothing and I don`t know which smart ass even started comparing ROM optimization and free RAM.
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Other than having less size for the battery(which is is untrue, you could just have one larger sized ram stick) having more ram does not lead to less battery life. Like i said before where did you hear that? Googling that only brings up the contrary so im confused where you got that information.
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Sending 15 photos via fb messenger causes crash because it needs more ram.
Free ram isn't FREE RAM, it's cached memory, it is still being used but if an needs more it will free it and the cached process will be moved to swap or forced close...and yeah have fun sending a support or bug report to facebook, because they're not fixing it.
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[Q] Why is my S5 sluggish?

I got my S5 nearly a week ago now and I am not overly impressed. When I signed into my Google account it never auto installed my apps and I still haven't got around to it so only minimum apps installed, I have installed Clean Master and its constantly reporting slowness and to boost etc. Put it this way when I press the home button the home screen redraws most of the time, I had similar issues on my old Moto G, ram usage was nearly always full and its the same with the S5. Every thing seems slower than my Moto G which ran stock android, the camera esperically is slow.
Any ideas? I put it down to TW

My phone doesn't act like that, I don't use any apps like clean master either. Since you don't have all of your apps reinstalled do a factory reset. Maybe you have a lemon, maybe just glitches.

Get that clean master garbage off your phone, will do more harm than good.
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Yeah Cleanmaster is garbage. I use CCleaner on mine and my S5 runs smooth. Also what ever you do, don't use Advanced Task Killer.

damon7620 said:
Yeah Cleanmaster is garbage. I use CCleaner on mine and my S5 runs smooth. Also what ever you do, don't use Advanced Task Killer.
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Any of those cleaners are pretty wothless honestly, they are comparable to the mycleanpc crap.
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Agreed

Got to admit the GS5 is pretty poor when it comes to RAM usage. Mine is generally idling at about 1.10 GB and i don't have alot of apps installed as i only started using it this week. My GS3LTE was usually idling at around 800MB.

Your comparing phones separated by years and completely different hardware and functionality. Why would you expect them to be remotely the same as far as RAM usage?

I uninstalled Clean master and installed Nova, yes it has helped, I don't know I think I expected this phone to be blazing fast and its not, I think that might just be Android though.

slugger09 said:
I uninstalled Clean master and installed Nova, yes it has helped, I don't know I think I expected this phone to be blazing fast and its not, I think that might just be Android though.
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My phone is blazing fast :/ stock android with nova launcher, bunch of applications. Try a factory reset.

metalfan78 said:
Your comparing phones separated by years and completely different hardware and functionality. Why would you expect them to be remotely the same as far as RAM usage?
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I don't expect them to be similar, my point was surely RAM usage should get better with progress not worse., especially when the S5 mentioned is basically still stock and the G3 was two years old, and thus filled with apps that were using said RAM. Surly background usage shouldn't be so high straight out the box.

I understand what you are saying, but the s5 has more ram so Samsung was able to add more bloat and Samsung apps. The only way to reduce ram usage is to debloat your phone.

metalfan78 said:
I understand what you are saying, but the s5 has more ram so Samsung was able to add more bloat and Samsung apps. The only way to reduce ram usage is to debloat your phone.
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Nah my GS3 was the LTE version which had the same amount of RAM as the S5, ie 2GB.
Been considering removing all the bloatware, took a few of the service provider apps off and a couple of Google apps so far, but it's something I have to look into more before I get a bit too delete happy with it. Need to find a thread with a decent guide to what you can and can't delete. Don't want to brick my brand new phone.
Even with Bloatware though, it really shouldn't be a high as it is, when, like i said, my GS3 was idling at 200MB less and was loaded with apps.

There is a list here somewhere of apk's that are safe to remove. There are quite a few apps that the s3 didn't have that run in the background.

metalfan78 said:
There is a list here somewhere of apk's that are safe to remove. There are quite a few apps that the s3 didn't have that run in the background.
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I have a list of things like Amazon, Amazon music, Pinterest, that I don't use but I can't uninstall without root and they are running in the background.

I am not having this issue, even when i was on stock it didn't seem bad(to me at least), i am on a rom and I have greenify and this that and the other, and i can idle with almost 600 or 800 free.
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