Equivalent To Active Desktop? - Windows 10, 8, 7, XP etc.

I had previously asked about making an active tile, but I fear I may have been throwing out what I thought would be a 'simple' solution instead of asking for what I really wanted. I am looking to have something that allows my users to see this content - http://orsl.montana.edu/weather/ORSLweather.php - easily. This page is basically a small image that updates every five minutes with a new image showing the current weather from a weather station at a university.
Turning on the way back machine I was able to accomplish this using Active Desktop in Windows XP and Vista. With Windows 7 I wrote some code to make a Windows Gadget and even used an add-on to re-enable gadgets in Windows 8. I had hoped making an active Windows Tile for the Start Menu would be fairly easy, but it turns out that is not the case.
I am open to a solution that allows this content to be on the Desktop or Start Menu and regularly update. Any thoughts?

Perfect gadget Weather desktop like in Windows 7? It can be installed.
You can try Rainmeter: http://rainmeter.net/ or XWidget : http://www.xwidget.com/xwidget/

maxaon09 said:
Perfect gadget Weather desktop like in Windows 7? It can be installed.
You can try Rainmeter: http://rainmeter.net/ or XWidget : http://www.xwidget.com/xwidget/
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I appreciate the thought, but the goal is not to just have some weather widget/gadget. I am looking to have the exact weather image detailed in the OP update regularly. This weather data is from a specific weather station and a new image is created every five minutes with the latest weather info. Having it appear on the Start menu or Desktop is what we need

cleonti said:
I appreciate the thought, but the goal is not to just have some weather widget/gadget. I am looking to have the exact weather image detailed in the OP update regularly. This weather data is from a specific weather station and a new image is created every five minutes with the latest weather info. Having it appear on the Start menu or Desktop is what we need
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well, rainmeter lets you also create these widgets, with a fairly simple script language. you could easily fetch said photo every five minutes. :good:

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Wisbar Advance Deskyop HELP

Hu everyone,
i have installaed the latest wisbar Advance Desktop on a Tytn couse I love some desktop skin i've seen on the net.
But i'm totally new in this program so I don't know to make the skin.
I'd like to download packed just all done.... i would like to copy on the device and all is just done.
can someone help me in where to find this packages, how to install, where to copy and what operations i have to do to make it work?
thanks
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php
gerazzo said:
Hu everyone,
i have installaed the latest wisbar Advance Desktop on a Tytn couse I love some desktop skin i've seen on the net.
But i'm totally new in this program so I don't know to make the skin.
I'd like to download packed just all done.... i would like to copy on the device and all is just done.
can someone help me in where to find this packages, how to install, where to copy and what operations i have to do to make it work?
thanks
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Gerazzo
Darky has given you a good link. Like me you're new to WAD and I found the following guide to WAD very useful in getting started.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/downloads/wad.doc
Mike
Thanks for the link... it's very usefull. i will start to learn how to make my own skin but....
in the meanwhile i'd like to use some skin found on the forum.
i have downloaded it (for example Vistabetatwo). unpacked and copied in the
SD, set in wisbar the directory and in the theme page i can find it.
selected, but the only things changed are the upper and bottom bar.... and where are all the object on the desktop? the link? the meter?
in the preview image there so many things....
where am I making mistakes?
Thnaks
some might be from other programs like spb pocketplus /spb diary / pocket pc phone alarm ..etc, also to customize what's on your today screen go to star/settings/today/items and choose them from there
WAD is for advanced users ...
WAD
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WAD is for advanced users ...
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Not sure I agree with you. Yes it is a bit finicky to work out and it does help to know your way around basic directories and file structures but from knowing nothing about it two days ago I now have 5 today screens all looking different all with different plug ins and buttons set up to move from one page to another. Where I do agree is, that this is a Hermes board and not a general one and perhaps we don't want to clog it up with non hermes specific issues? There is plenty of help\ on other sites for WAD as shown in above posts.
I would say in relation to hermes that WAD is very useful due to its provision of multiple Today screens as hermes has a relatively small screen to fit all those lovely plugins. Also I was concerned it would really slow up my TyTn with all these pages and plugins but actually having the plugins on seperate pages rather than all on one has speeded up the device! I think the real advanced users like vijay for example probably write their own code/programmes for this sort of thing.
My advice with all these things is give it a try and see where you get to, just back-up what you can before starting and go for it - that's the joy of having the hermes in the first place - unless you're a business user in which case don't tell the boss!!
Mike
Mike
I see your pints of view...
but i'm wondering about some packages like themes that can be installed easly like executing an .exe
and all is set automaticaly.
Thnkas
WAD
gerazzo said:
I see your pints of view...
but i'm wondering about some packages like themes that can be installed easly like executing an .exe
and all is set automaticaly.
Thnkas
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The point of Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Advance Desktop is that you can set them up and customise them and so you have to hunt down a nice theme download it / unzip and place it on your device in suitable directories. These do not in my experience come in nice exe or cab files but are files you put directly into the folders WA and WAD looks for it's themes. The following link has the popular Windows vista theme:
http://www.sbsh.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11182
Download the qvga skin package. (can download the icons and wallpapers as well for later use.)
When you unzip there will be a lot of folders the most essential ones to put in your Wisbar Themes folder on your device are the ones named Windows Vista WA2, Windows Vista WAD, and Windows Vista Media Player.
The themes folder is likely to be on device or storage card in programme files>lakeridge>wisbar advance>Themes. Drop the files in there. Go to WA settings>my theme page and hopefully the theme will show up for you to select, If not you need to go to WA >settings>programme directories and tell it where to find the new files.
Sadly no programme that just does it all for you and as darky pointed out some of the fancy stuff on today screens posted in the forums:darkysome might be from other programs like spb pocketplus /spb diary / pocket pc phone alarm ..etc, also to customize what's on your today screen go to star/settings/today/items and choose them from there
So the look is coming from many different features all running together.
Cheers
Mike
Thnaks very much for you istrucions.
i've just done all the things you say. The upper bar is modified and the desktop come out but with no item on it.
HOW i can install desktop Themes?
Mmmmm..
gerazzo said:
Thnaks very much for you istrucions.
i've just done all the things you say. The upper bar is modified and the desktop come out but with no item on it.
HOW i can install desktop Themes?
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This may take some time to explain. (a good general guide is the WAD.Doc link shown earlier).
1. Be sure Advance Desktop is active - go to windows symbol and give it a long press. This brings up a menu. Select Settings. Click arrow beside My Theme, this brings up another menu select plugins at the bottom, an item "Desktop" should appear and be ticked. (If not Wisbar Advance Desktop is not installed properly).
2. Get back to Desktop. Long Press on a free area on the desktop and a menu should appear. Select "new" (we'll add a RAM Meter) so select "meter". A screen appears, use drop down box at top of screen and select "Memory RAM". Leave storage set to "My Device".
3. In the Path to image box you must enter the path to an image. (If you downloaded the Icons file along with the vista theme and saved them on your device/storage card then use gray box on right to find your way tothe folder and select a nice icon. If you did not put the icons folder on your device then just use the gray box followed by down arrow top right to go to the My Device> "Windows" folder. A lot of icons should then appear. Pick one - (doesn't matter which one it's just so you see how it works), and click ok. Pressing ok again takes you back to desktop and your meter should be there. You can drag it to a suitable place.
It's very much the same procedure for adding new shortcuts other meters, new desktop pages etc. With practice you can change to new wallpapers font sizes etc etc.
Enough for now.
Mike
I know hot to build virtual pages, dock, and meter... but i'm not looking for guides to build my own theme but i'd like to download theme just done!
so i have only to copy files into the device; the wa2 folder and the wad folder,
but i need that in the wad folder there is the skin file that i can load throught ther theme manager
thanks

iTask Animated 0.92.5 29.feb -RELEASED!!

Release 0.92.5 of iTask:
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Please don't get upset if I change something on each release, or that it is hard to modify. I know all this, and it is in everyones interest to make iTask work smoothly in every way, before making a good settingsprogram. If not, the settingsprogram would need changes every time I modified something in iTask, and that would slow down the whole development progress.
This is a development-in- progress app. This means you can use the beta, before the final release, and I get some feedback on bugs. Thankfully some in the community has taken a keen interest in sharing feedback, and therefor iTask Betas are still coming pretty often.
I know it's hard for some people to edit the input.txt and I hope someone with programming knowledge will be up for the task of creating a settingsprogram for iTask when I come to 1.0. I do not know much programming, only Flash.
Thanks, Rhov23
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Place folder at "root of your device"
Image of where the root is, and where to place folder:
ROOT
VIDEO OF ITASK 0.91
-You need to install Flash lite 2.1 player
-Itask.zip is the old version. itask_0_92.zip is the next and itask_0_92_5.zip is the newest.
-WHEN YOU OPEN iTask for the first time, or after a soft reset, or if unread sms or contactlist is not working, run SERVER.EXE.
Server.exe runs invicible in the background.
OPEN WITH ITASK.SWF
A GOOD TIP FOR EDITING: If you have a copy of the itask-folder on your computer, you can use flash player in Windows to play it there as well, for quick reference when you add images or text. Instead of dpad button, press enter
Newest 0.92.5
-Added many variables to input.txt so non-english can modify more.
-Added some variables to new background images, so you can for example change the background of the Minical or contacts
-Made contactapp a bit prettier, and you can now click on phone to make a call, or email to email a contact (if you have email for that contact).
-Teleprovider name
-Name of wifirouter
-Name of bluetooth connection
- Username
-Small fixes
Done 0.92:
-Unread sms
-Unanswered calls
-Unread email
-Buttons can now be gif/jpg/swf/png(with transparency)
-20 more app buttons ( open apps, slide to right)
-Slide to unlock has been changed to be a execute link instead, so now you can use a better screenlocker
-Changeable background for news and settings.
-You can use gif/jpg/png/swf for background-image as well
-Write has been moved to iProgs, so now mainbutton1 is open for external app.
-Rubik's cube game
-Soccer tricks game
-Sokoban game.
-Tetris look upgraded.
-Contacts app Alpha version.
-Many small fixes
-Volume and network or other system info not fixed yet.
Done 0.91:
-Rewritten from flash 7 to Flash lite (Painstaking!)
-New news reader (looks the same, but all new because of flash lite limitations on the old one.) It's faster, you can add as many feeds as you want. Use right/left hardbutton to change feeds. Also added browser link for reading the whole article.
-New calendar (because the old one didn't work in flash lite)
-Rewrote parts of weather. (because the old one didn't work in flash lite)
-New drawing app. Much smoother, more functions.
-New timer. (because the old one didn't work in flash lite)
-New snake game
-New bubblebreaker game
-New solitaire! (this took an awful long time to make)
-Added 4 search functions to write
-Added urls.txt: rss feeds addresses should be put here
-New loadani.exe: Screenshot app. Takes screenshots of all your apps and saves them as the appropriate loadani. Start the exe and see what I mean.
-Many small fixes
To do (in the near future)
- Your ideas (not to complex, please)
MODIFYING:
-Input.txt is where you do all text/execute modification.
All buttonimages are adressed in this file by numbers from 1-X, from the top left to the bottom right. Same with text, executelinks etc.
-Buttons should be 40x40 pixels.
Background images: 240x320 pixels.
-All jpg files MUST be NON-PROGRESSIVE. Keep the file sizes low.
Hope you like it!
This is a developing in progress app. I need feedback!
Please DONATE what you think this app is worth for you, if you like it of course
Downloading...
Edit: this is really nice! it is from my first tests very stable, not found any bugs at all yet.
maybe now you could try and make the frame rate per second higher, so that the animations would go smoother,
i am no programmer and i dont know if thats possible with mortscript..
keep it up! o and the spider walking down the keyboard is funny!! haha
PS: Thanks
Its a very nice looking interfece, but i agree that it needs a larger frame rate, so the animation is smoother. Starts instantly though. Ive got a problem in that it launches calculator no matter what icon i press. And, before it launches calculator, it says please post a screenshot of the application you use here or something similar.
Looks very promising, I'll try it soon...
Any chance of some screen shots guys?
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Any chance of some screen shots guys?
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check the other itask threat, there you have a whole video on youtube
Any first thoughts?
check my first post
Can anyne download the mortscript, and flash Player 7 over here ?
bronson25 said:
Can anyne download the mortscript, and flash Player 7 over here ?
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http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&action=list&category=17
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/downloads/player.html
Very nice for a first release. Well done !
1) Still didn't check all options, but as tomazez stated, a better frame rate would be great. It's not as smooth as Pointui or other UI replacements.
2) I don't know what's the need for the page that opens after clicking on a program's button (the one we should replace with a jpg pic) I'd prefer getting immediately to the program/settings page.
Working on a Trinity WM6 Bepe 0.79.
rhov23 said:
http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&action=list&category=17
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/downloads/player.html
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hello, i have installed the itask.exe in the windows folder and the three folder in program files, but i have no image and icone .
why, thanks.
eldoume said:
hello, i have installed the itask.exe in the windows folder and the three folder in program files, but i have no image and icone .
why, thanks.
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Read first post thoroughly. It's to the root. Not the windows folder.
sorry but what is the root, i m french
thanks
rorydaredkign said:
Its a very nice looking interfece, but i agree that it needs a larger frame rate, so the animation is smoother. Starts instantly though. Ive got a problem in that it launches calculator no matter what icon i press. And, before it launches calculator, it says please post a screenshot of the application you use here or something similar.
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This is where your modification comes into play.
The image that comes before you launch calculator is to be replaced by you, with a screenshot of your program. If people will begin to share screenshots and icons, this will be a lot easier for all of us
Most links are defaulted to calculator, but in the input.txt file you can change the links to whatever you want.
eldoume said:
sorry but what is the root, i m french
thanks
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the root is like C:\ in "Windows XP/Vista"
rhov23 said:
the root is like C:\ in "Windows XP/Vista"
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i have tested to put the itask.exe into the root and application data.
not works.
for the three folder : windows/programfiles/itaskpics
?????
place all items in the folder which displays application data, my documents, program files, windows, etc.
also the main folder for " My Device "
eldoume said:
i have tested to put the itask.exe into the root and application data.
not works.
for the three folder : windows/programfiles/itaskpics
?????
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just put everything from itask into "\"
@rhov23
Beautifully done! With some work, this could blow FreeStylWM and PointUI Home out of the water! Provided that we all get the video driver needed by all HTC products using the MSM7200 chipset, do you think that this will improve on the speed with some DirectX code thrown in? I'm no Windows Mobile developer (yet) but I'd love to help with this wonderful project (even if it's MortScript modifications or beta testing!)

SPB Weather Aussie Weather Source

Hi All,
As requested, find attached weather sources for SPB weather.
There are two scripts below, one basic and one detailed. Instruction on how to use are in the the templates, so just open in notepad to view the 'how to'. I use the basic one, but have a play as you can go down to each states weather centres.
Weather is then sourced from www.weatherzone.com.au.
I take no credit for this script and a big thanks to recrem (from the now closed Mtekk forum) for updating a while back.
Enjoy,
Dev
Thanks for the good work. Good to see an Aussie Weather Source
Thanks again Dev,
Just downloading your weather files now (after trawling through whirlpool all morning looking for your post). I was happy using the one in SPB mobile shell until today... it forecasts 30 for today and it is much closer to 34... all the news channels were saying 34, so obviously they got their data from a more reliable source.
Works great with SPB Traveler, but has anyone made it work with the SPB panel's weather? It seems to take its data from Traveler when Traveler is installed, but if you select a custom city, the panel's weather screen just tells you that "No weather data has been downloaded".
bedlam_au said:
Works great with SPB Traveler, but has anyone made it work with the SPB panel's weather? It seems to take its data from Traveler when Traveler is installed, but if you select a custom city, the panel's weather screen just tells you that "No weather data has been downloaded".
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There is no need to create a custom city (unless it's not in the list).
There are full instructions in the template file (open with notepad).
It is working fine for me... apart from a few issues with weather icons not showing up from time to time.
buzz83 said:
There is no need to create a custom city (unless it's not in the list).
There are full instructions in the template file (open with notepad).
It is working fine for me... apart from a few issues with weather icons not showing up from time to time.
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As I said, it works fine in SPB Traveler. Where it doesn't work is with SPB's custom X1 panel. The weather icon on its "Today" screen is just a sun with N/A where the temp should be. Tapping on that icon, which normally shows the next 4 days, has a message along the lines of "The weather data hasn't been downloaded.
I'm assuming it's because those scripts produce temperatures and icons in a slightly different format. Traveler can handle it but the Panel can't. It'd need someone with a bit more script nerdery than me to reformat those scripts to something the Panel's weather routine can read.
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As I said, it works fine in SPB Traveler. Where it doesn't work is with SPB's custom X1 panel. The weather icon on its "Today" screen is just a sun with N/A where the temp should be. Tapping on that icon, which normally shows the next 4 days, has a message along the lines of "The weather data hasn't been downloaded.
I'm assuming it's because those scripts produce temperatures and icons in a slightly different format. Traveler can handle it but the Panel can't. It'd need someone with a bit more script nerdery than me to reformat those scripts to something the Panel's weather routine can read.
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Yes, only SPB weather can read the scripts to display the correct icons. So if you don't have SPB weather loaded, its no good as Shell Panel doesn't work with it.
Dev
Revised Detailed Script to fix missing codes
Hi all,
It would seems weatherzone.com.au have now stopped displaying the city code number in the URL address as per the instruction in the template.
So I have modified the template so you can now get it to work if you don't know your suburbs code.
Instructions are at the top of the file, so just open with notepad and you'll be off and running.
Enjoy.
Dev
thedeva said:
Hi all,
It would seems weatherzone.com.au have now stopped displaying the city code number in the URL address as per the instruction in the template.
So I have modified the template so you can now get it to work if you don't know your suburbs code.
Instructions are at the top of the file, so just open with notepad and you'll be off and running.
Enjoy.
Dev
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You have proved yourself yet again dev.
SPB Weather was giving me the #$%s on the weekend, but I was house hunting and didn't have time to play around with it.
Looks like you've done the job very nicely.
Thanks again
For reasons I can't begin to understand, it would seem the issues with SPB Traveler messing with the SPB Panel's weather are resolved by installing SPB Weather.
If I was being scientific about it, I'd see if it works in isolation without Traveler or if this new version of the script has anything to do with it. But I'm not.
So for now, the combination of Traveler + Weather + current script by TheDeva = correct weather now being displayed in the SPB Mobile Shell Panel. Some weather icons are N/A, but at least the temperature is correct and not 10 degrees out like it used to be. (What are these other websites using as the source of their information??)
Thankyou to 'thedeva' for the modified spb weather script... the programs now works and it gives the same forcasts that we get on ABC weather.. so that accuracy helps alot.
One thing I have noticed is that there is never an icon for the next days weather. e.g. today is tuesday, and there is no icon for wedneday's forcast. Tomorrow after I update, there will be no icon for the next day. I have Ballarat and Melbourne as the cities I watch, but neither will display the next day's icon using this template... when i go back to the default spb scripts all is good, just lousy weather forcasts...
I have looked at the script, but I can't see where the fault lies... any ideas please ?
David
Hi All,
I have read all the templates and comments and cannot get the weather to display correctly. I have mobile shell installed as well as SPB weather. The custom city of melbourne has been added with directions supplied by 'thedeva'. I get the dreaded N/A on the professional Now screen. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Dan.
SPB v1.7 with Melbourne?
Hi guys,
I have SPB 1.7 (which is more lightweight than the current) and am trying to get it to work with the script.
It doesn't say in the script which "City Code Type" to use but I've tried all 3 (user defined, ICAO and GisMeteo.ru) with no luck.
I've set Custom City with "vic/melbourne/melbourne".
I get a "Error downloading data from site". I'm pretty sure I have connectivity as I see the HSPDA connection go and if it's in the crade the sync marks go (and other apps update).
Can anyone assist?
Cheers,
Gavan
I believe SPB Wather older than version 2 are obsolete and don't have any support/sources for them.
Thanks Orlesi - can anyone else also confirm it won't work with v1.7? I've been deliberately running the older version for a smaller simpler lightweight forecaster.
glimjoon said:
Thanks Orlesi - can anyone else also confirm it won't work with v1.7? I've been deliberately running the older version for a smaller simpler lightweight forecaster.
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Yep.
The custom template is for 2.0 on only. It's still a little buggy though.
I've come late to this, so hopefully someone is still monitoring it. I installed the script and my forecast now comes from the BOM. The only part I didn't understand when reading through the script is how to get the Mobile Shell widget to display the weather. I simply get N/A. Is this by design and unavoidable, or is it possible to fix it?
More importantly, my current temperature seems to be wrong. It seems to still be getting that part from the 'Default Source', even though I've disabled that. It's 37 degrees here today right now, and Weatherzone agrees. But SPB Weather is showing only 31, which is the temperature the 'Default Source' thinks it is. Also, when I tap the current temperature, it says the 'location' is 'Adelaide Intl', which again is the location of the 'Default Source', not the Weatherzone source. So even though I've set Weatherzone as default, and all the long range forecasts seem to be using it and are correct per the BOM site, the current temperature seems to be sourcing from the standard SPB Weather 'Default Source' still, even though I've said 'Don't use this source' (and under sources, it shows as 'This source is not used'). Is there something I need to change in the script to get it to display the current weather from the weatherzone source?
Sorry if I've missed something obvious.
EDIT: Please forgive me, I realised that I had used the default city in SPB weather, which I think is why I was getting the Default Source data for the current temperature. I set up a custom city and it seems to not be be drawing from the default source now. Except now, there seems to be no current temperature. Well, the field is there, but it's actually only showing the forecasted maximum there, not the actual temperature. When I tap it, all I see are the forecasted maximums, no data for when the reading was taken. I'll keep looking but if anyone has any idea why this is happening, I'd appreciate your input. I see there is something written about exactly this behaviour in the script, but I can't work out if that's just saying 'that's how it is' or whether there is a way to fix it? Sorry for being such a noob!
Over the last few days or so, this weather template seems to have stopped working. I suspect that there have been modifications on the weatherzone.com.au website. If anybody has managed to fix the template, I would much appreciate it
_Robert_ said:
Over the last few days or so, this weather template seems to have stopped working. I suspect that there have been modifications on the weatherzone.com.au website. If anybody has managed to fix the template, I would much appreciate it
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Yep. I have found the same thing. Today is the last date for which data was downloaded and I guess that it was downloaded about 7 days ago. Without a fix I guess I will be forced to use a US source which will in fact render SPB Weather useless.
For the record I found that this one (http://www.pdagold.com/themes/detail.asp?t=16497) still works at least for Melbourne but it doesn't provide detailed weather the way the weatherzone one used to.

[SOLVED] Metro Tiles for NON-METRO applications? Edit: YES! :D

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Hi all!
My post should be in the developer page, but since I have less than 10 posts I'll post it here. Hope someone'll read it, I think it may be useful to everybody. BTW sorry for my poor english.
I am a user of Windows 8 from the developer preview, and I learned to appreciate the new Start Page and get used to.
The only thing that makes it still "just bearable" to me is the poor (more like nonexistent) non-metro applications customization. I understand that Windows wants developers to create Metro Apps, but their usability on a desktop PC does not fully not convince me; for some uses I prefer a thousand times to use the classic applications.
The question is: how to get the tiles to the classic desktop applications more pleasing than a monochromatic square with an icon?
I started to look far and wide on the Internet, finding not that much (really this does not affect anyone?), but I found something, something (even right in this site).
I've thought about three different ways of solving this problem. Since it's a little bit tl;dr i'll organize them under quotes.
1- An app that opens programs
- it is relatively easy to modify images of Metro Tiles for metro applications already installed, just follow this guide.
- For those who have knowledge of programming C + +, Javascript, or, generically, any language to Visual Basic, creating a tile for your application is extremely easy, so easy even I did it (I don't know programming, sadly). Still, nobody yet has thought to create standard desktop applications with these tiles, even Microsoft itself (Visual Studio RC hasn't got it!).
- I know that Metro Apps work a bit like the sandbox, but you can set the permissions to access images, documents and so on, so should not be impossible to make up a "double bounce" (metro app that opens a link in the Documents which opens the user desktop) without slowing down too the opening of the original program. I do not think is too complex, yet I can not do it alone.
- Also, an xda user found a way to bypass the sandbox and HERE someone (looks like the only one on the ENTIRE internet, apart from me) wondered about this problem and tried to solve this by itself.
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2- The icon, centered and bigger
- a simple and elegant solution: can't we just edit the registry to bring up the icon in the middle of the tiles and change as well as the size of it equal to the tile itself? Then we should just make bigger icons for programs large enough to not be pixelated.
I searched a bit in regedit on:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER \ Software \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ ImmersiveShell \ Grid
However, I found "only" how to enlarge or shrink the tile itself or the number of these files. There are a lot of other data but does not have competence to understand the setup.
Seems the easiest way.
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3- Copying from Google
As you surely know Google has launched the Google Chrome metro interface, with some special features:
- The program does not come from the Windows App Store, but can be downloaded from the Chromium Project site, therefore, is installed in the usual place of Chrome (User / AppData / Local) and not in the folder WindowsApps. This is quite unusual, because I thought it was the "exclusive" folder for metro applications;
- From my analysis I understood that the application that starts, both in desktop and Metro look, is always the same, "chrome.exe". To confirm this I noticed that, in fact, the folder "Metro" in "Google Chrome" folder contains only the userdata files and not specific ones for the program, which instead are contained by the classic Chrome folder;
- I'm pretty sure that all Google Chrome files are in this folder, since I found inside the "Manifest" and the images for the tiles. Trying to change the PNG and cleaning the cache also changed the tile in the Start bar.
- The first step, too simple for it to be working ( ) was to copy the manifest and the images folder in the folder of another program (obviously changing the directory on the manifest through Notepad), clearing the cache and restarting the PC. It did not work, of course.
- The next step was to open the folder "C: \ Users \ MYUSERPROFILE \ AppData \ Roaming \ Microsoft \ Windows \ Start Menu \ Programs" and try to understand more of nature of the link to Google Chrome...Only to find out that the link to Chrome was not there! ... Does anyone know where it is?
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And that's all. There is still nobody in the world that seems to manage a tweak for having tiles in non-metro applications, so if someone here manages to do this he'll be like the first in the ENTIRE WORLD
Hope this motivates you. I hope to read something from you developers!
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The user Argony-OT has found a solution to add metro tiles in the start page for common legacy application. Link to his thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899865
Otinademoniac said:
Hi all!
My post should be in the developer page, but since I have less than 10 posts I'll post it here. Hope someone'll read it, I think it may be useful to everybody. BTW sorry for my poor english.
I am a user of Windows 8 from the developer preview, and I learned to appreciate the new Start Page and get used to.
The only thing that makes it still "just bearable" to me is the poor (more like nonexistent) non-metro applications customization. I understand that Windows wants developers to create Metro Apps, but their usability on a desktop PC does not fully not convince me; for some uses I prefer a thousand times to use the classic applications.
The question is: how to get the tiles to the classic desktop applications more pleasing than a monochromatic square with an icon?
I started to look far and wide on the Internet, finding not that much (really this does not affect anyone?), but I found something, something (even right in this site).
I've thought about three different ways of solving this problem. Since it's a little bit tl;dr i'll organize them under quotes.
1- An app that opens programs
2- The icon, centered and bigger
3- Copying from Google
And that's all. There is still nobody in the world that seems to manage a tweak for having tiles in non-metro applications, so if someone here manages to do this he'll be like the first in the ENTIRE WORLD
Hope this motivates you. I hope to read something from you developers!
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I would think that Microsoft would give a way for Google to bypass the restriction on side-loading (for verified developers like Google or the like) if they requested (Of course, they could also have found a way to install Metro Applications without the developers license/enterprise requirement, etc.)
This is probably how it works since the Metro application is not in the usual Installation folder. It is something to wonder about though.
My god! Me and my friend are having this same problem with windows 8! We like the metro menu a lot, but we want to customize non metro program tiles!! We can make some pretty cool images for the tiles, but we just dont know how to change the tiles. I think ur on to something with Google chrome though! I hope some can figure this out! Ur not the only one who wants this!
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bb12489 said:
My god! Me and my friend are having this same problem with windows 8! We like the metro menu a lot, but we want to customize non metro program tiles!! We can make some pretty cool images for the tiles, but we just dont know how to change the tiles. I think ur on to something with Google chrome though! I hope some can figure this out! Ur not the only one who wants this!
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The problem is that I haven't got enough knowledge (not as much as my dedication to the cause ) to really do something with this...I am kinda searching for some help from XDA Developers
Same problem here
I'm also having the same problems on Windows 8. I'm also finding a way to change the default traditional app icons to the metro look, like what google do. Hmmmm.... Microsoft should add a feature to change default non-metro icons to non-metro tiles.
What's weird is that, as someone made me notice, if you make Google Chrome (the W8 version) the default browser for Metro instead of Internet Explorer, IE loses it's metro icon and become a normal Windows monocoloured tile. It's weird enough for making me think that the "copy Google" way is a bit harder than expected.
On the other hand, I've got a friend of mine searching in Windows 8 resources for a way to enlarge and center icons in Start Scren. Nowadays all the icons are big and detailed enough to fit inside a tile, and if they don't we can always make our own. I think that this is actually the easiest way.
Anyone have any clue that might help the cause? Also, since I still have less than 10 post, might someone link this thread in the Windows 8 hacking-developer forum?
Otinademoniac said:
What's weird is that, as someone made me notice, if you make Google Chrome (the W8 version) the default browser for Metro instead of Internet Explorer, IE loses it's metro icon and become a normal Windows monocoloured tile. It's weird enough for making me think that the "copy Google" way is a bit harder than expected.
On the other hand, I've got a friend of mine searching in Windows 8 resources for a way to enlarge and center icons in Start Scren. Nowadays all the icons are big and detailed enough to fit inside a tile, and if they don't we can always make our own. I think that this is actually the easiest way.
Anyone have any clue that might help the cause? Also, since I still have less than 10 post, might someone link this thread in the Windows 8 hacking-developer forum?
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Not sure what might cause it, but I know that it's a behavior that's been there since Developers Preview, after setting Chrome as the default browser it would go away, Even when I set the older chrome versions as default it would do it.
Still nothing...! This is quite frustrating, I'm searching really deeply a way to edit the METRO UI, but nothing yet found. Any help?
The way I think would be easier is to center and make bigger the Icon inside the Metro Tiles. I'm trying to use a Resource Editor in windows, but I haven't found anything yet.
Hi, I'm (obviously) new here.
I actually joined just to try and help figure this very issue out.
1. I actually noticed about an hour ago (when installing Firefox) the change that occurred with the Metro tile for IE, changing to a default tile. Your post made me chuckle, as I had literally just done that very thing. It was as if IE felt unloved. :laugh:
2. I am a designer. The ability to not change these tiles right now is killing me from the inside! I could easily set some color values or make my own icons in Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop and then make new metro-esque tiles the way I want for nearly all my apps in no time.
So, with all of that said... I too shall be looking into how we can manage making our own tiles for non-metro apps.
I wonder (and this is a cheap cheap fix) if one were to design an application icon for say, Firefox, and it would be the actual size & dimension of the pre-fixed metro square...would that icon fill the sqaure and at least give the appearance of being a metro app? It may, but I fear it might just down-size the icon entirely leaving us at square one.
All my design programs are on my OS X hard drives. Later I'll plug them back in, then re-boot my hackintosh and try to make a fill-in metro styled icon for testing purposes.
-TYPØ
Hi TYPOGRAPH1C, sadly changing the icon size won't work, nowadays almost every application icon for Windows have a resolution big enough to fit more than just the METRO tile; sadly, it's still not working.
Also, I've tried (withouth success) another experiment: In the "Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu" folder you can find the links for some of the METRO APP; those icons are from a DLL! I've tried to simply copy one of those in another folder and make a legacy program use it, but it didn't work. I guess is one way less to try
That is unfortunate. And, who knows this may be something we can't fully tackle until the full release of the OS. But, I do know that I went through yesterday and counted 30+ apps that I personally would like to make icons for. Mainly the general stuff I use, but a lot of them are things many people use as well. So between now and the finalized OS release, I should have them all done. And if worst case, we can never set the tiles ourselves... at least I'd rock some custom metro style icons on my taskbar.
But if we do get this working... I was actually thinking last night about this. If we were able to achieve the correct look for the tile icons, I suppose it would be 100% possible to have practically nothing living on the taskbar in Windows 8 (besides the current open desktop application). Everything could be bound to the Start Menu and grouped accordingly in theory.
-TYPØ
I am also looking for a solution. I really want all my programs to have the tile icon.
What i already did is make a white icon for some programs and then specify it as the icon.
Like this you have the icon in the tile (downsized ofc) but the tile itself isn't filled with a background color.
I looks better than the full colored icons from before but i still want the whole metro tile look.
Otinademoniac said:
Hi all!
3- Copying from Google
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You can read all about "metro enabled desktop browsers" when you get some free time. It's a cool idea, but unfortunately, you can only have one.
Could someone who knows how to make Tiles not make a custom tile app that can then handle custom image and file path, so we just update the details within the app so it points the the right place? So we could install the placeholder with the new set details and pop the icons are Larg and Small and offer booting the exe?
I have NO idea how to make tiles but I just thought maybe that could be a way?
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Could someone who knows how to make Tiles not make a custom tile app that can then handle custom image and file path, so we just update the details within the app so it points the the right place? So we could install the placeholder with the new set details and pop the icons are Larg and Small and offer booting the exe?
I have NO idea how to make tiles but I just thought maybe that could be a way?
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Windows Phone has custom tile apps...Wiztiles is one I use. A user can create custom tiles using pictures they have on their phone. These tiles can then be used to link to specific functions. The function I use it for is to point to websites. You can have it open many of the built in apps on WinPhone. It will open email and draft a new email for you with contact, subject and even the body of the mail drafted...all you have o do is hit send, or edit then send. Same with sms. It can be used to dial a contact or perform a search in the marketplace or Bing app. So it doesn't just open an app, it opens and performs an initial action in the app. Not sure how much of a leap it would be to have it point to 3rd party apps, but the basic idea is there.
The website the OP posted which was this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9527644/launching-a-desktop-application-with-a-metro-style-app actually does have a method on creating an app to launch a desktop app if anyone wants to try it. Me I'm not that great with code.
a tip for hex editors, just DUI hackers: twinui.dll UIFILES.
I think that it's possible, because you can open internet explorer desktop from internet explorer immersive
@Ka-la I've tried some time ago, but twinui.dll get corrupted... (Next time I will retry )
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I think that it's possible, because you can open internet explorer desktop from internet explorer immersive
@Ka-la I've tried some time ago, but twinui.dll get corrupted... (Next time I will retry )
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I managed to size content in my tiles in RTM pretty succesfully, not sure why you corrupt it. Im not using Windows 8 at the moment so I cannot really help. I remember there were templates for many variant of tiles (widewithpicture and smallwithpicture and so on). If there is one for that applies to desktop apps, it might be possible to apply a metro one to it
I'll give it a shot once im using Windows 8 but cant promise anything.
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