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[Q] Brief discussion regarding Paranoid Android 3.1 on the Nexus 7

I looked around for a Paranoid Android catch-all or general forum and I only seem to find the threads for specific devices.
Since I'm debating whether to install PA3.1 on my N7, I thought this should be a good place to start as any.
I apologize if this thread clutters the General discussion thread.
So after watching this video of how PA3 performs on the Nexus 10;
I was really eager to install PA on my Nexus 7. Then I saw this video
and decided I could really use the collective XDA knowledge to make a more informed decision.
so here's a battery of questions.I know how entitled if sounds, but I would really appreciate any input about these questions.
Full tablet UI. I don't like the Nexus 7 stock UI in landscape with the icons on the side. I would much rather have the icons on the bottom, like the Nexus10 UI has them. Will one of the PA3.1 UI's modes enable this?
I'll pass on pie. I know it's optional, which is good because I don't really think I'll be comfortable. Actually, I've seen some videos and everybody is using the notifications on the bottom. Is this optional? I would really like to have both pull down menus remain at the top.
How's the battery life? the threads seems to praise the m-kernel in general, but I'm curious about the franco kernel and if there's any benefit over the m-kernel while on PA3.1.
Actual performance. Nexus10 with PA3.0 is blazing fast. The pinch-zoom action in the video had me drooling. Then I saw the videos of the Nexus 7 and notice it's not as fast.I know we're talking about completely different hardware, but I wanted to get a consensus. Does going from stock ROM to PA3.1 on the Nexus 7 improve performance? Apps, battery, wifi, animation smoothness, etc.
Latest "stable" version. I see that the PA3.1 thread for N7 has the "Nightly" term in the title. I'm happy to help with the Q&A process, but I would like to know on which PA3.1 version I can fall back on (even 3.0, should that be the case). Any recommendations?
again, sorry for the handholding, but I appreciate any and all input.

Yes, the icons will remain on bottom if that is the ui you choose. It is indeed solod and fast using m-kernel. As far as franco kernel, that is something youll have to test. You can get a consensus, but different people use different options. Your experience may vary. The answer you will get repeatedly is "flash it and try it out", because that is the right answer. Nandroid in twrp or cwm, and load pa and test. Personally, I use multirom because i can test all the roms without losing my functional rom.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

Thanks.
Have you used PA? Can I put the menus at the top?
What about icon the app drawer app? Can that be repositioned to the bottom?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

Hi Mate,
PA on the Nexus is the only ROM I've used for the last 4/5 months? (Its consistantly AMAZING) I've used it since PA 2.54 and its consistently updated and improving.
I too don't use the Pie, I keep the Stock UI (but this isn't the option you want, I never you landscape see)
I've never tried Franco but I've used Faux and M-Kernel.
Whilst Faux and PA is THE BUTTERIEST combo I've ever tried, I got bored and wanted to try elsewhere.
So I tried M-Kernel, I can say the M-Kernel just doesn't have that uber (sorry for that couldn't think of another word haha) smooth feeling, Faux is a god at kernels.
HOWEVER - Faux used to drain 1.4% an hour on standby, M-Kernel uses only 0.7/0.8%. So make your choice, M-Kernel, for great battery and good smoothness, or Faux with GREAT smoothness but a little less easy on the battery. However both kernels and PA make the Nexus 7 into a completely new device.
Hope this helps

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1. Yeah you can use the tablet ui like the n10 one and you can have the icons to the bottom (you just need to customize)
2. For the battery life, the Franco kernel is the one praised for its battery life. You can check the kernel comparison thread (I know it's 4.2.1). So far on a 6-8 hours standby, I lose 1-3%. Performance wise : buttery smooth. (nuff said )
3. As for stable version, I think the 3.0 stable is the one from early February but the nightlies are working no problem (just need to flash the bluetooth fix but it's no big deal.)
Hope it helps.
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no..
I find that even though it looks nice... It's extremly slow for me

I'm finding the stock browser is unuseable on this rom after a few hours, constantly freezes. Anyone else getting this?
(I tried clearing cache and all browser data)

thanks to all for the comments.
I'm doing a NAND backup right now and proceeding to flash in a few minutes (man this backup takes forever).
I'll try M-kernel, since my top priority is battery life.
Quick follow re. kernels;
can I switch kernes on the fly, ie; can I keep them both on root system and then proceed to overwrite kernels between reboots?
I can't imagine a situation where I would need additional buttery smoothness on demand, but it's always nice to have the options.
Are there any precautions I should take in terms of kernel co-existence? ie, any GAPPS I should flash, version of roms that dont play nice?
@Pierre118;
thanks for the screencap, that's almost what my dream desktop; I want the N10 landscape view,
. the controls in the middle, the pulldown menus at the top. (again, no plans on using PIE, at least not until I actually get a chance to test it).
last but no least, I'm following the instructions and a few youtube videos; the file to download seems a bit light to me; only 157MB. Is this correct? Is this the only file I need (ROM) plus the GAPPS, which are another 147MB.? seems awfully small...

You can indeed flash kernels on the fly. Just wipe cache/dalvik. Yes, those are about right for file sizes. Bare minimum would be the ROM and gapps for whatever version of android. Then for kernel, its a good idea to flash ROM and gapps then do a boot before flashing a third party kernel.
The most current nightly of pa is really good and has Bluetooth working without a patch.
Edit: FYI you'll need an app like trickster mod to adjust kernel settings. If you go with mkernel start by setting up with metalice's recommended settings, good battery life and performance. Then adjust from there after you get comfortable.
Sent from my P.A.C. Man ONE S

Hobbes2099 said:
Quick follow re. kernels;
can I switch kernes on the fly, ie; can I keep them both on root system and then proceed to overwrite kernels between reboots?
I can't imagine a situation where I would need additional buttery smoothness on demand, but it's always nice to have the options.
last but no least, I'm following the instructions and a few youtube videos; the file to download seems a bit light to me; only 157MB. Is this correct? Is this the only file I need (ROM) plus the GAPPS, which are another 147MB.? seems awfully small...
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You can keep multiple kernels in the root folder, but I wouldn't recommend you changing kernels frequently. Find one you like and stick with it. Kernel performance improves with stability i.e., multiple charge cycles. Constantly changing kernels won't get you the best performance.
And stock ROMS are light. Compared to the Sense ROM I'm using on my One X (almost 500MB), you can see how heavy skinned versions of Android really are. And that's a trimmed down Sense ROM. Can you imagine how heavy the original skin was before it was trimmed??

Installed and loving it!!!
I'll try it out for a couple days before poking around the different kernels.
So I can't seem to find the way to get my screen to look like yours.
Do I need a launcher that will allow the app drawer at the bottom rather than the side?
I won't mind giving Nova Launcher or Apex another go.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Try phablet (700p on system ui)... Third party launchers are great though. I use apex and would never go back to stock now lol
Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel

I looked up the options, the screen cap I shared is my current screen at 600p.
I see these options:
Under workspace, there's only phone (360p), phablet (600p) and tablet (1000p); I'm assuming you meant 600p.
I tried using 1000p, but it sends the menus to the bottom, and the drawer remains on the side.
Back when I was Stock 4.2.2 ROM I used Apex + https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.fameit.rotateUltimate Rotation Tool.
One of the main reasons I wanted to try PA was to get the same layout without the extra software.
Is this possible?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I was able to replicate what you want using apex. Not sure if it can be done on stock launcher as I've been using apex since day one of owning my n7. It's not my normal layout so not set up right, hence why it looks odd, just showing that I did get it that way.
This is in phablet mode (some apps it's 700p, system is apparently 600, sorry )
Edit: I had to adjust launcher settings to do this, not just put it in phablet mode, again don't know much of the stock launcher, check its settings to see if you can adjust them to do this. I still will always suggest apex or Nova, stock launcher sucks
Sent from my Paranoid 3.1 Nexus7 running M-Kernel

Go with Nova Launcher Prime, I'd say.
As for Paranoid Android, I love it. I've been running it with the Faux Ultimate Kernel and it is insanely good.

I already owned Nova Launcher from a Google Play sale months before. I finally went with it and haven't looked back.
I'm really loving PA.
Regarding kernels, I understand now that kernels improve with use. Should I be rebooting frequently at the beginning?
Has anyone had the impression that the kernel is great and then not so much?
I almost got 12 hours of use (actual screen time) after the first few days. Now I'm getting between 8 and 10 hours at most.
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what's the default kernel that comes with PA 3.0?
I don't know much about kernels, but I'm eager to give m-kernel a try after I flash 3.15.
I wanted to know a bit more about kernel and thought I'd keep using this thread and keep the development PA thread as spam free as I can;
what is the default kernel I get when flashing PA 3.0 or 3.15? Is the kernel part of the ROM? is it ever with other ROMs?
how can I tell from system settings (or other system-reading apps) what kernel my N7 is currently using?

Hobbes2099 said:
I don't know much about kernels, but I'm eager to give m-kernel a try after I flash 3.15.
I wanted to know a bit more about kernel and thought I'd keep using this thread and keep the development PA thread as spam free as I can;
what is the default kernel I get when flashing PA 3.0 or 3.15? Is the kernel part of the ROM? is it ever with other ROMs?
how can I tell from system settings (or other system-reading apps) what kernel my N7 is currently using?
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Pa uses a stock aosp kernel I believe. You can see what kernel you have under system >about
Sent from my P.A.C. Man ONE S

Hobbes2099 said:
I don't know much about kernels, but I'm eager to give m-kernel a try after I flash 3.15.
I wanted to know a bit more about kernel and thought I'd keep using this thread and keep the development PA thread as spam free as I can;
what is the default kernel I get when flashing PA 3.0 or 3.15? Is the kernel part of the ROM? is it ever with other ROMs?
how can I tell from system settings (or other system-reading apps) what kernel my N7 is currently using?
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Some ROMs use default JB kernel, some use a tweaked version, and some include custom kernels from the beginning. Like My One X running ICJ uses NCX kernel by default. It will be mentioned in the OP/changelog if a ROM is using a custom kernel.
Two ways you can see the kernel currently on your device:
As mentioned above, go to settings > about and see under kernel version
Or if you are using Trickster Mod, it displays your kernel in the app as well.

Rom Review (Don't look if you don't want the truth)

This thread is here to discuss new and old ROMs and KERNELS....
To have a place to openly compare ROMs and KERNELS to find the best combinations to keep our aging devices young!...
(Remember to always thank your developer(s) and donate if you can)
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Rom Review Guide (Comparison Chart)
This is a guide of rom's I've tested.....
This is(are) the final update(s)..??
(Remember that this is based upon my own experience and may be biased)

Must haves
Here is a list of links to "must have" files for your phone or computer. It will include programs, kernels, mods and apks... I will try to keep it up to date and welcome suggestions on what to add..
-here- (this is a init. script that will automatically kill the media server saving battery, but not affecting your ability to use media)
-here- (Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit, for rooting/unlocking/flashing/fixing your phone)
-here- (flashing this will allow you to flash AOSP type kernels on CM roms)
-here- (flashing this will allow you to flash CM type kernels on AOSP roms)
-here- (this is an alternative radio for i9023 boosting some signal strength)
-here- (this .apk is for the latest flash player allowing you to use flash content on the web..)
-here- (this is an .apk for MI file explorer, it not only can check files on your phone, but also cloud providers!!)
Flash and install with care as I take no responsibility in the results of your use!!
Better Battery Life Tips :
Disable GPS, 3G, Wifi, Sync when not in use
Disable auto sync of Google and / or other accounts
Set brightness level to automatic or minimum
Disable auto rotation
Close / disable useless background apps
*Also try Greenify from the app store, for more free ram and battery saving*
**THIS IS NOT MY WORK, SO REMEMBER TO THANK THE DEVELOPERS**

YOUR REVIEWS ARE IMPORTANT TO US ! ! !​
This is an amazing community of NS die-hards that are constantly looking for the best ways to keep the phone alive.
We need your input on ROMS, KERNELS, APPS, MODS and TWEAKS that can help improve our phone. As well
as tips on what doesn't work or what not to do.
If you try a rom,kernel,app,mod,tweak, please give your experience with it.
START WITH IT'S NAME AND DEVELOPER (LINKS ARE ALSO WELCOMED)
1. Performance
2. Battery life
3. Bugs or other issues
4. Favorite feature(s)
5. How you had it set up (cpu speeds, ect..)
6. Feel free to add any other relevant information
7. Would you recommend it
And remember, that these are opinions, be curtious, use the thanks button and ALWAYS thank your developers.​

Okay, this is a bit of script that is a revised version of Killjoy using some input from Supremacy along with anything else shiny that I had to pick up..
-This cannot be used with any other tweak/mod of this nature
-This should only be flashed on a clean install of a rom (minus any mods/tweaks)
-This modifies your build.prop (any other mods may cause undesired effects)
-I suggest rebooting after installation and entering codes into the terminal emulator
-If coming from the original Killjoy or one of my versions, do an uninstall of previous version before installing
Use the Operation Killjoy thread to turn on/ off features as the rest of the modified script works without terminal commands..
THIS IS NOT MY WORK
DO NOT COMPLAIN TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS WITH ISSUES AS THIS IS A MODIFICATION OF THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN
DO NOT USE THIS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD (unless I get free cookies)
I do not take responsibility in any issues you or your phone have before or after flashing, nor for world hunger..
FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
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I thing is not good to compare rom ...because for me rasbeanjelly is the best..for other no

leap_ahead said:
I thing is not good to compare rom ...because for me rasbeanjelly is the best..for other no
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All rom's are great, but for different reasons.. I would hope that the comparison doesn't diminish from the developers work, but allow for a better idea of what a rom offers.

Which is the best DPI value in your opinion? Slim for example uses very low DPI value but it is still nice. What is the advantages and the disadvantages of using low DPI?
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NickName98 said:
Which is the best DPI value in your opinion? Slim for example uses very low DPI value but it is still nice. What is the advantages and the disadvantages of using low DPI?
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I use the stock 240 that most custom rom's use, other than issues with apps in the Playstore, I see no advantage nor disadvantage to dpi. It is helpful to lower it if you like having dual panels, but I like to be able to read the already small text on my screen and with my aging eyes there is no need to make it smaller..

Setting.Out said:
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Your (or anyone's) ROM review cannot be the absolute truth.
Truth #1: Custom ROM performance, stability, and overall smoothness are highly dependent on how a person prefers to use his particular device on a day-to-day basis.
Truth #2: The stability of a Custom ROM is entirely based on how a person uses the rom's features & system apps, and what kind of 3rd party apps s/he installs and uses the most. Apps found in the google playstore are mainly optimized for Official Android ROM's stability.
To further give users basis on how you do your rom reviews/guides:
1. What apps did you install and uninstall when you flashed the rom?
2. How old is your device?
3. What apps do you use most often? (including system apps)
4. What custom rom features do you use, and how often do you use them?
5. Why won't you use certain features, and what certain features causes instabilities and/or performance drops on certain ROM/s?
6. How long do you test the ROM before you make a conclusion with regards to its speed, smoothness, features, stability, and battery life?
You are not obliged to answer. This is your thread after all
ps. Mirage rom is created by des-franco. People might confuse this with franciscofranco.

ej8989 said:
Your (or anyone's) ROM review cannot be the absolute truth.
Truth #1: Custom ROM performance, stability, and overall smoothness are highly dependent on how a person prefers to use his particular device on a day-to-day basis.
Truth #2: The stability of a Custom ROM is entirely based on how a person uses the rom's features & system apps, and what kind of 3rd party apps s/he installs and uses the most. Apps found in the google playstore are mainly optimized for Official Android ROM's stability.
To further give users basis on how you do your rom reviews/guides:
1. What apps did you install and uninstall when you flashed the rom?
2. How old is your device?
3. What apps do you use most often? (including system apps)
4. What custom rom features do you use, and how often do you use them?
5. Why won't you use certain features, and what certain features causes instabilities and/or performance drops on certain ROM/s?
6. How long do you test the ROM before you make a conclusion with regards to its speed, smoothness, features, stability, and battery life?
You are not obliged to answer. This is your thread after all
ps. Mirage rom is created by des-franco. People might confuse this with franciscofranco.
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"YOU WANT THE TRUTH,.. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"... I may be too old for everyone to catch that reference..?
Phew, you made a list..
1. I let Google auto-update my rom(s) with my 100+ apps (too many to list)
2. My device is roughly 2 yrs old (but don't tell it how old it is, it's sensitive)
3. I use FB, Gmail, Yahoo, XDA, Youtube, ect... Some minor games and french lessons (as I should be practicing that instead of this... lol)
4. I use all of them to test, but I don't use most of them as daily drivers as I have no use in some of the features..
5. I think that certain features like Xposed framework and PA settings rob performance and are unstable.. I also don't like to run overclocked. Some rom's/ kernels can handle these features, but I find them pointless.
6. Two battery cycles.. The first is to install/test if it will be buggy, the other is to see how well it holds up to my normal day to day..
And I admit that my reviews are based on one phone (as all phones can vary) and personal usage that is subject to bias and change..

Can you please review 4.1.2 roms?

OnlySkills said:
Can you please review 4.1.2 roms?
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Any in particular?..

OnlySkills said:
Can you please review 4.1.2 roms?
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Feel free to share any experience you've had with a rom.. I, and others would like your input as well..

Setting.Out said:
Any in particular?..
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SlimBean 3.1, HellyBean, CM 10 (which you already have), and other popular ones. Particularly because I am trying to find a good 4.1.2 ROM that is smooth and has great battery life. Currently on Slimbean with marmite, and I'm not liking the battery life (Usually get around 20% screen time usage which is on for 1-1.5 hours only)
Edit: SlimBean 3.1 - it is PACKED with features, 10/10 on that (I have everything I could possibly want). Performance is really great too, little lag sometimes only. The only downside is the battery life as I stated above.

just to say that with my device and with my user experience on the roms you've tested: i agree with a lot of what you say in your rom guide!
nice work!

OnlySkills said:
SlimBean 3.1, HellyBean, CM 10 (which you already have), and other popular ones. Particularly because I am trying to find a good 4.1.2 ROM that is smooth and has great battery life. Currently on Slimbean with marmite, and I'm not liking the battery life (Usually get around 20% screen time usage which is on for 1-1.5 hours only)
Edit: SlimBean 3.1 - it is PACKED with features, 10/10 on that (I have everything I could possibly want). Performance is really great too, little lag sometimes only. The only downside is the battery life as I stated above.
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I ran Hellybean 4.1.2 for about two weeks and it was great, I did change kernels on it and increased battery life immensely.. Have you tried the newest Marmite with your Slim rom, it should be compatible and would help your battery life.. Also try Greenify and hibernate all your apps minus the launcher and greenify itself.. you will see an improvement.. I also would suggest to limit the apps that want to auto sync and shut down google maps unless you are using it..

Hey setting out, I'm pretty sure that rasbean jelly is 4.2.2 now. Rusty
Jay has been updating it recently

much needed thread
thank you very much OP
this is a much needed thread. i think all devices should have a thread like this.
its very useful to people new to a certain device and to those like me who dont have the time to test all roms available.
i have tested slim and thinkbridge extensively and gamerz, cm, xylon only for short time. settled with slim because it had best battery life in my device and was devoid of unnecessary stuff i wouldnt use.
i think you can expand your comparison to include some prominent/differentiating/special feature of each rom. it would be easier for the readers to get better idea about which rom would fit his/hers needs. for example, i like slim because,
1. i like the "dark slim"
2. it doesnt have all the wall papers or live wall papers that i wouldnt have used anyway, thus, freeing more memory.
thanks. keep up the good work.

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espanol/portugues/other languages here​
well as i ve been saying we have many roms 4.4.2 with similar features but at same time different..so questions for users are:
wich one is the best? --i cant say..its user choice for his needs.here you can see most features of each rom and choose.
what makes this/that rom unique? --see screenshots and video reviews.
wich bugs do they have? --report here some more or all you find.
wich one haves more free ram? --see screenshots.
and so on..
i have choosen this roms,so users can say what they think and report bugs (if any) besides cm11 bugs.HDMI,video recorder laggy,stock web browser super laggy.

ROM: CarbonRom KitKat
GOOD:navigation bar inside the rom fully working,no landscape for gaming.:good: super fast,great ram,battery life is very good,equalizer with many option.carbon wallpapers inside directly from server (wifi connection required) but great little feature.
BAD:no music player,no HALO feature.
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ROM: AOKP 4.4.2
GOOD:very fast,ROM control always nice with many options and immersive control.white theme AOKP for second option.good battery life.installation and boot super fast.
BAD:no equalizer,launcher options FC,then stays ok after a bit.
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ROM: Resurrection Remix KK
GOOD: amazing look, great performance, good sound, and no bugs..battery life is good.
BAD: video recording little zoom on 1 opening..image too big on screen without zoom..installed google camera and working well( limited with some bugs but not rom related!)
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ROM: BeanStalk 4.4.2
GOOD: super customizable, very stable and many user friendly options..amazing rom and my daily KK rom.
BAD:didnt find any.
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ROM: NeatROM AOSP
GOOD: WIP
BAD:
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ROM: C-rom KK
GOOD: many user friendly settings, super customizable, very nice battery and performance.
BAD: some issues with SMS on last build i ve tested.
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ROM: AICP 4.4.2
GOOD: many options on aroma, super fast..more stock cm11 like with a few options.
BAD: FC on keyboard (language changing to portuguese)
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ROM: SlimKat 4.4.2
GOOD: all slimkat options, super fast and amazing performance.
BAD: less options than slimsaber.
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ROM: SlimSaber 4.4.2
GOOD: all slimkat options, super fast and amazing performance and battery life very nice with little wakelocks.
BAD: need more features maybe.
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all my video reviews on youtube:

nice
nice review. i think i should upgrade to kitkat anyway :victory:

The Resurrection Remix has also evolved quite well. Do check it out too.

For a sammy rom
The last few days I've been using wizzedkat. Sammy rom from the S5 and I'm really happy with it. Straight stock and even includes samsung apps!
It's kind of retro and future all at the same time (Samsung stock and kitkat together).

_raVan_ said:
The Resurrection Remix has also evolved quite well. Do check it out too.
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i will do better reviews, this is only a preview of the roms cause its been done for xperia 2011 devices..i will update this with galaxy 2 kitkat roms and videos..im still greenie here from a long time on xperia line.
but is meant also for users participate and say from their own experiences and tests on roms.

smokerman said:
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I think you should be careful and state which variant the ROM is for. Hellkat isn't available for i9100 international AFAIK. Most people assume automatically that's what variant it is for by posting in GSII General, and may flash it on an i9100 based on that (stupid) assumption.

+1
that's true

smokerman said:
but is meant also for users participate and say from their own experiences and tests on roms.
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From my experience, RR 5.0.8 (with Dorimanx kernel) is doing quite well and is very stable. It offers tons of customizations.
Some of the issues I am facing are:
a) The display turns on with the caller identity 3 secs after the phone starts ringing.
b) Gallery and Music player not detecting pics and songs from the memory card.
Hopefully, these will be addressed in the next version.

Past: beanstalk
Coming from jb I found that this one had the best customizations ever. Most of the things worked superbly, and the performance and battery time were really high too. Faced 2 issues though -
1. Google keyboard didn't work. So used touchpal coz I really loved the ROM at that time.
2. When plugged on for charging, phone will go entirely crazy. Won't respond properly to touches, unlocks, notifications and esp swype will just die. The moment it's unplugged of the charger, it's back to normal.
The 2nd bug was quite an issue so I moved to pacman ROM. It didn't have halo but smoothness and customizations are on high here. Was quite happy with it but after few days of normal usage started showing the same phone-going-crazy-while-charging issue.
I have tested 2 kitkat ROMs so far. Wanted to know whether it's a kk bug or ROM bug?
And yeah, all the installations were completely clean.
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new roms added..WIP so all roms gonna be updated..im testing now some and newer versions released.:good:

Kitkat Rom #3/4:
SlimKat/SlimSaber -Found both of them very similar.
As the name suggests its really slim. Without any apps installed from my side the rom takes only 350 MB Ram which leaves a lot of room available.
1. Camera works fine.
2. So does the music player.
3. Low on customizations (compared to other ROMs) e.g. other KK roms have a lot of lock screen, navigation bar etc customizations which were not found here.
4. A very simple file explorer.
5. Simple, Neat & Elegant.
6. No inbuilt Screen recorder
7. No performance controls like other ROMs.
Though i found the same issue I had with my previous KK roms i.e. phone-going-crazy-and-laggy-while-charging so did not keep it for a long time. And hence wont be able to comment anything on battery stats.
I will still recommend it to the lite users but people who look for customizations and performance control features from ROM, will have to keep looking.
Also, I forgot to mention that on all the KK roms I have seen, gameplay was laggy. I dont play any heavy games, it was just temple run 2.
Kitkat Rom #5:
OMNI rom:
1. Quite smooth
2. Had a lot of customizations (more than slim roms and less than pacman/beanstalk/carbon etc)
3. Looked good and stable
4. Did not keep it for a long time so cant comment on battery life.
5. Had I seen it earlier I am sure I would be on it for a long time but I am accustomed to high customizations now so moving on.
6. Was a little higher on RAM usage (towards 500 Mb without any apps installed from my side)
Kitkat Rom #6:
Carbon ROM:
1. Beautiful & Sleek UI.
2. Carbon fibers i.e. really good customizations/options.
3. little higher on RAM usage (towards 500 Mb without any apps installed from my side)
4. Had to uninstall it in an hour itself as it became quite laggy and started giving me "unfortunately, **** has stopped working" messages for a lot of applications. Even whatsapp was force closing.
So all this charade, and I am back to Beanstalk (22/12/2013 build) now and I dont think I want to try more. Will have to live with laggy gameplay and response-issues-while-charging if I want KK i guess.

What about CM 11 ?

I think the CM11 Linaro/SaberMod Version by Markox89 is also worth a mention. It feels very stable and I have the feeling, that battery life (with the supplied kernel) is also better compared to the (un)official CM11 nightlies.

zedex39zeo said:
What about CM 11 ?
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I think the Cm 11 has a front camera issue.. Haven't used it myself, read it at a lot of places in Cm forums

hej
I use Beanstalk 4.4.2 rom and i am very satisfied

I use SlimKat and I find it very good!

Running on Slimsaber and a Dormianx Kernel is working fine for me
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ASRock86Cro said:
I use Beanstalk 4.4.2 rom and i am very satisfied
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Of all the roms I have tried so far, beanstalk was the best. I feel your happiness dude :laugh:
But due to few annoying bugs I had to start the journey of experiments all over again.

The "What is the Best or Favorite ROM/Kernel" Roll Up Thread

This is the "What is the Best or Favorite ROM or Kernel" Roll Up Thread.
It has been decided recently after much debate that creating comparison threads can have the potential to be useful and informative for the members of this website.
So in lieu of all the threads being created asking the questions, "What is the best rom? or "What is the best kernel?" for the OnePlus One device, this thread has been created.
All other threads with these same topics are allowed now as preferred by the owners of this website.
Thread Rules
1. No Flaming and no arguing. Everybody has a favorite.
2. No one is allowed to talk negatively about ROMs and/or developers or a development team. In other words, there will be no discussions about what you dislike about a certain ROM or developer.
3. No links to external sites. The ROMs must be linked on XDA.
4. No linking to non-GPL.
5. No profanity.
Please keep it clean and cordial.

My best wisdom on this subject is to always make backups, wipe clean, try new ROM, then rinse and repeat
This is the advice I would give anyone searching for the best custom ROMs xda has to offer. Having said that I'm very keen to slim ROMs on all my devices

[Q] ROM Recommendations?
So i just order my OPO a few days ago and have decided ill be rooting and getting at ak kernel but i cant figure out which rom to choose. So i'd like to here from everybody that has the different roms so i can make an informed decision. And as a reference for anybody making a recommendation i listed a few things that are important to me.
Currently leaning towards Color OS because of the camera.
Things Important to me in a rom:
1. Speed.
2. Touch Responsiveness since ive heard a few different things about CM11s with ghost touching and not beng able to keep up with fast typing.
3. Customizability. need a feature rich rom.
4. Stability. Would like a ROM that proven to not have too many bugs but its not a deal breaker if it does.
Thanks in advance.

Ok, I'll bite. While I don't believe any ROM is better than the other, I've been running crDroid for a few weeks now and when used in conjunction with the AK kernel I get excellent performance and battery life. It has all the features that I like in a custom ROM and is rock solid in terms of stability.
The very best and most accurate way for any person to find out which ROM is best for them though is to do testing of their own, everybody has their own taste and their own needs.
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Ok, I'll bite. While I don't believe any ROM is better than the other, I've been running crDroid for a few weeks now and when used in conjunction with the AK kernel I get excellent performance and battery life. It has all the features that I like in a custom ROM and is rock solid in terms of stability.
The very best and most accurate way for any person to find out which ROM is best for them though is to do testing of their own, everybody has their own taste and their own needs.
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In your opinion how are the customazations compared to other CM based roms and any issues with screen responsiveness?

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In your opinion how are the customazations compared to other CM based roms and any issues with screen responsiveness?
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The screen responsiveness is perfect, it contains all of the latest touchscreen drivers. The customisations are at the same level as any other ROM. It isn't really fair to compare though, that might be seen as commenting negatively about the other ROMs.
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i realy like the pac-rom on my opo...very customisable, nice look (bootanimation, ...), good batery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-pac-4-4-4-beta-1-0-t2811990
i'm on 09/22 nightly and no problem so far.

timmaaa said:
Ok, I'll bite. While I don't believe any ROM is better than the other, I've been running crDroid for a few weeks now and when used in conjunction with the AK kernel I get excellent performance and battery life. It has all the features that I like in a custom ROM and is rock solid in terms of stability.
The very best and most accurate way for any person to find out which ROM is best for them though is to do testing of their own, everybody has their own taste and their own needs.
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How long is your battery life?
I'm currently using Sabbermodded Slim with ak kernel. I haven't installed ukm or synapse to alter anything.
I am on my phone a lot throughout the day. On way to work I'm always using Google maps or navigon along with music etc. Always on the internet etc.
Do you use your phone a lot and get good battery life?

CM nightly as it gets updates/fixes fast. AK kernel to fix touchscreen and improve battery life. Sideload the DSP and Camera from CM11S if you want the 4K etc.

nathlynn22 said:
How long is your battery life?
I'm currently using Sabbermodded Slim with ak kernel. I haven't installed ukm or synapse to alter anything.
I am on my phone a lot throughout the day. On way to work I'm always using Google maps or navigon along with music etc. Always on the internet etc.
Do you use your phone a lot and get good battery life?
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Yep, I'm a heavy user and I get really good battery life. Here's an example.
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Yep, I'm a heavy user and I get really good battery life. Here's an example.
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Wow OK and that's with no adjustments to kernel.
I'll give mine a look later mine lasts no where near that long.

nathlynn22 said:
Wow OK and that's with no adjustments to kernel.
I'll give mine a look later mine lasts no where near that long.
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Nah no adjustments, my maximum frequency is still set to 2.5gHz, but I've lowered my minimum to 268mHz, I don't think that makes all that much difference though.
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Nah no adjustments, my maximum frequency is still set to 2.5gHz, but I've lowered my minimum to 268mHz, I don't think that makes all that much difference though.
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Fair enough so this is my rubbish 8 hours off charger lol.
Not bad as its usually always on I guess.

CM11S 33R with Franco r19
I was one of the users that reverted to CM11S 25R stock after having high battery drain on 33R stock. Took the chance yesterday and upgraded back to 33R but with the addition of the Franco r19 kernel. Excellent combination! No issues so far. Great responsiveness and battery life (6-10 mA idle).

I see a lot of you guys are picking your favorite ROM based on battery life.
I'm more concerned about smooth scrolling. I love Android, but the scrolling is hella jittery despite what the max frequency or governor is.
However, my favorite ROM is Slim Kat/SlimSaber on the stock kernel. And CM11S being runner-up. Also, stock kernels seem to be wayyyy more responsive/snappier than all aftermarket kernels.

All my other devices are running CM11 with the Hexa theme pack, so you can guess what my OnePlus One is running The only complaint I have about CM11s is that I don't have anything to tinker with except rooting :/ I almost wish CM11s had nightlies so I could flash something every now and then.
I guess I'll go wipe my cache partition just in case...

CafeKampuchia said:
All my other devices are running CM11 with the Hexa theme pack, so you can guess what my OnePlus One is running The only complaint I have about CM11s is that I don't have anything to tinker with except rooting :/ I almost wish CM11s had nightlies so I could flash something every now and then.
I guess I'll go wipe my cache partition just in case...
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Why not just run CM11 instead?
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I am very happy with Mahdi on my OPO. It has all the bells and whistles of full featured custom rooms and is rock solid. The combination of Mahdi with smooth scrolling mod, Franco kernel and vomer tweaks gives me a fast and responsive phone with excellent battery life...

timmaaa said:
Why not just run CM11 instead?
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The thought has crossed my mind. One of these days I'm sure I will.

Rooted this phone the day I got it (4 days ago). Been using LiquidSmooth since then and just now installed franco kernel, seems like ghost touches are gone? Hopefully an increment on battery life. Enjoying this right now!

UI Smoothness vs Battery Life, and 3rd Party Launchers

Hey guys and gals. I've been poking around the forums here and crpalmer's unofficial CM13 has caught my eye. Many of the users in the forum praise how buttery the ROM is. At the same time, many users lament how the stock ROM achieves better battery life. I wondering, perhaps the stock ROM's lag is a direct result of aggressive battery saving protocol (e.g. cpu/gpu throttling). What do you think? If this is true, Huawei should implement a battery management switch similar to Windows (Power saving, Balanced, high performance). I'd happily sacrifice battery life for a buttery UI when I can afford it, and vice versa.
Continuing that thought, I use Nova launcher on Stock ROM and I haven't been too offended by lag. The only minor issues I have is when using Google Now search (a noticeable delay opening) and the task switcher (delay in both opening the switcher and entering a selected app). Where do you guys lag on stock ROM and does changing the launcher help?
Cheers.

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Hey guys and gals. I've been poking around the forums here and crpalmer's unofficial CM13 has caught my eye. Many of the users in the forum praise how buttery the ROM is. At the same time, many users lament how the stock ROM achieves better battery life. I wondering, perhaps the stock ROM's lag is a direct result of aggressive battery saving protocol (e.g. cpu/gpu throttling). What do you think? If this is true, Huawei should implement a battery management switch similar to Windows (Power saving, Balanced, high performance). I'd happily sacrifice battery life for a buttery UI when I can afford it, and vice versa.
Continuing that thought, I use Nova launcher on Stock ROM and I haven't been too offended by lag. The only minor issues I have is when using Google Now search (a noticeable delay opening) and the task switcher (delay in both opening the switcher and entering a selected app). Where do you guys lag on stock ROM and does changing the launcher help?
Cheers.
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yes the Nova launcher helps, but the No-Swap script from @EarlyMon makes a Huge difference.

clsA said:
yes the Nova launcher helps, but the No-Swap script from @EarlyMon makes a Huge difference.
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You mean applying the now-swap script improves performance?

fazorni said:
You mean applying the now-swap script improves performance?
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yes the No-Swap is the key to a smooth 5X

I entered the arena a little late, but I've run almost all of the custom roms that will boot on my device. I'm currently running stock heavily modified and I'm very impressed with my $159.00 phone. I paid almost $600 for a developer model G1, but would never pay that much now, since then I've had some very good high end devices, and now the Honorable 5x, everyone I know has cast aside my device once I tell them how much I paid, sad world. My point being, the custom roms run great, but they take away the hidden treasures in this little beauty. Here's one.
PS: This is the first were I have to read how to's, I discovered by accident the the camera is a scanner, try scanning bar code or QR
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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JT-on said:
Hey guys and gals. I've been poking around the forums here and crpalmer's unofficial CM13 has caught my eye. Many of the users in the forum praise how buttery the ROM is. At the same time, many users lament how the stock ROM achieves better battery life. I wondering, perhaps the stock ROM's lag is a direct result of aggressive battery saving protocol (e.g. cpu/gpu throttling). What do you think? If this is true, Huawei should implement a battery management switch similar to Windows (Power saving, Balanced, high performance). I'd happily sacrifice battery life for a buttery UI when I can afford it, and vice versa.
Continuing that thought, I use Nova launcher on Stock ROM and I haven't been too offended by lag. The only minor issues I have is when using Google Now search (a noticeable delay opening) and the task switcher (delay in both opening the switcher and entering a selected app). Where do you guys lag on stock ROM and does changing the launcher help?
Cheers.
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blas4me said:
I entered the arena a little late, but I've run almost all of the custom roms that will boot on my device. I'm currently running stock heavily modified and I'm very impressed with my $159.00 phone. I paid almost $600 for a developer model G1, but would never pay that much now, since then I've had some very good high end devices, and now the Honorable 5x, everyone I know has cast aside my device once I tell them how much I paid, sad world. My point being, the custom roms run great, but they take away the hidden treasures in this little beauty. Here's one.
PS: This is the first device were I would suggest reading the how to's online. I discovered by accident that the camera is a scanner, just turn on light when scanning bar code or QR.
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@blas4me, what do you mean by heavily modified stock ROM? Are you talking about this ROM?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/development/rom-b140-debloated-t3335837
Well, I haven't used any of such debloated ROM, neither I disabled swap, but I feel that EMUI 3.1 is much laggy than EMUI 4.0. The UI is laggy, openings apps takes time n all. Plus I hate it because Huawei disabled OTG capabilities in it. (Best part is they didn't even know if it works, during beta test, we were told that phone hardware doesn't support OTG. We had to redirect them to XDA post where OTG capabilities can be enabled by flashing custom kernel; and then they believed it, but never enabled in EMUI 4.0 release.).
With EMUI 4.0, Huawei shipped issues like excessive RAM consumption, all CPU cores always online, which drains your battery and also heats up your phone. This is one of the reason I moved to CM13. Plus frankly I like stock Android. I used Huawei propriety EMUI for a while but didn't like it much. I feel lack of user friendliness at some places (just look at the default clock for example, you need to keep scrolling in order to set up the alarm. Other clock apps downloaded from Play store doesn't seem to ring alarm on time. Also with EMUI 4.0, try the swiping WhatsApp notification, I am quite sure you will hate it.).
If Huawei fixes the issues with EMUI 4.0, and put some sugar on top with OTG support, then I might give a try to EMUI 4.0 again for a while

Yes, @blas4me, care to share your list of modifications? I'd like the stability of stock with some performance improvements (even at the expense of battery)

Sure, first I calibrated my battery. A old habit, anyway just use phone until dead, then fully charging in off mode would be best, but you can charge powered on, then, power off when you get to 100%, until your notification light is green. From there install battery guru, put in learning mode and that's pretty much it on that side. The phone comes with power saving features, I'm using smart mode. I also have amplify installed, an xposed module, not sure if it's playing a part in power conservation. When I say heavily modified , about twenty or so xposed modules, some custom scripts running, changed density and some other haks, craks, and work arounds, that I won't mention, but I have shared or found within the community.
PS: I have nova launcher, and animations & transitions turned off in developer options, and in nova I set all animations & transitions to fast.
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I agree with the op. The stand-by time on this rom (3.0) is great. That and the fp scanner is what is keeping me on this rom. However I choose to change the animation from .5x to 1x and it feels more smooth. I also limit to 3 background apps. I do keep it on performance mode and have am still getting great power use! The no swap script makes noticeable difference. Like others stated the only lag really is in the app switcher and google search.
Great phone for the price. I sold my nexus 6 as is was getting to bulky to carry around and I am just not using it as much as before. Only thing I miss is the new look of notifications in the preview N.

blas4me -
Was installing Xposed easy? I've done it before on Motorola devices but was hesitant to try on the Honor until I hear from others.

Yeah, you need 86, not 85. Go to xposed repo.

Why would you calibrate your battery it has a min and max voltage, it cant be discalbirated. there is no file that resets its self so its get 'calibrated'.

Just a habit from a old HTC device, but thanks for the technical advice, I'm geeky like that.