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[Q] Fascinate Necessities?????

So I just got my Fascinate last week. I'm new to Android and I'm trying to get a grasp on what the popular/necessary apps, widgets, roots, launchers, etc. are...... So here is the question- What did you do straight away when you got your phone? And what do you wish you had done straight away?

Root, install de bloated rom of choice, install voodoo, profit
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Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.

iceman1183 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.
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A voice of reason in a sea of insanity.

BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
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TheBadBen said:
I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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Amen!!
I still pine for ListPro and Pocket Informant, tho.

lots of good information here. The only thing I would add is that you should probably steer clear of Voodoo for the time being. Yes, it does really speed things up however do to the fact that it changes the filesystem type of your /data partition it no longer allows you to perform full backups (Nandroid) of your phone unless you disable the Voodoo lag fix which has rendered several phones (including mine) unable to fully boot without restoring to stock.
Voodoo will NOT brick your phone but anyone considering using Voodoo should be prepared to lose all their data and know how to flash back to stock. If you are not willing / able to accept that risk I highly recommend avoiding Voodoo - at least for now.
Martian21

Market Issues 2.3.1 - Get your act together Google!

Well first, the new Market isn't on our Nexus S yet (officially), that's fine, it's just a UI update pretty much.
Now more seriously and more annoying, Google pushed out 2.3.1, that's great! BUT:
Whether you're rooted or not, there are missing apps on the Market because of 2.3.1
Some of the apps I use that I can no longer download from the Market are:
aFile, Fandango Movies, NYTimes for Android, PayPal, FiOS Mobile Remote
These are big apps, no reason they shouldn't be available.
I guess the issue is Google needs to input/enter/update their Market to "support" the new build of 2.3.1. ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS? You just pushed the damn thing and don't remember to update your Market with the new build??
GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER GOOGLE! This is frustrating!
EDIT: ALL Copy Protected Apps do NOT show up in the Market on Android 2.3.1
Please go here and STAR the issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13514
EDIT: 1/5/2011-IT'S FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1 i can confirm this

nxt said:
Well first, the new Market isn't on our Nexus S yet (officially), that's fine, it's just a UI update pretty much.
Now more seriously and more annoying, Google pushed out 2.3.1, that's great! BUT:
Whether you're rooted or not, there are missing apps on the Market because of 2.3.1
Some of the apps I use that I can no longer download from the Market are:
aFile, Fandango Movies, NYTimes for Android, PayPal, FiOS Mobile Remote
These are big apps, no reason they shouldn't be available.
I guess the issue is Google needs to input/enter/update their Market to "support" the new build of 2.3.1. ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS? You just pushed the damn thing and don't remember to update your Market with the new build??
GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER GOOGLE! This is frustrating!
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Have you tried editing your build.prop file to change the version fingerprint? I know this has been used in the past to restore "missing" apps to the market.

CALM DOWN
relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.

unremarked said:
Have you tried editing your build.prop file to change the version fingerprint? I know this has been used in the past to restore "missing" apps to the market.
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I think the point is it shouldnt need to be done that way

dudeimgeorge said:
relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
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LOL I know, I've had a Nexus One. But still, really, this is a really stupid "mistake" by them, how can you overlook something like this? Shouldn't they have some sort of checklist they need to do before pushing an update to hundreds/thousands of phones?

slowz3r said:
I think the point is it shouldnt need to be done that way
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Oh, I agree. Just trying to be helpful while we wait for Google to fix it lol. I've had to download the specific APKs and install them via AndExplorer for my missing apps.

dudeimgeorge said:
relax there, hot shot. you bought a pure android phone, early. You realize what that means is there will be glitches, patches, and rebuilds along the way. its happened before. the nexus one started off crappy with great potential and look at it now..its still top dog. so please be a professional with your purchase and know how to be a geek about it.
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Well, I disagree with your assessment in terms of the Market.
It's ridiculous that Google's flagship device with it's flagship version of the OS, sold to the masses through a big-box store like Best Buy should have something as basic as the build number not being recognized and excluding you from apps that should be available to you.
Such a small thing to take care of on their server end, yet overlooked. Just another one of those little things that a certain other mobile OS operator doesn't overlook that makes the rabid fanbois of it froth at the mouth and pant how much better their OS is.

Fed Up but glad others are in the same boat
I am glad that i came across your posts. I was about to throw the stupid phone out the window. I had to exchange my Nexus S today at Best Buy (still running 2.3). When i came out with my new phone, it prompted me to update to 2.3.1. I did the update and after I was done setting up my phone, I noticed that there are apps THAT I PAID FOR that are missing from the Market.
I am sorry, but whether this is a new phone, developer phone, I paid top dollar and I would expect that something as simple as ensuring that the apps that i PAID for our available seems pretty straightforward.
Until they straighten their stuff out, I am pulling my SIM and going back to MT4G.

Everyone calm down, they will show up in the coming days. The day that the Nexus S came out I couldn't find some apps, like NYT. But it showed up the next day or two.

Not too sure why people are complaining here. You bought a google development phone so you get updates long before other phones get them. Along with that, come issue, bugs, ...time waiting for 'others' to catch up.
By 'others' I mean, the people, companies, ect who release their apps. Surely google doesn't micromanage what apps work for what versions of Android. Or which ones show up on the market depending on your Android build, phone, or cell phone provider. My guess would be that is all in the app developers hands.
Either wait, or go about getting them on your phone another way. After all, you bought a google development phone, a pre-requisite for owning one should be wanting to tinker around with it. As said, you could probably get them to show up if you edit your prop-build. This happens at every new android build release....

confirmed...on 2.3.1 i lose slingplayer, thats a deal breaker for me. back to 2.3 for now

ogdobber said:
confirmed...on 2.3.1 i lose slingplayer, thats a deal breaker for me. back to 2.3 for now
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You didn't lose it, just get the .apk and install it manually.
Titanium Backup is really handy to have. You'll always have backups to all your apps for occasions like this.

I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S

zeeklancer said:
I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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you sir, need to sit in the corner on time out, just chill, your now the one over reacting

Luxferro said:
You didn't lose it, just get the .apk and install it manually.
Titanium Backup is really handy to have. You'll always have backups to all your apps for occasions like this.
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won't install manually... i refuse to use titanium (but that would probably work)
zeeklancer said:
I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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this thread is actually worthwhile. I agree that NS forum is flooded with useless questions that are asked over and over...but not here. go post your rant somewhere else

zeeklancer said:
I come here to get info on what's going on in the nexus world and all I find is stupid people *****ing about things they know nothing about.
Just because you paid some money does not mean you can act like a ignorant fool and *****.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Well you know what? Go ahead and update to 2.3.1 and you will have issues downloading apps from the Market, that was previously there. That's the point of this thread, and it's a valid one.
Yes you can go ahead and edit your build.prop, revert your rom, etc..etc.. but the FACT of the matter is, 2.3.1 DOES have Market issues.
I do have a right to ***** about this issue, because it's a simple issue for Google to fix and too stupid for them to overlook.
And for the other people saying "you bought a developer phone, you should expect issues and problems".. actually no, I don't expect that. It's sold to the general public through Best Buy at a retail location. I expect it to work properly. If suddenly tomorrow there's a 2.3.1 update and you can't make any phone calls, I can bet you all will be *****ing about it. And this Market issue is exactly the same.

I changed the fingerprint in the build.prop to show as it is the older 2.3.
I don't understand why Google is releasing an update before it allows it fully in the Market....
Attached is the build.prop i used.
It is from GRH78 only have the fingerprint of GRH55.
The ONLY line i changed in this build.prop is:
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3/GRH55/79397:user/release-keys
The GRH78 fingerprint is:
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/soju/crespo:2.3.1/GRH78/85442:user/release-keys
You cash push the attached build.prop into /system (make sure you keep the correct permissions), reboot the device and the market should be fine.
Once Google update the market you can change it back.

Also if you change your build.prop down to 2.3 you'll get notifications on a 2.3.1 firmware update <facepalm>

Just change the fingerprint in your build.prop, download your apps, and change it back. Either that or wait for the app developers to update their apps, there's nothing wrong with the market.

Have we obtained root? Can I help?

Do we need help getting root on this phone, or is everything the same as the international version? I have my phone in hand, if anyone needs system dumps or anything like that.

Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:

Root that $h!t and let us know how it goes. Also, see if the CWM Recovery for the international will work
Sent from my Atrix

I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.

designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Pm sent.
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designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Why not post?
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jumanji404 said:
Why not post?
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why would I post something without confirming it works?

designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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jumanji404 said:
I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.

jimbridgman said:
No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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Fair enough.. guess I wouldn't hold anyone responsible.. especially this early in the game..
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designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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DG - are you actually going to hang around here at XDA for a bit or are you just teasing us? :laugh:
This forum is going to need to experienced devs!

designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Designgears... I remember you since you quit working on moto matrix ...
Nice to see you here though. Good news for att guys.
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jdbeitz said:
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
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Send me the stock boot image please so I can root it.
Mark.

Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Eh, that's debateable. In the end it boils down to what you want to do with the device. For me? I want root so I can reinstall Cerberus to the System folder so even if someone wipes my phone, I can still track it. Can't do that without root.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )

drawde40599 said:
Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.

naturefreak85 said:
Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....

Baldilocks said:
Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Yea, this is actually the first AT&T Smartphone where I haven't cursed them out for the amount of bloatware installed. Granted I did immediately load Apex Launcher to tide me over until I can install CM9. I hate how touchwiz looks, but that's not AT&T, that's Samsung. This thing honestly speeds along, especially with websites. I'm also apparently in an LTE test area.....with a piss poor signal I was pulling about a 20mbit download and 13 mbit upload. I have to say, it's faster and more responsive than my GSII with CM9. That's impressive considering it is running TW.
Also from looking at his posts he did order it....so he could be using the GNex until he can. Though this pretty much is the GNex....just not running stock Android.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Are you forgetting Titanium Backup oh and some Juice Defender stuff needs root. Root is the only way to go.

[Q] Galaxy S4 Tweaks

Okay, so here's my question. The whole reason I went over to iPhone is because of all the tweaks. With a jailbroken iPhone you can download a tweak for Pandora for unlimited skips... and no ads... With a jailbroken iPhone you can download a tweak to push one button and kill all running programs.... Witha jailbroken iPhone you can download tweaks for Snapchat....Candy crush and TONS others!!! Its all right there for you in Cydia. So my question is..... If I get the Galaxy S4.... and I root it.... are there tweaks available for it like this?? And if so... where do I get them?
This is the mighty question!!!!!
Thanks
( I swear if I come back to android I'll start creating boot animations again )

SamJamz said:
Okay, so here's my question. The whole reason I went over to iPhone is because of all the tweaks. With a jailbroken iPhone you can download a tweak for Pandora for unlimited skips... and no ads... With a jailbroken iPhone you can download a tweak to push one button and kill all running programs.... Witha jailbroken iPhone you can download tweaks for Snapchat....Candy crush and TONS others!!! Its all right there for you in Cydia. So my question is..... If I get the Galaxy S4.... and I root it.... are there tweaks available for it like this?? And if so... where do I get them?
This is the mighty question!!!!!
Thanks
( I swear if I come back to android I'll start creating boot animations again )
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I don't think using Apple terminology in an Android forum a lot of people will help you... if you are thinking in change from ios to Android, you should change your mind chip. 95% of you-called Apple tweaks by jailbreaking you can do them in Android even without root, and if you root it, you will be able to do 200% amount of thing you would do in jailbroken ios.
Just ask us what you want to do in the appropriated sub forum and we will probably help you.
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jaswinky said:
I don't think using Apple terminology in an Android forum a lot of people will help you... if you are thinking in change from ios to Android, you should change your mind chip. 95% of you-called Apple tweaks by jailbreaking you can do them in Android even without root, and if you root it, you will be able to do 200% amount of thing you would do in jailbroken ios.
Just ask us what you want to do in the appropriated sub forum and we will probably help you.
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If you cant get past the reality that Apple and iPhone users have some useful tech out there as well.... well I'm just sorry. I understand the whole battle between Android and Apple well..... however, I've gotten to play on both side now for a while. With Apple... once you are jailbroken.... its very user friendly! Everything is right there in front of you.... put together in a little store called Cydia. They have little categories all set up for you... telling you what different tweaks will do..... you can download and install them with ease.... just like any other app. ( Now let me point out that I'm not defending Apple... so saying I like them better than Android, I'm simply telling you how they have their system set up!) So now I'll ask again, does android have something similar set up for their users? I like the Galaxy S4 and want to come back over.... but I want to know that I can set up my phone with all the same kinds of MODS!!! Is it possible or not?

I'm not aware of any such store. I guess what we're asking is what do you mean by "mods"? For example, what kind of an additional functionality do you gain by downloading a mod to an app on an iPhone?
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V3ct0rIL said:
I'm not aware of any such store. I guess what we're asking is what do you mean by "mods"? For example, what kind of an additional functionality do you gain by downloading a mod to an app on an iPhone?
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I'm glad you asked!!! OK, on an Jailbroken iPhone you can download and install a tweak for Pandora that will allow you to have unlimited skips! Also get rid of those annoying ads. Ok, there's another tweak you can download that allows you to push one button... and download any song you're listening to on Pandora right to your phone...FOR FREE! This is just two small examples of tweaks or Mods or whatever you want to call them for the Pandora app. Now on an iPhone.... there are literately hundreds if not thousands of different tweaks... make by all different developers out there, for all different types of apps! So I want to know.... are there people/developers that are creating the same kinds of Mods or tweaks for rooted Android phones? I've forgotten why its so great to root your phone in the first place! So after rooting you can change the OS.....Great...... big deal..... what else can be done? Do you get what I'm saying now???

SamJamz said:
I'm glad you asked!!! OK, on an Jailbroken iPhone you can download and install a tweak for Pandora that will allow you to have unlimited skips! Also get rid of those annoying ads. Ok, there's another tweak you can download that allows you to push one button... and download any song you're listening to on Pandora right to your phone...FOR FREE! This is just two small examples of tweaks or Mods or whatever you want to call them for the Pandora app. Now on an iPhone.... there are literately hundreds if not thousands of different tweaks... make by all different developers out there, for all different types of apps! So I want to know.... are there people/developers that are creating the same kinds of Mods or tweaks for rooted Android phones? I've forgotten why its so great to root your phone in the first place! So after rooting you can change the OS.....Great...... big deal..... what else can be done? Do you get what I'm saying now???
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I will insist on my argument... you should change your mind, they ar different systems, mainly Android is an completely open OS, rooted or not, while iOS is completely closed except jailbreaking, but even with jailbreak you will not able to do all things or "tweaks" as you call these things, as you can do in Android.
As V3ct0rIL said, our answer depends of what you exactly want... your desired tweaks in Android you can get by different ways in Android, depending of the intrussion grade of the "tweak". Some of them you can get in a unrooted device, most in google play, like custom launchers, you don't need to be root to use them, and they will change the interface completely, you can also "convert" your android interface in a iOS interface with some launcher apps in google play, and looking some of your tweaks in the web, using custom launcher you have Barrel, for example. You can also program icons or widgets on the desktop to do what you want using some no-root apps. You don't need airblue tweak in Android, it is a stock functionality, for iGotYa you have Cerberus App, etcetera... if you are root you will be the boss, you will be able to use root apps which will do everything you need like block ads, you can change (root or not) the kernel so that you can overclock the device, or change some tweaks or parameters in android (word "tweaks" is used in Android only for this), like unvolting, overclocking, negative image, led notifications prior S3, fast USB charging, etc... custom ROMS with your favorite "tweaks", etc...
As you can see, possibilities are infinite, so just ask or write what you want to do and we will give you how and where to find what you want...

jaswinky said:
I will insist on my argument... you should change your mind, they ar different systems, mainly Android is an completely open OS, rooted or not, while iOS is completely closed except jailbreaking, but even with jailbreak you will not able to do all things or "tweaks" as you call these things, as you can do in Android.
As V3ct0rIL said, our answer depends of what you exactly want... your desired tweaks in Android you can get by different ways in Android, depending of the intrussion grade of the "tweak". Some of them you can get in a unrooted device, most in google play, like custom launchers, you don't need to be root to use them, and they will change the interface completely, you can also "convert" your android interface in a iOS interface with some launcher apps in google play, and looking some of your tweaks in the web, using custom launcher you have Barrel, for example. You can also program icons or widgets on the desktop to do what you want using some no-root apps. You don't need airblue tweak in Android, it is a stock functionality, for iGotYa you have Cerberus App, etcetera... if you are root you will be the boss, you will be able to use root apps which will do everything you need like block ads, you can change (root or not) the kernel so that you can overclock the device, or change some tweaks or parameters in android (word "tweaks" is used in Android only for this), like unvolting, overclocking, negative image, led notifications prior S3, fast USB charging, etc... custom ROMS with your favorite "tweaks", etc...
As you can see, possibilities are infinite, so just ask or write what you want to do and we will give you how and where to find what you want...
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From everything you just told me, all I heard was... By rooting the phone you can modify the phone os system. over clocking, changing the kernel, ect.... you also mentioned that a lot of things mod apps can be found in the playstore. but I really dont think youre getting what I'm asking.... and I blame it on the fact that you've never really got to experience a jailbroken iPhone... so you dont get what I'm talking about.
Are there apps, tweaks, mods, (whatever you want to call them!!!!!) in the Android world.... that make apps do things there not suppose to? Or make them better? Are they available in the play store.... is there a site you can download and then install them. I really just dont think there is! Or everyone here would have answered the question already! Jailbroken iPhones are just better! Yes its amazingly cool the Android is an open OS..... but theres a reason! No ones writing any cool **** for them..... if I'm wrong.... point me in the direction of some cool **** !!!! Prove me wrong !!

SamJamz said:
I'm glad you asked!!! OK, on an Jailbroken iPhone you can download and install a tweak for Pandora that will allow you to have unlimited skips! Also get rid of those annoying ads. Ok, there's another tweak you can download that allows you to push one button... and download any song you're listening to on Pandora right to your phone...FOR FREE! This is just two small examples of tweaks or Mods or whatever you want to call them for the Pandora app. Now on an iPhone.... there are literately hundreds if not thousands of different tweaks... make by all different developers out there, for all different types of apps! So I want to know.... are there people/developers that are creating the same kinds of Mods or tweaks for rooted Android phones? I've forgotten why its so great to root your phone in the first place! So after rooting you can change the OS.....Great...... big deal..... what else can be done? Do you get what I'm saying now???
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There's an awesome tweak on Android that allows you to have unlimited skips and no ads on Pandora radio.
It's called not being a tight arse and buying the app from the Play Store.
It's a really great app and the developers deserve the small amount they're asking for month.
If you use the app and enjoy it, pay for it!
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SamJamz said:
From everything you just told me, all I heard was... By rooting the phone you can modify the phone os system. over clocking, changing the kernel, ect.... you also mentioned that a lot of things mod apps can be found in the playstore. but I really dont think youre getting what I'm asking.... and I blame it on the fact that you've never really got to experience a jailbroken iPhone... so you dont get what I'm talking about.
Are there apps, tweaks, mods, (whatever you want to call them!!!!!) in the Android world.... that make apps do things there not suppose to? Or make them better? Are they available in the play store.... is there a site you can download and then install them. I really just dont think there is! Or everyone here would have answered the question already! Jailbroken iPhones are just better! Yes its amazingly cool the Android is an open OS..... but theres a reason! No ones writing any cool **** for them..... if I'm wrong.... point me in the direction of some cool **** !!!! Prove me wrong !!
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I repeat, change your mind, one mind while you are using ios, one while you are using android... If your question is if there is a only app, store, or something like that as Cydia where you can find ALL mods, tweaks, launchers,etc, together, the answer is NO, you wont. If your question is if there are mods, tweaks, launchers, custom kernels and ROM in Android to personalize the device to your person, YES, there are, a lot. If your question is Where can you find them, the answer is IN SEVERAL PLACES depending the aggressive grade, the functionality, etc. Some of then, most, you will find in Google Play (there are several ways to find something), some of them in cookers blogs, and a lot of them in forums like this.
Consider that an open system as Android permit a lot of people around the world work together to get all these things (xda projects, Cyanogenmod, etc are some examples) and a level of personalization and freedom much greater than iOS. You could learn to cook a custom ROM with a custom launcher with all the fantasies you want, for example...
Apart of this, if you are thinking jailbroken iphones are better and you get a higher freedom than Android phones, really man, you are not only in the wrong place, but you are just wrong considering going back to Android from iOS or considering buying a Samsung...

Obagleyfreer said:
There's an awesome tweak on Android that allows you to have unlimited skips and no ads on Pandora radio.
It's called not being a tight arse and buying the app from the Play Store.
It's a really great app and the developers deserve the small amount they're asking for month.
If you use the app and enjoy it, pay for it!
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Have fun with that..... Although the phone itself is very cool. I'll stick with the jailbroken goodness....
But just ask yourself this one question.... If there's so many millions of people out there that love iPhone and jailbreaking.... don't you think there has to be something good about it?
I was like you at one point.... a non believer..... I went on and on to my friends with iPhones about how they were missing out.... and how much better Android was.... Until one day I was just tired of changing OS's and trying other peoples stuff... I switched to the iPhone 4s when it first came out.... I studied online how to jailbreak it.... and when I did.... I couldn't believe all the things I could do with it.... It was amazing! No one has told me anything....and I mean ANYTHING that says I should come back. some one prove me wrong !!!!

Obagleyfreer said:
There's an awesome tweak on Android that allows you to have unlimited skips and no ads on Pandora radio.
It's called not being a tight arse and buying the app from the Play Store.
It's a really great app and the developers deserve the small amount they're asking for month.
If you use the app and enjoy it, pay for it!
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AdAway or ROM Toolbox can block all ads in all apps installed in the phone.

jaswinky said:
AdAway or ROM Toolbox can block all ads in all apps installed in the phone.
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I'm done with this debate.....jailbreaking is just better...... I've played on both sides...... they won... simple as that!

There are cracked versions of software on Android just like all OS'. But this is not the place to ask where you get such applications. Most applications on the market have free versions with mildly annoying adverts etc but offer the full app, ad free for very reasonable prices. If you like the app and use it often then buy it.
On the customization point a rooted android is just a linux computer the possibilities are endless, there is also many choices when it comes to roms and software tweaks (depending on handset), you can even put thing on your home screen.

OP is just looking for an argument, some mod should close this thread because it's useless.

SamJamz said:
I'm done with this debate.....jailbreaking is just better...... I've played on both sides...... they won... simple as that!
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I am not sure if your question was serious or just to poke people in here (not my situation), but anyway man, if you are happy, I also will, so if you prefer, you won, congratulation, enjoy your wonderful iPhone, you are happy and I will sleep really glad.
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SamJamz said:
I'm done with this debate.....jailbreaking is just better...... I've played on both sides...... they won... simple as that!
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So this was a debate after all? I dont see the point of posting it, and saying "nah, i think jailbreaking is better".

Omega ROM for s4 has a "tweak hub" or whatever. It sounds like cindya. But that's just a small part of rooting. Ease of access to tweaks and mods is as simple as looking for what you want and applying it with android. If you aren't interested in learning beyond the "user friendly way" Android can accommodate you, but it will never be iOS.

Guys and gals, I just think that us and OP have a different mindset. Sounds to me like OP is a regular user, who, among other things, doesn't necessarily like to pay devs for their work, while we look at things from a technical standpoint. Just a different look on things. I bet what OP wants is the infamous Black Market, or whatever it's called.
Granted, I will argue that Android community is actually better off without such people (sorry, OP, no offense intended), as I would rather have a community of people who appreciate devs' work.
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My congrats to the OP, this wins most retarded thread I've seen on XDA in 2013.

This is the absolute most awkward and retarded thread over the entire forum!
Congratulations!
IB4L

What are the differences between AT&T MK2 (4.3) & NB1 (4.4)?

Since @rebel1699 gave AT&T users a way to expirence 4.4.2 and still maintain some control, I've loaded a few 4.4.2 ROMs. With just a cusary glance I don't see or feel much difference. I was hoping folks sharper than I would discuss this so I (and hopefully others might learn a thing or two). I do know they added a dir system/priv-app to store some apks, but don't know why? Maybe this could be answered first and get the ball rolling. Discuss.

U have to look in the perspective of what google thought at that time. Google implemented system/priv-app and this had to be continued by CM and other AOSP roms or else Google has all the rights to sue them. Only apks in /system/priv-app can use "system"-level permissions.(Thats what i think and i know. I might be wrong?)And as Touchwiz is just a skin ontop of Android, Samsung and other OEMs had to go with this.

SkywalkerZ said:
U have to look in the perspective of what google thought at that time it implemented system/priv-app and this had to be continued by CM and other AOSP roms or else Google has all the rights to sue them. Only apks in /system/priv-app can use "system"-level permissions.(Thats what i think and i know. I might be wrong?)And as Touchwiz is just a skin ontop of Android, Samsung and other OEMs had to go with this.
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Interesting observation. :good: Excellent start. One could expand on this issue as It relates to (Better, Worse or No Change). Maybe it could be disussed how this changes modding, etc...
Responses need not be technical in nature--although they are appreciated--opinions as to how you find the experience of using 4.3 vs 4.4 are greatly appreciated and informative.
This is a group discussion simply to share observations.
If you want, you can just vote in the poll. Names of thevvoters are private. EDIT:
Thank you fellow xda members and mobile phone users of all types and levels.

Well...status bar now has white icons...theres a camera shortcut on the bottom right corner of the lockscreen. And the lockscreen when playing music is different...those are pretty obvious changes which im sure you've noticed already lololol
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KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.

Raistlin1 said:
KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.
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Check this you can get something back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

mg2195 said:
Well...status bar now has white icons...theres a camera shortcut on the bottom right corner of the lockscreen. And the lockscreen when playing music is different...those are pretty obvious changes which im sure you've noticed already lololol
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This is all interesting stuff!:good:

Raistlin1 said:
KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.
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OPEN QUESTION: How does kit kit change the phones communication/access with the micro SD card? Is this good for the user?

numbR7 said:
OPEN QUESTION: How does kit kit change the phones communication/access with the micro SD card? Is this good for the user?
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It's horrible for the user. Look at this link.
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...plained-root-access-fix-now-available-1562147
The way I was able to get the functionality back was by rooting (which is somewhat a pain on NB1) and using this method here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215
I had to use method 2 since safestrap has issues flashing stuff to NB1.
Apparently this app also fixes it, but I haven't tried. But it still requires root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix

andrewdroid said:
It's horrible for the user. Look at this link.
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...plained-root-access-fix-now-available-1562147
The way I was able to get the functionality back was by rooting (which is somewhat a pain on NB1) and using this method here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215
I had to use method 2 since safestrap has issues flashing stuff to NB1.
Apparently this app also fixes it, but I haven't tried. But it still requires root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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This is extremely interesting! A few more "uprades" like this and we'll all be using the I-droid!

VOTE!!
Hey guys--Thanks for the comments so far.
If you don't feel like commenting how 'bout voting? Names are not recorded in any way.
A vote kinda says it in a nutshell!
So far, basically we have these diffetences:
1. White status bar icons.
2. Camera shortcut on lockscreen
3. Restricted access to microSDCard in 4.4.2 (and we learned how to regain access)

numbR7 said:
Since @rebel1699 gave AT&T users a way to expirence 4.4.2 and still maintain some control, I've loaded a few 4.4.2 ROMs. With just a cusary glance I don't see or feel much difference. I was hoping folks sharper than I would discuss this so I (and hopefully others might learn a thing or two). I do know they added a dir system/priv-app to store some apks, but don't know why? Maybe this could be answered first and get the ball rolling. Discuss.
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I am interested to learn this as well. For a casual user, it looks very similar.

OK guys, let's get specific! If 4.4 is better than 4.3--why? If it's not--why? Come on, share! I really think we need to stop taking so-called uprades for granted! I've seen guys/gals almost in tears over losing their custom recovery (MK2) or access to their microSDCard (that btw, cost people their hard earned money). Remember what the commercial sez "knowledge is power!" I believe that is part of what xda was founded on--discovering and sharing knowledge. I know good people from around the globe have increased my knowledge and enriched my phoning experience (if "phoning"is a real word) Instead of just taking all the time, I'm trying to find away to help out however small. I have had the pleasure of communicating with all types of phone enthusiast and am better for it! Give a little--take a little--Discuss!
Oh yeah, as you can see from my signature I want to verbalize a shamless plug for Hyperdrive ROM v15--it's saved me so far during the "lock down." A hardy thanks to @sbreen94!

Guedeaux said:
I am interested to learn this as well. For a casual user, it looks very similar.
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If you enjoy the idea of owning your phone instead of it owning you, I encourage you continue reading everthing you can. Though there are a few people with poor communication skills-shall we say-the vast majority of the folks around here will help you learn and get the most out of that expensive rectangle you bought. Read one of those "everthing you need to know for noobs threads"--they are well done and will get you started out right. Enjoy my friend!
You will see a "1" on your thanks meter becuase I appreciate your showing interest--and in that way you have helped me!

numbR7 said:
Oh yeah, as you can see from my signature I want to verbalize a shamless plug for Hyperdrive ROM v15--it's saved me so far during the "lock down." A hardy thanks to @sbreen94!
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Actually, one of the reasons I was interested in the update is because I can't get Hyperdrive to work properly. I don't want to derail this thread, but I posted in another thread with someone who was having similar issues with Hyperdrive. If you get a chance, and have a second, please check out this thread. I really love Hyperdrive, but if I can't get it to work, I am thinking about just unrooting and upgrading to kitkat (but I would rather use Hyperdrive). Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51275339#post51275339

Well phone fans--when your thread drops off "General" to "Q&A" page 1 then drops a page a day--your thread has been bitten! This thread is now a "walker!" The merciful thing is a crossbow to the head from Daryl Dixon. LOL!
Thanks to the folks who contributed. I learned few things and I hope others did as well. Off topic -- I even got a chance to actually help someone with a significant problem. So, thanks for that--it's nice to be the helper rather than the helpee for a change.
Well Daryl, don't miss -- "LOOSE!!!!

numbR7 said:
You will see a "1" on your thanks meter because I appreciate your showing interest--and in that way you have helped me!
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But what if I already had 2 thanks and magically dropped to 1? Would my life be a lie?

Dabreaker9 said:
But what if I already had 2 thanks and magically dropped to 1? Would my life be a lie?
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A question for the ages! All I can say is "brood over it brother, brood over it..."

My AT&T S4 says camera pic to SD card and I am on NB1 4.4.2 It says it to Storage/extSdCard/ DCIM/ Camera Pictures camera takes are in there on my SD card. Have you gone into Camera settings and at bottom of list STORAGE is set to Memory Card, Not Device. Just keep hitting the Setting icon on each screen until you get to screen with Lacation Tag Review etc.