Which first? - Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Its been a few years so i was needing a refreshing (& though simple question, i cant seem to find exact answer).
I have the sm-t337a tab 4. If i plan on rooting it but i also was looking at installing a ROM, which order do i need to (or which do you recommend) do them in???
Thank you for your assistance

gdownloads said:
Its been a few years so i was needing a refreshing (& though simple question, i cant seem to find exact answer).
I have the sm-t337a tab 4. If i plan on rooting it but i also was looking at installing a ROM, which order do i need to (or which do you recommend) do them in???
Thank you for your assistance
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You always have to root first before you are able to install a custom rom. That said, to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any custom roms available for the SM-T337A. Unfortunately, AT&T and Verizon lock the bootloader on their devices now. This means that you can't have a custom kernel or a custom recovery. Since Cyanogenmod and similar roms based off of it require a custom kernel, you can't have any cyanogen-type roms. That said, a stock based rom (anything capable of running on the stock kernel) should work fine, but as I've said, to the best of my knowledge nobody has made any roms like that for this device yet. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
You always have to root first before you are able to install a custom rom. That said, to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any custom roms available for the SM-T337A. Unfortunately, AT&T and Verizon lock the bootloader on their devices now. This means that you can't have a custom kernel or a custom recovery. Since Cyanogenmod and similar roms based off of it require a custom kernel, you can't have any cyanogen-type roms. That said, a stock based rom (anything capable of running on the stock kernel) should work fine, but as I've said, to the best of my knowledge nobody has made any roms like that for this device yet. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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That sucks. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with just rooting it and maybe a different stock rom, if any available.
I was just searching on here & I'm not sure what instructions are the ones I need for this tab. I saw where someone says they tried towelroot & 1 other but did not work, & other similar posts, then find several posts mentioning that they have rooted it, so I'm not sure what way DOES work to root it. (I also found on another site, which I don't know if Im allowed to post the external link, "Working Tutorial How To Update/Upgrade Samsung SM-T337A To Android 5.1 Lollipop!) Needless to say Im a little unsure of what method I need to root it. ANDROID VERSION: 4.4.2 BUILD: kot49h.t337aucu1ank2
Also Is there a alternative stock based rom (with tutorial) you might recommend ?

gdownloads said:
That sucks. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with just rooting it and maybe a different stock rom, if any available.
I was just searching on here & I'm not sure what instructions are the ones I need for this tab. I saw where someone says they tried towelroot & 1 other but did not work, & other similar posts, then find several posts mentioning that they have rooted it, so I'm not sure what way DOES work to root it. (I also found on another site, which I don't know if Im allowed to post the external link, "Working Tutorial How To Update/Upgrade Samsung SM-T337A To Android 5.1 Lollipop!) Needless to say Im a little unsure of what method I need to root it. ANDROID VERSION: 4.4.2 BUILD: kot49h.t337aucu1ank2
Also Is there a alternative stock based rom (with tutorial) you might recommend ?
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All you can do is try towelroot. If it comes back as failed, then oh well, it doesn't mess anything up. Towelroot will only work for kernel dates before July 2014 I believe. There are NO custom ROMs, no recovery, no alternatives for this tablet. No developer interest, no carrier support, so no android version beyond 4.4.2. We have been abandoned by AT&T with no way of getting any updates ever again because they locked us out. So we are stuck with a worthless pile of crap tablet that gets more laggy by the day. No more carrier variants of any device for me ever again. International only.

rootng that works
pre4speed said:
All you can do is try towelroot. If it comes back as failed, then oh well, it doesn't mess anything up. Towelroot will only work for kernel dates before July 2014 I believe. There are NO custom ROMs, no recovery, no alternatives for this tablet. No developer interest, no carrier support, so no android version beyond 4.4.2. We have been abandoned by AT&T with no way of getting any updates ever again because they locked us out. So we are stuck with a worthless pile of crap tablet that gets more laggy by the day. No more carrier variants of any device for me ever again. International only.
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kingroot works perfectly on the T337A tab4

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[Q] LTE Support on Rooted Note 3 Ireland

Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
bazzertron said:
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
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If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
radicalisto said:
If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
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Thanks for the quick reply radicalisto, to be honest I'm ready to move away from touchwiz so a custom ROM sounds like a good solution to me. Choosing one is the conundrum. Are any of them more stable/full featured than the rest? I would appreciate any advice about a ROM to choose.
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
If you are on 4.3 still and fancy CM11 -- Two ROMs you should try are temasek's CM11 + Yank555's kernel (amazing pal) - Or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel (Just as good as temasek's) both are packed with great features, awesome battery life and generally just great. However you may or may not know, CM doesn't support SPen functions, you'd have to use GMDSPen or another alternative.
EDIT: Little side note, again not sure if you are aware.. if you flash Kitkat 4.4.2 your bootloader upgrades so you cannot use CM, as it runs on 4.3's bootloader, there is no downgrade option either currently.
Not that I'm so concerned about the CM bootloader using 4.3, but would I be safe in assuming that the CM team will have to eventually switch to the 4.4 bootloader?
radicalisto said:
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
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Well you're allowed to tell me as I was asking to be swayed...
I'm thinking I'm going to try x-note first as it seems to be the most popular and I'm guessing it's that way for a reason.
Yeah CM team are working on it now from what I have read, I'm using X-Note V.8 with CivZ KatEngine 2.0 kernel

New to I337 somewhat confused

New to the I337. AT&T with NC1. Android 4.4.2. Stock ROM with the 3.4.0-1125940 kernel. Rooted, SE Linux permissive, Safestrap installed. Compared to other phones I have owned, rooted and installed custom ROMS for this one is way more complex.
Today I tried to Safestrap flash a couple of different ROM's- the Goole Play edition (jflte GPE) and the Lollipop 5.1 ROM 2015061jflte both times using Safestrap. Neither worked. In the case of the Google Play edition, it wanted to install a new kernel as well, I tried with the recommended kernel on the install GUI (wow an install GUI on Android). Both times stuck in a boot loop. I ended up using for the second time, the excellent information here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
to get back to stock NC1 (thanks again guut13 for the excellent guide and links to resources) and restored via Safestrap the present stock configuration.
My questions are as follows (I am posting this after a LOT of reading here)
1)Can I use LokiDoki ? I understand it resolves problems with the locked boot loader where one can flash pretty much any S4 ROM on the I337.Is this true?
2) I wanted to give the two ROMS I mentioned today a try. Neither worked although I followed the instructions carefully (wipe, install and reboot). I also would like to try the Phoenix ROM. Is it compatible with Safestrap? Are the two I tried today compatible with Safestrap?
3) I am on 4.4.2. I understand that 4.4.4 is out there as well as 5 but when I check either via Kies or OTA I am told this is the latest firmware for my phone. Any way to update this?
As I said earlier this phone is a lot more complex from a modding standpoint than any other I have experience with. I am unclear on which ROM's will work with the NC1. Before I knew about Safestrap and the boot loader problem I tried installing TWERP and ended up having to rebuild things with guut13's excellent thread.
With NC1 am I stuck on the stock ROM ? Can kernels be updated on NC1 using LokiDoki?
Any light or advice to be shed on my confusion wold be very much appreciated.
Expat
Look at this other excellent thread started I by guut13,î answers all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Loki doki is not an option for you, and you can only install tw based roms.
Cats_PJ's
Thanks for the link. Have seen this thread. So I am on 4.4.2. So can I flash a 5.x ROM on the phone provided its TW --or does the phone have to be updated via OTH or another method to 5.x first? Or am I stuck on the ROMS specifically available on 4.4.2?
Thanks again very much for your interest and the link. Wish I had shopped more carefully and bought a non AT&T phone, one of the 5xxx models but I couldn't find anything other than the AT&T ones here in Ecuador.
Expat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
That will get you to 5.0.1. You can flash the lollipop roms after that.
I wish I had known more before I bought my phone too. Live and learn, I'm about do for an upgrade though. Good luck.
Cats_PJs said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
That will get you to 5.0.1. You can flash the lollipop roms after that.
I wish I had known more before I bought my phone too. Live and learn, I'm about do for an upgrade though. Good luck.
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Again many kind thanks for the help. This is the most complicated chain of BS to go through just to update a ROM thanks to the locked boot loader I have ever seen..... however you and others here deserve a lot of credit for finding workarounds...... the phone has been made needlessly complex with the BL and efforts by Google and AT&T to "protect" their turf and monetise the user. I would upgrade today were I not in Ecuador where everything costs double what it does in the US. The phone thief crop here is thick- this is the fourth phone in 2 years although the Galaxy Grand Prime I bought after the last robbery I still have. Broke the screen on that one and it was repaired improperly, I get a blank white screen on startup so can't get into recovery so its worthless to me for what I want it for..... so I have the S4 AT&T. Ah well.
Many thanks and enough of my *****ing.
Expat

Ordered the Verizon S5 and it's coming with 4.4.2. What should I do and not do?

I ordered the AT&T unlocked S5 Active off Swappa from a seller that resells phones from corporate usage. It came with 4.4.2 and some modifications that lead me to believe the company does did not permit upgrades. That said, it was hell to get MTP working on it and it did not read any microSD cards (yes I troubleshot plenty). They offered to replace it and so I have a Verizon S5 (not Active) on the way instead, as I'm hoping for more official upgrade support (Marshmallow this month??).
Aaanyway, regarding root, updates, tips/tricks, etc, any suggestions?
I'm coming from the AT&T Moto X 2013 but have a good deal of experience with roots, mods, etc.
rino757 said:
I ordered the AT&T unlocked S5 Active off Swappa from a seller that resells phones from corporate usage. It came with 4.4.2 and some modifications that lead me to believe the company does did not permit upgrades. That said, it was hell to get MTP working on it and it did not read any microSD cards (yes I troubleshot plenty). They offered to replace it and so I have a Verizon S5 (not Active) on the way instead, as I'm hoping for more official upgrade support (Marshmallow this month??).
Aaanyway, regarding root, updates, tips/tricks, etc, any suggestions?
I'm coming from the AT&T Moto X 2013 but have a good deal of experience with roots, mods, etc.
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Honestly, it's a very easy procedure I was hunting and hunting when I got mine (about a month ago) so I've done plenty of research.
Mine had 4.4.2 on it as well. There is a downgrade process which is fairly simple and straightforward. It requires using Odin. I also followed a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tut-root-tripping-knox-t2803951 which helped me a lot. I also read that towelroot isn't working, so I found one set of tools which has towelroot plus v2 and v3. v3 worked for me the second time. Try googling some stuff, there is tons of information, I'm looking for a good ROM or at least a pre-rooted updated stock ROM. I have version 0A8, which is the first OTA lollipop update. I'm looking for a ROM based off of lollipop there are tons based on kitkat kernel thou. CM is working on I think 12.1 So I may downgrade again because the downside to having Verizon lollipop installed, TWRP will no longer work. Stay with kitkat, install TWRP, and go from there, think I'm going back to kitkat to find a decent ROM, I like having recovery. Hope I helped a bit
silverdragon76 said:
Honestly, it's a very easy procedure I was hunting and hunting when I got mine (about a month ago) so I've done plenty of research.
Mine had 4.4.2 on it as well. There is a downgrade process which is fairly simple and straightforward. It requires using Odin. I also followed a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tut-root-tripping-knox-t2803951 which helped me a lot. I also read that towelroot isn't working, so I found one set of tools which has towelroot plus v2 and v3. v3 worked for me the second time. Try googling some stuff, there is tons of information, I'm looking for a good ROM or at least a pre-rooted updated stock ROM. I have version 0A8, which is the first OTA lollipop update. I'm looking for a ROM based off of lollipop there are tons based on kitkat kernel thou. CM is working on I think 12.1 So I may downgrade again because the downside to having Verizon lollipop installed, TWRP will no longer work. Stay with kitkat, install TWRP, and go from there, think I'm going back to kitkat to find a decent ROM, I like having recovery. Hope I helped a bit
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Helped a ton I was thinking of sticking with the Active so I wouldn't need a case, but with all the development here, I'm glad I switched. And the Verizon model seems to be doing better than the AT&T one in terms of OTAs.
I was on a 4.4.4 for a long time as OTAs lock bootloaders.
I am happily rooted on 5.0 running a TW stock rooted ROM.
Beware of OTAs..... they can kill you. LP is Def better!
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HELP REQUIRED to choose a ROM for Galaxy S4 i9505 android 4.3 version~~

Hi guys, Newbie to forum and rooting here! I own a Galaxy S4 i9505 android version 4.3 and want it to upgrade to a higher, better and stable version. I've been doing a lot of research and found that the latest 6.0.1 gives issues with wifi on s4! I always wanted to root my phone but never did but since pokemon go doesn't run on 4.3 I'm glad that I'm forced to root it ! So, which is the best ROM and android version that I should upgrade my phone to that'll not show any bugs or issues! I don't care if the android version's not latest..I own only one phone! Just want to run pokemon go and exploit some features that rooting will provide! Thanks for help~
There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
GDReaper said:
There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
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Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
phoenixs4 said:
Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
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The Google Play Edition ROM has always been working well for me.
Roll ultra
Enviado desde mi GT-I9505 mediante Tapatalk
Me, ive come from many years of custom ROMs on my S2, and due to all the issues with CM13 which was the last ROM i ran on it, i retired the S2 the other day and got a cheap second hand S4, and i have to say after all the drama of custom CM13 on the S2, i am actually enjoying the stock 5.01 LP ROM on the S4. All ive done is run CF Auto Root and then run this debloat app on it Until i do enough research on what a good custom ROM to install, im just going to stick with the stock 5.0.1...
Stock 5.01 is available here at sammobile
It should be enough of an upgrade over 4.3, plus you should probably flash this at least once before going to a custom ROM anyways...for reasons i wont bore you with
You can try this first up as an alternate to sammobile.com (because they limit your speed):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647
This backdoors a fast download from Sammobile...much faster
I just got it to finally work to download my ROM!
Or if you try the main sammobile.com website
If you choose to go this route, pick your country, and if you want an unbranded, no carrier bloat version, pick the one form your country with no carrier name after it in brackets, i.e. pick the one with just the 3 letter region code in brackets after it. Note: its about 1.4Gb to download, and unlike the old days sammobile will make it fricking painful to get without paying them...they throttle the download. Im on my 8th go trying to get my ROM, every time it fails you have to restart, so they soak up your data allowance the bastards, but theres nowhere else i know of to get my ROM
Or another alternate:
http://fw.updato.com/
Ok so I've decided to flash this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...om-untouched-google-play-edition-5-1-t3198177
But I'm getting confused between the meanings of rooting and flashing ROM. Do I need to "root" my phone (I would use Super SU) before flashing it? Because I'm following this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlV3plfnVA
and his recovery screen looks different than mine. Apparently, he's using clockworkMod CWM but how do I do that? So, if I root my phone first then will my recover screen look similar to his? It's confusing! Please help!
Like i said id flash a stock ROM first before going custom....GPE still counts as a custom ROM
Be sure to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67514801&postcount=1380 and more than just the front page of any ROM, this one has a few issues, i assume fixed.....
As for recovery, you should forget about Phliz (it can have issues with newer ROM's) and use TWRP instead (i used to hate TWRP, but CWM based recoveries seemingly arent being updated to fix issues lately)
I did a quick post about installing it (and fixing a potential niggle) here earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67769031&postcount=6

eMMC11: Pros/Cons Please? Unrooted MM vs Rooted LL on 900V

Like a lot of noobies to the Verizon S5, I've discovered I bought an eMMC 11 locked bootloader S5 and I can't run the stuff I had on my last phone (USC S5 in my case). I've passed denial and anger, and am struggling with acceptance. Maybe the choices aren't THAT bad (ugh, they probably are). So help those of us who just bought a new (used) phone accept reality...
So it looks like the choice at this point is Unrooted Marshmallow or Rooted Lollipop. And is it really worth all the trouble to install Safestrap to end up with the Unrooted Marshmallow like what's already on the phone?
So, what are the pros/cons of rooted lollipop? What does one lose/What does one gain? Is it worth it?
SupraLance said:
And is it really worth all the trouble to install Safestrap to end up with the Unrooted Marshmallow like what's already on the phone?
So, what are the pros/cons of rooted lollipop? What does one lose/What does one gain? Is it worth it?
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SM-G900V is a very good phone from any point of view.
I've bought near 20 of them, it's my hobby to repair something .
Some were sold, some I've presented to my friends, some are in use in my family.
Really, all my family use this phone model, despite I'm on the opposite side of the globe from Verizon.
So, as an active SM-G900V user I can say:
1. There's no better firmware than a lightly debloated stock TW ROM.
2. A normal, usual user should not use a rooted phone as a daily driver. Rooted phone demands much more attention than a normal device to keep it in working state.
3. I personally don't use rooted phones even if I can root them.
4. CID11 (Toshiba EMMC) seems to be more reliable than CID15 (Samsung EMMC). N.B.: I'm sure, but it's only my observation.
5. You can install many good ROMs on CID11 phone, but you're limited to TW.
6. SafeStrap is not a root substitution but a way to flash a custom ROM to your phone.
So, CID11 phone and unrooted MM is my choice.
But if you cannot live without root and still want to find a CID15 phone, you may want to look at this and this threads.
So I assume you run the stock MM with safestrap, and used a debloat zip through safestrap to debloat? If there is an already debloated stock MM rom I'm not seeing it, but this place has so many similar subforums and outdated stickies it's really confusing now.
I agree with you about using non-rooted stock DD. On my USC S5, I have multirom that lets me switch back and forth between that and LOS by just rebooting and I have the best of both worlds at my fingertips. But I do use the unrooted but debloated TW most.
SupraLance said:
So I assume you run the stock MM with safestrap, and used a debloat zip through safestrap to debloat? If there is an already debloated stock MM rom I'm not seeing it, but this place has so many similar subforums and outdated stickies it's really confusing now.
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I run "almost stock" MM even WITHOUT safestrap for everyday use.
This is because some applications (mostly bank applications) do not run on the phone with safestrap installed.
But safestrap is used for flashing process.
I use this ROM in unrooted variant as my daily driver.
This ROM is nice too.
Of course, only system partition is altered. Bootloader, modem, kernel remain stock from SM-G900V.
Did you ever run Havoc OS or put multiboot on your USC S5 variant? You might give it a try on this new one. I too did a few S5 emmc11? or so and had to safestrap them. I have 2 here now that are Verizon variants im needing new screens for and not sure what they are on. Should hopefully be ok and older binary.
noidodroid said:
Did you ever run Havoc OS or put multiboot on your USC S5 variant? You might give it a try on this new one. I too did a few S5 emmc11? or so and had to safestrap them. I have 2 here now that are Verizon variants im needing new screens for and not sure what they are on. Should hopefully be ok and older binary.
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hey buddy., can help me out., with the instruccions to unlock the bootloader and istall twrp on my gs5., i have the emm11 chip., i tried but i can't

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