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Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).
Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
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Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
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What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?
If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...
Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?
First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.
i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update
Hello peeps,
is this impossible? Im a noob and Im trying to install the 4.54 rom update on my EVO 4G (and trying to get my post count up. lol)
Yes its impossible to do without rooting. The only thing you can do is accept the ota. Or you can root and do anything you want. Its not hard. Just read read read. And ask for some help if needed. There's a whole thread in the dev section specifically for first timers
We're comin from a pure power source.
Rooting is eliminating the need to do anything you do not want to. Without it, you can not uninstall bloatware, cool apps, install one of dozens of great ROMs for your viewing pleasure.
You can not install a custom ROM without being rooted.
Technically you can. If you acheive s-off on your phone then you can flash a recovery. And s-off isnt root. It's just and unlocked bootloader. Once you have an unlocked bootloader then like i said you can flash a recovery image then install a rom. Heres a link on how to get s-off! revolutionary.io
Good luck!
dope. I'll try these methods.. but Im not rooting my phone
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
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wessiide said:
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
Sent from my SCH-I545
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
RenSoAbrupt said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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Thanks for the info. This will be my 5th rooted phone and 3rd bootloader unlock so the warranty thing means nothing to me, but I appreciate the help. Info is sporadic and inbetween on this forum.
Sent from my SCH-I545
I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
Raistlin1 said:
I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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Yes you are correct, unlock your boot loader flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu, which version of android are you currently running as there's 2 versions of tarp, 1 for jb the other for kitkat
Here's a sticky thread with all the required links http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
For kitkat use mfastboot (Motorola binary)instead of fastboot to flash recovery
Sent on my Moto X
Or just use SlapMyMoto and use this http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=18 for the 4.2.2 files you need.
I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot will root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
EDIT: Editing here by request on this thread. There is another thread on this forum dealing with Kingroot in detail. Some suggest that the Kinguser app transmits the phone's IMEI and this introduces some risk. For me, I managed to get rid of the Kinguser app and install SuperSU instead. My phone works fine, rooted, with SuperSU (which was installed via recovery/flash method). I have no comment about how risky Kinguser app is, whether anyone is trying to steal something from you, or what your risk level might be with Kingroot method. Buyer beware.
I would say, if Kingroot can do this without the downgrade/unlock/relock/upgrade method then so can non-KR devs.
Does it work with a locked bootloader?
We already have a thread about Kingroot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
It's not being stickied because it's a very shade rooting method, very little is known about how it works and what more it does behind the scenes except for rooting. And Kinguser cannot be replaced by SuperSU by any normal, conventional means.
Yes, it worked on my phone with a locked bootloader.
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
mr72 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
FWIW what I did to get rid of Kingroot and the Kinguser app (which is the real beast to remove) is after rooting with KR, I installed the dual recovery and then flashed the pre-rooted LP from TWRP. That totally eliminated the KR and etc. so if anyone has taken my potentially bad advice and rooted with KR, that's how to undo and retain root with SuperSU. I still think it is easier/simpler than the "tried and true" method of rooting for those who have already upgraded to LP/5.0.2.
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Thank you so much for information. I'm ready to do and i saw your post. Thank you so much again.
mr72 said:
I just got my Z3c over the weekend, and since it was working perfectly on AT&T with LP 5.0.2 I was reluctant to do the whole crazy downgrade/unock/relock/root/flash/upgrade/etc. root method.
Fortunately the latest version of Kingroot works great to root the phone with OTA Lollipop upgrade working and unlocked bootloader. I have 23.1.A.1.28 rooted without even having to enable ADB or do anything but install and run the Kingroot app.
IMHO someone should update the sticky threads. This is a much simpler method to get rooted LP on your Z3c. Just upgrade as usual and then root with Kingroot. Couldn't be easier.
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Its not so tricky to root with giefroot. Just downgrade, root install dualrecovery and flash pre rooted lollipop. Thats all. Personal i dont trust kingroot. Nobody know how they do the root and there are always discussion about some data sending to servers. But its everyone choice
mr72 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize Kingroot was such a bad thing. It's also very difficult to remove.
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https://www.google.pl/search?q=repl...-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=BSaPVbTJNszbU-L2g8AG
followed the method in the first link, worked perfectly.
Super-sume on the play store does that with one click to remove kingroot
1) I suggest you change the title or just close this thread
2) I suggest you install a clean new stock firmware through Flashtool and root it via Giefroot ONLY (I know downgrading is boring and a bit harder, but that is still the safest method)
Kingroot is the simplest method, maybe not the most safe.
Giefroot is the longest, maybe the most safe.
Both of them have the same effect, root the phone.
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
fabjazz said:
No need to close the thread, I don't care Chinese developers need my IMEI to root my phone..
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The right thread with the right title and the right OP is already here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/kingroot-4-0-t3105593
That's why I suggested they close this one.
fabjazz said:
So if you agree with this idea, where is the problem? We are free to choose if we are informed to that.
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I can't see any information about risks inside the OP of this thread and that's the only post a noob usually reads!
Please search the meaning of the verb "to suggest": it's not imperative and gives freedom of choice.
In this case, this one already exists :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3107461
[ROOT ANDROID][2.x-5.0] KINGROOT: The One-Click Root Tool for Almost All Devices
Maybe, I suggest to close all double threads(or seems to be)... I suggest to all noob peoples to keep all questions for themselves... Great for a forum ! ?
Don't feel assaulted, just I think to ask a same question differently gives another answers, it depends who is asking and the point of view.
But you are right for the risks with IMEI.
We don't know if there is a risk or not, but it's just my opinion. ?
I think to help and share experiences are the good way.
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Rooted with kingroot, installed dual recovery and removed kingroot/kinguser with super-sume app (on play store).
All these steps with locked bootloader and last LP firmware
I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
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I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
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Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
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Go to the unlock thread that's located in the Android Development section. There's a method for unlocking to get to MM.....if you read a little bit deeper in the threads that ideveraux had mentioned if you have the 11 CID you cannot be rooted on MM because it uses a different kernel. That said, users with the 15 CID can be rooted on MM AFTER they've unlocked their Bootloader. Again, go to the unlock thread and read up