Zenfone 2E (yet another ZF2 model) - ZenFone 2 General

Just saw this on CNET: http://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-gophone-gets-entry-level-asus-zenfone-2e/
Specifications show that it only has 1 GB of RAM, so the bloatware might be more reduced
Thoughts comparing it to the 500CL maybe?

Intel CPU and 120$ If it has microSD its a good deal since internal storage is low.

aziz07 said:
Intel CPU and 120$ If it has microSD its a good deal since internal storage is low.
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yeah, it has "MicroSD card (up to 64 GB)". I wonder what the specs of that Intel Atom are. Maybe 1.5GHz?

''You can buy the black or white Asus ZenFone 2E at Walmart and Target stores immediately'' lols They get it before cellphone companies.
Since its x86_64 dual-core, I guess it will be a 64Bit Z3480 2.13Ghz or Z3460 1.6Ghz with half the Z3580 2Mb cache. Its their only two dual-core processors in Atom 3xxx series. They won't for sure use a 2 years old Atom 2xxx CPU.
This is a good site for hardware benchmarks in performance order:
Intel Atom Z3580 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3580-SoC.123974.0.html
Intel Atom Z3480 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3480-SoC.123588.0.html
Intel Atom Z3460 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3460-SoC.123585.0.html

aziz07 said:
''You can buy the black or white Asus ZenFone 2E at Walmart and Target stores immediately'' lols They get it before cellphone companies.
Since its x86_64 dual-core, I guess it will be a 64Bit Z3480 2.13Ghz or Z3460 1.6Ghz with half the Z3580 2Mb cache. Its their only two dual-core processors in Atom 3xxx series. They won't for sure use a 2 years old Atom 2xxx CPU.
This is a good site for hardware benchmarks in performance order:
Intel Atom Z3580 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3580-SoC.123974.0.html
Intel Atom Z3480 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3480-SoC.123588.0.html
Intel Atom Z3460 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3460-SoC.123585.0.html
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Well its an AT&T exclusive right now apparently, so I guess its locked to GoPhone.

aziz07 said:
''You can buy the black or white Asus ZenFone 2E at Walmart and Target stores immediately'' lols They get it before cellphone companies.
Since its x86_64 dual-core, I guess it will be a 64Bit Z3480 2.13Ghz or Z3460 1.6Ghz with half the Z3580 2Mb cache. Its their only two dual-core processors in Atom 3xxx series. They won't for sure use a 2 years old Atom 2xxx CPU.
This is a good site for hardware benchmarks in performance order:
Intel Atom Z3580 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3580-SoC.123974.0.html
Intel Atom Z3480 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3480-SoC.123588.0.html
Intel Atom Z3460 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-Z3460-SoC.123585.0.html
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No, it's the good old Z2560. This phone is basically just a rebranded ZE500CL.

kanagawaben said:
No, it's the good old Z2560. This phone is basically just a rebranded ZE500CL.
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:crying: Was too good for 120$ I guess. How does the Z2560 compare to Z3460?

aziz07 said:
:crying: Was too good for 120$ I guess. How does the Z2560 compare to Z3460?
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the 3000 series has nearly twice the performance per clock of the 2000 series, and a much improved GPU and turbo speeds.

I don't understand why they don't use Intel's 14nm CPUs. They are much cheaper, faster, more efficient and smaller.
CPU+GPU TDP 2W: http://ark.intel.com/products/85474/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8500-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-2_24-GHz
Something like Atom X3 or X5. 14nm Intel Core M is targeted at tablets with 4.5W TDP but is close in performance to an Intel i3 2n Gen or i5 1st Gen.
I mean if there are 10.6'' 299$ Intel Core M tablets with 4Gb DDR3 64GB SSD 64GB ROM, why not the Atom 14m in cellphones?
(Source: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...875.html?spm=5261.7756712.1998621897.2.Au3JOm)

I think that this is more of a clearance initiative for the CL models not really selling that much..take the remaining hardware... Build up a model for the lowest price point and realign sales accordingly.. More or less like the outrageous difference between the sales of the S6 and the S6 Edge.. The Edge is atleast 3x in sales whereas the "simple" version is being offered with 30% discount... It's simple business..

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DualCore - PHONE?

Just heard out of blue and read somewhere on the forums that some companies are planning on dualcore.
Just curious how true is that?
dude.. wrong place to ask this.
But... Yea its true. There are some 'dual core' processors out there now, but its mainly one GPU processor and a CPU processor.
Ive read somewhere that Qualcom are planning on makin a true dual core cpu ;-)
I think that they should hold off. 1Ghz is fast enough. We have not meet 2Ghz yet. In my opinion a dual core phone would be too powerful!!! But in many cases it would be a nice option. Everything would be instant and they would have to increase the nand and ram speed. Imagine, a phone with 0 lag with no matter what you do.....
think of the battery life with 2GHz processor!
arkatis said:
think of the battery life with 2GHz processor!
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They would probably find something more energy efficient - like the Intel N450 processors as opposed to its predecessors.
http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a9.php
the processor behind every dual core chipset.
samsung announced releasing a 1ghz dual core processor for early 2011 , as well as qualcomm started shipping its 1.2 ghz dual core processor , but not yet applied on phones but is said to be in early 2011 too, but the qualcomm 1.5 was delayed for the end of 2011 , that is all the info i collected about dualcore processors

[OFF Topic] A new architecture

8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
persano said:
8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
arda99 said:
Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
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sorry, but mediatek stoled my idea, they are doing an exellent job with not more cores, it is same performance with more cores with more battery saving and making a good architecture no like amd, amd isnt bad, they chipsets are wrong built, bulldozer stink

Snapdragon 400 Cuad vs Snapdragon S4 Pro

Simple question, I purchased a Moto G GPE and its on its way but i have the curiosity about how the SOC Snapdragon 400 Cuad Core compares to something like the S4 Pro that was in the Nexus 4 which ran great. I know its a newer chip but i havent found any real evidence whether the architecture is superior or inferior to the S4 Pro since it was a flagship chip but the 400 is budget. Anyone has any insight on this? Thanks.
best way to compare the two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
mike21pr said:
Simple question, I purchased a Moto G GPE and its on its way but i have the curiosity about how the SOC Snapdragon 400 Cuad Core compares to something like the S4 Pro that was in the Nexus 4 which ran great. I know its a newer chip but i havent found any real evidence whether the architecture is superior or inferior to the S4 Pro since it was a flagship chip but the 400 is budget. Anyone has any insight on this? Thanks.
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Snapdragon 400 is positioned more like S4 Plus, not Pro. As in marketing positioning.
Speaking in technical terms however, those two SoCs have a completely differnet architecture. S4 Plus always has Krait cores, while our S400 has Cortex-A7 cores, which is generally somewhat slower than Krait, partially because Krait is an Out-of-Order architecture, while Cortex-A7 is In-Order.
In terms of cores S4 Plus always had two cores (up to 1,5 GHz), while our S400 has four cores @ 1,2 GHz.
Now go figure what´s faster. I´d personally prefer two Kraits
Note: Qualcom had really messed up the naming in S400 series as the chips can contain either two Krait cores or four Cortex-A7 cores. Don´t get me wrong, Cortex-A7 is a great architecture , mostly because its performance/power consumption ratio, but the SoCs containg those cores should have been labeled as Snapdragon 350 or something like that.

Best Intel processors for performance

The rivalry between Intel and AMD has intensified in the past few years, with team red playing catch-up and introducing some really competitive products. On the other hand, Intel released its new 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S processor series earlier this year as an update to the Comet Lake lineup. Numbers suggest that Intel hasn’t done enough to really improve over last year’s offerings. In contrast, AMD’s Ryzen 5000 series has definitely caught a lot of attention from gamers and PC building enthusiasts.
Having said that, Intel has been a leader in the CPU space for years and continues to do so. Their processors offer great IPC (instructions per clock) performance and high clock speeds making them great for gaming purposes. Intel also has top-of-the-line HEDT (high-end desktop) processors that offer excellent performance for the asking price for professional workloads.
Here’s a look at the best Intel processors for performance:
Intel Core i9-10980XE​One of Intel's most powerful commercial processors, the Core i9-10980XE spearheads the company’s Extreme lineup. With a total of 18-cores and 36-threads, this beast can deliver excellent performance for consumers looking for a CPU that can keep with the most demanding tasks. It is overclockable, but with 165W TDP, this chip can get really hot, so make sure you have proper cooling.
Clock speeds: 3.0GHz - 4.6GHz
18-Cores, 36 Threads
24.8MB L3 Cache
48 PCIe 3.0 lanes
165W TDP
~$990
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Intel Core i9-11900K​Under the new 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S branding, the latest consumer offering includes the Core i9-11900K as its most powerful processor offering. However, compared to last year’s 10900K, Intel has taken out two of the cores, bringing it down to a total of eight cores. This came as a surprise to many, with reviewers suggesting not to buy the new chip. While that is true to an extent, the fact remains that it is a powerful processor. Sure AMD has great chips that can thrash this chip, but what is important here is that this overclockable chip can run at speeds going over 5GHz, and it comes with an integrated GPU
Clock speeds: 3.5GHz - 5.3GHz
8-Cores, 16 Threads
16MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
95W TDP
~$520
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Intel Core i9-10900K​The 10th-gen Core i9-10900K is still an excellent processor if you are looking for core performance. It’s a very capable chip, especially when it comes to its single-core performance, while the 10-core configuration and the ability to go beyond 5GHz clock speeds are in itself commendable. The processor should easily last for a long time but make sure you pair this chip with a reliable cooler.
Clock speeds: 3.7GHz - 5.3GHz
10-Cores, 20 Threads
20MB L3 Cache
16 PCIe 3.0 lanes
95W TDP
$499
Buy from Amazon
Intel Core i9-11980HK​Intel recently introduced the new 11th-gen Tiger Lake-H processors for high-end gaming and workstation laptops. The series is headed by the Core i9-11980HK, which is now the most powerful mobile processor from Intel. The eight-core, 16-thread chip comes with a 5GHz maximum boost clock speed on one core and unlocked multipliers. While the chip is slowly reaching markets, early reviews are definitely positive. Expect new laptops with the Core i9-11980HK to reach mainstream laptops later this month.
Clock speeds: 3.3GHz - 5.0GHz
8-Cores, 16 Threads
24MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
45-65W TDP
Go for the Core i9-10900K as it offers the best performance package for the asking price. Agreed that the Core i9-10980XE offers higher cores, it is quite expensive, and it doesn't really justify the performance. Hopefully, Intel will introduce a new Extreme series this year that should trump the shortcomings of the existing Core i9-10980XE. Also, check out the best Intel processors that you should purchase for gaming.

Best Intel processors for gaming

Intel has always been a leader when it comes to gaming CPUs. But in the past year or so, AMD has pushed hard to give 'Team Blue' a tough competition, especially with its current line of Ryzen 5000 series processors. This does not mean that Intel is out of order; in fact, it still has some of the best gaming processors on the market at various price points. Earlier this year, the company launched its newest offering in the consumer space under the 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S series. While it isn't a solid jump from its predecessor, we expect the company to finally move away from its 14nm architecture with its 12th-gen Alder Lake series launch later this year.
Let's take a look at some of the best Intel processors that you should buy for gaming:
Intel Core i5-11600K​The latest 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S series of desktop CPUs turned out to be a tad bit disappointing as Intel held back on its top-tier options, specifically the Core i9-11900K. However, the Core i5-11600K has proven to be one of the best Intel processors for gaming. Featuring six cores and 12-threads, it offers the best performance to value ratio. In fact, it is cheaper than AMD’s similarly configured Ryzen 5 5600X and manages to produce equally good performance numbers. It is still based on Intel’s aging 14nm process; thus, it isn’t very power efficient, but with added support for PCIe 4.0, you can take advantage of faster SSDs and new-gen GPUs for wider data bandwidth. If you don’t care about high-core count and want a solid CPU for playing games at 1440p or 4K resolutions, this should not disappoint.
Clock speeds: 3.9GHz - 4.9GHz
6-Cores, 12 Threads
12MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
125W TDP
~$272
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Intel Core i9-10900K​As mentioned above, Intel’s latest top-of-the-line mainstream CPU under the 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S is not impressive. That’s because the Core i9-11900K cuts down on the total number of cores and threads compared to last year’s Core i9-10900K. For the sole reason, we recommend the Comet Lake-based Intel Core i9-10900K from last year as our recommendation of the best high-performance Intel gaming CPU. The arrival of AMD’s Zen 3-based Ryzen 5000 processors has given Intel a run for its money, but we can assure you that the 10-core, 20-thread configuration on the 10900K is going to last you for years to come. Do note that it is very power-hungry, and we suggest investing in a more powerful cooler and power supply.
Clock speeds: 3.7GHz - 5.3GHz
10-Cores, 20 Threads
20MB L3 Cache
16 PCIe 3.0 lanes
95W TDP
$499
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Intel Core i5-11400​If you are on a tight budget, then you should look at Intel’s new Core i5-11400. It is basically a more refined version of the 10400 from last year, an excellent budget CPU for gaming. One of the primary reasons for recommending this processor is that it doesn't have any solid competition from AMD apart from the two-year-old Ryzen 5 3600. Additionally, if you already have a GPU, you can go for the 11400F that offers equally good performance minus an integrated GPU. The CPU is also proven to perform great in single-threaded work, and with support for memory overclocking and tinkering with power limits, the chip is also great for enthusiasts. It is one of the few CPUs to come with a stock cooler, but if you plan to push its limits, we recommend a good third-party cooler.
Clock speeds: 2.6GHz - 4.4GHz
6-Cores, 12 Threads
12MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
65W TDP
$182
Buy from Amazon
These are some of the best Intel processors available today for gamers. Before you head out and buy one, note that it isn't always wise to go for the highest core count or clock speeds. Higher clock speeds are usually good for simpler tasks, like gaming, while a higher core count usually helps you in accomplishing tasks that take a longer time, or for better multitasking. Considering that the GPU is responsible for gaming more than the processor, it is advised not to overspend on your processor rather save for a better GPU.
kunalneo said:
Intel has always been a leader when it comes to gaming CPUs. But in the past year or so, AMD has pushed hard to give 'Team Blue' a tough competition, especially with its current line of Ryzen 5000 series processors. This does not mean that Intel is out of order; in fact, it still has some of the best gaming processors on the market at various price points. Earlier this year, the company launched its newest offering in the consumer space under the 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S series. While it isn't a solid jump from its predecessor, we expect the company to finally move away from its 14nm architecture with its 12th-gen Alder Lake series launch later this year.
Let's take a look at some of the best Intel processors that you should buy for gaming:
Intel Core i5-11600K​The latest 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S series of desktop CPUs turned out to be a tad bit disappointing as Intel held back on its top-tier options, specifically the Core i9-11900K. However, the Core i5-11600K has proven to be one of the best Intel processors for gaming. Featuring six cores and 12-threads, it offers the best performance to value ratio. In fact, it is cheaper than AMD’s similarly configured Ryzen 5 5600X and manages to produce equally good performance numbers. It is still based on Intel’s aging 14nm process; thus, it isn’t very power efficient, but with added support for PCIe 4.0, you can take advantage of faster SSDs and new-gen GPUs for wider data bandwidth. If you don’t care about high-core count and want a solid CPU for playing games at 1440p or 4K resolutions, this should not disappoint.
Clock speeds: 3.9GHz - 4.9GHz
6-Cores, 12 Threads
12MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
125W TDP
~$272
Buy from Amazon
Intel Core i9-10900K​As mentioned above, Intel’s latest top-of-the-line mainstream CPU under the 11th-gen Rocket Lake-S is not impressive. That’s because the Core i9-11900K cuts down on the total number of cores and threads compared to last year’s Core i9-10900K. For the sole reason, we recommend the Comet Lake-based Intel Core i9-10900K from last year as our recommendation of the best high-performance Intel gaming CPU. The arrival of AMD’s Zen 3-based Ryzen 5000 processors has given Intel a run for its money, but we can assure you that the 10-core, 20-thread configuration on the 10900K is going to last you for years to come. Do note that it is very power-hungry, and we suggest investing in a more powerful cooler and power supply.
Clock speeds: 3.7GHz - 5.3GHz
10-Cores, 20 Threads
20MB L3 Cache
16 PCIe 3.0 lanes
95W TDP
$499
Buy from Amazon
Intel Core i5-11400​If you are on a tight budget, then you should look at Intel’s new Core i5-11400. It is basically a more refined version of the 10400 from last year, an excellent budget CPU for gaming. One of the primary reasons for recommending this processor is that it doesn't have any solid competition from AMD apart from the two-year-old Ryzen 5 3600. Additionally, if you already have a GPU, you can go for the 11400F that offers equally good performance minus an integrated GPU. The CPU is also proven to perform great in single-threaded work, and with support for memory overclocking and tinkering with power limits, the chip is also great for enthusiasts. It is one of the few CPUs to come with a stock cooler, but if you plan to push its limits, we recommend a good third-party cooler.
Clock speeds: 2.6GHz - 4.4GHz
6-Cores, 12 Threads
12MB L3 Cache
20 PCIe 4.0 lanes
65W TDP
$182
Buy from Amazon
These are some of the best Intel processors available today for gamers. Before you head out and buy one, note that it isn't always wise to go for the highest core count or clock speeds. Higher clock speeds are usually good for simpler tasks, like gaming, while a higher core count usually helps you in accomplishing tasks that take a longer time, or for better multitasking. Considering that the GPU is responsible for gaming more than the processor, it is advised not to overspend on your processor rather save for a better GPU.
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I think for the money the i9 10850k is a better option than the 10900 as long as you're not concerned about pci gen 4
I am looking for user of a Core-i7 990x 5-6Ghz 24GB fastest RAM.
GTX470+GTX980ACX2.0 Overcloked
OCZ 240GByte PCI 3.0 SSD 2000MByte/s
Check AMD for my 2 other servers JimDijkstra86NL aKa Jimmy ;-D
I know shes old but she was gold I7-2600k. Still using mine OC'd from day1 with a H70. daily 4.5Ghz 24/7 bought right after Ivy Bridge release for price reasons. Updated my graphic to 1060 6g and running it in only 2 lanes with Sandy and have yet to have issues in games. Well depending on what i set Horizon 5 to it will be crushed. H5 is very demanding GPU wise.
The best menu for CPU means fastest chip, which speed up your device. Now a days there are many best intel processors for gaming.
For intel series I would recommend 12th Gen 12400 for gaming under Budget
Really would like to have 1 that OC'd like Sandy u didn't hardly need to do much of anything to hit 4.5,4.6. Slap good ram in and a good water cooler and rock and roll time
Why are there no i7s on this list? A xx700 has plenty of power. I would argue an i9 is way overkill for most gamers.
"Best" is also a subjective term. Ideally, you want a combination of CPU, motherboard, RAM, and GPU where each compliments the other. If you're running a 3080 Ti on an i5, you're probably not going to get the maximum performance out of the GPU. This is called "bottlenecking".
ALL Intel CPUs were very good performers once starting with the first i5/i7. I still see people pushing hex-core Westmere-EP Xeons like X5672 to 4 GHz with surprising results for an 11-year-old CPU!
The best processor for gaming would be Intel Core i5 12600K.
The Core i5 12600K is the standout processor for gamers because it not only offers great gaming performance across the board, but it does so at a price point that isn't going to reduce you to tears. It not only beats the similarly priced 5600X in pretty much every game, but it outperforms the $750 Ryzen 9 5950X in plenty of tests too. That it soundly beats the Core i9 11900K is just the icing on the cake. Not bad for a $320 mid-range chip.

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