Camera comparison vs S6 - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, I'm currently using a galaxy S5 and looking for an upgrade to either a Note 4 or S6. I don't really care much about any other things as the two are both very good phones, only camera. Spec wise they are not THAT different, just a better f/1.9 lens on the S6 compared to f/2.2 lens of the Note 4, other specs remain the same. So theoretically the images from the S6 should be a little bit better than the note 4 in extreme cases (very low light for instance), and generally the same for most situations. But somehow I've read reviews that put the Note 4's camera output to be a tad better than the S6 (gsmarena's review for example), and I just don't know why. Is there any reason behind that or something I missed? Thanks in advance!

Master619 said:
Hi all, I'm currently using a galaxy S5 and looking for an upgrade to either a Note 4 or S6. I don't really care much about any other things as the two are both very good phones, only camera. Spec wise they are not THAT different, just a better f/1.9 lens on the S6 compared to f/2.2 lens of the Note 4, other specs remain the same. So theoretically the images from the S6 should be a little bit better than the note 4 in extreme cases (very low light for instance), and generally the same for most situations. But somehow I've read reviews that put the Note 4's camera output to be a tad better than the S6 (gsmarena's review for example), and I just don't know why. Is there any reason behind that or something I missed? Thanks in advance!
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Use Mobile DxOMark and find the S6/Note 4 and compare why one is better than the other hardware/software wise.

Gsmarena did do a blind test by readers and note 4 won, except for night shots
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Both the same generally but S6 much better in low light.
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S6 win.
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galaxy note 4 on the left side,s6 edge on the right side
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both of them taken by me

From what I have seen the Note 4 seems to have a much better camera. But that is due to the fact that the SGS6 uses either Samsung's own isocell or Sony's Xemar senor. Which is makes it a potshot as to which one of those you would get on your SGS6/S6Edge.

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Note 3 vs Note 2 camera quality

Does anyone use a Note 2 prior to Note 3?
I'm interested in the quality of Note 3's camera relative to the Note 2. I've seen reviews saying that for outdoor pictures, the Note 3 quality is very good. But indoor is OK at best. To me the Note 2 camera has sufficient quality for my use both indoor and outdoor. So I'm interested in how the Note 3 camera performs when compared to Note 2's.
Thanks in advance.
Ngambek2003 said:
Does anyone use a Note 2 prior to Note 3?
I'm interested in the quality of Note 3's camera relative to the Note 2. I've seen reviews saying that for outdoor pictures, the Note 3 quality is very good. But indoor is OK at best. To me the Note 2 camera has sufficient quality for my use both indoor and outdoor. So I'm interested in how the Note 3 camera performs when compared to Note 2's.
Thanks in advance.
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From the various reviews I've seen, the camera on the Note 3 is only bested by the Note 2 in low lighting situations. The Note 2 had a "night mode" which helped in low light. The Note 3 does not have this mode and the reviewers say it suffers because of it. However the PhoneArena review suggested to turn on Stabilization in low light which helped the Note 3 achieve better pictures under those conditions.
I have both phones and the Note3 camera is the better one in all conditions Sharper with more details and more natural colors
rikken said:
I have both phones and the Note3 camera is the better one in all conditions Sharper with more details and more natural colors
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The very first pic i took with my phone, just so random, but my note 2 cant just do this without blurring or faded colours
brugernavn said:
The very first pic i took with my phone, just so random, but my note 2 cant just do this without blurring or faded colours
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Glad to hear that there's good things about the real world usage of the Note 3.
Now,...I'm just hungry.
Here you go, Note 3 v/s Note 2
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Note 3
Note II
Not much of a difference.
and lighting faster....
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Not much of a difference.
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Note 3 color is much constant and vibrant and sharpen, but it is just a slightly.
The important point here is Note 3 camera focus speedy fast, I can much more easier capturing compare with Note II.
The low light capability of the Note 3 camera is much worse then Note 2. I hope that a camera FW update will fix this. But I think that it is more of a sensor thing. ..?
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K Zoom vs Note 4 camera quality

Dear All,
I have bought the K zoom and was very happy with it. Now i have compared the camera quality with a friends Note 4 and noticed that the note 4 makes much more detailed pictures. Is this normal for a phone which is most focused on a camera? Of course the note does not win when competing to 10x optical zoom and xeon flash. But all other pictures, the note 4 wins always.
Can i do something do make the best detailed pictures?
Thx.
Any updates here? I have Galaxy K adn Note 4 Edge and yes Note 4 really produces better picture quality than the zoom

Its great now ..Only if we had these hardware options This would be The Best device f

Bump the 5x to 64g storage and or expandable SD slot 1 more gig of ram and a f1.7 apature camera with possibly samsungs dual pixel technology and amoled display and I'd keep this phone for 2 years maybe more .
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You need to look for comparisons nexus 5x vs samsung galaxy s6 or s7. The nexus camera is somewhere inbetween them but def better than galaxy s6 (i owned s6 previously)
I agree that the 5x camera produced better images than the s6. Pictures from the s6 turned out yellow a lot of the times when shooting indoors.
joemanbui said:
I agree that the 5x camera produced better images than the s6. Pictures from the s6 turned out yellow a lot of the times when shooting indoors.
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In Android Authority's review of the Galaxy S7, Joshua said that his Nexus 6p produced better quality images in low light than the Galaxy S7 (6p and 5x have both the very same camera).
Silvers91 said:
In Android Authority's review of the Galaxy S7, Joshua said that his Nexus 6p produced better quality images in low light than the Galaxy S7 (6p and 5x have both the very same camera).
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Nice to hear thx for the input. I love this camera
I've got Nexus 5X, my friend has S6.
We did some camera tests, and came to the same conclusion about which is better:
It depends. Some of the daylight shots looked brighter on S6, but with less saturated colours. Nexus likes darkness and vivid colours, which tickles my fancy more intensively than S6's shooting style does. On the other hand, low-light shots looked better on S6 just because it has OIS.
IMO, Nexus'es camera is as good as S6's, but the superiority of development on 5X floors S6 as a potential competition.
-woczarder- said:
I've got Nexus 5X, my friend has S6.
We did some camera tests, and came to the same conclusion about which is better:
It depends. Some of the daylight shots looked brighter on S6, but with less saturated colours. Nexus likes darkness and vivid colours, which tickles my fancy more intensively than S6's shooting style does. On the other hand, low-light shots looked better on S6 just because it has OIS.
IMO, Nexus'es camera is as good as S6's, but the superiority of development on 5X floors S6 as a potential competition.
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I've heard from people who do photo editing that the darker images are more desired because it's easier to brighten them up after and retain colour information.
However pictures that are taken bright as is the case with most smartphone cameras, will lose more information that can't be recovered afterwards.
Basically they say the 5x camera acts like a normal camera instead of a smartphone camera. Where as smartphone cameras are usually designed to have the picture look good right away on the phone's screen so brighter images are desired even if it means less accurate colours.

About Note 7 ports

Guys i see quite much Note 7 ports for S7 edge, Can someone guide me as to which one is more preferred because of stability and battery life? i am confused
First thing to do is to see if you have a samsung sensor or a Sony sensor. If it's a samsung one, I highly think it's not great to update to Note 7 port cause the photos will be awfull.
You could see what sensor you have with AIDA or Phone Info !
Grace UX will be port in the next update
I have the impression renovate is the best one. But personally i still use s7 edge rom because i can wait few weeks because i read on sammobile the nougat update for our s7 edge will bring most software features from the note 7 like improved aod and grace ux.
offtopic: is the samsung camera sensor worse then the sony one? under normal conditions?
I flashed Renovate rom. And it looks awesome. Loving it!
I have a screenshot attached. Which sensor is that?
ibrahimqureshae said:
I flashed Renovate rom. And it looks awesome. Loving it!
I have a screenshot attached. Which sensor is that?
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Thats Sammy Isocell (typically if you have exynos chip)
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dashrink said:
Thats Sammy Isocell (typically if you have exynos chip)
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So does that mean my photo quality wouldnt be good?
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So does that mean my photo quality wouldnt be good?
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Samsung Sensor was only bad on S6, on S7E it looks stunning. Before buying my S7 Edge I was playing with other phones cameras and the S7E had best image quality. Even compared to Xperia cameras (which I kinda dislike for image processing(amount of pixels is visible but only when You zoom in)) or LG G5 which once again other than huge viewing angle had quite poor colour-less photos. And it's not true that N7 ports will give You a bad camera. I've been using N7 ports for a while and they take same quality pictures like stock roms from sammobile.
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Samsung Sensor was only bad on S6, on S7E it looks stunning. Before buying my S7 Edge I was playing with other phones cameras and the S7E had best image quality. Even compared to Xperia cameras (which I kinda dislike for image processing(amount of pixels is visible but only when You zoom in)) or LG G5 which once again other than huge viewing angle had quite poor colour-less photos. And it's not true that N7 ports will give You a bad camera. I've been using N7 ports for a while and they take same quality pictures like stock roms from sammobile.
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I haven't tried any of them but numerous people have said if you have a Samsung sensor the photos come out like potato. Not because the sensor is bad but because the required libs for the Samsung sensor haven't been ported over properly.
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Samsung Sensor was only bad on S6, on S7E it looks stunning. Before buying my S7 Edge I was playing with other phones cameras and the S7E had best image quality. Even compared to Xperia cameras (which I kinda dislike for image processing(amount of pixels is visible but only when You zoom in)) or LG G5 which once again other than huge viewing angle had quite poor colour-less photos. And it's not true that N7 ports will give You a bad camera. I've been using N7 ports for a while and they take same quality pictures like stock roms from sammobile.
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Thanks for clearing it out
chieco said:
I have the impression renovate is the best one. But personally i still use s7 edge rom because i can wait few weeks because i read on sammobile the nougat update for our s7 edge will bring most software features from the note 7 like improved aod and grace ux.
offtopic: is the samsung camera sensor worse then the sony one? under normal conditions?
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No, under the normal conditions the samsungs sensor is slightly better
Galactus said:
I haven't tried any of them but numerous people have said if you have a Samsung sensor the photos come out like potato. Not because the sensor is bad but because the required libs for the Samsung sensor haven't been ported over properly.
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Well. On my phone pictures look really pretty.
(Tinypic compression slightly messed up the sharpness)

If You want to upgrade your S6E+ with a new phone to get better photos read this

Hello! :angel:
On the 19th of January 2018 marks the official launch of the new Samsung Galaxy A8 2018 edition. From that day forward You can easily buy that new phone and You mustn't go through any pre-order procedures anymore.
During my free time I jumped into a couple of stores to see if there is a worthy candidate to replace our beloved S6E+.
To be clear one thing with You right from the begging - I was only checking if the quality of the camera photos were better or worse in comparison to Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus.
Since there has been also other Samsung Galaxy phones in the stores I’ve visited - I’ve checked them too.
The results may come for You as a bit of a surprise.
Notice that the photo quality measurement was judged by myself only and it was always done indoors with much light in the room (no surprise here since it has been done in shopping centers).
If any of You is considering upgrading S6E+ to a newer model taking into consideration only the photo output of the camera please hold and see what was the verdict. Please read below.
So with no further ado, here are the results:
In all models, the HDR was set to AUTO, flash was always set to disabled.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
Winner = Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus and I might say it won easily. The S7 Edge has the biggest difference in photo quality of all the devices I’ve tested!
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018 edition)
Winner= Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. I’ve noticed that A8 tries to get better image quality impression by getting more brightness on the photos which is done automatically. In opposition to S7 Edge there is less difference in photo quality between the two compared models.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S8
Winner = TIE. S8 used automatic brightness adjustment to make photos look better. That was very hard to decide which was the real winner or looser in this one.
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S8+
Winner = Samsung Galaxy S8+ - again, automatic photo brightness adjustment makes the pictures taken by that phone better. There’s just a little little bit more sharpness in S8+ images.
Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs. Samsung Galaxy Note8
Winner = Samsung Galaxy Note8 – again, images are brighter but they are more sharper too. This is the first real threat to S6E+ and first very good candidate if you want to upgrade S6E+ only by pursuing a better photo quality. Note8 is on the the top of the mountain when it goes for camera picture quality!
Well, that’s pretty much it.
I hope I helped You with upgrade or no upgrade decisions.
Thank You for the time taken to read my post
Before You upgrade Your S6E+ to a newer Samsung to get better photos
please delete this reply Mr Admin.
My mistake. Sorry.
androidbadboy said:
please delete this reply Mr Admin.
My mistake. Sorry.
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Why do you want to delete? I agree with your opinion and I liked very much this thread. I'd like also add one thing: the number of pixels has a lot of importance when you see the pics in your pc, zoom on or, mainly, when you send them to your smartTV by smartconect. In these cases, S6 edge plus is much better than all of the others with a 16 Mp resolution in 16:9 format against only 12 Mp (4:3 format) and 9 Mp (16:9 format) of the S7, S8, note 8 etc. Remember: to see the true photo quality is not in the small oled screen of the phone (with a lot of artificial tricks and ppi) neither in Facebooks etc! Is in real life like in pc, smartTV or when you print them in paper and here, S6 edge plus photos are long steps ahead and are much better. Here you can see all artificial manipulations of the newer phones, like sharpening... Also that S6 is the only one that has the real and best resolution in 16:9 format perfectly adjusted to Tv's, pc screens etc - in 16 Mp! The maximum resolution in this format performed by S7 and S8, note 8 is only.... 9 Mp!!!! Almost HALF! hehe
For photography and camera in general, I don't swipe FOR SURE
flechinha said:
Why do you want to delete? I agree with your opinion and I liked very much this thread. I'd like also add one thing: the number of pixels has a lot of importance when you see the pics in your pc, zoom on or, mainly, when you send them to your smartTV by smartconect. In these cases, S6 edge plus is much better than all of the others with a 16 Mp resolution in 16:9 format against only 12 Mp (4:3 format) and 9 Mp (16:9 format) of the S7, S8, note 8 etc. Remember: to see the true photo quality is not in the small oled screen of the phone (with a lot of artificial tricks and ppi) neither in Facebooks etc! Is in real life like in pc, smartTV or when you print them in paper and here, S6 edge plus photos are long steps ahead and are much better. Here you can see all artificial manipulations of the newer phones, like sharpening... Also that S6 is the only one that has the real and best resolution in 16:9 format perfectly adjusted to Tv's, pc screens etc - in 16 Mp! The maximum resolution in this format performed by S7 and S8, note 8 is only.... 9 Mp!!!! Almost HALF! hehe
For photography and camera in general, I don't swipe FOR SURE
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1. I don't want to delete the whole topic, just the first reply to it (#2) cause I messed up something while changing the main topic title.
2. Thank You very much for Your input and kind words. I completely agree with your arguments.
3. BTW During my testing I was zooming after the photo was taken to see how the pixels appear. I compared the two devices: one phone in one hand, the other phone in the other hand and I've searched for differences in image quality.
androidbadboy said:
1. I don't want to delete the whole topic, just the first reply to it (#2) cause I messed up something while changing the main topic title.
2. Thank You very much for Your input and kind words. I completely agree with your arguments.
3. BTW During my testing I was zooming after the photo was taken to see how the pixels appear. I compared the two devices: one phone in one hand, the other phone in the other hand and I've searched for differences in image quality.
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Thank you for your words too.
For this comparison you need, AND MUST, have the both files of taken photos in these different phones compared in the same equipment with same screen as also with the same color and image treatment. As you know, the screens of these phones are very different in size, ratio, dpi, bright scale, color treatment (I think S8 and note 8 have hdr screen) etc.. As you said, was not the case, so that comparison isn't accurate. Any case and with no doubts, the zoom range admitted by phones for those pictures with less resolution (12 Mp) is lower in scale compared with zoom range reached with a 16 Mp photo, for not to see the weackness and imperfections. You'd see in maximum zoom range reached by S6 photos how would be the quality of S7, S8 and note photos - miserable!
At the end, take exactly the same scenario at the same time with these phones and, after that, take theses files to your PC with a accurate color screen in preference, zoom in and out and you'll see great differences in quality, highlighted S6 in comparison with all the others.
Also, there is someone here in xda who is a professional photographer that has made this comparison. His opinion is the same - S6 was the last with a true 16:9 and 16 Mp camera much better than following phones. We're talking about natural noise, sharpness and quality. S7 and following are very artificial in treatment, focused to AMOLED screens or low resolution app's like facebook, in that you can't notice the natural quality. Even for DxOMark, before he changed the rules caused by the 2 cameras fashion, S6 edge plus has the second best cell camera in the world, much better than S7 and iphones...
Best regards
flechinha said:
Thank you for your words too.
For this comparison you need, AND MUST, have the both files of taken photos in these different phones compared in the same equipment with same screen as also with the same color and image treatment. As you know, the screens of these phones are very different in size, ratio, dpi, bright scale, color treatment (I think S8 and note 8 have hdr screen) etc.. As you said, was not the case, so that comparison isn't accurate. Any case and with no doubts, the zoom range admitted by phones for those pictures with less resolution (12 Mp) is lower in scale compared with zoom range reached with a 16 Mp photo, for not to see the weackness and imperfections. You'd see in maximum zoom range reached by S6 photos how would be the quality of S7, S8 and note photos - miserable!
At the end, take exactly the same scenario at the same time with these phones and, after that, take theses files to your PC with a accurate color screen in preference, zoom in and out and you'll see great differences in quality, highlighted S6 in comparison with all the others.
Also, there is someone here in xda who is a professional photographer that has made this comparison. His opinion is the same - S6 was the last with a true 16:9 and 16 Mp camera much better than following phones. We're talking about natural noise, sharpness and quality. S7 and following are very artificial in treatment, focused to AMOLED screens or low resolution app's like facebook, in that you can't notice the natural quality. Even for DxOMark, before he changed the rules caused by the 2 cameras fashion, S6 edge plus has the second best cell camera in the world, much better than S7 and iphones...
Best regards
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Thank You for tones of great information.
I know that a precise test would have to be perform like that. I did it this way cause I didn't have access to the files of the phones in the stores for obvious reasons. The second thing is that people tend to judge the photo quality right out of the box shall we say. For example, 2 friends are taking pictures with their different phones and then compare the same object photographed by these phones by putting their devices near each other and judging by just looking at the phone's screen. That's what most people do when evaluating cameras and that's why I sort of did the same. I hope I saved our readers some time or gave them a bit information of what to expect out of the phones that I have compared.
With your information added I think we showed that our beloved Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus is still the king of the mountain.
PS. Which device dares to claim to be number one?
androidbadboy said:
Thank You for tones of great information.
I know that a precise test would have to be perform like that. I did it this way cause I didn't have access to the files of the phones in the stores for obvious reasons. The second thing is that people tend to judge the photo quality right out of the box shall we say. For example, 2 friends are taking pictures with their different phones and then compare the same object photographed by these phones by putting their devices near each other and judging by just looking at the phone's screen. That's what most people do when evaluating cameras and that's why I sort of did the same. I hope I saved our readers some time or gave them a bit information of what to expect out of the phones that I have compared.
With your information added I think we showed that our beloved Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus is still the king of the mountain.
PS. Which device dares to claim to be number one?
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Yeah you're right, people want to see and believe what they're are seeing in the moment, no matter the tricks or screens or etc. but for me, the most important is the real file of the photo that I can see, preserve and remind in the future in any equipment. Also when you need zoom a photo in a bigger TV screen, on where all the imperfections come out, a nice photo on the cellularphone can become tremendous here... Keep in mind this, for everybody the best cellphone photos of all the time were taken by nokia brand cellphones, mainly in the old N8 and lumias pureview. Unfortunately the Symbian OS and Windows phone OS didn't let this cellphones shine like they deserve... This is inquestionable but, in the moment in those TFT hd only screens, those weren't the best picture that someone could see...
About your question, sincerely I don't remember which one was considered the best one by DxOMark before new rules, I'm not sure if it was the pixel, but if you want to know, perhaps visiting his site and try to understand it. Unfortunately, also, DxOMark only started focusing in cellphones photography about a pair of years and never had the opportunity to test nokia models cause they are older
Regards
flechinha said:
Yeah you're right, people want to see and believe what they're are seeing in the moment, no matter the tricks or screens or etc. but for me, the most important is the real file of the photo that I can see, preserve and remind in the future in any equipment. Also when you need zoom a photo in a bigger TV screen, on where all the imperfections come out, a nice photo on the cellularphone can become tremendous here... Keep in mind this, for everybody the best cellphone photos of all the time were taken by nokia brand cellphones, mainly in the old N8 and lumias pureview. Unfortunately the Symbian OS and Windows phone OS didn't let this cellphones shine like they deserve... This is inquestionable but, in the moment in those TFT hd only screens, those weren't the best picture that someone could see...
About your question, sincerely I don't remember which one was considered the best one by DxOMark before new rules, I'm not sure if it was the pixel, but if you want to know, perhaps visiting his site and try to understand it. Unfortunately, also, DxOMark only started focusing in cellphones photography about a pair of years and never had the opportunity to test nokia models cause they are older
Regards
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Thanks again,
do you know his website, a contact or something?
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Thanks again,
do you know his website, a contact or something?
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Just Google it.

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