I guess i won't be getting NOTE 5.. - Galaxy Note5 General

"SamMobi/e states that both the Galaxy Note
5 and the Galaxy 56 edge Plus will feature
glass backs, much like the Galaxy 56 and the
56 edge. The Note 5 is expected to feature
the Exynos 7422 Soc, an update to the
Exynos 7420 with an integrated Shannon LTE
modem manufactured by Samsung. The
Exynos 7422 will be Samsung's first all-in-one
Soc, incorporating the CPU, GPU, RAM,
storage(UFS 2.0) and the LTE modem in a
single package. Considering that the UFS 2.0
standard uses its own memory controller,
Samsung may not provide a microsD card
slot on the Note 5 or the 56 edge Plus as that
would involve figuring out a way to integrate
two memory controllers."
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I was holding out fir a Note 5 but when the rumirs started about no storage or removable battery i picked up a Note 4

Agreed. I was all set on getting a Note 5 or waiting for a Note 6. Now i'll just have to wait for something comparable with an SD slot once i get tired of the Note 4. I really wish Samsung wasn't doing this. If i wanted an iPhone i would have simply bought an iPhone.
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JudasD said:
Agreed. I was all set on getting a Note 5 or waiting for a Note 6. Now i'll just have to wait for something comparable with an SD slot once i get tired of the Note 4. I really wish Samsung wasn't doing this. If i wanted an iPhone i would have simply bought an iPhone.
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So true...
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Agreed. It's off my list if there is no external memory and removable battery. I know quite a few people that jumped to iPhone instead of the S6 for the same reason. Shame. What once made the Galaxy stand apart is now no longer a selling point.

I'm surely buying one. But not going to be my favorite. I keep other phones for flash fun. Like s4. Nexus. Etc. I have no problems with buying with no battery removable or sd if it was all I had then yeah.
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Been on a China elephone kick. China is putting out killer devices for around 180
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All of my phones have been Samsung for the last 5 years. It's probably healthier to see what else is out there anyway. It's possible there might be a silver lining to this.
JD

Well i learned my lesson the hard way and will stay with samsung. I tried everything from the lg g3 and to the nexus 6 to the m8 to the g flex 2 . If you need everything to work right samsung delivers .g3 was a good phone too The other phones had deal breakers i couldn't settle with. I tried to avoid the note 4 thinking it was gonna be like the note 3 i had . Not even close. Only way i don't get a note 5 phone is Unless Huawei or sony release a flagship phone for sprint . Those the only 2 brands i haven't tried yet that's worth trying.

I have no problem with the lack of microSD slot or removable battery IF the battery can be replaced at a shop (or do it yourself). Batteries don't last forever. I had a battery in my S3 fail and start expanding just a few weeks ago.

Sprint usually requests a sd slot in its build orders, but those days may be over.....If this rumor does come true and the N5 lacks a sd slot and no removable battery I too will look to another brand, just wish Sony and Sprint could come to some deal.......

I definitely won't get it if it doesn't have an sd card. I'm perfectly content with the Note 4 for now. We'll see what other manufacturers come out with. No Sd, no money from me.

Waiting impatiently for my note 5. http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/10/we-never-said-the-galaxy-note-5-wont-have-a-microsd-slot/

I just got the Note 4 about 2 months ago and truly love it, especially the camera. Note 5? Blah.

I like new phone's. Don't look back. No buyers remorse at all lol.

No removable sd isn't that big a deal to me. For saving backups and rom zips, USB otg works just fine. Get a model with a lot of storage. My nexus 7(2013) is a rom flashing beast and doesn't have either of these (removable sd/or battery).

I'd love to get a note 5, if it had removable storage, but I think I may hold off for Project Ara to release. Then no one can tell me what my phone has to have.
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I think battery pull and sd card is essential, especially when you get those boot freezes..gotta pull that **** lol
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Edit. I decided that my rant was premature. Though, some of it was completely valid. But on a different note. No pun intended.

Note 5 doomsday prepped lol

http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-note-5-specs-leak-anew-4gb-ram-5-mp-ois-front-cam-13392801/
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Note 5 and S6+

Got to play with both today! The note 5 stylus is spring loaded and more hidden. Both have the same design as the s6. Glass front and back. Beyond that... It's essentially the same specs as the s6 with very minor improvements.
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Ok, what was the point to release new note 5, if there is no big difference? Any new features like eye scan or maybe faster and better fingerprint recognition?
Worst new feature is no SD card support
This means I will never buy the Note 5.
Well, I for one think that the Note 5 not having any major changes from the Note 4 is a good thing. Why? Because you don't have to spend more money on a new phone, and if you can't afford a new phone, you don't have to feel like you're missing out on the newest gadget.
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Got to play with both today! The note 5 stylus is spring loaded and more hidden. Both have the same design as the s6. Glass front and back. Beyond that... It's essentially the same specs as the s6 with very minor improvements.
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So do they have fixed batteries, what size, and no sd? Is the screen better than the note 4? Are they identical processors and memory?
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If there's root for either of those 2 I'm getting it. Bye bye note 4
It's pretty much the s6 but bigger. Internal battery and same design. I have no idea about the SD card but I'm going to assume no. The rep has stated many times after the s6 launch that they had no plans of bring the SD card option back. Which I'm glad for. I worked at a repair center for years and 2 of the biggest problems we had were from people using 3rd party batteries and using an old SD card from their original epic or evo. Simply taking out the old SD card fixed nearly all their problems then switching their battery out with an OEM battery fixed everything else. Bad aftermarket battery's can and will cause your phone to freeze/lock up and perform power cycles. Usually after only a few minutes use. Using an old or class 4 or below SD card can and will lock your phone up and/or cause power cycles. Sucks the rest are being punished but its a very tiny community that even uses all of 32gb of the internal storage before getting a new phone or just the few bucks extra and get the 64gb model. Faster more stable form of storage.
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It's pretty much the s6 but bigger. Internal battery and same design. I have no idea about the SD card but I'm going to assume no. The rep has stated many times after the s6 launch that they had no plans of bring the SD card option back. Which I'm glad for. I worked at a repair center for years and 2 of the biggest problems we had were from people using 3rd party batteries and using an old SD card from their original epic or evo. Simply taking out the old SD card fixed nearly all their problems then switching their battery out with an OEM battery fixed everything else. Bad aftermarket battery's can and will cause your phone to freeze/lock up and perform power cycles. Usually after only a few minutes use. Using an old or class 4 or below SD card can and will lock your phone up and/or cause power cycles. Sucks the rest are being punished but its a very tiny community that even uses all of 32gb of the internal storage before getting a new phone or just the few bucks extra and get the 64gb model. Faster more stable form of storage.
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So you got hands on both of the but didn't notice a lack of SD card port?
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So you got hands on both of the but didn't notice a lack of SD card port?
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Exactly.
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Wow so no SD cards anymore?! As much as I love my note 4 I'm basically going to have to in the future look elsewhere to another brand that uses micro sd. Sorry Samsung but if I wanted an iPhone I would've bought one. So what are the choices when it comes to memory?
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The internal memory is sooooo much faster than even a class 10 SD card. Why not pony up for the 64 GB version and be done? Unless you like to keep several HD Blu-Ray rips or a plethora of high-end games on your phone, I can't imagine running out of space with 64 GB. I have a playlist of about 1000 songs, most at 256 kbps, and it uses about 9 gigs. Still lots of room when you have 64 gigs. Just my $0.02.
There are new pictures on verge. Basically a note 4 with a new frame. Honestly I can't see why i would move from a note 4 to a note 5. Cost for the equivalent of what I have, of based on s6 prices, is $1k. Better to get a g4 (for around $480 today) or keep the note 4.
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Oh and to be fair.. The rep said he could not confirm that the device I was holding was a note 5. He said he couldn't say what the real name was. He called the phone without edges "project noble" it could be the galaxy s6+. The other device was definitely/obviously the s6 edge+. Which he also couldn't confirm on the name. With both devices having the same exact design and same specs as the s6 then the note 5 could be a completely other device yet seen.
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Demodave said:
The internal memory is sooooo much faster than even a class 10 SD card. Why not pony up for the 64 GB version and be done? Unless you like to keep several HD Blu-Ray rips or a plethora of high-end games on your phone, I can't imagine running out of space with 64 GB. I have a playlist of about 1000 songs, most at 256 kbps, and it uses about 9 gigs. Still lots of room when you have 64 gigs. Just my $0.02.
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yeah but comparing the SD card in your phone is like comparing a USB drive to a computer. I'm constantly exchanging music, videos, pictures, and large size files with other devices, and friends. I also move gigs of files to and from my computer. I just pop out the SD card and place it in my other device, the SD card slot in my laptop, my tablet, etc.
also if worse comes to worse and I brick my phone, its the SD card that'll save me when I transfer a recovery to it.
the truth of it is there's no other solution that works nearly as well as having an SD card. and if you're someone like me whos on the go, and hardly ever touches a PC, SD card is so important.
I also trust my SD card much more.. if my phone were to break or get wet, everything inside is ruined, but if my pictures are on an SD card, while my phone is gone, my precious memories aren't.
SD card 4 life!
(also the Note series is a PRODUCTIVITY line, how could they ever scrap such a crucial thing for power users, and business travelers..)
no sd card and no removable battery. Definitely deal breaker. I am going to keep my note 4 for a long time.
They make USB drives for phones now. They have 2 ends. A micro USB end and a regular USB end for that exact reason. Way more reliable than an SD card.
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My Samsung rep brought both devices in today and the edge device had a stylus. More than likely will be the note edge not the s6 edge plus. The rep told me with his time with these devices his battery life is about double the battery life of the s6. Definitely looking forward to this new note
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stevenj05 said:
If there's root for either of those 2 I'm getting it. Bye bye note 4
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Totally agree, i would imagine that if a permanent trustworthy non-chinese root method is attained on the Note 5 within first couple months of release then it will be definitely worth it, otherwise, I am dumping Samsung Note 4 and Galaxy Tab Pro for good, hello Moto or Huawei Nexus.
It's not samsung fault for lack of sd card support,
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-SD-Card-Nexus-Smartphone,18841.html
But my next phone will probably be the sony xperia z3, since the z3+ doesn't have lte and I haven't seen anyone add the band's for att lte to it successfully yet
Also to the op,I used both phones, how did you not notice if there was or was not an SD card and how did you not notice the back of the note 5? It's not the same as the 6
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They make USB drives for phones now. They have 2 ends. A micro USB end and a regular USB end for that exact reason. Way more reliable than an SD card.
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Because that's much easier to keep plugged in at all times.
The new iNote sounds like garbage.
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Galaxy Note 5

I love the sleek new look Samsung has i dont care what anyone thinks sd card slot or not removable battery or not i think its well made!https://youtu.be/wJWj7rGj3uY
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I'll stick with my note 4
Im confused.. WHICH loyal fans were they listening to??? Note 4 > Note 5
It looks terrific to me, although I was hoping it would have a 7422 instead of a 7420. I never upgrade right away, though. I always wait until the price comes down. By that time, we'll know if it turned out to be a error in judgement on design or a lemon of a phone.
Geezio said:
I love the sleek new look Samsung has i dont care what anyone thinks sd card slot or not removable battery or not i think its well made!https://youtu.be/wJWj7rGj3uY
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Glad to see you will be happy with your isamsungphone. Good luck with that.
Very nice device.. But no thanks, I'll keep my Note4. ?
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Very nice device.. But no thanks, I'll keep my Note4. ?
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Yeah agreed it looks nice but that's about it. It's more of a downgrade to me.
However.... I will buy one and if I don't like it I will go back to the note 4.
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All I saw was a very well made iPhone with an S-pen...or is it an I-pen?? I get confused ?! @xxSTARBUCKSxx I'm with you on that....which loyal fans!
http://i.imgur.com/yAQKBCY.jpg
I was pretty much following it for kicks and giggles, just to keep track. I'm only a year into my Note4, which means I won't upgrade till Note 6ish anyway.
Put it in a case and it becomes a sub par Note 4
Note 4 all the way. I'll wait for something better.
If for any reason I would want to get the note 5, it would be because of the wireless charge fast charging. But it looks like sprint might be dropping spark, only LTE?
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Same screen resolution, smaller battery with no Micro SD. I don't understand the direction Samsung is headed. Every phone I have ever had people complain about battery life. What's the solution with a internal battery? Constantly tethered to the wall or a huge ridiculous case with an extra external power source built in? Fail Sammy, fail.
I dont understand so many threads about this note 5 in a note 4 forum. I mean, personally im waiting for the new nexus device, im not going to make a thread in the note 4 forum tho.
Should probably take it to the note 5 forum instead.
Just my 2 cents.
It's one of the best ? out there
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The screen off memo feature would be nice to see ported. Not a ton makes me want note 5 over note 4...
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The screen off memo feature would be nice to see ported. Not a ton makes me want note 5 over note 4...
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Yep that's pretty neat for sure.
There are a lot of things I like about the Note 5, and you CAN get a 128 GB model for Sprint, contrary to what many websites are saying. But I'm still not going to upgrade. Maybe when the prices drop, but I'll probably wait to see what the Note 6 is like. I never swap my battery and I don't care about missing the microSD card. I'd rather have the UFS 2.0 storage, so those things aren't holding me back. I'm just happy with my Note 4.
Well.. I like doing a battery pull when things get iffy. As far as having an SD card slot or not is not really a big deal to me. I have a Samsung 32g SD card now that's not even 1/3 full. Between Sirius /XM and Pandora I don't download a lot of music. I use my SD card for pictures and my necessary rooting/modding files. And with having a "cloud" to store stuff and thumb drives and USB cables the storage will still be endless. As with all other tech.. It evolves. My 2 cents..
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Same screen resolution, smaller battery with no Micro SD. I don't understand the direction Samsung is headed. Every phone I have ever had people complain about battery life. What's the solution with a internal battery? Constantly tethered to the wall or a huge ridiculous case with an extra external power source built in? Fail Sammy, fail.
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Note followers never complained about built quality because our phones stay in cases. Galaxy followers wanted a android iphone so samsung gave it to them . But why didn't they just have a regular version with sd and removable battery and one with a higher built quality and they could have ditched the s6 plus idea until the s7 plus . That would of worked 4 months ago. Owell I'll get the s6 plus and if i don't like it wife might have a new phone. Note 5 don't do nothing for me atleast the s6plus bring something different. I'll see what apple do before i dive in they might surprise me but every year a disappointment.

Note 5 Disappointment

Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
tbparkey said:
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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Note5 will get rooted and roms.. even tw roms. Sad times for note4 verizon owners :/
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
tbparkey said:
Hardware specs
Samsung Exynos 7 octa-core processor
32GB/64GB storage options 4GB of RAM
3,000mAh battery (non-removable)
No microSD expansion slot
Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
No usb-c
My only question is WHY?
Why smaller non-removable battery?
Why no microSD?
Why no usb-c?
Why not just keep my Note 4?
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It's not even a true Octa-core processor, it's two quad core....
But yes I won't b upgrading.... Hopefully us Note 4 users get more then temp root or a temp root in 5.1.1 in time
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tbparkey said:
That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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It shouldn't b since at blackhat, they announce the exploit used for ping-pong root on the Galaxy S6, so wouldn't suprised me if it's patched on 5.1.1 on the Note 5...
Tho I'm sure they will find another exploit and will have full root, not temp root like the Note 4 (due to the WP on different processors) tho I could b wrong
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I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M
IR Blaster is gone too. Man... I use my IR blaster daily for chromecast and TV. WTF Samsung?
This is a turning point for Samsung. I think sales will plunge as there is no compelling reason to buy these phones...SOS.
I've known for a while now that the Note4 DevEd would be my last Samsung. The Note5 looks disappointing to me as well. What makes anybody think the Note5 will get root if the Note4 didn't? I am wondering what the LG G4 Pro Note or whatever it's called is all about. It supposedly has 32-64 gigs internal, 3 gigs ram, sd slot, removable battery, and a pen. I'd love to be able to leave Samsung behind and still have a stylus!
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I think they conceded the rest of this year to Apple and are going to try to regroup for next year.
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yeah, note 5 is garbage. def sticking with my 4. next phone for me will be a nexus i think.
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That remains to be seen. Why would the Note 5 be easier to root?
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samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)
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samsung cpu's from what I saw get exploited pretty fast (same with s6/s6e)
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If the N5 gets perm root then that would be the only compelling reason to give up my N4. I would still lament the loss of the ir blaster, removable battery and sd card.
Not if they have write protection like the Note 4!
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it better be alot cheaper, if all those features are gone.
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I've been on the note band wagon since the note2. But I'm out, Samsung let me down. Nothing compelling for a note 4 user to upgrade. To boot we never got root on the Verizon note 4. So low hopes for root on vz note 5. I think sales will be low on this phone. I'm not paying full price for this phone, I'll upgrade to something else.
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No removable battery
No SD card
No IR sensor ( I turn on my tv, cable box, and room air conditioner with my note4 - its great )
No Android M
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I'm with you on this. The note 5 is a step backward, not forward. When my 4 reaches it's 'recycle to another family member' point, I'll either find the next logical successor-
...or just go back to a flip phone and carry around a handy tablet. There are always ways to get what we want.
If the note 5 gets root I'm definitely getting it. I still have my note 2. I didn't think the note 3 was enough of an upgrade and since the note 4 didn't get root I didn't want it, not even the developer edition, but if that is an option for the 5 I may go that route.
I don't care about the sd card since there is a 64GB version and possibly even a 128.
I don't care about the removable battery either. I can charge my phone almost any time I want and have no need to see how long it can last on a single charge, and in all of the years I've owned a smartphone I've only needed to replace a battery once.
If the Note 5 came in a 128 gb variant and was rootable I might honestly overlook all the other things they took away. But as of now there is no 128 gb option and it is not rootable to our knowledge, and since the Note 4 has never been rooted (on Verizon) I have very little reason to think that the Verizon Note 5 will be rootable. Because of this I will likely get the upcoming Moto X pure or LG G4 pro/note this fall. My Note 3 is fine for now, although almost 2 years old.
There will be no 128gb option for the Note 5 nor the GS6 plus.
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I don't see why it is set in stone that there will never be a 128gb option, but I also am not overly hopeful that there will. Still don't think it is impossible that Samsung ends up offering a 128gb N5 down the line. Unless there is some kind of hardware issue that truly makes it not possible.
If the LG G4 Pro turns out to be the next Nexus phone I will be on it like a bum on a baloney sandwich!

Top 5 MAJOR Flaws Of The Galaxy Note 5!

I have to say that I was pretty hyped about this device while watching the unpacked event. Then again I am always stoked when new devices are announced and released I am just a tech nerd I guess. I am not hating on this device. In fact I have already pre-ordered mine, and at full price so I can keep my Verizon unlimited data however there are several flaws present in this device. These flaws are especially true if you are upgrading from a device like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4.
What do you guys think? Are these flaws enough to keep you away from the Note 5? I mean it still has plenty going for it. Revamped premium design, great screen, great camera, SPEN, Samsung Pay, wireless fast charging and the list goes on and on.
Coming from an LG G2, it's a clear upgrade across the board. I dont even fill up my current 32GB so the 64GB note 5 I have preordered should be more than enough space.
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
It is a great video and those are not a deterrence to me coming from a S4. Hopefully I will get to see his next video on why to get the Note 5. At this point I might consider the Note 4 just to save money. Either one is a big upgrade for me.
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Honestly. People say that a lot..but it's wrong. It has most of the Note features that were on the 3 and 4, but the software is completely different. It's more like the s6.
Hardware is completely different too. It has the s6 hardware with more ram. I'm not sure why people think it's just a note 4 in a new body. It's far from that.
Not saying there isn't a level of disappointment. .there definitely is, only for different reasons. If I was coming from the Note 4 straight to the 5 without a 4 month pit stop on the s6, I'd be stoked. Problem is, I have the s6 and this is basically that with the spen features added. The Note line used to be a bigger upgrade over the previous S version. This year it's not.
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Well, the guy has to get his hands on the phone to do a review right?
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
Maybe the trend has changed and the Galaxy S series is the phone to get the newest changes first. Seems to me with the S6 Samsung threw it against the wall and it stuck. It sold lots of phones and maybe for the more mainstream users the Note 5 will sell a ton. I think Samsung Note line was getting stale and needed an update. Heck if Samsung wasn't trying all this weird stuff with devices who knows where the smartphone market would be.
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
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I am hardly a sheep. Vote with your wallet and Samsung will get the message. The way I see it the new S6 design sold well so they figured they could capitalize on it with the Note 5. If they don't sell many the Note 6 may be different. If you don't like it buy another device this round. Seems that SD card slots and spare batteries are gonna be a thing of the past whether we like it or not.
By the way no disrespect to Rootjunky. He is great for the community but at this point everything is speculation.
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As far as we know, the S6 doesn't meet the expectations of Samsung in terms of sales.
I think, the Note 5 we are seeing is simply the result of decisions take a moment ago , regardless of the sales of S6.
I don't think there was anyway Samsung was going to keep increasing market share in the Android world. Probably why they have toyed around with Tizen. The flood of cheap phones from so many manufacturers was bound to happen with an open ecosystem. I think they figured that out a long time ago. They want to be the premium android manufacturer and not play in the low price war. They were probably smart and would have lost more market share if they had kept producing plastic, me too kind of devices. That's also the same reason they've always pushed all their special features (or bloat) Try to get you locked into something like Apple does. It just doesn't work unless the operating system is locked down and you control it.
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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DroidModderX did the video LOL and yes I did pre-order the device and it arrives Tuesday. I think this device will be great, but i believe it is my job to weigh the pros and the cons of these devices.
I only have 3 major flaws but they are all deal breakers:
-no IR
-no 128GB
-Not available in the Netherlands
Other disappointments:
-small and non removable battery
-fragile build materials
-same processor as s6
-same camera as s6
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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well the MicroSD is just the trade off for going with UFS 2.0. The memory controller doesn't natively support SDcards, so in order to have an SD card slot the phone would have to use eMMC 5.0/5.1 memory controller (which also supports SDcards), or add in a 2nd memory controller just to control the microSD slot. Which is a lot of PCB and headache just for a microSD slot, and i'm not sure if the Exynos 7420 would even allow you to use 2 different memory controllers at once, so i'm not even sure if you COULD just throw in another memory controller, even if you found space for it.
Basically, UFS 2.0 as the memory controller currently stands just doesn't support microSD, the next iteration of the UFS controller could potentially add microsd support, but I wouldnt count on it either.
As for the IR blaster, likely a space issue, but only samsung would know on that one.
hypersonicx said:
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
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You do know that the S6 edge has the exact same cpu and camera, right? The only thing thats upgraded is the memory. You were already on cutting edge.
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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So what?
anyone can buy an a mediocre product. The thing is, it will disappoint and will no longer make you happy every day like the its predecessors did. Especially if it is grossly overpriced.
yes, for the majority of us, it would be insane to buy galaxy note 5, especially for its price.
but some people could, it's their choice.
i, personally, will vote with my wallet, and will advice AGAINST buying samsung products in my community.
Thanks for the correction. I don't know why I confuse those guys.
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I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?
topcorner said:
I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?
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While I can only speak of myself, I repurchased a note 4 for a few reasons. I had a s6 for a few months and it was ok. I kept missing features from the note series and also considered waiting till the note 5 came to Europe. However, I decided that I really needed a device with a removable battery and the sd card slot is a huge help. Battery life is a high priority for me and the note 4 can deliver that, it has fast charging, can add wireless and most of all, I can carry an extra battery.
The 64bit SOC isnt the standard yet, so its not a big deal atleast for another few years.
I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?
I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.
Note 5 has not got lag at all and you would feel the screen improvement too. Note 5 is better from note 4 in global.
BUT someone who's got Note 4 can be disappointed in many ways.
Just for comparison you can sell N4 for 330 and buy new N5 for 450 in England which is not a big deal for a new NOTE
My opinion: I'll stay with my N4
Neo3D said:
I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?
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On both note 4's that I have owned, I never had a GPS issue. Both were N910F
JSing said:
I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.
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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
Neo3D said:
I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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Yeah I agree. I'm not optimistic that Samsung will bring the MicroSD card slot back. It seems like it's the new trend going forward
Neo3D said:
I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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That's why I chose the note 4 because of those deal breaker. TBH, phones have gotten so good in the past couple of years that we're merely just buying aesthetic of the phone instead of functionality when we're upgrading. If Samsung had the same support as Apple with their upgrade Operating System, I don't think a lot of people would be upgrading beside Tech Heads who needs the latest and greatest phone at the time.
I'm staying with my 4.
Got a note 5 on my hands at the store. It really feels better and the s pen is much better. But aside that, note 4 wins on the SD card slot that I swap a lot. I'll wait for the note 6 or some other thing.
As the other friend said. Phones got so much better in the last couple years that there is not much reasons for considering an yearly upgrade.
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For me, at least removable battery is enough & Note 4 can do that.
For storage, at least OTG USB flash drive is accessible, but microSD is of course better.
I hope Note 6 or 7 bring back at least removable battery.
For now Note 4 is worth buying/keeping instead of Note 5.
Compare all the features side by side and considering the price difference I would say note 4 is still a better option that of course if you don't need fingerprint scanner. All the features of the note 5 are already available through custom ROM s and developers are hard at work to improve them.

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