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[Q] Developper&Community Support: G2 vs N5

Hey,
I am going to buy a new phone, however I am still doubting between the G2 or the N5. They are both equally priced, altough the G2 is a little bit cheaper with an LG cashback.
At this moment the G2 has a head start due to the larger battery, better camera (4K?!) and better specs overal (IR blaster) and I am going to use a custom rom anyway ( tips anyone ?).
However I am still in doubt to what the support of the community is.
Thus what I wanted to know is, how is the developper support and the community support of the G2 in comparison to the N5?
At first glance there seems to be much more support, developpers and custom roms for the N5 than the G2, can anyone tell me if this is indeed the case.
Is there btw a custom rom similiar to that of the N5 (with perhaps quickremote support)?
Thanks

Hartendief said:
Hey,
I am going to buy a new phone, however I am still doubting between the G2 or the N5. They are both equally priced, altough the G2 is a little bit cheaper with an LG cashback.
At this moment the G2 has a head start due to the larger battery, better camera (4K?!) and better specs overal (IR blaster) and I am going to use a custom rom anyway ( tips anyone ?).
However I am still in doubt to what the support of the community is.
Thus what I wanted to know is, how is the developper support and the community support of the G2 in comparison to the N5?
At first glance there seems to be much more support, developpers and custom roms for the N5 than the G2, can anyone tell me if this is indeed the case.
Is there btw a custom rom similiar to that of the N5 (with perhaps quickremote support)?
Thanks
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The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.

scottdanpor said:
The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.
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Actually there is a quick remote app for AOSP ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596104

scottdanpor said:
The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.
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Thank you for your reply, I had a S3 where I had CM 11 unofficial on it (loved it).
I however read that the battery life of CM11 on the G2 is pretty bad.
One quick question again, I am from belgium and will thus be getting the international 802 version: I noticed there is a devide between the different versions, does that mean that I won't be able to use roms in the 801 forum ?

Hartendief said:
Thank you for your reply, I had a S3 where I had CM 11 unofficial on it (loved it).
I however read that the battery life of CM11 on the G2 is pretty bad.
One quick question again, I am from belgium and will thus be getting the international 802 version: I noticed there is a devide between the different versions, does that mean that I won't be able to use roms in the 801 forum ?
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There are many roms that will work with all G2 versions, but roms only designed to work on 801 will not work on 802 without being ported (by a developer). The title usually says which version(s) it will work with. Some say "All variants".
I can't comment on CM because I run a customized stock rom. Great battery life and I really like white themes rather than dark.

scottdanpor said:
There are many roms that will work with all G2 versions, but roms only designed to work on 801 will not work on 802 without being ported (by a developer). The title usually says which version(s) it will work with. Some say "All variants".
I can't comment on CM because I run a customized stock rom. Great battery life and I really like white themes rather than dark.
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Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?

Hartendief said:
Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?
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Root and TWRP are for sure available. Did you check the original android development section for roms? Probably still not as many as for the N5. I never heard of Gummy rom, but the others I have.

Hartendief said:
Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?
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root- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
twrp- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670
cm11- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495859 (thread has not been updated in a while those bugs may not exist anymore)
pacman- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500030
paranoid- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
team gummy rom- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572383 (apparently there is a gummy rom for d802 international)
as for threads this one is aosp only http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/orig-development and as long as it says d802 in it you will be able to flash also d802 specific thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development-d802
as for development and different models each devise is different from there sources to their networks so each has to be developed to differently unlike the nexus which is a one for all device also pretty much all the features which are for stock g2 have been ported over and battery life is amazing on both stock and aosp especially compared to the n5

ATTN: Custom ROM users; Opinions and Recommendations\Reviews wanted for: BEST G2 ROM!

Im on Stock Firmware: 4.4.2 on my LG G2 Verizon (VS98024A). Ive been doing alot of browsing on Custom Rom's and I want to hear some opinions. My question is Whats the BEST and most Stable ROM out there today? I was never a HUGE fan of Lollipop, but im not against it; and Cyanogenmod was never my "Favorite" custom ROM, But again; not against it!
I see ALOT of ROM's by Cloudyfa for 4.4 KitKat like CloudyFlex 2.8, CloudyG2 2.2, CloudyPro II 2.3 and I wonder whats the real differences between them all [REALLY?] and also LP 5.1 Roms like Cloudyfa's CloudyG2 3.3 and the comparions between that and the KK Versions with [PORT] like OptimusG3 Rom V1.5 and the OptimusPro Rom V4.5? and You cant forget Cyanogen Mod with KK and LP Roms as well, even 6.x MM.
Not to Mention ALL the others like Pac Rom, Slim Rom, Devient, and ect ect so on!
So what are the major categorys and differences besides the obvious of Andrioid Versions; What are the Kernels like? What makes one ROM (in your specific) better then others?
I See - A LOT- of people who are new to the G2 like myself; alittle late in the game just due to the fact the phone; "Out Of the Box" is still an AMAZING phone; and everyone who didnt follow these ROM's as they were in the making; seem to be out of the loop and not cought up, and not many replys to them asking. I was hoping I could start a thread that could help people and answer some of the multiple repeat questions and help give some people some insight on this topic!
Im inviting EVERYONE who ever ran a ROM other then STOCK to chime in and spread what you know! Thanks!!

if you dont know the difference between cloudy's rom then you should unroot your device because sooner or later you will brick it

I don't know why but I kept running into lag with the stock ROM on my D800 after a couple of months of use. Eventually, I became annoyed and installed this stripped D800 ROM, and never looked back. It's very fast and lightweight giving all stock functionality, without the bloat of dozens installed and running bloatware apps. Rather unfortunately, there is only the d800 version. Perhaps, such ROMs exist for other G2 editions?

Robles.... ROM's are very personal girlfriends of our phones and us users. Your likes might aggravate me and viceversa. Cloudy offers cleaned up variations of stock OS, and then you have CM-based roms (bliss pop, resurrection, etc). The best rom? Only you can answer that. You're asking a very annoying question even though this community is very helpful. Ask a waiter what they recommend, and what should their answer be? "it depends what you're in the mood for?" Right? How does he/she know what we like? Your question is similar, and has been asked too many times. As helpful as xda is, we all appreciate that a person investigates BEFORE asking. Learn or try, and then ask.
Go on the threads and read and read comments and posts, and slowly your gut will tell you to try a rom or not. As long as you make backups with twrp, you can always return to safety with what you had.
I'm on Slimsaber LP rom, and the battery life is amazing for a daily driver. There's a start, read, read more, and good luck.

Which stable but speedy and debloated ROM for gf?

Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !

If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643

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If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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It is N910F.
The link you provided is simply stock android MM?

Yes stock MM, stock is in my experience the most stable and bug free rom build. But the link is for n910g unfortunately.

Stock ROM, and then debloat yourself. Quite honestly speaking, and no offence to anyone, there are no good ROMs available for Note 4. In fact I myself might have not got the phone if I realised the development section is like this. And I am not interested in ported ROMs, so even though there are many available I won't go that way, and I am too dumb to make a ROM for myself, so stock ROM it is.

I agree, stock rom rooted and debloat it, and apply msm tweaks. If you want, xposed as well.

Utini said:
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
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You must flash samsung based rom to have all soen features and samsung apps. I reconnemed kurama rom which in using , its battery friendly, fast and stock based. If you going to flash kurama rom you must flash modem and bootloader for the rom to boot up (only can be flashed from pc with odin)

Looking for best 6.0.1 to install

Hi all, thank you so much for you suggestions and kind attention.
I'm gonna buy this phone soon, I'm new here, I would like to know which is the best ROM suggested here.
For best I mean especially bugless, stable, well optimized, and possibly updated.. what is your experience about? Thanks for sharing

xXx Rom by @xXx ... more to stock rom... always reply/update/discuss about bug etc.. simple stable fast smooth rom...
SM G900F 6.0.1 xXx 4.7.1 Boeffla Beta 5

thank you a lot for answer. I'm a bit confused since Boeffla Beta 5 is just a kernel and I need all package of MM 6.0.1 with hopefully the Boeffla Beta 5 kernel. Where can I find it?
Maybe I've to install any ROM with MM and then install the kernel? (And then gapps).
Thank you a lot

TW Based
- Sixperience (It's not on XDA, Google it)
- xXx ROM
AOSP Based
- Samperia (XOSP, Xperia UI)
- PureGoogle (Looks like stock Nexus 5 ROM)
- Slim6 (Minimalistic Features, Fast)
CM Based
- CM13
- RESURRECTION REMIX
- crDroid

sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....

pepins said:
sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....
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Then name some.

[BIG RANT START] DON'T READ IF YOU'RE TOO SENSIBLE
All roms, they're almost the same. People get the sources, compile it, and release it.. and they all looks like the same.
Every non-stock-based (TW) rom looks and runs almostly identical.. They have almost the same functions, almost the same stability, they share the same "device tree" and kernel.
Even boeffla's kernel has no new features for AGES. And the "developer" just blames Samsung and wash his hands.. (and I have "donated" for his app)
I'm sick of no specific S5 stuff, improvements FOR s5 or performance tweaks FOR s5. I bet they mostly don't even USE a S5 anymore.
Even the ****ing microfone has ultra-low recording volume for AGES and no one cares. They just COMPILE what they DOWNLOAD from others and "release" it here.
And there are people THANKING them for making just this. Come on, it's not a matter of being ungrateful, but to be critical. I don't like mediocrity!
If you appear to be totally satisfied with the **** you're receiving, no one will give you more than ****!
And NO, I don't have to "do better" to complain about it or be critical about it. When did GOD say that you can't complain about something just because you can't do better? or it's just a xda's RULE to be a totally grateful lame fanboy about everything you're getting here? I'm just not mediocre.
But anyway.. peace for all.

On my old LG phone I used to run custom ROMs in order to free-up internal memory & squeeze out more performance (on an aging phone) and to get some additional features (on an aging OS). I haven't bothered to install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S5 because:
1) Stock Android 6.0.1 is really good.
2) Rooting enables you to remove bloatware and free up memory, via Titanium Backup. I've got all the apps I want and no memory shortage.
3) Installing the Xposed framework, and some Xposed apps (especially XtouchWiz) has brought to my GS5 all of the "built-in" features that I'd want from custom ROMs.
4) Custom ROMs tend to be a bit buggy and tend to waste a lot of my time because I have to update the buggy ROMs.
I am now perfectly happy with my GS5 and I can't think of a reason why I'd want to hassle with installing a custom ROM. But that's just me.

This sure turned into a whine fest. Install what you want. The great thing about having custom roms is the ability to flash different builds in order to get the features you want. I prefer stock cm13. Only issue that I have is Bluetooth stuttering on wake. There's it. Everything else is stable and predictable. Using xposed with a few modules adds some features normally in RR or Bliss but with, for me, without the lag.
Why I choose custom over stock? I cannot stand the thought of being locked down to a device I own outright. I should have the right to change my status bar. I should have the right to choose what apps I want on my device. I should have the right after paying 600 at the time to full control over my device.
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA-Developers mobile app

this became really good thread!! Thank you all for posting your experiences! For me really great and I can save really lot of time!
Please keep posting your choices!
really with Xposed apps is possible to have all features of custom roms?
CM13 is the official stock rom? There is one with root included?
What about "with stock rom you don't have all the control of the phone", is that true even with root?
Thank you

AICP 11
running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.

i like and have been using for a while [ROM] [Official & Nightlies] [BlissPop 6.01] 10/7 - [KLTE-SPR-DV-USC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development/rom-wip-27-9-14-t2889474

too many
theres just too many but the best ROM i think would be PAC-MAN cuz its got a bit of everything, however i am yet to find a fully working one. closest i could find was Ressurection Remix. its pretty dope.

In my opinion. Tipsy OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3393668
is the most stable and up to date aosp based rom out there for the S5.
Fast, smooth and zero bugs.
Incorporates the latest theming engine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/projekt-substratum-t3423623
Xposed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
works as well.
Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk

I'll reccomend VanirAOSP. It is pre-rooted, faster and more stable than CM13, and looks quite cool.

Chadwick108 said:
running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.
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Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?

G900v
Barabba11 said:
Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?
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Have Verizon G900V and unlocked the bootloader using the forums here @ xda

vaniraosp lacks lots of features, as I remember..
Im using aokp with no complains ... it seems faster than others with its default kernel..
crazykernel reboots if you change almost any default options, and boeffla's lacks features and has some untested/buggy governors (less than crazykernel though)
it seems real devs are abandoning s5 as everything is just in an alpha stage forever

AOSPextended v4.1 OR RR v5.8.3?

I'm on LG G2 D802 and I've recently installed crDroid which I didn't like and right now I'm trying to decide between AOSP and RR. Both are based on Nougat 7.1.2 but I'm not sure what's the difference between them and which one is generally more stable so for the people who tried both ROMs, what do you think?
I'm asking because I need my phone to be up and running as quickly as possible and I'm kinda undecided which one to bother downloading, installing, & tweaking right away.
Thanks in advance

magoooood said:
I'm on LG G2 D802 and I've recently installed crDroid which I didn't like and right now I'm trying to decide between AOSP and RR. Both are based on Nougat 7.1.2 but I'm not sure what's the difference between them and which one is generally more stable so for the people who tried both ROMs, what do you think?
I'm asking because I need my phone to be up and running as quickly as possible and I'm kinda undecided which one to bother downloading, installing, & tweaking right away.
Thanks in advance
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Hi!
Some time ago I started a nougat-poll. I don't think there are stability- or performance-differences between AOSP, RR and Lineage. It's more a question of personal taste. Personally I tried nearly every ROM just to realize that I like stock-based ROMs. :laugh: