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New Mugen Power battery for Kaiser

You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.

jcespi2005 said:
You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.
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Nice find, i would really like to see how it compares to the standard battery....

Looks like they are not available until next week. They are only taking pre-orders now. But 3000mAh...WOW! I have heard that Mugen batteries are some of the best you can buy too.

does anybody have any pictures of it? The site did not incllude any.

if it's 3000mAh and comes with a new battery door, you can bet it's as ugly as sin. I understand the importance of a bigger battery, in fact I have the Seido one in my Tilt right now, but why would you want to turn a phone that's already pushing maximum size/weight and add a nice big hump to it? crazy....

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you can imagine that I won't buy such an item... like smittyofdhs said; it's already pushing the limits.
Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).

Does it come with Nitrous Oxide (NOS)?

Someone has to be a guinea pig
I ordered one yesterday. I need the battery life since I'm not always able to recharge when needed. So, if it's fat and ugly, I'll still have my OEM and swap them as needed.

MetalRush said:
.....Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).
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I have yet to find an external GPS receiver that would work with the Kaiser. If you find one please let me know.
edit: if it's a 300mah battery it's probably be this one
http://4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2277 It has a thicker door than the 2800mah battery.

Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!

Think the most irritating thing with the Kaiser is that you can not use the keyboard on a flat table or so, because it is not stable anymore

stryker1355 said:
Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!
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I have been using a 2700 mAh battery from gpdforless (which has a .uk address) for the last three weeks. Kaiser works fine with it, no noticeable problems. It keeps the charge for complete day, with push Microsoft email and bluetooth constantly on.

How much does this "Extended Size Hi–Power 3000mAh Battery for HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) PPCs." cost in USD from the mugen online store?? i goto check out and i get these numbers..
HLI–P4550XL 57.55 / 83.45¹ 57.55 83.45
But i have no idea if thats euros but they are in the netherlands so i guess it would be euros if it is.... it makes the battery about $80usd or $116usd the shipping right now is free but thats still a bit high.
edit: oops found the answer "All prices are in Euro / US Dollar ex VAT*" small print

3000Mah Extended Battery for GSM Touch PRO

Here's a battery that will more than double the capacity of the battery and almost double the size of the phone!
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
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Extended-size super high-capacity 3000mAh Battery for HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael) PPCs.
Li-ion, 3.7V, 3000mAh
Colour: Black
Original Battery Model : DIAM171
(Made by Mugen Power)
PLEASE NOTE THIS BATTERY INCREASES THE THICKNESS OF THE DEVICE.
REPLACEMENT BATTERY COVER IS INCLUDED.
FREE WORLDWIDE SHIPPING
Product is in stock $99.95
Price before VAT, plus delivery
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That will make a nice self-defense weapon now! It is also good for workouts.

Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.

alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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That's what I said... man its like carrying a brick in your pocket!!!!!

Hahaha. Now they need to make a backpack carrying case for the phone + extended battery.

hahah yeah this would be one hell of a thing to put in your pocket.

alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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It doubles as battery for an Integra

3000mah docking station/cradle?
Anyone know if fuze/touch pro, with the 3000mah battery, will fit into 1350-1500 mah docking stations/cradles? If not, anyone know where to find a cradle for this beast.

Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...

Maybe a nice little leather bag like the 3-watt bag cell phones I started out with! :-D

ray_f said:
Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...
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LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5

For that size it should come with a heat sink and fan!

What I want to know is how good the camera and flash work with that extra size. I hope it doesn't interfere too much...

Xue v.2 said:
LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5
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i would try and buy one off of ebay usa. with extra shipping cost it will probally still be cheaper than $34

[Q] Desire Z EXTRA LONG LIFE battery 1500mAh

Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img

buzmay said:
Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img
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hmm seems legit, alot of people are using those red hong kong batteries and reporting good...its worth a shot, i believe you would have a higher battery life with this.

Don't believe the hype: http://batteryboss.org/
Most batteries that are only a little more than the default are generally useless. The only useful ones are the huge, significant jumps like from 1300mah to 2500mah or something. A jump of 200mah will make nearly no difference due to inefficiency.

It's also rather common for the capacity claims of those third-party batteries to be somewhat - erm - optomistic.

Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Thanks for the info guys then I think I won't be buying this. Highly appreciated.
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schriss said:
Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Kindly give us a feedback on your findings about the portable charger.
Thanks.

Underclock to lowest for screen off
Control sync times (can still use auto)
make sure you turn screen off when not using the phone
then you can easily get at least 24 hours use from it without the need for a bigger battery.

If I had no morals, I would source some cheap batteries from China that were clearly over-rated in terms of their capacity (or get some made up like that, with a higher capacity printed on than they really are), and then sell them on eBay with that over-inflated capacity.
I'm sure the number of batteries returned would be minimal, because it's so hard to really "prove" that the capacity is really less than that indicated.

[Q] 3 cell 24.6Whr battery (replaceable)

What type of batteries? Replaceable, I can go to my local Walmart and get some? Are they in that hump?
-CC

10-14 hrs battery life on 4 D batteries... not bad

4 D cell batteries? Any image showing them or how they get put in?

I'm interpretting it as meaning that the battery can be replaced fairly easily by the user if it starts loosing the ability to loose charge.
As in not something you would do every day, more after a year of use etc.
Just speculating though...
Zuber

twospirits said:
4 D cell batteries? Any image showing them or how they get put in?
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sorry i was joking about the D batteries..sarcasm doesn't work good on the internet although rohan has stated that the battery WILL be replaceable

Crimton said:
sorry i was joking about the D batteries..sarcasm doesn't work good on the internet although rohan has stated that the battery WILL be replaceable
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I guessed you were, but wasn't completely sure...
It would be good if the batteries were swappable as in 'Nokia Battery' sense rather than when they are worn out sense. Still, just being changable yourself with Notion Ink approval is a good start.
Zuber

In a break down of a prototype by engadget you can see the red battery cells in the hump.

clockcycle said:
In a break down of a prototype by engadget you can see the red battery cells in the hump.
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Linky please.
TS

twospirits said:
Linky please.
TS
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Thanks for the image, its interesting to note that there is alot of space between the motherboard and the ports, one of the reasons why the bezel is so big is because Rohan mentioned that was due to the ports. But it looks like it can have gotten a smaller bezel by positioning the ports all to one side or at the bottom.
TS

I don't think that these images shows the real product, they take it in june.
You can see that there's no camera on this picture :

http://nifaq.pbworks.com/w/page/34160809/2d-–-Power-and-Battery

The only lithium batteries I know of in the round configuration are A123 brand batteries. They are lithium, but slightly different chemically. They run at 3.6v nominal as opposed to 3.7v, but are safer, more stable and have longer lifespan before needing replaced. I would know for sure If I knew the voltage of the battery pack.

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http://nifaq.pbworks.com/w/page/34160809/2d-–-Power-and-Battery
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I'm not helping with the faq anymore because of differences with Tim of the addicts. However that world look much more professional without the rechargeable cat.
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Gkar3 said:
I don't think that these images shows the real product, they take it in june.
You can see that there's no camera on this picture :
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Thats the same unit NVIDIA showed off at CES, old model.
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Better Batteries.
With the pictures in the latest 'Factory Shots,' these cells look like standard 18650-style cells. I have seen unreliable claims of up to 3.2Ah per cell for a Chinese cell. And a more reliable 2.9 Ah for a Panasonic cell.
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-g...ells-NCR18650-2-9-Ah-2900mAh-wholesalers.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...lithium-battery-3200mAH-3-7V-wholesalers.html
The Adam's 24.6Wh cells correspond to less than 2.2Ah cells. This means that we could potentially upgrade Adam from a 6-9 hour device to a 8-20 hour device.
Does this void the warranty?

4800mAh Battery for the atrix!

Hello atrix owners, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/4/prweb8348163.htm
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-for-motorola-atrix-4g-with-battery-door.html
has anybody tried it?, I'm ok with my battery but if this is gonna last for 3 days then I might consider it

Looks bulky. Not worth it imo. Too much money for a little more than double the battery. Plus no case would ever fit that thing.
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Unless it has filler plastic or that backshell is rigid, you're going to end up with a soft spot in the case above and below the battery.

I'm very certain it will look a lot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwcz-iibbs

geishroy said:
I'm very certain it will look a lot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwcz-iibbs
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lmao, jesus!

ooooh a 1" thick phone. 2002 all over again.

geishroy said:
I'm very certain it will look a lot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwcz-iibbs
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Holy crap, its way worse than I thought!

It looks really disgusting. With that amount of money it would make more sense to just buy a few batteries you can replace.

al3xx said:
It looks really disgusting. With that amount of money it would make more sense to just buy a few batteries you can replace.
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I actually did that. I got two 1900mAh batteries and external charger for $13. Not a bad deal I'd say.

geishroy said:
I'm very certain it will look a lot like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwcz-iibbs
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holy ****! ... not gonna happen!

my eyes!!!! they burn!!!!!
dude seriously id rather carry a brick around that have that on my phone.
im still wonder. dont you all go home and charge your phones or something? why is battery power such a bug interest as long it gets you thur the day then there should be alright.

Thatd be cool if you were goin on a long trip and needed that extra battery but for daily usr its infesable.
Aluminum helmet, so they cant read my mind..

sal2708 said:
my eyes!!!! they burn!!!!!
dude seriously id rather carry a brick around that have that on my phone.
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My thoughts exactly. Thankfully I get good enough battery life that I dont need that.

can you say
explosion?

nosit1 said:
I actually did that. I got two 1900mAh batteries and external charger for $13. Not a bad deal I'd say.
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Where did you get the batteries and external charger from for $13?

cerps said:
Where did you get the batteries and external charger from for $13?
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They sell batteries on ebay cheap (I bought some for my Fuze), but they do not perform anything like OEM batteries.
Sent from my Atrix

For the same price I buy one anida brand I'm waiting to see how works I want an extra emergency charger perhaps I figured out I need 850mah my actual charger that used charge my nexus isn't working
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Sent from my loved atrix ;D

Get one of these. When flying, I shut the phone off and let it charge during the flight.
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Not sure if this APC unit is still available, but there are many other options out there.
I also purchased one of these. More testing is needed, but I think it will fully recharge the phone twice. Used one of the Zagg 25% discount codes on it.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php

cerps said:
Where did you get the batteries and external charger from for $13?
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eBay generic non-OEM batteries. If you want a link, PM.
In addition to that, I have an Imax Power brick. It was like $50 but it's amazing. 5000mAh. Greatest backup battery I have ever owned. Super reliable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0013...=AKIAIUIJEUMCLEP2N5GQ&creativeASIN=B0013G8PTS

ZoinksS2k said:
Get one of these. When flying, I shut the phone off and let it charge during the flight.
Not sure if this APC unit is still available, but there are many other options out there.
I also purchased one of these. More testing is needed, but I think it will fully recharge the phone twice. Used one of the Zagg 25% discount codes on it.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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I have this! I just don't know how much it'll charge my atrix cause it only charged like 75 percent of my iphone battery and i think thats only like 1350 mahs?