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My own experience with the camera on the Xz1 has taught me something; in anything but perfect light, the processing on 8mp stills is better than the processing on 20mp stills. Because of the oversampling, 8mp stills pull in a vast amount of detail with little noise and reasonably few artifacts (minus a touch of over-sharpening.
To test out just how good (and because, frankly, I have far too much time on my hands) I decided to skip across to GSM Arena and pit the Z1 against the iPhone 5s - the current "king" of 8mp shooters, in many people's eyes.
I was surprised by the results.
There are only 3 8mp samples on GSM Arena for the XZ1 and 2 of them had vastly different lighting, when compared to the iPhone 5s. To make things as fair as I could, I chose the picture with the most similar lighting. Here are the results (XZ1 on left, iP5s on the right)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10186973536/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10186975896/sizes/o/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10186976966/sizes/o/in/photostream/
Now, I don't know about you, but the XZ1 is definitely pulling in more detail, here. Your thoughts, below.
(Note - I also looked at the G2 and Sammy Galaxy S4. Similar results to the iPhone, in places, even though both were shooting a whole 5mp more data.)
(Note 2 - I chose the photo's as the "Comparison charts", so fawned over by the photo-obsessives on here, only tell 1 story: how good is the phone when shooting an interior macro with half decent lighting. Real world use is a different beast entirely).
Please find thumbnails attatched,...
Except the last image where the 5S wins...
But yeah I agree
Lots of comparisons here
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=14041
Z1, i5S, 1020 and one more phone. Mostly Z1 is better than i5S
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Except the last image where the 5S wins...
But yeah I agree
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The last one isn't a 1:1 comparison though. Completely different levels of light. Shouldn't even be compared.
XZ1 has a good camera, no doubt.
However, Sony is doing a bad job in postprocessing the photos because first they apply filters for noise reduction and after that they do resharpening which looks out of place sometimes (especially when zooming to pixel level).
I hope that the aggressive postprocessing is going to be improved in future updates.
It's strange to see that my 1year-old Lumia 920 is taking far better photos than the latest&greatest Xperia Z1, iPhone 5S and LG G2.
The Z1 camera is really good, regardless of some claims about how bad is it. But the thing to keep in mind is that it is very good in well lit pictures but in low light pictures it is not that good and that what we can see from the picture posted. This is already proven again and again. So only if sony could improve low light images, then the Z1 camera would be just perfect.
Z1 vs G2 vs S4
Here's my Z1, G2 and S4 going head to head.
I'm at work at the moment so they're not the best comparisons
The Z1 was shot in 8mp Superior Auto and 20mp Manual
The G2 was shot in 10mp Auto
The S4 was shot in 9.6mp Auto
Z1 Manual
Z1 Auto
My opinion is....
1st = G2
2nd = Z1
3rd = S4
Let me know what you think.....
Lol, planning on doing some more comparisons? As only one photo doesn't say too much...
But owning the Z1 and the G2 myself as well I tend to give the first place in good light to the G2 as well, the Z1 has more potential (especially in lower light situations) but somehow it doesn;t work too great yet. Especially with autosettings the G2 is the winner for me.
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Lol, planning on doing some more comparisons? As only one photo doesn't say too much...
But owning the Z1 and the G2 myself as well I tend to give the first place in good light to the G2 as well, the Z1 has more potential (especially in lower light situations) but somehow it doesn;t work too great yet. Especially with autosettings the G2 is the winner for me.
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Lol of course i''ll add more but it's all i can do at work, i'll do more when im home
Yeah i agree the G2 wins it for me, i used it all weekend and i was impressed with every picture but after using the Z1 for a few weeks, im usually dissapointed with most pictures. some low light pictures with the Z1 were really impressive, but the others were just ruined by noise.
I know the Z1 can produce some great shots in manual but 99% of pictures i take are spontaneous pictures, i quickly pull out my phone, snap a pictures and away i go, for this the Z1's 'Superior Auto' is not as good as the G2
Btw, I didn't mean to sound like an ass with that first line... No insult intended
But indeed, you shouldn't have to tweak in manual settings to get decent pictures. In my opinion at least 90% of the people just want to take a quick snap. Really torn between the Z1 and G2 myself, I love the screen, battery, wifi/data connection and partially the camera of the G2 but the feel and software (and partially the camera) of the Z1... Still can not decide but using the G2 as the main phone atm.
Am truely hoping the Z1 camera will get improved more in the near future...
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Btw, I didn't mean to sound like an ass with that first line... No insult intended
But indeed, you shouldn't have to tweak in manual settings to get decent pictures. In my opinion at least 90% of the people just want to take a quick snap. Really torn between the Z1 and G2 myself, I love the screen, battery, wifi/data connection and partially the camera of the G2 but the feel and software (and partially the camera) of the Z1... Still can not decide but using the G2 as the main phone atm.
Am truely hoping the Z1 camera will get improved more in the near future...
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I will put the Z1 down as a huge dissapointment as Sony over promised and over hyped it with PR bull like it having a Triluminous and X-Reality display and having 'Superor Auto' camera etc.. but in reality the screen is shocking and the cameras 'Superior Auto' is actually poor.
Sony should of just advertised the Z1 as the best waterproof phone on the market and its excellent build quality. and not focused on the screen and camera.
Oh and here's a quick screen comparison of the Z1 and G2
That manual mode on the z1 looks awesome, way less noise and more like a DSLR type of picture. But I am surprised that it's not performing too well (too much noise) in auto mode.
Did you upgrade the Z1? I heard Sony released an update a few weeks ago that improved the cam quality.
Btw can you allow us to download the original picture, please? You only let us up to Large 2048. I want to be able to see the full 20.7 MP and 13 MP.
The G2 has so much potential in its camera but LG keeps using that useless post processing effect that they also use in their HDTVs (which in my opinion really ruins the picture quality and makes it "overly smooth and weird" for no reason instead of sharp and a nice blur)
Can you do me a favor? download Camera360 and take a picture using Effects mode and then None and upload, for both G2 and Z1. I would like to see if the quality is better as usually Camera360 is capable of taking raw pictures with maximum details compared to Google's and Samsung's official camera apps (I know this is not google or Samsung but Sony's and LG's).
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That manual mode on the z1 looks awesome, way less noise and more like a DSLR type of picture. But I am surprised that it's not performing too well (too much noise) in auto mode.
Did you upgrade the Z1? I heard Sony released an update a few weeks ago that improved the cam quality.
Btw can you allow us to download the original picture, please? You only let us up to Large 2048. I want to be able to see the full 20.7 MP and 13 MP.
The G2 has so much potential in its camera but LG keeps using that useless post processing effect that they also use in their HDTVs (which in my opinion really ruins the picture quality and makes it "overly smooth and weird" for no reason instead of sharp and a nice blur)
Can you do me a favor? download Camera360 and take a picture using Effects mode and then None and upload, for both G2 and Z1. I would like to see if the quality is better as usually Camera360 is capable of taking raw pictures with maximum details compared to Google's and Samsung's official camera apps (I know this is not google or Samsung but Sony's and LG's).
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Here's the G2 in full 13mp mode with the ISO set to 200, not Auto...
You can download the orignals from Flickr, i just checked. Click on an image, then click on the 3 dots in the bottom right hand corner and then click on 'View all Sizes', then select 'Original'
Here's a direct link the the full 20mp sample
I won't have time to try out that camera app as im about to leave work, sorry mate
Can't see original, maybe because I'm not signed in? I can, however, click your original link here in XDA and it works great for the Z1 20MP.
Can you take pictures of far objects? Almost all cell phones look great in close/macro shots.
I must say that for amateurs the LG G2 seems better, BUT you fail to note the picture is aggressively over sharpened (to make it seem sharper), the z1 is more natural, and is the better out of the bunch.
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I must say that for amateurs the LG G2 seems better, BUT you fail to note the picture is aggressively over sharpened (to make it seem sharper), the z1 is more natural, and is the better out of the bunch.
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With the Lego in front of me, i can tell you the detail on the G2's image is correct while to Z1's is too blurred/smooth and is missing scratches/marks from his hat of which the G2 manages to pick up. but this is being picky, the Z1's manual is still great.
i totally agree the G2 is the best for amateurs who just was a great point and shoot on their mobile and don't want to spend time manually setting the camera to the best setting every time they want a picture.
If Sony could fix the terrible Auto mode, then things would be much better for the Z1.
They need to fix the auto mode, sometimes you get amazing shots and sometimes average shots. Didn't dxomark rate the video camera the best ?
plus people need to remember your viewing the images on a 1080p screen.
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Can't see original, maybe because I'm not signed in? I can, however, click your original link here in XDA and it works great for the Z1 20MP.
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That's because it says in flickr
The owner has disabled downloading of their photos
Not only is there no orginal neither can you download anything. Why ?
Sorry, neilmc1983, no fair, enable it so we can check out the orginal pics.
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But the image is more blurred and the colour reproduction is completely wrong.
Looking at the crops, the LG G2 wins for me. great detail, clarity and the colours were correct.
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Whose fault is it if the picture is more blurred ?
completely wrong ? What is it with these exaggerations !!
It's looks pretty close to me. I don't see any wb issues there. No blue or yellow tints.
neilmc1983 said:
I've just purchased an LG G2, so now i have a Z1, S4 and a G2
I'm busy this weekend but i will post comparison pics of all 3 and i will show the terrible noise on the Z1 even with the update.
So far i am very impressed with the G2 camera.
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Did not see any terrible noise with this set of pictures
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ok mate, i understand you can create better looking pictures in manual but still the Auto mode should still be excellent like it is on the G2 and S4, but its not on the Z1, its very poor and Sony have the cheek to call it 'Superior Auto'
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Its not very poor. Its improved over earlier versions. It can be better.
Bear in mind that lg, samsung & apple do more aggressive noise reduction. This means you lose details in lower light. Its one or the other. Z1 is more capable of taking pictures in more light ranges than any of the above. You want to excel in good light the others will be better, you want low light they will struggle.
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With the Lego in front of me, i can tell you the detail on the G2's image is correct while to Z1's is too blurred/smooth and is missing scratches/marks from his hat of which the G2 manages to pick up. but this is being picky, the Z1's manual is still great.
i totally agree the G2 is the best for amateurs who just was a great point and shoot on their mobile and don't want to spend time manually setting the camera to the best setting every time they want a picture.
If Sony could fix the terrible Auto mode, then things would be much better for the Z1.
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G2 at 13 MP still got more noticeable amount of noise over Z1 at 20MP, easily spotted.
Very disappointed with the picture quality on Z1. I was not expecting DSLR quality photo but at least slightly better than S4 / Iphone 5s
Sony better do someting or else we would see less sales on Z2 or their next line up of product. I compared mine with Note 2 & Note 3, pictures quality are better on Note 3.
It's important to note that your individual experience doesn't agree with what most of the professional comparisons are saying.
I think you should buy a Nokia windows phone since it appears you're more interested mainly in cameraphones, they have just the cameras you're looking for. Otherwise if you're going to stick with android for mostly non camera related reasons, I'd keep your z1 vs the LG's freaking god awful software.
To paraphrase their company slogan when it comes to OEM forks of android "Life is (not) Good". The z1 is a far better smartphone than the g2 in most smartphone aspects.
Reading your anti z1 cam and display posts lately I can only conclude you have a decisive bias towards the g2, your display experiences aren't indicative of the norm everywhere else, and you appear to be looking for bolstering from people to feel better about choosing the g2.
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omnius1 said:
To paraphrase their company slogan when it comes to OEM forks of android "Life is (not) Good". The z1 is a far better smartphone than the g2 in most smartphone aspects
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I disagree, G2 seems far better than Z1, the Z1 currently for me only wins in the aspect of build quality/material and maybe the polished user interface (depends on what user likes) and ofc the water proof in z1 which is not for me as I had seen how waterproofing worked on my xperia z, I am not a fanboy or something of G2 I have recently bought it after thinking 100 times if I should go with LG but thinking their past 1 years work I did trust LG and to be true I am not disappointed. Z1 is a great looking design phone and with very polished user interface other than that I don't feel Z1 can be better than G2 or maybe even note 3. (I dislike note 3) I'd rather wait for z2 and see if they work on their display panels.
We agree to disagree then. I find Sony phones to be of much higher quality than LG on pretty much every level.
I find Sony electronics in general to be of a higher caliber than LG who are still struggling with their budget electronics stigma.
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We agree to disagree then. I find Sony phones to be of much higher quality than LG on pretty much every level.
I find Sony electronics in general to be of a higher caliber than LG who are still struggling with their budget electronics stigma.
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You are right about the higher quality of Sony phone or any Sony product, I myself use Sony Tv's camcorder, vaio, but I guess their smartphone in terms of build is the best in market no one can win it anyday no matter if it's a low-end, mid-range or high-end device Sony's phone are the best in terms of build but the main problem occurs is the display and the glass at back, on my xperia z the glass got unglued and also cracked due to heat same happen to the z1 it was unglued and also the display I had got myself 9 replacements of z1 but the display of all was never satisfying took replacement from several service centers but still no luck in display and finally a refund, I'll anyday go for Sony if I want a high quality built device but as per usage I wouldn't go for Sony as of now.
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Reading your anti z1 cam and display posts lately I can only conclude you have a decisive bias towards the g2, your display experiences aren't indicative of the norm everywhere else, and you appear to be looking for bolstering from people to feel better about choosing the g2.
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I've got that impression too as far as OP is concerned.
G2 vs Z1 is a tough decision.
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but the main problem occurs is the display and the glass at back, on my xperia z the glass got unglued and also cracked due to heat same happen to the z1 it was unglued and also the display I had got myself 9 replacements of z1 but the display of all was never satisfying took replacement from several service centers but still no luck in display and finally a refund, I'll anyday go for Sony if I want a high quality built device but as per usage I wouldn't go for Sony as of now.
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9 replacements !!
It seems to take forever just to get one replacement, unless there is a clear problem with the device they refuse it.
How the heck did you manage to get 9. I'd have thought they'd try once or twice, failing which return your money and tell you to get lost.
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I've got that impression too as far as OP is concerned.
G2 vs Z1 is a tough decision.
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9 replacements !!
It seems to take forever just to get one replacement, unless there is a clear problem with the device they refuse it.
How the heck did you manage to get 9. I'd have thought they'd try once or twice, failing which return your money and tell you to get lost.
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I guess they are pretty good and nice here in my country/city and also they had agreed to all the display issues faced without banging my head on walls to explain them.
Xperia Z2 vs Note3 screen comparison (VIDEO):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQP-JGwNmzA
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The same is here: http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/1...t-the-galaxy-note-3-sony-has-come-a-long-way/
Kinda depends on your definition of better I guess, the colors are more vibrant now on the Z2 it seems but I thought that people were shouting that the less vibrant colors on the Z1 were better because they were 'more real'. Looks as if some filter was applied in the Z2 (or Note3)...
But yeah, hope they improved the screen (viewing angles and such) on the Z2. Loving the Z1 so if they improved it, kudos to Sony.
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dagrim1 said:
Kinda depends on your definition of better I guess, the colors are more vibrant now on the Z2 it seems but I thought that people were shouting that the less vibrant colors on the Z1 were better because they were 'more real'. Looks as if some filter was applied in the Z2 (or Note3)...
But yeah, hope they improved the screen (viewing angles and such) on the Z2. Loving the Z1 so if they improved it, kudos to Sony.
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Vibrant and over saturation are 2 different things, those pentile OLED to me looks like color is bleeding out of the screen which I hate. Crazy when you think about the price of bravia W900 with the triluminos tech compare to OLED.
so which one is more oversaturated now? and who are the ones yelling for privacy? i so want to see their comments
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so which one is more oversaturated now? and who are the ones yelling for privacy? i so want to see their comments
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going with all the hands on preview, Z2 color is rich but not over saturated.
DxOMark Mobile Photo: TEST SONY XPERIA Z2
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings
And Qualcom announced S808 and 810 CPU based on 64 bit architecture.
Z1 is great, Z2 is awesome...
We could only imagine what will Sony present with Z3 or Z4 (or whatever they named them).
Sony will rule in Android world.
If they add navigation bar control through settings UI - I could leave without root on something like Z3/Z4.
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And Qualcom announced S808 and 810 CPU based on 64 bit architecture.
Z1 is great, Z2 is awesome...
We could only imagine what will Sony present with Z3 or Z4 (or whatever they named them).
Sony will rule in Android world.
If they add navigation bar control through settings UI - I could leave without root on something like Z3/Z4.
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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I thought the same...
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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Don't know why you quoted me.
What I said was referring only to Xperia.
Z1, Z2 then next, device that will come this or next year.
I'm saying Z1 has best camera...
And last part... See .that... Sony will rule - so, really don't know where did you found that.
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Better than pureview? Z1 third best camera phone?I something is not right here..
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If you read their assessment the tests are done to compare overall camera performance and not just image quality of the photos, they also include video performance as well. The Z2 and the pureview have the same score in image quality but the Z2 trumps the pureview in aspects such as exposure and autofocus, which are all accounted for in the final score. I'm no camera expert but DxOMark are supposedly one of the best in camera reviews, the Z2 is looking even more promising then ever
Highly impressive that it best the pureview. Does waterproofing a camera effect it's performance? If so, then it's even more impressive.
I tend to agree that camera performance should include some measure of accessibility. If a camera can only take great shots in manual mode after fiddling with 17 settings in perfect light on days you got lucky with the old lady and a promotion at work it isn't as useful day to day as one where you can just press the button and get a lesser but decent shot to me.
Ok, here we go. I've been (and still am) a HUGE fan of Sony mobile products. You obviously see from my sig that I own the Z3 Compact Tablet and Smartwatch 3, both products that I simply LOVE and believe are the best among the competition. I've also owned three Xperia phones previously (ZL, Z1, Z3). The Z5, killed it for me. KILLED IT. First of all, I really wanted to believe the hype about the new camera and finally say that my Sony phone is as good as my wife's iPhone 6 camera or my friends' other Android phone cameras. Sadly, that is not the case. The sensor might be awesome and new, but unfortunately Sony still can't properly process the images. I read the reviews and watched the videos before buying mine, and I wanted so badly for them to be wrong. However, after playing with the Z5 for 5 days, I came to the conclusion that the new sensor hasn't changed anything. Pictures still come out grainy and soft and fail miserably in comparison to the competition. The new sensor is also fast, as fast as Sony claims, BUT for some reason there is a lag when you press the shutter button that leads to slightly blurred images.
I also have to admit that for some reason or another, the Z5 lost it's sexiness when compared to the Z3. I can go on and mention some of the other little things, but in all honesty, the camera and the way the phone looks did it in.
With that said, I've returned the phone as I was originally planning on doing anyway because of the light bleed issue, but I'm actually ordering the international version of the white Galaxy S6 instead. I use the phone at work daily for mobile app design testing and it is the best phone Sammy has ever released, not to mention one of the best cameras out there. I guess I was hoping that the Z5 would be just that, a S6 with Sony styling and no touchwiz, but I guess I'll settle for the S6 until Sony addresses the real issue behind their weak camera.
This is by no means intended to change anyone's opinion about the Z5, just sharing my observations and reasons. Who knows, maybe next year like now the Z6 will finally be the phone with the camera that everyone will drool over. Until then, I'll still be a loyal Sony guy with my X3C Tablet and SmartWatch 3 (fingers crossed for a SW4 soon).
Did you adjust your position to account for Z5's wide FoV before taking shots for comparison? I have a Z5, Z3+, S6 & they all take cleaner low-light indoor shots than my sister's IP6+ (with OIS)! I'm not a blind Sony fan either. I'd rather get shot than pick a Sony TV (my second favorite) over a Panasonic (Plasma) TV lol
I'm currently a Sony hardcore fan, but i highly recommend you Samsung Galaxy K Zoom for your photography enthusiasm on phone .
For other great feature/design + waterproof phone, get Xperia Z series.
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I'm currently a Sony hardcore fan, but i highly recommend you Samsung Galaxy K Zoom for your photography enthusiasm on phone .
For other great feature/design + waterproof phone, get Xperia Z series.
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I'd probably go with something like QX100/30 as they work on both android & iOS. They also stay with you even if you decide to ditch the 'phone'
Not trying to insult you, spielnicht, but you know it's a two-stage shutter button?
I feel like the camera is way better than the Z3s. And that's good enough for me.
Design is preference. I personally find the green one that I have, sexy.
The only gripe that I have worth mentioning is the speakers. They are pretty weak compared to my HTC One M8.
There is no other phone out there that combines what Sony has done with the Z5.
-Pocketable
-Great camera. (works well enough)
-Likeable design (preference)
-Water resistant
-Front firing speakers
-And most of all. The most comfortable fingerprint scanner on the market.
-"premium materials and build"
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Not trying to insult you, spielnicht, but you know it's a two-stage shutter button?
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Heh. Yeah I'm aware of that. Regardless of whether you use the physical shutter button or tap the screen, there is a .5sec delay until the picture is snapped and thus leads to blurry images unless you are a robot and don't move the phone at all in that .5sec.
Like I said, no one here needs to convince me that Sony's hardware is TOPS and the design is timeless and of the highest quality. However, you get to a point when you ask yourself whether not being able to take nice pics of your kids is worth living with it. For me, it's not. I am finally willing to try out Samsung since it's going to get me more of the things that I need daily. For my Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet, a camera is irrelevant, so I'm more than thrilled to own that over any other brand.
I just read Sony is building a dedicated mobile factory in Thailand, so fingers crossed that they are putting more R&D efforts and actually work on the shortcomings of the Xperia line. Until then, you'll find me at the Z3 Compact Tablet forum
Sony definitely has work to do on the camera app; I have faith in the new sensor technology but software wise... This planned camera app update in November should hopefully do the trick.
My own observations:
- Holding the camera button to wake the camera (from screen off or even standby) is not reliable. Sometimes requires a second long-press of the camera button. Sometimes this leads to a photo being taken the second the camera app opens.
- Activating the camera can sometimes be practically instant (half a second) or sometimes 2 or 3 seconds - no consistency here at all.
- Accessing your camera roll can sometimes be maddeningly slow.
Hi guys, I switched to Z5 from Z3 and since I have not been able to sell my old phone yet, I have also had some doubts if the upgrade is worth it. If I had the option to return the Z5 I might also go for it, but that's not possible here. However, I think that the Z5 has great hardware and design, and at the moment what is holding it back is the software. After all we are still on the initial release for the device and it's only fare to give a chance to the next software version. Also, the device was released at a time when sony was probably already developing their version of Android 6, and might not have put too much work in the already "outdated" version that the z5 has out of the box. Anyway, I hope the update to Marshmallow brings improvements and I'd really like to see the concept for android software on the Z5.
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Hi guys, I switched to Z5 from Z3 and since I have not been able to sell my old phone yet, I have also had some doubts if the upgrade is worth it. If I had the option to return the Z5 I might also go for it, but that's not possible here. However, I think that the Z5 has great hardware and design, and at the moment what is holding it back is the software. After all we are still on the initial release for the device and it's only fare to give a chance to the next software version. Also, the device was released at a time when sony was probably already developing their version of Android 6, and might not have put too much work in the already "outdated" version that the z5 has out of the box. Anyway, I hope the update to Marshmallow brings improvements and I'd really like to see the concept for android software on the Z5.
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Interesting that, currently i have a Z3C, love the phone, but my eyes are starting to get a little tired, was going to upgrade to a Z3 or a Z5, but is the price difference between the two models worth it ?
Schumi 01 said:
Interesting that, currently i have a Z3C, love the phone, but my eyes are starting to get a little tired, was going to upgrade to a Z3 or a Z5, but is the price difference between the two models worth it ?
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I went from a Z3 to the Z5. To justify the price difference, you would need to consider what the Z5 offers that the Z3 doesn't and see if that matters to you.
What initially helped me justify the move:
Fingerprint Scanner
Normal USB Port
Supposedly Better Camera
What quickly killed the excitement:
Disappointing camera performance during everyday use
Bland design (in comparison to the Z3 at least)
Phone feels thicker
LCD light bleed issues (the final straw for me)
Sony have always had **** camera performance in the Xperia line even though apple etc use Sony sensors and their pics are amazing!!
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I went from a Z3 to the Z5. To justify the price difference, you would need to consider what the Z5 offers that the Z3 doesn't and see if that matters to you.
What initially helped me justify the move:
Fingerprint Scanner
Normal USB Port
Supposedly Better Camera
What quickly killed the excitement:
Disappointing camera performance during everyday use
Bland design (in comparison to the Z3 at least)
Phone feels thicker
LCD light bleed issues (the final straw for me)
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Thank you very much indeed, after reading the above, honestly, i think i will just upgrade to the Z3 and save some money, not too interested in the Fingerprint scanner, but it does sound good, maybe a bit gimmicky for myself, as for the others you have mentioned, again, quite happy with the way the Z3C is laid out.
Could i justify a price a difference of around £150 for a Fingerprint Scanner, and a normal USB port, i really dont think i could.
Z3 it is then, Thanks very much indeed.
Considering any Z1+ mobile produces way better photos than any Iphone in all light conditions (assuming DRM keys are intact and lens cover is not scratched) you probably better off buying a potato and slapping instagram filters on the photo and calling it a day. However SA dark/night mode seems wonky for the Z5 and probably will be updated.