lollipop vs kitkat - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

am really tired,when i updated to lollipop program take alot of ram space and make some app to re open it again when i returned to it,not save it,so i returned to kitkat but the battery drain fast about 1% every minute.
that crazy so what to do? am not expected that from note 4.
advice plz with abuild version or area which work good,no matter kitkat ot lollipop.
thanks

I also returned back to Kitkat & after returning I reset my Note 4 (factory reset) , and every thing working fine
Lollipop is full with bugs so maybe my next update will be Android M when it will come, I believe Lollipop is a no go with a lot of bugs and issues even the coming 5.1.1

one-option said:
I also returned back to Kitkat & after returning I reset my Note 4 (factory reset) , and every thing working fine
Lollipop is full with bugs so maybe my next update will be Android M when it will come, I believe Lollipop is a no go with a lot of bugs and issues even the coming 5.1.1
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what is your product name and which baseband version u on ?
IR work with u?
my phone is N910H

My Note 4 n-910G is working good on lollipop. I'm on stock non-rooted 5.0.1 and i cant wait to get 5.1.1 (M would be heaven but i'm not holding my breath for it). Lollipop for me is quite fast and just tiny annoying bugs, nothing major. Kitkat 4.4.4 was blazing fast for me before. It's suffered a little after i flashed L but i wont go back now. I'm lucky i haven't got the battery issues i keep hearing about, or those lags/bugs. That would make me throw the phone across the room.
Here's to Samsung to give it's best flagship of late 2014, early 2015 Android M

LightspeeDLee said:
My Note 4 n-910G is working good on lollipop. I'm on stock non-rooted 5.0.1 and i cant wait to get 5.1.1 (M would be heaven but i'm not holding my breath for it). Lollipop for me is quite fast and just tiny annoying bugs, nothing major. Kitkat 4.4.4 was blazing fast for me before. It's suffered a little after i flashed L but i wont go back now. I'm lucky i haven't got the battery issues i keep hearing about, or those lags/bugs. That would make me throw the phone across the room.
Here's to Samsung to give it's best flagship of late 2014, early 2015 Android M
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Have you checked your camera pictures ???
Observe the viewfinder, the way everything looks, it will all show like some paint effect compared to the pictures that came sharp while on kitkat.
Please do compare pictures when on kitkat and after lollipop update.
I have created a new thread on it. Many have not observed their camera picture quality post update.

ok... now i'mma worried. will try it

bigheart90 said:
am really tired,when i updated to lollipop program take alot of ram space and make some app to re open it again when i returned to it,not save it,so i returned to kitkat but the battery drain fast about 1% every minute.
that crazy so what to do? am not expected that from note 4.
advice plz with abuild version or area which work good,no matter kitkat ot lollipop.
thanks
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Ok go back to lollipop and flash the 5.1.1 kuybi rom. It's fast and smooth. It's been debloated and is very good on battery life. It's much better then any of the other lollipop and kitkat. In fact I would go as far to say it's the best lollipop build here on xda for now.

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[Q] Downgrade on N7100 ...

Hi there,
I need a hint.... I have a N7100, updated to firm 4.3 from 4.1.2, but I would like to go back to the previous firm version.
I know that there are several issues about it, but before the update to OS 4.3 I did the full backup with CWM on my external SD card. Basically, I should have everything backupped (I guess, including the EFS folder...), and I was wondering if it may be possible to do the step back in this way...
I have already rooted the mobile to install the last available version of ClockWorkMod (..so, Knox is now 0x1...as I had previously fully resetted the mobile status with Triangle Away, while it was running on 4.1.2), and I would really like to go back to the OS 4.1.2, get rid of the knos issue, and wait directly for the 4.4 (whenever it will arrive)
Is it possible?
Baseband: N7100XXUEMJ9
Build version: JSS15J.N7100XXUEMK9
Thanks in advance!
KK 4.4.2 is already leaked and therefore no reason to go back again. First custom rom is in successful testing and the official update not far away
Starflex said:
Hi there,
I need a hint.... I have a N7100, updated to firm 4.3 from 4.1.2, but I would like to go back to the previous firm version.
I know that there are several issues about it, but before the update to OS 4.3 I did the full backup with CWM on my external SD card. Basically, I should have everything backupped (I guess, including the EFS folder...), and I was wondering if it may be possible to do the step back in this way...
I have already rooted the mobile to install the last available version of ClockWorkMod (..so, Knox is now 0x1...as I had previously fully resetted the mobile status with Triangle Away, while it was running on 4.1.2), and I would really like to go back to the OS 4.1.2, get rid of the knos issue, and wait directly for the 4.4 (whenever it will arrive)
Is it possible?
Baseband: N7100XXUEMJ9
Build version: JSS15J.N7100XXUEMK9
Thanks in advance!
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Androidwizzard said it already. The official 4.4.X is not far away. You should live with 4.3 till the official 4.4.X arrives. It will be much better than 4.3
First thing you will encounter when downgrading is losing your IMEI,hence no service, and that's a pain in the arse to restore it back.
Androidwizzard said:
KK 4.4.2 is already leaked and therefore no reason to go back again. First custom rom is in successful testing and the official update not far away
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I totally agree with what Androidwizzard said that 4.4.2 is very smooth with even lower memory usage! Try it at least once and I believe you will love it at all!
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Gentlemen,
Thank you all.
Considering all the issues, I will keep the 4.3 till the new version arrives!
Thank you again!
Inviato dal mio GT-N7100 utilizzando Tapatalk
You should try new DN3 Rom V4 beta...
Just like you, I wanted to switch back to 4.1.2, for battery life and stability because none of 15-20 custom roms on 4.3 that I've tried fit my criteria.
So, I thought I'll try a new beta version of DN3 rom, just to see what's new...
Visually, not much has changed, just a bit faster and smother... Since this was the beta version, I knew I'll have to flash the final release pretty soon, so I started to mess with the rom, deleting unwanted stuff like (Samsung apps, account sync, S pen futures that I don't use, google packages that always run in the backgroung tracking locations etc...) Removed 50+ bloatware/system apps using 2 different tutorial that I found here on XDA...
I was expecting the phone to die after all that, as there isn't much left on it Instead I got a huge improvement in battery life and performance. For the first time, the battery lasts two days! Ram usage is only 500-550MB as opposed to 1000-1.2GB average on previous DN3 builds. Left the phone with 51% woke up 7 hours later - still 51%. All the futures like screen mirroring and syncing with my google account are working flawlessly, no reboots, no FCs, everything seems to be very stable, I even did a full backup of this rom (which I never do unless the Rom 100% perfect)
I encourage to try it and you'll never miss 4.1.2

Should you upgrade your Moto G to 4.4.2 or 4.4.4?

Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
seems like pebkac not buggy firmware . otherwise every single guy would be facing same problems and that's not happening .
ovitz said:
totally disagree. I have european version Moto G with stock 4.4.2 and everything is working perfeclty. Try to wipe you Moto or flash any other rom.
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Just to clarify, did you receive an update package sometime after the primary update?
4.4.3 works fine on my US GSM moto G. But it might be different for others.
Also, add a warning to the OP that if you're already on 4.4.3+, you can't downgrade anymore. Motoboot from 4.4.3+ doesn't seem to like downgrading anymore, unfortunately.
4.2.2 works great, no signal drops or anything. Waiting for eupean 4.4.4. :good:
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Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
I totally agree to ovitz. Updates are supposed to fix issues with older versions of the software. My moto came with 4.4.2 and i never had issues with signal drops. I am from India. Btw it's always better to reset phone after the update.
I agree with you OP on some extent. I also recently downgraded to 4.3 from 4.4.2 just for the lulz, because I was getting "image is too large" error but surprisingly today the flashing was successful. The battery timing has improved, dialer app is cooler than that of the 4.4.2. I'm finding these changes quite interesting because I didn't stay with 4.3 for too long; my Moto G received the KitKat update the moment I powered it on for the first time.
techpick said:
Simple answer - NO.
When a new software release is made for an OS, all the developers would have done is test it on a very few devices within the developers and then roll it out to testers. And after analyzing the bugs identified from these testers, the developers sit on fixing it and finally come up with a release. Now would this release be bug-less? Absolutely not! Remember, its only been tested amongst a very few number of people and the rolling out happens to thousands residing in different parts of the world. If you think about it, what these updates are gonna deal with is a varied number of users, different carriers, sim make etc etc.
Take for example, for Indian users, the 4.4.2 update has been rolled out for quite a while. Lots of bugs were identified since then and the forum managers have been collecting data from the subscribers for quite a while now (Almost 4 months). Still the fix has not happened. And now 4.4.4 is out and issues persist.
I hvae been using 4.3, 4.4.2, then CM11, Mokee ROM etc etc, and now Im finally back to stock 4.3, coz thats the most stable version. So if you are someone who is interested in trying out new releases, please go ahead, but if you are someone who needs a stable ROM with no signal drop issues, please stick to 4.3.
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While I do agree with you for most of what you said, not everyone has bugs or issues with their phones on 4.4.3/4.4.4 upgrade. I myself has had one bug that came with the phone since 4.3 and it's worst now on 4.4.3 and ironically, I've gotten all the bugs on the 4.4.3 that others were getting on 4.4.2. I ended up putting on CM11 because it was getting to me.
P.S. It's impossible to downgrade from 4.4.3/4.4.4. I would love to downgrade back to 4.3. Never got the chance to see how it behaved on my phone because I updated to 4.4.2 the moment I booted for the first time.
Did I mention the "Sign in to WiFi" error on the 4.4.2? That's annoying as hell.
usertag said:
Question is whether downgrading is possible from 4.4.4 ?
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It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
chrisdf said:
It is possible!, download the 4.4 official ROM and do a fastboot and install all the IMG files.
Thats how I did it,
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but you can't downgrade the bootloader, so didn't you get any errors?
Not that guy, Don't touch the motoboot and you should be fine
There's no point of updating your phone unless youare receiving it over OTA. Doing it manually is risky. The only thing that you'll get is new AOSP dialer and few security fixes. There's no reward..no improvement in performance as well as in camera quality. People are reporting bugs all over the globe and they desperatly want to switch back to 4.4.2. Few have them are also facing downgrading issues.
And you want to go through all this for just a minor update? Android L could be a good reason as it is worth updating even after bugs. But a minor update is definitely not.
If some one will ask me which is best ROM for my moto g? I would say Stock 4.4.2. I tried all custom ROMs but no one was as smooth as stock 4.4.2.
Consequences be damn'ed.
Simple answer- yeah, well, that's just like your opinion man.
Indian user. Unlocker my bootloader, Converted to GPE while on 4.4.2. The GpE move was made partly because I had jo desire nor the use if a second sim and mostly because I wanted a clean OS. Period.
Got instant OTA update to 4.4.4 to the day it was pushed.
No issues so far, None in fact and it's been over a week or thereabouts(I admit to the likelihood of me being an isolated case)
Lastly, to each his own.
Android is meant to be taken care of AS WELL tinker every single detail or option if you have the cojones for it. Ciao.
:thumbup:
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I have just upgrade to 4.4.4 XT1033 (Malaysian), noted the missing 2 empty simcard icone and new rather flat dialer! nothing much has changed and certainly hasn't noticed any issue mentioned herein!
If one were to go by op opinion then they would be using 4.3 for the rest of the devices life ! I wonder what his comment would be once L comes to our device.
I have to disagree the OP as an xt1033 owner since march 2014.
Android 4.4.4 OTA for moto g helps fix various sw issues and increased performance,new baseband to aid the radio issues. Media playback is improved. The device is more of a swiss-tool now.
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
Semseddin said:
GPe edition of Moto G running KTU84P.M003 like a dream and eats more battery,too. I wish i could have flashed it earlier.
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Just curious, if it eats more battery how come you call it a dream?

[Q] VRU1BNLC (5.0.2) Status ?

Has anyone installed the newest 5.0.2 (VRU1BNLC) update?
If so, what's the verdict?
I went to Lollipop when first released, but had the same issues as most (overheating, poor performance, and atrocious battery life). Flashed back to 4.4.4 thanks to the awesomeness of XDA and it's great Dev.
Love my s5, but hate to subject it to another poor ROM. However, do enjoy being up to date, and hate having to dismiss the OTA update every day.
So.... what's the update on the newest update?

Note 4 strange update before 5.1.1

So I have a Lithuanian note 4 8 core version and I'm using in the UK. And I plugged into kies and I saw a 1.7 gb update I thought I'll do it over the air instead and tried that and a 25 mb download happened installed and now nothing! I'm still on 5.0.1 and it says I have the latest update . Surely the 5.1.1 is coming? Did you guys see an update like this? Thanks. Ps i could be a little out in the sizes of the packages I guess
Mumraa said:
So I have a Lithuanian note 4 8 core version and I'm using in the UK. And I plugged into kies and I saw a 1.7 gb update I thought I'll do it over the air instead and tried that and a 25 mb download happened installed and now nothing! I'm still on 5.0.1 and it says I have the latest update . Surely the 5.1.1 is coming? Did you guys see an update like this? Thanks. Ps i could be a little out in the sizes of the packages I guess
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Kies downloads the full firmware, so it will always be big. OTAs are usually smaller.
And about the 5.1.1. update, it'll be available when samsung wants it to, no one knows
I don't think it will happen before the Note 5 launch(I hope I am wrong though).
Hmmm yes I see the 5.1.1 update is 623mb as well. Very strange to get that 25mb update after none since lollipop came guess the main one will turn up later....must be some kind of preparation update...guess I thought almost everyone had the main update now...
And about the 5.1.1. update, it'll be available when samsung wants it to, no one knows
I don't think it will happen before the Note 5 launch(I hope I am wrong though).[/QUOTE]
So your not wrong, September's on top of us & the Note 5 is out, still Samsung doesnt give it's late 2014-2015 flagship, Galaxy Note 4 5.1.1 Lollipop. Even Android M is out on preview for a while now to Nexus devices to try. Im so pissed off at the way thing have been. We got their top of the line, best phone & we get treated like ****. If the spec's of Sammy phones werent so good, i'll say goodbye forever to Samsung.
I'll be happy to get 5.1.1 by the end of this year. Android M? ha! gimme 5.1 and we'll talk about Marshmallows!

Lollipop vs KitKat on YotaPhone 2

I have read some reports about bad battery life with Lollipop. Is this true?
KitKat has nicer system UI regarding the use of E-ink screen because KitKat menus, settings etc. use darker backgrounds than Lollipop. That looks better on E-ink on black YotaPhone 2.
What are your thoughts on KitKat vs Lollipop with YotaPhone 2?
I also read some reports about Wifi issues with Lollipop but maybe they were relating to wrong radio being flashed, I don't know.
sonof said:
I have read some reports about bad battery life with Lollipop. Is this true?
KitKat has nicer system UI regarding the use of E-ink screen because KitKat menus, settings etc. use darker backgrounds than Lollipop. That looks better on E-ink on black YotaPhone 2.
What are your thoughts on KitKat vs Lollipop with YotaPhone 2?
I also read some reports about Wifi issues with Lollipop but maybe they were relating to wrong radio being flashed, I don't know.
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Your post just crossed mine (http://forum.xda-developers.com/yotaphone-one/general/battery-life-ru-134-firmware-using-app-t3490355) but for me battery life on Lollipop is great and I have no WiFi issues. The latest RU firmware also has the september 2016 security update. For me it is Lollipop all the way.
Where did you download the latest RU firmware?
In here:
ftp://fw.ydevices.com/YotaPhone2/Firmwares/RU/
The latest is 5.0.0-RU1.1.124.zip
Where to find 134?
sonof said:
Where did you download the latest RU firmware?
In here:
ftp://fw.ydevices.com/YotaPhone2/Firmwares/RU/
The latest is 5.0.0-RU1.1.124.zip
Where to find 134?
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134 is indeed not yet up on the FTP site but if you flash your phone to the 124 version using YotaFlasher it will then update itself to 134 using OTA.
I hate lollipop myself and going to flash back to KitKat toninght.
spinecki said:
I hate lollipop myself and going to flash back to KitKat toninght.
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Why? What problems do you have?
I've noticed my phone got laggy after 3 months or so on Lolopop, but I never used KK.
JernejKobal said:
Why? What problems do you have?
I've noticed my phone got laggy after 3 months or so on Lolopop, but I never used KK.
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I hate LP dialer and menus. I just loved KK and that's mostly why I want to go back
spinecki said:
I hate LP dialer and menus. I just loved KK and that's mostly why I want to go back
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I decided to go back KK but i could't find the stock firmwares for Turkey. Yes i can use RU or EU firmware but i am not sure for finding the right baseband for me. Any idea will be appreciated?
sozen said:
I decided to go back KK but i could't find the stock firmwares for Turkey. Yes i can use RU or EU firmware but i am not sure for finding the right baseband for me. Any idea will be appreciated?
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Both will work. Baseband is not a firmware thing.
Am going to downgrade from Marshmallow to Kitkat.
There are issues such as more battery drain than its supposed to be, phone overheats too much (never happened on kitkat before) and Marshmallow's white theme makes me sick as there is no option to change it to dark so it doesn't really fit in Yotaphone 2 unless you have white version which is pretty rare one. YotaStore apps arent compatibile with MM 6.0.1 so..
There are new things that are improved or added but still wont use it
Sukalya said:
Am going to downgrade from Marshmallow to Kitkat.
There are issues such as more battery drain than its supposed to be, phone overheats too much (never happened on kitkat before) and Marshmallow's white theme makes me sick as there is no option to change it to dark so it doesn't really fit in Yotaphone 2 unless you have white version which is pretty rare one. YotaStore apps arent compatibile with MM 6.0.1 so..
There are new things that are improved or added but still wont use it
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I have used mine with Nova launcher which allows you to make dark theme. But I am still going to do the same for especially overheating problem. Indeed i've faced lots of problems with MM:
- Overheating on almost every situation including EPD reading/browsing/maps etc.
- if (esp. extreme) YotaEnergy is activated, Mobile Network is killed/blocked until restart the phone. Disabling YotaEnergy again doesn't solve the problem
- EPD screen lock insensibility randomly
- very restricted settings on MM
- etc.
Update1:
I have installed KK (4.4.3-S01-003-RU1.0.3.61a). Findings:
- battery seems a little bit ok compared MM
- overheating problem is same i think
- EPD screen resolution is awfull
- As known, all apps are outdated
- KK interface is also offensive compared with my old KitKat installed Optimus G Pro
So, i have to try Lollipop
Update2:
I have finally installed LP (5.0.0-RU1.1.134 ). It is ok:
- battery is optimum, there is no drain and stable
- no unexpected overheating, it is ok!
- EPD screen resolution is good
- I wish i could launch the color screen directly from EPD screen like on MM shortcut. For EPD, MM is better.
Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.
bohwaz said:
Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.
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You are right! After a few week trying, heating problem seems same. Because of that i have decreased CPU clock Frequency to 1267MHz+conservative. The heating problem decreases nearly fifty fifty.
bohwaz said:
Unfortunately even after downgrading to kitkat then update to lollipop (RU or EU) I still get the overheating issues
Before upgrading to MM it was fine, but from that point it began to overheat and I can't get it to stay cool again.
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If you want to try the first stock rom which is preinstalled 4.4.3-S01-003-ME1.0.3.61a for me, i can provide you a full TWRP backup (system, data, boot).

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