Instant boot android systems? FlyAudio? - Android Head-Units

Hi,
I have one very important request when looking for a new head unit.
I have a VW Tiguan, and with some searching I found a russian head unit called FlyAudio G7007F09.
More info here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/4990455/ (in russian).
Also check this boot comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJfV2GILD5A
How does that work, how is it possible to boot up in 2 sec while everyone else is about 20 secs?
Is there an internal battery?
Can't find much info about this unit, and I want to know more, because it looks interesting.
Also found this video of it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEvS6SMLegE
Does anyone know of any more android head units that boot up instantly?
Thank you!

How do you know that unit wasn't just "sleeping?" Mine will do that - sleep for 5 minutes after being shut down, and come back in a couple of seconds. If it's off for more than 5 minutes, then it does a full boot. Some firmware/MCU combinations let you set that up to 2 hours.

mike.s said:
How do you know that unit wasn't just "sleeping?" Mine will do that - sleep for 5 minutes after being shut down, and come back in a couple of seconds. If it's off for more than 5 minutes, then it does a full boot. Some firmware/MCU combinations let you set that up to 2 hours.
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I don't know, but why would they do a comparison if it were just sleeping?
That is why im asking, on the review page I posted (in russian) it does say something about instant boot, but can't really understand it as google translate is pretty bad on russian language.

joq3 said:
I don't know, but why would they do a comparison if it were just sleeping?
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Really? You don't think they might want to make their product look better so they can sell more?

This thing really works very well. I've purchased FlyAudio G9 series.
I've tested its boot time after a week of not using my car (that was a pretty cold week from -15 to -25 celcius): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQLcVI7D890 (In Russian)
As far as I understand FlyAudio uses Quallcomm's fastboot feature (since it is based on Quallcomm 80x SoC). Device goes to a deep sleeping mode and consumes circa 2mA/h which is basically nothing. In my case it was in sleeping mode for a week and launched during 2-3 seconds.
P.S. This is not a Russian but a Chineese head unit (http://flyaudio.cn/)

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Change Standby beyond 2 hours

Hi Guys,
I have the RK3188 1024 * 600 Quadcore unit from Joying, I have installed the latest rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60591423&postcount=12068. Is there a way i can increase the sleep time beyond 2 hours. 2 hours sucks, i am hardly ever back in my car within 2 hours. I figure it must be possible as a friend has one (not sure what unit, i think 4.2) his is set to 48 hours.
If not, can someone point me in the right direction to try do it with xposed or something? I am a developer, but only in the .NET space. I am sure i could work something out if i have to though haha.
Any success in here?
I'd like to know also but i've not found anything.
I was about to post a thread asking this but instead will bump this one.
I'm also very interested to increase the shutdown delay.

Joying feature questions.

Hi everyone.
I've been looking into head units and came across this forum. I've spent many hours scouring through the threads here. This is an awesome place!!
I wanted to ask a couple of questions that I haven't found solid answers for as yet.
I'm looking at this unit - JY-NM124N2 as it is supposed to suit my Nissan. Should I be looking at something else or would this be a decent choice?
Question 1 is how well do they "plug & play" with the original equipment?
Question 2 regards the boot up time. If I turn the car off for the night. When I start it in the morning (10 hours later), will it be a 15 second boot or just a 2-3 second boot? I've read conflicting answers. (e.g. Does the unit shut down or just sleep?)
Questing 3 regards Google Maps. I know on a phone, you can download maps for offline use, but they get deleted after 30 days I think. Can maps be downloaded permanently for these units as I won't have internet on this thing most of the time.
Cheers for your time.
Hoffy.
Hoffy76 said:
Hi everyone.
I've been looking into head units and came across this forum. I've spent many hours scouring through the threads here. This is an awesome place!!
I wanted to ask a couple of questions that I haven't found solid answers for as yet.
I'm looking at this unit - JY-NM124N2 as it is supposed to suit my Nissan. Should I be looking at something else or would this be a decent choice?
Question 1 is how well do they "plug & play" with the original equipment?
Question 2 regards the boot up time. If I turn the car off for the night. When I start it in the morning (10 hours later), will it be a 15 second boot or just a 2-3 second boot? I've read conflicting answers. (e.g. Does the unit shut down or just sleep?)
Questing 3 regards Google Maps. I know on a phone, you can download maps for offline use, but they get deleted after 30 days I think. Can maps be downloaded permanently for these units as I won't have internet on this thing most of the time.
Cheers for your time.
Hoffy.
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Mostly plug and play. You mentioned a brand and not a specific model etc so its hard to tell. Many of these units don't need anything extra to interface with steering buttons etc. If you have an external amp you may need to obtain a wiring harness made for that to mate to the unit. Not always though since Joying does have some model specific wiring harnesses.
If things are working there should be a short boot most of the time.
I personally don't know about google map offline map expiration, but 30 days seems acceptable. You can use a hotspot on your car or pull up to a cafe with wife and not even get out of the car. I use Here maps which does a great job with offline maps and offline mode, but its a personal preference.
Thanks for the quick reply.
The boot time is the most important detail I was trying to confirm.
I guess there are other Navi apps that include offline maps that I could buy if Google maps isn't useful to me.
Would be keen to hear others experience with boot times too.
Cheers.
Hoffy76 said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
The boot time is the most important detail I was trying to confirm.
I guess there are other Navi apps that include offline maps that I could buy if Google maps isn't useful to me.
Would be keen to hear others experience with boot times too.
Cheers.
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If you switch the unit to Dormancy on, it will take 1-3 seconds. After 72 hours (or so), it will go to deep sleep and it will take slightly longer.
If you really switch it off it has to completely boot which will take longer.
Google maps has this 30 policy. It has absolutely nothing to do with Joying, or Witson, or Samsung or Lenovo/Motorola or whatever brand.
So of course this same 30 day policy is also applicable for the joying.
Hoffy76 said:
I'm looking at this unit - JY-NM124N2 as it is supposed to suit my Nissan. Should I be looking at something else or would this be a decent choice?
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My opinion is that the Joying Intel Sofia it's best at the moment hardware wise... maybe not so good software wise but it's mode then adequate with the mods that we have right now.
Hoffy76 said:
Question 1 is how well do they "plug & play" with the original equipment?
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For my Ford was plug and play with some minor nodifications.
Hoffy76 said:
Question 2 regards the boot up time. If I turn the car off for the night. When I start it in the morning (10 hours later), will it be a 15 second boot or just a 2-3 second boot? I've read conflicting answers. (e.g. Does the unit shut down or just sleep?)
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My experince : it maintains sleep mode for 3 days.... 72 hours... after that it shutsdown and the startup is 50-60 seconds boot up. More then adequate for daily use.
Hoffy76 said:
Questing 3 regards Google Maps. I know on a phone, you can download maps for offline use, but they get deleted after 30 days I think. Can maps be downloaded permanently for these units as I won't have internet on this thing most of the time.
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Google maps is the same app no matter if it's on the phone of the headunit... same rules... 30 days. You can install other navigation apps with offline maps like Here We Go.
For more information about the Joying read my extensive Q&A from my signature.
Awesome. Thank you all for the great input.
You've convinced me this is the unit to buy. Will be getting one soon and will do some of the mods you guys have created. Hopefully, all goes well.
Keep up the great work.
Joying is pretty great
Hoffy76 said:
Hi everyone.
I've been looking into head units and came across this forum. I've spent many hours scouring through the threads here. This is an awesome place!!
I wanted to ask a couple of questions that I haven't found solid answers for as yet.
I'm looking at this unit - JY-NM124N2 as it is supposed to suit my Nissan. Should I be looking at something else or would this be a decent choice?
Question 1 is how well do they "plug & play" with the original equipment?
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There is no such thing as "plug & play" when it comes to cars. You will need a dash kit, and you will need to either do some wiring, or buy a special wire made for between that radio and your car. Aftermarket radios don't even standardize amongst themselves.
Question 2 regards the boot up time. If I turn the car off for the night. When I start it in the morning (10 hours later), will it be a 15 second boot or just a 2-3 second boot? I've read conflicting answers. (e.g. Does the unit shut down or just sleep?)
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There is no boot up the next morning. When you turn on the ignition key, what it does is equivalent to turning the screen back on on your smartphone.
There is also nothing anywhere in it that is "15 seconds". If it has to do a full bootup, it takes a heck of a lot longer than 15 seconds.
Questing 3 regards Google Maps. I know on a phone, you can download maps for offline use, but they get deleted after 30 days I think. Can maps be downloaded permanently for these units as I won't have internet on this thing most of the time.
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Sure, just not with google maps. Try Alk Copilot.
luciusfox said:
There is no such thing as "plug & play" when it comes to cars. You will need a dash kit, and you will need to either do some wiring, or buy a special wire made for between that radio and your car. Aftermarket radios don't even standardize amongst themselves..
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normally I would agree with you, but Joying does make some things pretty close to plug and play. For my first Joying that was Jeep specific, it was plug and play.

What unit should I replace my S160 with?

Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum and just recently went into the world of Android Head Units.
I few months ago I bought a S160 Android Head Unit (4.4.4) and even though it works ok, I find it super slow and one of my main issues is that you can't run Google Maps properly because it makes it absurdly slow (I assume its due to the fact it only has 1GB of memory)
Now I'm looking to potentially replace my S160 with another unit that is quicker. I've seen the newly released S190 but also heard about PX3, PX5 which I admit I don't fully know the difference.
Main needs for me in the main unit would be:
1. Be quick enough to be able to run google maps and other Android apps (Google play music, YT etc)
2. Improved boot time -- sleep option would be a plus
3. Have proper support/documentation to keep it running for a long time
Any units currently in the market that would be certain upgrade from the S160 and would have the requirements above?
Thanks!
I've got the s190 and love it
I tested so many sat have including Google, and not one of them is slow, at all
Also I put my unit into "auto sleep" which draws 9mA, which is hardly anything, and it powers on straight away, no waiting time or boot loading
Jstyants said:
I've got the s190 and love it
I tested so many sat have including Google, and not one of them is slow, at all
Also I put my unit into "auto sleep" which draws 9mA, which is hardly anything, and it powers on straight away, no waiting time or boot loading
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Can you share the link from where you bought yours? I've seen multiple sites selling the S190 and different specs.
Thanks!
CarNaviPlayer
Mine was the 2004 ForFour

Sleep Mode in V1Pro 4Gb 64Gb 8 Core

Hello!
I have purchased a V1 Pro 8 Core 4Gb 64Gb with 8259 processor. But it is very slow when starting, so I have activated the "Sleep Mode" option that means that when the vehicle starts the equipment is already on the launch screen (I have put agama car launcher), but I'm afraid that the battery of the vehicle will run out. The question is, does anyone of you have this option activated for a long time? Have you noticed a worrying battery consumption? Is there a risk of running out of battery by activating this option?
Thank you
JoTaSu said:
Hello!
I have purchased a V1 Pro 8 Core 4Gb 64Gb with 8259 processor. But it is very slow when starting, so I have activated the "Sleep Mode" option that means that when the vehicle starts the equipment is already on the launch screen (I have put agama car launcher), but I'm afraid that the battery of the vehicle will run out. The question is, does anyone of you have this option activated for a long time? Have you noticed a worrying battery consumption? Is there a risk of running out of battery by activating this option?
Thank you
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Don't have trouble using sleep mode. After four days the head unit shuts down to prevent draining of the cars battery.
The sleep mode is implemented aggressively and an app preventing the heat unit from sleep will be killed.
TorstenH said:
Don't have trouble using sleep mode. After four days the head unit shuts down to prevent draining of the cars battery.
The sleep mode is implemented aggressively and an app preventing the heat unit from sleep will be killed.
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Ok. Thanks for your answer.
TorstenH said:
Don't have trouble using sleep mode. After four days the head unit shuts down to prevent draining of the cars battery.
The sleep mode is implemented aggressively and an app preventing the heat unit from sleep will be killed.
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Should that be the same for a V1 2Gb 32Gb model? Or is there any difference?
Unfortunately, the forum crystal ball doesnt know what you unit is and from the hundreds of made up models and brands, the seller could be selling units of different types, from different factories, despite branding with the same model name.
There are are a small number of active members in these forums, you want to be posting in a way that helps those people help you, they're likely tired of answering the same questions for new users that join, get the answer (often unanswered) and then leave.
Post screenshots from Android system information, including the MCU version when posting questions. Doing this will at least help others help you, or you might find the information has already been posted or discussed here, yourself.

Android 10 SPRD head unit

Hi guys I'm new on here, i do apologise if i have posted on the wrong area , i have a Chinese 10.1 inch android SPRD head unit with android 10 installed. I have fallen out with the guy i bought it off as there was a lot of miss advertisements on advert which did not match when i got the unit.
However thats another story and wont get into it, what i want to know and if anyone can help me i will really appreciate it as iv tried everything and getting no where. So here are my problems :-
1, Upgrading android 10 to android 11.. there seems to be no menu that has the upgrade option, so how can i upgrade to android 11 or twelve? And How do i upgrade mcu version?
2, im having problems with GPS when car is on i loose gps signal to like half of one bar.. when car/ignition is turned off GPS comes alive and get good signal and catches satellites.. what does this happen? Whats the solution?
3, i cant change the icons on home screen, cant change/add on tool bar, no bluetooth button to turn on and off on bar on top of screen.. but blue tooth is there works fine when connecting phone and bluetooth icon shows on top bar when connected..
4, the android version seems very limited on this unit, even in developer settings there dont seem to be many adjustments options to turn on or off.. i have a meter display shows cars rom gauge and speedometer its all im KM and there is no options anywhere to change this..
5, system does not shut down when car ignition goes off, i have to manually shut it down, even tho in settings its set to shut down when acc off! Any suggestions?
I have attached pictures of GPS ignition off and one of ignition on.. also all the build software info pictures too..
Any help would be appreciated
You have an UIS7862-based FYT unit. Pretty common and there's a dedicated thread with plenty of info. Now, for your questions:
1. There is no (real) Android 11 or 12 for these units.
2. Change the location of the GPS antenna. Radio works OK when car is on?
3+4. Get a different launcher and/or custom ROM. Launchers here
5. did you change that in factory settings? If you did then you probably have an error in wiring.
Also, this post should be moved to the FYT Android Head Units area
m00n61 said:
You have an UIS7862-based FYT unit. Pretty common and there's a dedicated thread with plenty of info. Now, for your questions:
1. There is no (real) Android 11 or 12 for these units.
2. Change the location of the GPS antenna. Radio works OK when car is on?
3+4. Get a different launcher and/or custom ROM. Launchers here
5. did you change that in factory settings? If you did then you probably have an error in wiring.
Also, this post should be moved to the FYT Android Head Units area
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Hi firstly thank you so much for your response and information.
1. mine has android 10 loaded.. but have seen others with android 11 and layout set up different to mine. Mine was supposed to be 11 setup but in a nutshell wasnt sold what was advertised. :/ so i would like to load android 11 on at least, i assume there is a way to do this?
2, i have changed location tried behind dash tried on top of dash tried even dangling it out the pan roof but same problem when ignition off gps signal goes up, soon as ignition on or car started signal drops to 1 satellite. Yes everything else works fine just gps problem.
3-4 i will have a look at what you have sent.
5, yes there is two options one for putting unit to sleep and other to turn off unit when ACC is off.. but it doesn't turn it off i have to manually turn it off
Any more help advice would be great thank you.. ps i will put this post on where you have said.
Thanks again
Saffy79 said:
Hi firstly thank you so much for your response and information.
1. mine has android 10 loaded.. but have seen others with android 11 and layout set up different to mine. Mine was supposed to be 11 setup but in a nutshell wasnt sold what was advertised. :/ so i would like to load android 11 on at least, i assume there is a way to do this?
2, i have changed location tried behind dash tried on top of dash tried even dangling it out the pan roof but same problem when ignition off gps signal goes up, soon as ignition on or car started signal drops to 1 satellite. Yes everything else works fine just gps problem.
3-4 i will have a look at what you have sent.
5, yes there is two options one for putting unit to sleep and other to turn off unit when ACC is off.. but it doesn't turn it off i have to manually turn it off
Any more help advice would be great thank you.. ps i will put this post on where you have said.
Thanks again
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What you have seen is the ability to fake the android versions. The chinese seller use the ability quite often. They fake CPU specs, ram amount, software versions and other things... There are some apps out there, that can proof those fakes. So, there is no android 11 or 12 for your device. It's just all android 10.

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