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Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.

I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.

Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)

I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?

Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?

Cons one by one:
itzik_man said:
- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
itzik_man said:
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
itzik_man said:
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
itzik_man said:
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
itzik_man said:
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
itzik_man said:
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
itzik_man said:
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.

don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...

At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.

itzik_man said:
Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.

I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.

We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.

Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !

Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.

To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.

Skrilax_CZ said:
Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?

itzik_man said:
The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"

So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.

The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.

[BootLoader/Root Discussion] No Bounty, Just plain discussion

Okay we have a Bounty thread... Leave that for just plain Bounty pledges..
In here feel free to talk about BootLoader discusions, Root discussions..

Nice thread. Would be nice to discuss about Moto Maxx root as well. Since it has unlockable bootloader, I believe root is pretty doable, but I have no idea how to, since there's no custom recovery yet.

Nice thread.... looking forward
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some one knows how can we help to find a exploit or something that will make our Turbo able to get root??

When lollipop gets released for the Turbo, I'm going to have a tough decision. I really want that sweet new lollipop, but I also know that the chances of rooting it will go down significantly. So, the question is, should we stay on KitKat in hopes of getting root? It's going to be really hard to resist 5.0. And since the 2014 Moto X just got it, I think we're not far behind.

There's a vulnerability in KitKat, we just have to figure out how to exploit it. CVE-2014-7911. More info can be found at http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51.

Your chances of getting root with LP and a locked bootloader depend on an exploit which has yet to be found and that may be some time and on some phones has never happened on previous operating systems. You would be much better off if the phone was released for unrestricted world wide sales but being CDMA and a Verizon exclusive is guaranteed to prevent the large scale adoption that would have made it more attractive to developers. Realistically no one here knows better than you whether root is more important than getting LP are for you. For my purposes I consider root a must have while having no issues with kk which I like just fine which would make it an easy choice.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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Maybe. With Qualcomm chips, it's possible to make reverting to an older version result in a hard brick. With Big Red's knowledge of what they can do, unfortunately, they might implement this "feature". Plus, a vulnerability has already been found. We just need to figure out how to exploit it.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
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At least with my Motorola RAZR M, every time they had a big version upgrade they also upgraded the security partition (which would be incompatible with prior firmwares), making it impossible to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.

I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.

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I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
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I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?

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I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
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Yeah, sure. I'll send I sent you a PM.

Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.

greekstile said:
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
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Yes, but not if you're about to send it back. I'll get another one. I wouldn't be able to test if the unlock worked.

When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?

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When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the qfuse gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
EDIT: qfuse, stupid autocorrect

I'm willing to give it a shot. Just let me know.

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With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the cause gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
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i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo

danger2u said:
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
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How does one have a Turbo that is eligible for unlocked bootloader? This sounds like candy covered in gold to me.

[UNLOCK] Bootloader unlock for MotoX 2014 via Sunshine!

Greetings!
As of today there is a method to completely unlock the bootloader on all variants (yes, this includes the Verizon and AT&T models). The one stipulation is you need to have root.
DISCLAIMER #0: This is NOT MY WORK. I'm merely posting steps to use other peoples' work (with permission) in order to achieve an unlocked device. Do not donate to me for this. Any donations sent to me for this post will be promptly returned and you will be publicly shamed, most likely Game of Thrones style, for not reading the entire OP and following directions.
DISCLAIMER #1: Unlocking your device is dangerous! I am in no way responsible for anything that happens to you, your device, your significant other, or any random person that you feel the need to harm after this destroys your device! You are making the decision to run these tools and you alone are responsible for the consequences!
DISCLAIMER #2: As of right now this method has ONLY been tested on variants running kitkat (4.4) roms/bootloaders. Do not be the first to try it on a lollipop version without first understanding the risks. If you try and successfully use this method on lollipop (5.x) please let me know so I adjust this post accordingly.
DISCLAIMER #3: Do not attempt to re-lock your bootloader after using Sunshine. It is unclear how the device will act and you may end up with one of these.
PREFACE:
- You're going to want adb and fastboot set up on your computer. If you don't know what these are, or don't know how to set them up, google it. Having these tools is insanely helpful anyway for debugging and getting logs for developers later. You're going to want these in the long run.
- This method in the end is going to set you back $25. Sunshine is the tool used to unlock the bootloader and the people that develop this spend insane amounts of time developing/breaking/buying devices. Trust me, its worth it.
- Enable Unknown sources in Settings > Security before starting
STEP 1: Root (This root method only works on 4.4. If you are already rooted, say via mofo or another method, you may skip to step 2)
- You just skipped to this step didn't you? Go read the disclaimers and the preface. They are extremely important.
- Root your phone using KingRoot (obviously click the image with the little android guy on it) mirror
Code:
adb install -r <filename>.apk
- Run it from your app drawer and follow the prompts. I did have it fail a couple times, if that happens, try rebooting and running it again. I also had it say it failed a couple times, but still was able to gain root by typing 'su' in an adb shell.
- KingRoot is a temp root, which means upon a reboot, you will lose root and need to run it again. That's fine for our purposes here, it gives us the in we need for the bootloader exploit (see step 2)
STEP 2: Unlock That Bootloader
- This step involves running an app called Sunshine. Download the apk from there and install it:
Code:
adb install -r <filename>.apk
- Again, this unlock will cost you a one time fee of $25, more info on their FAQ. There seems to be a lot of animosity about this, but in the end the choice is yours. An extreme amount of development time goes in to these types of exploits and these guys do a fantastic job. It is worth it.
- Follow the prompts, get out the wallet, and enjoy an unlocked bootloader!
STEP 3: Install a custom recovery
- This could be considered an optional step, but there's really no reason to go through all of this if you don't plan to do some custom things. Custom recovery allows you to install/backup/restore ROMs on your phone.
- Follow the instructions here now that you have an unlocked bootloader in order to install TWRP.
STEP 4: Enjoy!
- You now have a completely unlocked phone! Start installing roms, enjoy yourself! Be careful though! Make sure you are only flashing things that are known to work on this device.

SunShine 3.1.16 is out, better support for MotoX 2014, including custom roms

Just ran Sunshine 3.1.17 on my 5.1 XT1097 rooted via MoFo, device is unlocked and working flawlessly.

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(This root method only works on 4.4. If you are already rooted, say via mofo or another method, you may skip to step 2)
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Kingroot is available for MX14 XT1085 (Chinese MX14) running 5.1. Do you think it will work on a MX14 XT1096 running 5.1?

JulesJam said:
Kingroot is available for MX14 XT1085 (Chinese MX14) running 5.1. Do you think it will work on a MX14 XT1096 running 5.1?
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Only way to know is try if okay with the risks.
We talked about it in the general thread. Sometimes it even works on other devices running 5.1.1 (even not officially supported). I cannot assume the risk being my only phone to try.
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There are posts of it working for other devices. It will fail a couple of times and then just work. Also cases where the phone won't boot anymore. More of the latter now.
Not attempting and I suggest others dont either. Risk outweighs rewards with this being my main phone.
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jcase said:
Kingroot shouldnt cause the phone to stop booting, odd. Thanks for makign the thread btw
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Not bootng is horribly ambiguous wording on my part.
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My shield is running 5.1..1. I tried kingroot 4.5, since others have reported success and now my tablet won't boot past the nvidia screen. Anyone else encountered this issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/root-kingroot-t3112722/page4
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Kingroot is available for MX14 XT1085 (Chinese MX14) running 5.1. Do you think it will work on a MX14 XT1096 running 5.1?
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I tried it (several times). It doesn't.
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I did mofo yesterday and did SunShine today, worked great. I had 5.0 on my 1096.
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Any known root methods for 5.1 yet? AT&T Moto X via OTA.

I have tried both kingroot and mofo. Neither work for the xt1097 att variant on 5.1. However looking on some pages on xda noticed that the xt1097 from Brazil has the same specs as the att variant. The files look pretty much the same as well. Do you think it would be possible to flash the 5.1 Brazil to the att without bricking? Bootloader is also the same. Flash the Brazil over the att and then try Motorola unlock tool online

christopher68369 said:
I have tried both kingroot and mofo. Neither work for the xt1097 att variant on 5.1. However looking on some pages on xda noticed that the xt1097 from Brazil has the same specs as the att variant. The files look pretty much the same as well. Do you think it would be possible to flash the 5.1 Brazil to the att without bricking? Bootloader is also the same. Flash the Brazil over the att and then try Motorola unlock tool online
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No
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christopher68369 said:
I have tried both kingroot and mofo. Neither work for the xt1097 att variant on 5.1. However looking on some pages on xda noticed that the xt1097 from Brazil has the same specs as the att variant. The files look pretty much the same as well. Do you think it would be possible to flash the 5.1 Brazil to the att without bricking? Bootloader is also the same. Flash the Brazil over the att and then try Motorola unlock tool online
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It won't work. You can't flash the firmware from other carriers with a locked bootloader. It will fail when you try.
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Only firmware you can flash with a locked bootloader has to contain the same signature of the firmware your on, which is literally only that firmware. EG. ATT 5.1 sig does not match any other sig.

Yes I realised that after doing research. Butbim wondering if we were able to change the cid to lets say the Brazil variant if we would be able to flash the firmware. If we could maybe change the cid from dfs software or GSM tools software and then try to flash the firmware if it would work. If someone knew how to change the cid without root I wouldn't mind trying it out to see if it would work. I'm planning on buying the moto x pure edition that comes out on Sept 2 but i f I was able to unlock the bootloader then I wouldn't really mind waiting on a new phone for another year since the moto x 2014 is really a great phone and with root has alot of potential

Same problem, you can't do that either without root and bootloader unlocked. There is no way to do it until someone can find a vulnerability in the 5.1 firmware. For now you are stuck.
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I don't understand. Motorola officially provides the way to unlock bootloaders. Why does this method exist? Does this method help unlock bootloaders of devices that cannot be unlocked or something like that?

Yes, this is only for the Verizon xt1096 and the AT&T xt1097. Those 2 models cannot unlock their bootloader from motorola's website. This is a method to get around that and unlock it anyway.
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So I have a Verizon model XT1096 running 5.0.
From the searches I've performed and from what I've read so far, Root can be achieved via Mofo (kingroot failed) and then I can unlock the bootloader via sunshine and then flash TWRP, flash a 5.1.1 ROM and I'm good to go?
There are several threads with a little info here and there, so I apologize for the questions. I just want to get my ducks in a row.

You are correct.
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Ed Murray said:
So I have a Verizon model XT1096 running 5.0.
From the searches I've performed and from what I've read so far, Root can be achieved via Mofo (kingroot failed) and then I can unlock the bootloader via sunshine and then flash TWRP, flash a 5.1.1 ROM and I'm good to go?
There are several threads with a little info here and there, so I apologize for the questions. I just want to get my ducks in a row.
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Kingroot said that it failed for me but sunshine still worked normally afterwards. If you haven't already paid for mofo then you can just pay for sunshine
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Moto X 2013 (Verizon and ATT) got root on 5.1 with locked bootloader. Maybe we can use the same exploit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/root-moto-x-att-xt1058-5-1-lpa23-12-21-1-t3164125

Sprint S7 unlocked: Is there a way to update it safely?

Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!

nmarz3 said:
Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
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I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure

shooterlgk said:
I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!

nmarz3 said:
Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Yea ur safest bet is to keep it as it is so u wont lose that. No problem

nmarz3 said:
Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.

marcviado said:
Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks

nmarz3 said:
Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
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Yes! You are in the wrong forum though. You are on sprint but need to be with the enxyos forum ND running their tarp and roms

Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.

xronikus said:
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
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I can confirm that updating over OTA will NOT screw with the unlock of the device. If your samsung pay does not work i would disable knox with a package disabler app to receive samsung pay in you new updated state.

OTA update from PC5 to PH7 on unlocked phone went smoothly.
Thanks

I have a unlocked Sprint S7 but im outside of America, is there any way i can update without losing the unlock? i don't want to end with an expensive brick.
Im stuck in G930PVPU2APC5 and i can't receive OTA updates

I bought unlocked sprint s7 that I'm using with metro PCS, but it's not letting me update the profile and because of that I'm not getting the wifi hotspot option. How do I get it to work?

@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling

nmarz3 said:
@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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I already tried that, smart switch says there is no update available.

Updated software today - ads are back :(

I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!

topslop1 said:
I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!
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I don't recall anyone getting an Amazon update. Sadly you did answer a question I'm sure all the Amazon G4 owners had.

I have the same experience - can we use the same process as before, or use the just posted factory image?

Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.

brownd7380 said:
Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.
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If you're rooted you can't install an OTA but it doesn't matter if you're unlocked. Once you've used the unlock code from MOTO you're always unlocked and won't have to enter it again. If for some way they've managed to relock it on the Amazon ad phones then I would imagine they've also blocked it from a future unlock. In the past though once unlocked the bootloader is always unlocked.

I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.

topslop1 said:
I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.
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I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.

Tel864 said:
I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.
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gotcha, unfortunately these ones you can't unlock

You are more likely to find help in the Moto G4 section. This is Moto G4 plus, of which there is no Amazon variant.