With all the speculation on the Snapdragon 810 breathing fire and the Lg G4's 808 subjected to throttling (as evident in the Asus ZF2 Vs Lg G4 video from Lb s on YouTube) I hope that the statements made by the Asus bigwigs to switch to SD from Intel Atom are back tracked and even Intel should continue with the ZF2 as a prime example for its performance where others are quite simply failing to deliver for the sky high price being asked!
your thoughts!?
SBFarooq said:
With all the speculation on the Snapdragon 810 breathing fire and the Lg G4's 808 subjected to throttling (as evident in the Asus ZF2 Vs Lg G4 video from Lb s on YouTube) I hope that the statements made by the Asus bigwigs to switch to SD from Intel Atom are back tracked and even Intel should continue with the ZF2 as a prime example for its performance where others are quite simply failing to deliver for the sky high price being asked!
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I think i've watched an interview before where ASUS said they will make the next model packed w/ SD. Not so sure since I cant quite remember where I watched the video interview.
MrKoji said:
I think i've watched an interview before where ASUS said they will make the next model packed w/ SD. Not so sure since I cant quite remember where I watched the video interview.
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I know about that interview and it is exactly my point, they shouldn't, I mean with all the evidence now pointing towards the dragon why tinker with something which isn't requiring a fix?
Hmmm a switch from Intel to SD 810 (as mentioned here) wouldn't be useful. Let's think about: All devices with SD 810 or 808 are in the highend category. Prices around 600 bucks and upwards.
We shouldn't forget that an ZenFone 2 is still midrange (regarding the price). So as long as ASUS isn't going for an high-end device, there is no need for an such a pricey SOC .
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Hudrator said:
Hmmm a switch from Intel to SD 810 (as mentioned here) wouldn't be useful. Let's think about: All devices with SD 810 or 808 are in the highend category. Prices around 600 bucks and upwards.
We shouldn't forget that an ZenFone 2 is still midrange (regarding the price). So as long as ASUS isn't going for an high-end device, there is no need for an such a pricey SOC .
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the soc actually makes up a fraction of the total phone cost.. so a switch probably wouldnt necessarily result in the phone price increasing by that much (just take a look at xiaomi)
that aside.. the S810 is seriously a disappointment this time around.. and it would make sense for asus to stick to the atom for this generation
It surly is just a small amount of the price. But it is not a question of material costs. It's a dicision how to enter a special market segment. And that would be the high end class.
Even Xiaomi isn't cheap here in Europe. If you purchase the Mi Note Pro at the moment at a reliable shop and paying normal taxes, we are talking about 650 Euros. Galaxy S6 is here 730 (64GB) or 600 (32GB)...LG G4 for 650Euros. The M9 goes for 550 Euros.
There would be no need for ASUS aiming at price below 550 Euros due to not enough competition in this segment.
And that 550 Euros are nearly twice as much I have payed for my ZenFone 2.
The only manufacturer showing us how you could possibly go below that point is OnePlus. But I really don't want to wait on somebody who is kind enough to give me at least an invite to buy a phone...
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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True story. If i wouldn't say that price / value are well balencend on this device, i wouldn't have switched from my Note 4 (and earning money for using a phone for 3 months )
I think they will be capable to deliver a "new" ZenFone 2, whitch is able to outperform this generation in a year. At the same price range. We will have the a new generation of SOCs, camera sensors... and so on. And there will still be a "midrange" or the "old" high end. The only question is: Is ASUS willing to to do so?
ASUS is faceing a really hard competion in midrange market. Aspecially in asia. You have all the Jiyavu's, Siswoo's, elephone's, Xiaomi's, etc. And they all have quiet good price / value ratio. And nearly the same hardware.
For example: I could choose between a Jiyavu S3 Advance for nealy 300€ or the ASUS for 320€ (normal price with shipment around 390€). Differences 3GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM, CPU and Graphics power will be nearly the same in reallife, camera sensor Sony vs. Toshiba, both Dual-Sim, screensize / resolution and Mirco SD extension.
I choose ASUS because i got more RAM and a slightly better CPU for 20€... Would it be the normal price i maybe had choose the Jiyavu... (At the moment I ' m happy for going with ASUS ).
Back to Topic. If ASUS wants to deliver more midrange phones, i think they will stick with Intel. Price / Value seems to be at a sweetspot. Only MediaTech is able to deliver kind of compareable hardware for midrange phones (there seems to be a reason why the MT 6752 is in nearly every new "Chinaphone").
If ASUS wants to build a highend device, well, SD will be an option also MediaTech. I'm not quiet sure what Intel got in there portfolio.
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But I think of this situation slightly differently... Price being subjective, it's more about the quality that you would end up with... Would you in all honesty buy a flagship with a chipset used as an oven or pay half price for something which works right now.... The problem with ZF2 is going to be its own success ... The ZF3 would be required to out perform and outsell naturally but at what price .. If the current value stands at 390$ then I would want to see something in the area of 450/470$ .... No holds bared ... Mean machine
For the ones who can't spend 1000$ on a G4.. Let them have the S6/7 or M9 or G5s... Just give us our chance to geek out over a phone which doesn't require an arm or a leg to own!
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This makes sense if smartphone tech wasn't rapidly improving and getting cheaper by the minute. By the time Zenfone 3 comes around, a more powerful SoC will be available at a cheaper price point.
On a side note, I've found the MT6752 based phones to be significantly snappier all-around than Z3560.
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It surly is just a small amount of the price. But it is not a question of material costs. It's a dicision how to enter a special market segment. And that would be the high end class.
Even Xiaomi isn't cheap here in Europe. If you purchase the Mi Note Pro at the moment at a reliable shop and paying normal taxes, we are talking about 650 Euros. Galaxy S6 is here 730 (64GB) or 600 (32GB)...LG G4 for 650Euros. The M9 goes for 550 Euros.
There would be no need for ASUS aiming at price below 550 Euros due to not enough competition in this segment.
And that 550 Euros are nearly twice as much I have payed for my ZenFone 2.
The only manufacturer showing us how you could possibly go below that point is OnePlus. But I really don't want to wait on somebody who is kind enough to give me at least an invite to buy a phone...
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I do agree that going with a high end SD SoC means entering a different segment of market, but the current situation has changed, at least with 2015. SD810 is no longer the to-go SoC for a flagship.
qualcomm screwing up this year really means something for everyone else in the market. think about it, now that Sammy has debuted its in-house Exynos that successfully, how likely will they use a SD next gen? assume they don't screw up their design, not likely isn't it? look at HTC, they are slowly moving towards mediatek for flagships also.
It used to be that to be flagship you gotta have a qualcomm chip, but now that trend is slowly disappearing. qualcomm no longer has the reputation it used to have.
Chinaphonearena said:
This makes sense if smartphone tech wasn't rapidly improving and getting cheaper by the minute. By the time Zenfone 3 comes around, a more powerful SoC will be available at a cheaper price point.
On a side note, I've found the MT6752 based phones to be significantly snappier all-around than Z3560.
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But then again isnt Z3560 pushing around 80% of the processing power of the Z3580 right now, and all respect to MTK aside I think they have ventured on the "More Cores = More Power" route results of which are still awaited! I think Intel has gained a huge boost to their brand name in mobile tech and should carry their future chips (subsidized) with Asus to carry this wave over!
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True story. If i wouldn't say that price / value are well balencend on this device, i wouldn't have switched from my Note 4 (and earning money for using a phone for 3 months )
I think they will be capable to deliver a "new" ZenFone 2, whitch is able to outperform this generation in a year. At the same price range. We will have the a new generation of SOCs, camera sensors... and so on. And there will still be a "midrange" or the "old" high end. The only question is: Is ASUS willing to to do so?
ASUS is faceing a really hard competion in midrange market. Aspecially in asia. You have all the Jiyavu's, Siswoo's, elephone's, Xiaomi's, etc. And they all have quiet good price / value ratio. And nearly the same hardware.
For example: I could choose between a Jiyavu S3 Advance for nealy 300€ or the ASUS for 320€ (normal price with shipment around 390€). Differences 3GB RAM vs. 4GB RAM, CPU and Graphics power will be nearly the same in reallife, camera sensor Sony vs. Toshiba, both Dual-Sim, screensize / resolution and Mirco SD extension.
I choose ASUS because i got more RAM and a slightly better CPU for 20€... Would it be the normal price i maybe had choose the Jiyavu... (At the moment I ' m happy for going with ASUS ).
Back to Topic. If ASUS wants to deliver more midrange phones, i think they will stick with Intel. Price / Value seems to be at a sweetspot. Only MediaTech is able to deliver kind of compareable hardware for midrange phones (there seems to be a reason why the MT 6752 is in nearly every new "Chinaphone").
If ASUS wants to build a highend device, well, SD will be an option also MediaTech. I'm not quiet sure what Intel got in there portfolio.
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Aha! but here is where Asus is ahead of the curve .... "Brand Recognition".... I agree 100% to the competition it might face in the Asian market but it would have a very much paved path in Europe and America as it already is an established brand in these markets due to its PC/Laptop ventures and thus a partnership with Intel (also a De facto processor for laptops) is something which already sells (Republic of Gaming anyone??) and would be easily presented in Zenfone.
Intel needs a way in the mobile market, and I think that if Zenfone sells anywhere near the target of 25Mil sets, the next phone might see even more subsidized support from Intel ... meaning better quality on a cheaper price and the winner is the buyer ... (If google doesn't flushes android compleatly down the drain like the latest updated which left some nexus 7 tabs bricked )!!!
Only problem with Intel is the locked bootloader and being stuck on 32-bit Android
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Only problem with Intel is the locked bootloader and being stuck on 32-bit Android
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bootloader unlock will come.. its just a matter of when...
and yeah the 32bit android is a letdown
what abt openness of the source code?
I don't really know how open source intel are abt there product
but we need open source codes so that developers can support zenfones
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bootloader unlock will come.. its just a matter of when...
and yeah the 32bit android is a letdown
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Why is 32 bit a letdown? Does this mean that being 32 forces you to underutilize RAM as in PCs?
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Why is 32 bit a letdown? Does this mean that being 32 forces you to underutilize RAM as in PCs?
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ram utilization isn't an issue cuz we only have 4GBs..
its the fact that certain instructions benefit from the 64bit mode.. and thats not counting the extra registers available too..
more to the point.. the device could perform even better
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what abt openness of the source code?
I don't really know how open source intel are abt there product
but we need open source codes so that developers can support zenfones
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asus has already released the source codes on their website.. and i believe at least 1 person here has managed to compile the kernel..
the only missing piece is the bootloader unlock to flash it
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But then again isnt Z3560 pushing around 80% of the processing power of the Z3580 right now, and all respect to MTK aside I think they have ventured on the "More Cores = More Power" route results of which are still awaited! I think Intel has gained a huge boost to their brand name in mobile tech and should carry their future chips (subsidized) with Asus to carry this wave over!
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When I take a look like a "normal" consumer, i wouldn't be intrested in how they achieve more power. If they develop a CPU with 100 cores, that wouldn't bother me as long as the power and battery consumption getting better.
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Aha! but here is where Asus is ahead of the curve .... "Brand Recognition".... I agree 100% to the competition it might face in the Asian market but it would have a very much paved path in Europe and America as it already is an established brand in these markets due to its PC/Laptop ventures and thus a partnership with Intel (also a De facto processor for laptops) is something which already sells (Republic of Gaming anyone??) and would be easily presented in Zenfone. ...
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Yes, the Brand name is quiet common in Europe and USA but as you statet for PCs, Laptops... They could make a use of this
but for example in Germany, we don't really have a big market for mid-range devices. The users here, change there phone when their contract is finished. So they get there hands on the high end devices for 150 € and cheaper (I know, prices for contracts are higher... but not many people are looking it that way).
So even if they have a name, without the right Phone they aren't able to sell many...
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I do agree that going with a high end SD SoC means entering a different segment of market, but the current situation has changed, at least with 2015. SD810 is no longer the to-go SoC for a flagship.
qualcomm screwing up this year really means something for everyone else in the market. think about it, now that Sammy has debuted its in-house Exynos that successfully, how likely will they use a SD next gen? assume they don't screw up their design, not likely isn't it? look at HTC, they are slowly moving towards mediatek for flagships also.
It used to be that to be flagship you gotta have a qualcomm chip, but now that trend is slowly disappearing. qualcomm no longer has the reputation it used to have.
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So whitch SOC would you choose? Nearly all big manufacturers showed theire Flagships for 2015. We have LG with SD808, HTC with SD810, Xiaomi with SD810, and expecting Sony with SD810, too
There are just a few SOCs at the moment playing in that Class... SD 808, SD810, MT6795 (still waiting for a real life test), Exynos 7420 (own League), Tegra K1 (just for Tablets).
And now it seems that Qualcomm fixed some things with SD810v2 it still is a player in that league. It would have been a big problem for Qualcomm if Mediatek had the MT6795 at the markets a few months ago. But that chance is over.
I hope HTC will go ahead on the MediaTek-Road.
I share your opininion regarding Samsung. Will be interesting if they are willing to share there newest SOCs with other companys. I would just give them my "last year version" and use the "new" just for my products or make it quiet expensive.
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So whitch SOC would you choose? Nearly all big manufacturers showed theire Flagships for 2015. We have LG with SD808, HTC with SD810, Xiaomi with SD810, and expecting Sony with SD810, too
There are just a few SOCs at the moment playing in that Class... SD 808, SD810, MT6795 (still waiting for a real life test), Exynos 7420 (own League), Tegra K1 (just for Tablets).
And now it seems that Qualcomm fixed some things with SD810v2 it still is a player in that league. It would have been a big problem for Qualcomm if Mediatek had the MT6795 at the markets a few months ago. But that chance is over.
I hope HTC will go ahead on the MediaTek-Road.
I share your opininion regarding Samsung. Will be interesting if they are willing to share there newest SOCs with other companys. I would just give them my "last year version" and use the "new" just for my products or make it quiet expensive.
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You seem to be missing an idea. yes, nearly all big OEMs went with qualcomm this year, but do they have a choice? keep in mind that OEMs design their flagship at least 1 year prior to their launch date, so whatever SoC they use, it's chosen long before it's out. Will OEMs be fully aware what potential problems the SoC will have?
don't take sammy's words for real, they were thinking of using Exynos regardless. they just waited for a chance when the SD810's heating issues got widely spread.
this year is already set in stone no matter what happens next, but what will OEMs consider now for 2016? sure qualcomm's next gen SoC seems promising on paper, but hey was there a time that the 810 didn't look promising to you on paper? that is something OEMs consider more carefully than before, since the days of just blindly taking qualcomm for granted is over with the 810. now that doesn't mean there won't be OEMs that will choose qualcomm no matter what anymore, it just means that qualcomm no longer is the only choice when it comes to flagships, and by then how do you know if others still don't have high end SoCs? intel has 14nm finfet with no 20nm interconnects unlike sammy ready to go, with this much power efficiency they can easily crank up their CPUs. mediatek has the helios 10 core thing coming out.
btw, the mi note pro also has overheating issues, the whole rev 2.1 thing is just marketing bs.
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You seem to be missing an idea. yes, nearly all big OEMs went with qualcomm this year, but do they have a choice? keep in mind that OEMs design their flagship at least 1 year prior to their launch date, so whatever SoC they use, it's chosen long before it's out. Will OEMs be fully aware what potential problems the SoC will have?
don't take sammy's words for real, they were thinking of using Exynos regardless. they just waited for a chance when the SD810's heating issues got widely spread.
this year is already set in stone no matter what happens next, but what will OEMs consider now for 2016? sure qualcomm's next gen SoC seems promising on paper, but hey was there a time that the 810 didn't look promising to you on paper? that is something OEMs consider more carefully than before, since the days of just blindly taking qualcomm for granted is over with the 810. now that doesn't mean there won't be OEMs that will choose qualcomm no matter what anymore, it just means that qualcomm no longer is the only choice when it comes to flagships, and by then how do you know if others still don't have high end SoCs? intel has 14nm finfet with no 20nm interconnects unlike sammy ready to go, with this much power efficiency they can easily crank up their CPUs. mediatek has the helios 10 core thing coming out.
btw, the mi note pro also has overheating issues, the whole rev 2.1 thing is just marketing bs.
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According to your statement LG planned one year ahead to use a SD808 and not the SD810 ? Seems a little bit strange in my opinion.
Did they have a choice. I think they had. Trust in MediaTek for example. Talk to Nividia. Talk to Intel.
Will OEM be fully aware of Problems?
No, but who do you trust. A Partner that delivered Cutting-Edge-SoC's for years (and maybe to give you better order conditions to keep you as a partner) or a company that had there first really fully comparebale generation this year (trying everything to get a grip at premium brands)?
It's going to be really interesting what 2016 will bring.
I really would like to see highend devices with SoC from Intel, MediaTek, Samsung AND Qualcomm.
Regarding Mi Note Pro: could you provide any further sources? Read about this but also got first Infos from (how i think trustworthy) resellers that they aren't facing problems during stress tests....
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http://tinyurl.com/3m8t8xx looks like it might be it but even better with the 4.5 inch screen instead of 4.3.
From this article here http://tinyurl.com/3cvcy47 it says that Sprint, AT&T and Verizon Galaxy S2 will be getting this accessory and maybe T-Mobile wasnt added to this list because the T-Mobile version will maybe be getting a Galaxy S2 with a modified form factor then the rest of the carriers, what do you guys think? It has a new Quallcomm dual 1.2 chip in there instead of the Exnos or Tegra im not sure if that will be a good move or a bad move because Samsungs chip was proven faster then Quallcomms dual processor in the HTC Sensation but maybe this updated chip will have better results..
Was just reading up on this as well
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...idandme+(Android+and+Me)&utm_content=FaceBook
Android 2.3 Gingerbread
1.2 Ghz Dual-core Qualcomm APQ8060 Processor
4.5-inch Super AMOLED Plus display with a resolution of 480 x 800
1GB of RAM and 16GB of ROM
8MP back-facing camera with flash
Front-facing camera
1080p video recording
HDMI-out with the microUSB port
4G support for both T-Mobile and AT&T
NFC support
Not SUPER impressed, but looks pretty nice.
Im very interested in how this new Qualcomm chip will do againts the Qualcomm chip in the Sensation.
It's rumoured to come out in Q4....when Tegra3 devices will begin popping up, doesn't seem as awe inspiring as before :/
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Im very interested in how this new Qualcomm chip will do againts the Qualcomm chip in the Sensation.
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Here's a product brief of the Qualcomm MSM8x60 (MSM8260 for Sensation) and APQ8060 (for Hercules).
http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief
Here's some info on the modem Qualcomm MDM8220.
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2009/11/12/qualcomm-looking-ahead/#more-613
"Qualcomm’s MDM8220 dual-carrier HSPA+ solution, based on the 3GPP Release 8 standard, provides peak downlink data rates of up to 42 megabits per second (Mbps) and 11 Mbps on the uplink, allowing carriers to easily upgrade their existing infrastructure equipment to achieve significantly higher bandwidths. Its dual-carrier technology doubles networks’ bandwidth from 5 MHz to 10 MHz by aggregating two HSPA carriers in parallel."
The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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theres no way that could be true. I mean whats the highest price phones go for? 199 usually and 250 with a $50 mail in rebate? still puts it at 199 after MIR. I doubt they would want to be the first to break that by a good $100.
i mean cmon, Apple hasnt even done it for the iphones yet! hahaha
i was desperately trying to buy the SGS2 last week, and iu was about to hit the buy button. i wanted that full RGB pixel display instead of hte pentile.
but i went to ATT and played with the Infuse, and i actually was not that impressed as i thought i would be. the pixels actually looked a little better on my nexus one cause of the smaller size even though the pentile stinks.
so now i'm not so sure about all these 4.5 inch AMOLED plus screens coming out. a little too big i think.
That 4.5" is big that I also tried the Infuse...I'll be checking out the Sensation's 4.3" for size/feel once released.
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The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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That's good news. I guess the remaining issue is how long it will take for the Hercules to arrive and would it be smarter just to wait for the SGS3.
I'm either getting the nokia n9, Nexus 3 or this phone.
TMOnews says it's available for preorder....
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/mobile-city-online-posts-samsung-hercules-for-preorder-with-great-photoshop-job/
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=28052
i dont see how it can have the apq8060 or w/e apq it is. because that's a processor without a modem for any data, so the specs have to be wrong. ive done some research and it's been a pain in the you know what. if it's the msm8x60 im not getting. i want this because of the high speed hspa+ 42mbps. thats insane. i saw a video of the rocket 3.0 pulling in 25mbps down and 5 up. would be cool if it were 4.3" with the exynos processor though. i played with the infuse seems too big. but the "hercules" is just a tad bit shorter not much though.
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i dont see how it can have the apq8060 or w/e apq it is. because that's a processor without a modem for any data, so the specs have to be wrong. ive done some research and it's been a pain in the you know what. if it's the msm8x60 im not getting. i want this because of the high speed hspa+ 42mbps. thats insane. i saw a video of the rocket 3.0 pulling in 25mbps down and 5 up. would be cool if it were 4.3" with the exynos processor though. i played with the infuse seems too big. but the "hercules" is just a tad bit shorter not much though.
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It's all rumor though right now. It could potentially end up with a exynos cpu if enough of them are made available. If they tried to launch a "Hercules" today they probably wouldn't have exynos stock due to the popularity of the GSII.
it's no longer a rumour, it's reality now
it's was officially unveiled at the show http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249995
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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Nah, not $800, but $500-$599. I consider that price way to close to tablet territory. No offense though.
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wow, i like this slogan
i will pass this one up and wait for nexus prime...a better phone imho
It will not have the Exynos chip like the other because the Exynos does not suppurt speeds padt 21 mbps, but lets see what other chip they willhave that can hopefully match the Exynos chisp performance...
yup this indeed has been confirmed by the Tweet from Samsung
http://m.pocketnow.com/2015/07/24/budget-smartphone-demand
Nice to see that demand for the Zenfone has been high in Japan. I actually got mine imported from Expansys because I wanted the cheaper 550 model, which wasn't released here, and because the 551 sold officially here is significantly marked up in price (though still about the cheapest thing you can find in Japan with decent specs). But it seems ASUS have been shifting a lot of the official JP model 551 nevertheless. Japan has up until recently been terrible for freedom of competition and choice in mobile, with the three big established carriers holding a cast iron grip of the market in a cartel-like manner. A combination of the rise of dirt-cheap MNVO carriers and government intervention (forced unlocking especially) to curb the anti-competitive practices of the big 3 has started to change this. ASUS are obviously one of the main beneficiaries of this - breaking into the market with the Zenfone 5 and seemingly expanding their presence with the Zenfone 2.
Asus is a Taiwanese Tech company since 1989 and one of the 1st to release computer components to consumers. I am sure that they are able to bring down cellphones price/performance ratio considerably. Found this on wikipedia:
'ASUS is the world's -largest PC vendor by 2014 unit sales . ASUS appears in BusinessWeek’s "InfoTech 100" and "Asia’s Top 10 IT Companies"
They are partners with Intel (Created in 1968 ; released world's 1st CPU in 1971) since their release so they pretty much know what to build and how to code for their products.
I still remember building my 1st desktop with an Asus motherboard 16 years ago LoL Hands-down, I only use Asus motherboards as they are know to rarely fail and even then, their support is top notch. They always use their products in Overclocking Tournaments for a reason.
aziz07 said:
Asus is a Taiwanese Tech company since 1989 and one of the 1st to release computer components to consumers. I am sure that they are able to bring down cellphones price/performance ratio considerably. Found this on wikipedia:
'ASUS is the world's -largest PC vendor by 2014 unit sales . ASUS appears in BusinessWeek’s "InfoTech 100" and "Asia’s Top 10 IT Companies"
They are partners with Intel since their release so they pretty much know what to build and how to code for their products.
I still remember building my 1st desktop with an Asus motherboard 16 years ago LoL Hands-down, I only use Asus motherboards as they are know to rarely fail and even then, their support is top notch. They always use their products in Overclocking Tournaments for a reason.
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Agreed. Running an asus motherboard and asus monitor on my current build. I have never had an "indian call center" support experience with them. Always competent english speaking operators. Very nice people and very knowledged.
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http://m.pocketnow.com/2015/07/24/budget-smartphone-demand
Nice to see that demand for the Zenfone has been high in Japan. I actually got mine imported from Expansys because I wanted the cheaper 550 model, which wasn't released here, and because the 551 sold officially here is significantly marked up in price (though still about the cheapest thing you can find in Japan with decent specs). But it seems ASUS have been shifting a lot of the official JP model 551 nevertheless. Japan has up until recently been terrible for freedom of competition and choice in mobile, with the three big established carriers holding a cast iron grip of the market in a cartel-like manner. A combination of the rise of dirt-cheap MNVO carriers and government intervention (forced unlocking especially) to curb the anti-competitive practices of the big 3 has started to change this. ASUS are obviously one of the main beneficiaries of this - breaking into the market with the Zenfone 5 and seemingly expanding their presence with the Zenfone 2.
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Recently, I realize that config_init.sh has the description "ZE550ML_JP" in firmware 2.19.40.22 and 2.19.40.23. There was no this description in 2.19.40.12.
I don't know this means ASUS is trying to sell ZE550ML here in Japan or not.
If so, ZE550ML will accelerate to change the market share of carriers in Japan.
just seen something similar to yota phone the oukitel u6 dual screen - dont think its as good but its cheaper
take a look
Oukitel U6 dual-screen smartphone up for pre-order for $270
kam1962 said:
just seen something similar to yota phone the oukitel u6 dual screen - dont think its as good but its cheaper
take a look
Oukitel U6 dual-screen smartphone up for pre-order for $270
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Ah, China is at it again.
Quality-wise their EPD looks similar, but the software side seems to be severely lacking when compared to Yotaphone 2. Not to say that Yotaphone 2's current software was something out of this world. Anyways, competition is always welcome.
The price is also much more in line with what they are offering.
OUKITEL U6 - worth it
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Ah, China is at it again.
Quality-wise their EPD looks similar, but the software side seems to be severely lacking when compared to Yotaphone 2. Not to say that Yotaphone 2's current software was something out of this world. Anyways, competition is always welcome.
The price is also much more in line with what they are offering.
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It is said that OUKITEL U6 pre-sell online, and it starts shipping from September 15, 2015.
but the shipping date of Yota has not announced to the public. Because all I've seen so far is CGI renders, concepts, and pre-orders with no definite release date. I even don't know if it exists.
Any updates?
Last year I've researched the dual screen phones before I purchased YP2, as of January there were 4 manufacturers in China in various stages with one manufacturer saying they release the phone in January but didn't. There is another startup in U.S. with plans to release similar phone as YP, but as of January not available yet.
I decided to go with SISWOO R9 DARKROOM simply because it had the best specs, a relatively active user forum (the company SISWOO was even actively looking for ideas) and they already build a good reputation for high quality phones in Europe. SISWOO is higher quality than say XIAOMI and price is a bit higher. They have distributor network in Europe compared to XIAOMI which only sells online.
So I put down money in Aliexpress waiting waiting for the R9 ..and nothing. Wasn't ready to ship by the date it was originally announced (Jan 18). I cancelled order, got money back eventually.
I decided to purchase YP not only because it was the only dual- screen phone commercially available to me but also had best software for dual screen.
However, as OP saying hardware-wise they are similar to YP - with exception to screen (better scree), internal memory and processor - plus DUAL SIM card (every Chinese phone) and SD card. The Chinese phones have no software, so it's just mirroring you can do and running aps - but no native apps for ink screen. The design of YP is so much better and it's a quite a looker, the only other area would be shape - it's easy to slip. The Chinese phones appear to be safer to hold.
Price - YP costs about double but you get pretty good hardware for it.
If somebody looking for value phone with dual screen ink, it's best advice to wait for a few months, there will be more choice.
Honestly, Oukitel and Siswoo are just copying Yotaphone... Specs may be higher, but implementation and software are poor and I don't trust much in updates in next 2 years... even one year... IMHO
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Honestly, Oukitel and Siswoo are just copying Yotaphone... Specs may be higher, but implementation and software are poor and I don't trust much in updates in next 2 years... even one year... IMHO
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Though haven't Yota basically given up support for the YP2 already? I mean they stated no more version updates, just some EPD apps is to come. It's a great phone, but in light of the stagefright metaphor it feels a bit irresponsible of them not to patch it asap seeing as if I recall correct they made the first YP after the news about NSA snooping on everyone. It at least gave me the idea that security as main focus with their phones.
Now I can't think of any brand that has patched the metaphor exploit yet except for the Nexus line of phones so they are not alone in sharing the irresponsibility, just not as security concerned as would be expected.
I am wondering if it's a question of market viability or copyrights for the dual screen feature. I am surprised there is no major phone manufacturer that would come with dual screens. It's the only way to go to differentiate phones since the screen is the biggest energy consumer and there are plenty of people who use ebook readers. Not sure why is YP and only handful of Chinese manufacturers jumping on the bandwagon and nobody else.
Some rumours from here,
http://www.smartphoneandprice.com/b...-android-smartphone-full-specs-and-price.html
Can't comment on the accuracy though.
5.4" QHD Display, 2560x1440
18MP Rear facing camera
Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB internal storage, expandable via microSD
3560mAh battery
£250/$350/€320
If true, at that price I'm hugely tempted to move from my Xperia Z2.
While the specs are pretty decent, one of the other rumors Ive heard is that its coming with Lollipop. If I have a phone coming out in the next month or two, I want it to have Marshmallow or an absolute guaranteed timeframe of being upgraded. Granted, I am big on running ROM's but will the bootloader be unlocked to do so? And if so, how many developers will really jump on this phone to work on it?
From what I hear it ships with 5.1.1.
Marshmallow isn't even out yet is it? And is likely to be buggy are launch anyway. I doubt it'll be stable until towards the end of Q1 2016 so I don't think I'd want it shipping on a phone out this year.
That price looks way too low, and the battery rumors have been all over the place. Remember, that curved screens isn't cheap.
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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Yep, I agree. £400-£450 band is really buyable.
We don't know how BB places this phone on the market. Premium Business Device or Hi-End Consumer Phone ? Neither both, It won't be cheeper than S6 or Note 5 because build quality looks good and and additional hardware always cost more.
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There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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At that kind of price Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market really. If they want to shift units they're going to have to keep the price low when going up against other Android handsets.
I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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That's a good question. I've heard absolutely nothing about how it charges. We don't even know if it has fast charging either. Hopefully it has both.
Does it has type c USB?
Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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All the leaks have shown a normal angular looking micro USB port.
Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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One plus two.
Plus a number of less known phone companies (Xiaomi, LeTV, etc)
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I had a series of BB for 10 years. I miss the keyboard. I will have to try one of these and if they are close to the discussed price range will buy one. It looks like a large phone, however.
Sooo new spec sheets list the front cam as only 2 MP?? Is this an error or was the 5 MP rumor too good to be true? Not a deal breaker, but man, will THAT be disappointing. Awesome 18 MP Schneider Kreuznach lens on the back and... a camera from like 2005 on the front.
It's officially time, guys! Pre orders are LIVE!
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html
$699 for the U.S. version. The front cam is 2 MP, but has a f/2.9" aperture with 1.75 micron pixels. I'm no camera buff, but that sounds good? Also, NFC confirmed, Fast charging confirmed, wireless charging confirmed... No compromises aside from the battery being non removable. Releases November 6. Still no word on whether the carriers will sell them directly.
I have no idea why they would remove wireless charging on all the models except for the US, as the specs stand. They did spend the money to test them in the lab, then last minute pull it all out?
kakat08 said:
That phone is elegant but I'm worried about the Slide keyboard thing, if it uses flex cable it will wear anytime. One thing, it doesn't have gyro sensor.
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The mechanism is solid apparently.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.