I don't understand why LG decided to not include the Gorilla Glass 4 with the new G4.
All the gorilla glass is the same. I've yet to see a real difference in day to day use with any version.
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I don't understand why LG decided to not include the Gorilla Glass 4 with the new G4.
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To be honest with you it wouldn't have made a difference. Yes it's true that at the same thickness GG4 is stronger than GG3. What every one misses the point of GG4: Its sole purpose is to have thinner glass at comparable strength to GG3. The reason why Samsung chose GG4 was because they were putting the glass on both sides of the phone and needed the weight reduction.
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Drop tests are SO dumb. What do they prove? They ONLY show what happened for THAT person in THAT environment. They can't reasonably be extrapolated by anyone to any situation beyond that one.
What do you do with dumb info like this when your phone breaks and it does not break like this one? Are you shocked? Do you try to argue with the seller that "so this drop test video I saw showed that.. but mine did....".
Do these actually make people feel better in some way - or worse - and stop or start them from actually buying a phone?
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Drop tests are SO dumb. What do they prove? They ONLY show what happened for THAT person in THAT environment. They can't reasonably be extrapolated by anyone to any situation beyond that one.
What do you do with dumb info like this when your phone breaks and it does not break like this one? Are you shocked? Do you try to argue with the seller that "so this drop test video I saw showed that.. but mine did....".
Do these actually make people feel better in some way - or worse - and stop or start them from actually buying a phone?
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I disagree, a drop test is a very informative way how normal people drop their phones by simulating it. A generic drop test demonstrates how a phone does in that particular environment given those variables and how it fair. It is reasonable to extrapolate that if I were to drop it in that manner it's screen too will likely break. Had I not seen that video, i would think during this day and age, a phone would survive a face drop.
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I disagree, a drop test is a very informative way how normal people drop their phones by simulating it. A generic drop test demonstrates how a phone does in that particular environment given those variables and how it fair. It is reasonable to extrapolate that if I were to drop it in that manner it's screen too will likely break. Had I not seen that video, i would think during this day and age, a phone would survive a face drop.
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Yeah? And what do you do with this info? How does it help? What are the chances that YOU drop YOUR phone THIS way? And ok, so you drop your phone... then what does this "drop test" help? You cannot, in any way (1) predict how YOUR phone will do in the situation where you drop your phone nor can you (2) in any way use a drop test video to make a case to any maker to get any relief. Do you tell yourself, "hey man, the drop test showed it should survive this 'type' of drop so WTF".
So again.. what does it do? What does it prove? Do you really go around saying, "OMG, did you see how well xxx phone faired in 'the drop test'". A drop test I will remind you, that has no controls and is not repeatable and is just some random people in a random environment.
"if I were to drop it in that manner it's screen too will likely break." - seriously? Ok, when you drop something, what manner is it? What if it is in that manner? What if it is not in the manner? Can you control the manner in which it drops? 1 degree of variability in any way and it is no longer "that manner" to which you saw the drop test video.
"Had I not seen that video, i would think during this day and age, a phone would survive a face drop" really? Ok.. some do. Some don't. I have face dropped phones, NO issues. I have faced dropped phone, screen crack. Ok? What? So now what? A drop test video did what exactly and proved what exactly?
Why not a fire test? Or a "your phone was in a car accident" test. Or a high speed "throw the phone against the wall test" for the angry passionate people.
I stand firm on this.. these are worthless. Just like a stupid blender test. Drop your phone? As it falls through the air you should expect it to break. if it does not it is NOT because of a dumb drop test video confirmed it would or wouldn't, it is because.... in that moment... you got lucky
FWIW, I read somewhere that the G4 WILL come with Gorilla Glass 4.
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FWIW, I read somewhere that the G4 WILL come with Gorilla Glass 4.
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It doesn't though. We already know it has gorilla glass 3.
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I don't understand how these drop testers can destroy expensive smartphones on purpose without dying a little bit inside. Even if it was given to me for free by LG or Samsung for the sole purpose of a drop test I still couldn't do it. It's such a waste of a perfectly good phone....
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It doesn't though. We already know it has gorilla glass 3.
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Not according to this site:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/04/lg-g4-specifications.html
I do not think drop test is going to help to prove anything, if they are really confident, then they should give free exchange if screen cracks.
If the reports (here on xda and on other sites) are to be believed LG should be happy they didn't go for GG4 as the reports are saying that it scratches very easily. GG3 is tried and tested and easily good enough for anything that is thrown at it. Just because things are the latest doesn't mean they are the best.
^ I think you got it wrong to some S6 users the glass have fine scratches from the factory. I didn't see complaining about GG4 get easily scratched.
Corning gorilla glass is for scratches... Never about cracks or breaking. All glass screen phones fail a drop test. You would think a company would produce an unbreakable screen... You may not upgrade as fast though?
Don't drop it
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Corning gorilla glass is for scratches... Never about cracks or breaking. All glass screen phones fail a drop test. You would think a company would produce an unbreakable screen... You may not upgrade as fast though
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After feeling the pressure from "Glass Sphere " they did improve the glass durability against drops (cracks/breakage). According to some articles the GG4 is a big improvement over the GG3.
How about you people stop dropping your phones? :good:
Never!
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im gonna put a case when i get my G4. not sure weather to get the plastic one because if im going to have it in a case 24/7 i dont think the leather will even show.
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Wow, it held up much better than I expected - is GG2 to thank for it?
On a side note, wonder how a face first drop test would go; I'm thinking the screen would shatter from 4 feet or above.
I think because it is bigger, it has more resistance as galaxy s3 (it also has GG2)
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I think because it is bigger, it has more resistance as galaxy s3 (it also has GG2)
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Basic rules of physics though would justify the assumption that it would undergo more force (F=ma) on contact. Maybe they changed something on the construction because it seems it doesn't twist as easily as the GS3 either.
Oh thats nice.
thats freakin wonderful its take it way better than s3 O_O
s3 from first drop get ****ed up
Deffo seems tougher! :good:
There's also a scratch test which looks good too. A guy Key's the screen well to reveal no scratches. They learnt from the flimsy s3.
They need to learn from this flimsy launch now
3 hard drops, and the GNote2 took them all. Painful to watch the video, but good to know it can take a such drops well :good:
I find GizmoSlip's videos much better. I mean this one seems more natural, but you never know how the phone will fall. I doubt it survives a fall from chest height on the screen for example. It will surely not crack if it falls on it's back either..
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I find GizmoSlip's videos much better. I mean this one seems more natural, but you never know how the phone will fall. I doubt it survives a fall from chest height on the screen for example. It will surely not crack if it falls on it's back either..
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This is why all of these drop test videos are stupid. They're unscientific and anyone who's taken even grade school science should know better than to pay them any attention. Without stabilizing the height or the angle of impact this "test" is silly. A REAL drop test would be securing the phone and hitting it with a piston at different angles, or better yet squeezing it with a known force until significant damage is done then approximating the height of said squeeze. Multiple drops within the same test are also questionable seeing as the phone could be getting weakened after each drop therefore making it easier for the following drops to do damage.
Dont be dropping your new M9 people
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Oh man, I'd be gutted if that happened.
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Oh man, I'd be gutted if that happened.
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I used to think the same but ever since i got my brand new Alienware Laptop, Beats, Ipad and Digital Camera stolen and insurance didnt pay out jack, any gadget damage seems to pale in comparison. For some reason I always think back to that now - Adam
Id still be pretty gutted though haha.
FAIL.
I've dropped the M8 so many times... But this
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Really guys? This is just based on chance, not an indication of how well your phone handles drops. You could just as well drop it ten times and not hit the display.
If you drop any phone, with no case, like that from that height it's not going to survive intact.
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If you drop any phone, with no case, like that from that height it's not going to survive intact.
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Yep definately, no phone would have survived that! Hell a lot of phones wouldn't have survived the side drop either.
The HTC one is one of the most durable highend phones out there - Adam
Just place a Spigen or other brand Glass screenprotector. If your phone falls, the glass screen protector will be broken, when you remove that, your phone display is 100% OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8ISx4IL8Q
Thats idd great news
What is it? I can't watch the video.
I think someone should try this and confirm that it is true.
very cool find. thanks
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What is it? I can't watch the video.
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A 2hr water test where the G4 survived.
It says the phone is splash proof on the O2 page:
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/lg/g4/
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It says the phone is splash proof on the O2 page:
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/lg/g4/
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Well it has no IP rating - so that protects them as then, they cannot be on the hook for water damage. And, normally, these vids are kind of counting on the fact that surface tension will simply keep water from going into tiny holes. But in this case, since it is not a sealed back phone water DID get into the actual inside the phone, around the battery and SD card area, and presumably into the motherboard and such. So, it is cool for him it survived, but I consider that luck, not anything you should expect and count on. This is not like the Z3 Sony where you can go swimming with it so not so sure what the point of the video is? Can you get it wet, ok sure to some degree. Should you, no. But for that matter can you drop it and expect it to not break, sure to some degree depending on a slew of factors. Should you drop it, no.
I don't consider this "good news" and as a matter of fact, it is not really news as it has no application to what YOU do and how you might get yours wet. Just like stupid drop test videos that prove NOTHING other than what happened at that moment for that person in that setting with that phone. It means nothing for you and you won't be able to go to the maker and say, "but hey, this video on YouTube showed it would survive water and it didn't". As they will tell you to pound sand - as they should.
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Well it has no IP rating - so that protects them as then, they cannot be on the hook for water damage. And, normally, these vids are kind of counting on the fact that surface tension will simply keep water from going into tiny holes. But in this case, since it is not a sealed back phone water DID get into the actual inside the phone, around the battery and SD card area, and presumably into the motherboard and such. So, it is cool for him it survived, but I consider that luck, not anything you should expect and count on. This is not like the Z3 Sony where you can go swimming with it so not so sure what the point of the video is? Can you get it wet, ok sure to some degree. Should you, no. But for that matter can you drop it and expect it to not break, sure to some degree depending on a slew of factors. Should you drop it, no.
I don't consider this "good news" and as a matter of fact, it is not really news as it has no application to what YOU do and how you might get yours wet. Just like stupid drop test videos that prove NOTHING other than what happened at that moment for that person in that setting with that phone. It means nothing for you and you won't be able to go to the maker and say, "but hey, this video on YouTube showed it would survive water and it didn't". As they will tell you to pound sand - as they should.
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You must be fun at parties
Lol kidding but yeah, this video was stupid.
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The guy in the video states that you could have it in your pocket & jump in a pool. I don't think he realizes that the deeper you go, the higher the water pressure. Still, it looks like it'll survive dropping it in the toilet or spilling on it, which is an acceptable level of resistance to me.
So this is my second Nexus 6P with this supposed issue. It seems like there is a lift or space between the screen and aluminum bezel. I just wanted to know if anyone else's phone is like this. This is my 2nd RMA, and everything else about the device is perfect other than this. Just wondering if its normal or I should definitely RMA again.
I attached a image link below
http://imgur.com/a/VA1qY
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Hmm. Now I see the same thing on my 6p. Sorry I don't have another device to take a picture.
Although I can never unsee this, I don't mind.
I have the same thing not to that extent on the power button side. Call it defect if you may but the device is working fine for me since day 1 release of the phone. If you're an ocd freak like 99.9% of the people here, then rma the device.
Every phone will have one issue or another, this is probably the least annoying and noticeable one.. I know it sucks that for this price we still get crappy quality overall, but I guess we just need to live with it.
I wouldn't RMA it honestly
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Every phone will have one issue or another, this is probably the least annoying and noticeable one.. I know it sucks that for this price we still get crappy quality overall, but I guess we just need to live with it.
I wouldn't RMA it honestly
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I agree. I am just worried it will get worse, plus i dont have nexus protect
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I agree. I am just worried it will get worse, plus i dont have nexus protect
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I have this issue and I am fairly rough with my phone (I work outdoors all day) and the issue has not gotten any worse with less than perfect treatment!! (It gets thrown around a lot...)
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I have this issue and I am fairly rough with my phone (I work outdoors all day) and the issue has not gotten any worse with less than perfect treatment!! (It gets thrown around a lot...)
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That gives some re-assurance, I guess if anything happens I still have that 1 year standard warranty.
Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking
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Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking
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I agree, I think google and Huawei could have done a better job at quality control. For example, I rarely see Apple devices with these inconsistencies. Not saying Apple is perfect, but they fore sure do a better job with QC.
Also, do you have this issue on both sides of the phone, on the side with the power button and without it? I just checked and its apparent a bit on the other side too. Just curious about yours.
Yep, both sides are pretty bad. I used to be so picky and ocd with devices and would send them back for the smallest of issues. I just don't have the time to be doing that now!!
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Exactly!! This phone isn't as fragile as people say. But the overall quality is a bit lacking
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but the glass is. GG4 or not. Mine shattered from a drop at car seat height (approx 2-2.5 ft) face down. had a tpu case on it but no screen cover. must have hit a tiny rock or something. couldn't really tell. disappointed in the GG4 for sure... I dropped other phones with never an issue... must be bad luck...
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but the glass is. GG4 or not. Mine shattered from a drop at car seat height (approx 2-2.5 ft) face down. had a tpu case on it but no screen cover. must have hit a tiny rock or something. couldn't really tell. disappointed in the GG4 for sure... I dropped other phones with never an issue... must be bad luck...
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Every drop is different, people have reported dropping the 6P face down on concrete and having no damage.. In my experience, the screen scratches easily and unless you have a tempered glass screen protector, it will crack if you drop it.
You wonder why google doesn't improve quality control, the money wasted returning units, sending, and paying someone to answer your call, obviously the contractor must deal with this in the long run, but you'd expect google to be consistent at providing a nexus experience for consumers and want to reduce the amount of faulty units in circulation, these fault threads don't help with sales.
Seeing people talk about being on their 3rd+ unit, im surprised people tolerated with this. I got my unit from a mobile store who actually opened the unit and did their own quality control to reduce the costs of having to supply a remedy while the phone is being fixed.
I don't know about the laws in the states but here if your unit is faulty 2-3+ times, your legally allowed a refund.
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May your phone stay in one piece, everyone.
Drop tests from the S8+ onwards will now need to be conducted onto carpet as they are so brittle/fragile haha
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https://youtu.be/AkoZM83X_i4
May your phone stay in one piece, everyone.
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Sadly I've been one of the clumsy, unlucky owners that already shattered his screen after a very short fall
Because of this I started researching, and saw that video this morning.
Warning to all S8(+) owners: the more I investigate, the more I suspect this particular phone is designed to be very, very fragile. I wouldn't even discard some design flaws (again, regardless of my clumsiness).
And I have some degree of authority to that claim, having owned every single Galaxy phone ever released, and dropping most of them