Ok I guess I'll begin by sharing the new info, which doesn't seem to be out there.
The newest Stable release of Sense 6 toolbox works with my Sense 7 (ARHD 41.0) set up. It had no glitches, and a couple selections were blocked out, so I'm guessing they were bugged ones which the dev didn't want to make available to a stable release.
What I find interesting is that it says that Sense 7 is still not supported, but to me it worked perfectly. If you guys could tell me whether it works for you too (mainly sense 7 mods), and if any of you found bugs please share what caused the bug so that other users can avoid the same bug.
Now for my set up:
Recovery: TWRP
ROM: ARHD 41.0
Sense version: Sense 7
Xposed Framework (yes/no): yes
If yes, Modules:
> ActivityForceNewTask
> APM+
> ChromePie
> Fix Lollipop Memory Leak (not sure if it actually works)
> Greenify
> Secure Settings (used with Tasker)
> Sense 6 Toolbox
Additional theming/modding apps worth mentioning:
Root Booster
(it offers an option of speed, stability or battery saving, it works by changing the CPU governor and memory heap size to achieve desired result)
Recently
(developed by Chainfire, if you don't know, he's the guy behind SuperSu, say no more. Worth checking out, since it improves the new recent apps section introduced with Lollipop)
Viper4Android FX
(if you like good sound, this is the app you need. Boomsound is already good as it is, this makes it even better)
OK guys, it's now your turn share your set up, and give your recommendations
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Ok so what got me was seeing your setup, made me want to lookup Root Booster, and at it high rating on play, going to try it. So, here is my thanks.
Renovate Milestone 5.0
Rom Version 3.28.401.7
Android 4.4.4
HTC Sense 6.0
TWRP 2.8.6 I think, didn't reboot
S-Off, yup I paid for the sunshine thing and it worked just fine.
Xposed Framework 58/54
If yes, Modules: (and why I use them)
All Notification Expanded (For making notifications actionable)
Always Expandable Notifications (For making notifications actionable)
App Settings (custom App DPI)
Clean Lockscreen (removes the 123 from lockscreen keypad and other lockscreen cleanups)
Google Play Music Listen Later (sets default tabs for google play)
Greenify (hibernates running apps)
MinMin Guard (cuts down on ads, I don't think it works sometimes)
NoSafeVolumeWarning (removes headphone volume warning when cranking it)
PlayStore Changelog (reveals full changelog instead of summary at play store)
PlayStore Fixes (sends standard DPI to google play to make some apps compatible)
PlayPermissionsXposed (makes google play show all new persmissions)
Sense 6 Toolbox (A must have for tweakers)
Sense 6 Lockscreen Mods (more lockscreen cleanup stuff)
VolumeSteps+ (change number of volume clicks from 7 to whatever, more control over volume up/down)
neXus navbarz (I needed may navbar to be just the right size for me)
xRenamer (renames most apps on home screen for a cleaner homescreen)
A few other must haves worth mentioning:
Viper4Android FX (global sound enhancer, can't have a phone without this)
Customizable HEQS from Renovate Portal (clean icons for the quick settings)
Rom Toolbox (for completely removing and freezing some unneeded apps)
Rocket Player and iSyncr (ifyou manage your music in iTunes)
And of course, the XDA forum app !!!
Forgive any typos, tried to bust this out as quick as i could
SYSTEM
Recovery: Materialised TWRP 2.8.6.0
Firmware: (Correct at all times with the base I use)
S-OFF (yes/no): yes
ADSP: 56.2.2 (True HK)
ROM: InsertCoin 7.1.4 (updating later on)
Android version: 5.0.2 (closer to Sense 7 base than 5.0.1, some minor visual differences and flashlight toggle is officially in QS regardless of the ROM.)
Sense version: Sense 7
Xposed Framework (yes/no): yes
Modules: Youtube Adaway
Physical Button Music Control (The one in IC takes too long to change the song for my taste, and it also has a bug I noticed so I use this Module as an alternative)
Also I use the standard Adaway app to get rid of ads in free apps.
AUDIO
Dragon-Fi Audio (System files only, Dolby and beats skipped)
Harman Kardon Audio (I only use Clari-Fi)
Material Viper4Android
PowerAMP Music Player (DVC and ALL EQs and enhancements turned OFF, I use V4A for EQ and Enhancements, using PowerAMP barebones like this still sounds better than HTC Player and Google Music because of its audio engine) PowerAMP Skin I Use
Earphones: Monster Turbine Pro Copper Edition (Audiophile earphones, the only earphones Monster ever made that were actually good, stupidly Monster discontinued them for an unknown reason to me, so now Monster is no longer worth a damn for me in headphones.)
Trucifix said:
Ok so what got me was seeing your setup, made me want to lookup Root Booster, and at it high rating on play, going to try it. So, here is my thanks.
Renovate Milestone 5.0
Rom Version 3.28.401.7
Android 4.4.4
HTC Sense 6.0
TWRP 2.8.6 I think, didn't reboot
S-Off, yup I paid for the sunshine thing and it worked just fine.
Xposed Framework 58/54
If yes, Modules: (and why I use them)
All Notification Expanded (For making notifications actionable)
Always Expandable Notifications (For making notifications actionable)
App Settings (custom App DPI)
Clean Lockscreen (removes the 123 from lockscreen keypad and other lockscreen cleanups)
Google Play Music Listen Later (sets default tabs for google play)
Greenify (hibernates running apps)
MinMin Guard (cuts down on ads, I don't think it works sometimes)
NoSafeVolumeWarning (removes headphone volume warning when cranking it)
PlayStore Changelog (reveals full changelog instead of summary at play store)
PlayStore Fixes (sends standard DPI to google play to make some apps compatible)
PlayPermissionsXposed (makes google play show all new persmissions)
Sense 6 Toolbox (A must have for tweakers)
Sense 6 Lockscreen Mods (more lockscreen cleanup stuff)
VolumeSteps+ (change number of volume clicks from 7 to whatever, more control over volume up/down)
neXus navbarz (I needed may navbar to be just the right size for me)
xRenamer (renames most apps on home screen for a cleaner homescreen)
A few other must haves worth mentioning:
Viper4Android FX (global sound enhancer, can't have a phone without this)
Customizable HEQS from Renovate Portal (clean icons for the quick settings)
Rom Toolbox (for completely removing and freezing some unneeded apps)
Rocket Player and iSyncr (ifyou manage your music in iTunes)
And of course, the XDA forum app !!!
Forgive any typos, tried to bust this out as quick as i could
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Just letting you know VolumeSteps+ does not work on most HTC ROMs/Devices, if you actually listen closely and pay attention you will notice that you add volume steps but listen closely and you will notice the volume won't change at all on some of those steps, the developer even said this disclaimer, and its known on HTC, the Audio System is different then AOSP or anything like that, so its pointless to have it, it adds the visual steps but in reality it doesn't work, in media for example you still have 15 steps but if you make it 30, then you still have 15 and require a bunch of pointless button presses to get to volume step 15.
Ooh thank you guys getting better replies than I expected.
@Viper4713, does Sense 7 feel stable to you? Because as far as I'm aware it's a port taken from the M9 but stuck on top of an M8 Base. Do you believe there will be any changes when HTC releases the official M8 version?
Also since you mentioned headphones, I got me a cheap £15 Panasonic HJE190.
I'm a huge audiophile, and a power listener, 70% of my day I have my headphones in my ears. In fact I got them in now haha.
The problem I have with most headphones is that most are cheaply built (even expensive ones), and don't last more than 2 months with me. So I chose to always buy cheap ones, eventually, I found a pair of HJC120 on the ground, battered up, as if someone threw them away. So I took them in, and used them since my previous pair had broken that morning lol.
The little sucked lasted me for 8 months, more than any other headphones I have ever used EVER. + the sound was good
So when they broke I was looking for the same one, and I stumbled across the HJE190. It has better sound, and if you like bass it's perfect, it's got clear highs and deep lows. Etc...
Not gonna go much into detail. What I mean is, they have the best sound of any earbuds below £50, while costing less than £20, and they are sturdy, so they last a long time. worth having a look.
@Trucifix, I'm glad I could share with you something new. Nice set up btw.
Also, after you try it and if you like it, thank the OP.
Now, about the App itself, Root Booster, since I don't play intensive games on my phone (I use my Nexus 9 for that), I don't really need the speed part, but ideally it's for gaming. For me I like the battery saving toggle, it gives me at least 1 hour worth of juice with average use.
But depeding on your need it can help.
Personally I like it, because I have no idea of which governors to use, how much to overclock or underclock, so I prefer to just let another app do it for me
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Ooh thank you guys getting better replies than I expected.
@Viper4713, does Sense 7 feel stable to you? Because as far as I'm aware it's a port taken from the M9 but stuck on top of an M8 Base. Do you believe there will be any changes when HTC releases the official M8 version?
Also since you mentioned headphones, I got me a cheap £15 Panasonic HJE190.
I'm a huge audiophile, and a power listener, 70% of my day I have my headphones in my ears. In fact I got them in now haha.
The problem I have with most headphones is that most are cheaply built (even expensive ones), and don't last more than 2 months with me. So I chose to always buy cheap ones, eventually, I found a pair of HJC120 on the ground, battered up, as if someone threw them away. So I took them in, and used them since my previous pair had broken that morning lol.
The little sucked lasted me for 8 months, more than any other headphones I have ever used EVER. + the sound was good
So when they broke I was looking for the same one, and I stumbled across the HJE190. It has better sound, and if you like bass it's perfect, it's got clear highs and deep lows. Etc...
Not gonna go much into detail. What I mean is, they have the best sound of any earbuds below £50, while costing less than £20, and they are sturdy, so they last a long time. worth having a look.
@Trucifix, I'm glad I could share with you something new. Nice set up btw.
Also, after you try it and if you like it, thank the OP.
Now, about the App itself, Root Booster, since I don't play intensive games on my phone (I use my Nexus 9 for that), I don't really need the speed part, but ideally it's for gaming. For me I like the battery saving toggle, it gives me at least 1 hour worth of juice with average use.
But depeding on your need it can help.
Personally I like it, because I have no idea of which governors to use, how much to overclock or underclock, so I prefer to just let another app do it for me
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Sense 7 ROMs for M8, yes pure stable, but I will be honest with you ARHD is the most unstable right now strangely, mike abandoned the M8 for now in favor of the M9, he may be back some time soon.
The 5.0.2 Sense 7 Ports are closer to a true Sense 7, they contain almost all the files from Sense 7 base, only thing Sense 6 about it left is drivers and such to make everything work 100% like audio and radio(4G), now the 5.0.1 ROMs are less closer to true Sense 7, they have many Sense 6 libs and such left behind and its mainly only focused on the apks, like Settings app and Sense Home for example, this is why the 5.0.1 (base without mods) ports don't have the flashlight toggle in QS because the SystemUI.apk still have Sense 6 elements while the 5.0.2 ROMs have full sense 7 SystemUI.apk.
When Sense 7 releases there wouldn't be any visual changes compared to the 5.0.2 ports at all, however it is believed that when its finally out it will come with Android 5.1, so HTC might make some changes but I am unsure, however there will be a couple Android changes at that point like swiping up on a heads up notification to hide it(without fully dismissing), but the current 5.0.2 ports will feel exactly like the M9 does, so nothing is missing about it, and of course its still the M8, so HK works and all that, so it feel like M8 for sure rather then an M9 port where something could potentially be missing.
As for earphones, I am an audiophile but I spend a bit more money then that, you wouldn't believe what you could be missing until you get some real high end headphones, now I understand that more expensive doesn't always mean better but in some cases it does, I mean some headphones are not $299 for NO reason, I my self wouldn't go under $79 but that's just me, my build quality on my $212 earphones is great, you know what you should try out? go get some Klipsch S4's or S5's, they are cheap for what your paying for, I assure you they will sound better then the ones you have now, you always have a return policy so try it out for fun if you want, put it on a credit card so no real money is being spent yet
For Audio its not just about lows and high, mids, sound stage, clarity and many others are also very important, so currently you may enjoy your set up, then you try something real high end and then realize that your current setup may have muddy lows and artificial highs, also separation is important as well, for example, you could have a huge bass note booming in your ear but yet at the same time it won't overlap any other frequency AT ALL so when a bass note happens the singers voice will not appear to get quieter or distorted, it will sound like the bass note is coming from a separate sub woofer in the room while the mids and highs are playing from a dedicated speaker but in reality you just have earphones/buds on! You can say you have this now but yet again its one of those things you have to experience to realize your current setup either doesn't have it or doesn't have it enough.
Please understand my respect to you here, I am not bashing you but just saying there is an other level you can achieve here you have never heard, its kind of like 2D to 3D and other dimensions you may not know exists
I have expensive Polk Audio Speakers in my car, I also have $249 computer speakers and yet my earphones still are much better then both of them, its to a point I have had these earphones for 2-3 years and I am still shocked by them, its also mind boggling to me how these earphones/buds can sound better then a studio or a real speaker for that matter.
@Viper4713, well that would definitely explain why Sense 6 toolbox works perfectly on my M8. So for that reason I think I'll stick around ARHD for a while longer Hehe.
And about the headphones, yeah I'm completely aware, I had some great sounding ones when I was younger. Never went for anything under 30 quid, and once bought a £90 over ears. Beautiful sound.
And yet, 2 months later, like clockwork, it breaks. Haha I'm sure some expensive headphones have amazing sound. But i cant afford to be shelling 50 quid everytime I break some headphones But I'm just pointing out that I was so surprised at the sound I got from my Panasonic's, it's incredible. Obvi it's not the best, and a bit bass heavy, yet it provides nearly a distortionless sound.
For that kind of price tag I'm just surprised it's not well known. But search it, look at the reviews for yourself HJE190 and the HJC120.
Enjoy.
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Kyuubi10 said:
@Viper4713, well that would definitely explain why Sense 6 toolbox works perfectly on my M8. So for that reason I think I'll stick around ARHD for a while longer Hehe.
And about the headphones, yeah I'm completely aware, I had some great sounding ones when I was younger. Never went for anything under 30 quid, and once bought a £90 over ears. Beautiful sound.
And yet, 2 months later, like clockwork, it breaks. Haha I'm sure some expensive headphones have amazing sound. But i cant afford to be shelling 50 quid everytime I break some headphones But I'm just pointing out that I was so surprised at the sound I got from my Panasonic's, it's incredible. Obvi it's not the best, and a bit bass heavy, yet it provides nearly a distortionless sound.
For that kind of price tag I'm just surprised it's not well known. But search it, look at the reviews for yourself HJE190 and the HJC120.
Enjoy.
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Just letting you know Sense 6 Toolbox works the same on 5.0.2 ports, it just doesn't work on S.ROM and the M9
Viper4713 said:
Just letting you know Sense 6 Toolbox works the same on 5.0.2 ports, it just doesn't work on S.ROM and the M9
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Wait, you sure? Coz that wasn't specified on the module updates, nor the module itself, it just said Sense 7. Which is why I'm getting confused.
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Kyuubi10 said:
Wait, you sure? Coz that wasn't specified on the module updates, nor the module itself, it just said Sense 7. Which is why I'm getting confused.
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Worked on Skydragon 5.0.2 which is Sense 7 port, ARHD which is Sense 7 port just unfinished, M9 is not port.
how did you guys install Xposed ? I'm facing some troubles with it. I'm on ARHD 41.0 if this helps
foued1994 said:
how did you guys install Xposed ? I'm facing some troubles with it. I'm on ARHD 41.0 if this helps
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Explain what kind of troubles you're having first, then we'll see what we can do.
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READ THE ENTIRE POST
original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308993
Just sharing the news.
smokin1337 said:
I personally didn't think beats was all that great but alot of users like it so i made this flashable version for my rom. Figure everyone else would enjoy it as well. It does replace some files though such as services.jar and framework.jar. I have only tested it with my rom but it should work with any rom but i suggest making a nandroid backup just in case.
This is the full beats with icons and eveything
Now with HotSpot working (Thanks Leoisright)
Sense Roms ONLY
Anyways just flash it in recovery and enjoy
Now has universal updater-script so it can be flashed on any device But probably will not work so try at your own risk !!
A few have reported that it flashes on other devices and it boots so it may just work on some.
This is developed for the Evo 3D it is on the portal and because of my title it says for ANY Sense rom but it was made for the 3d. but if you want to try it on other devices i strongly recommend a nandroid backup before testing. I'll be looking into the possibility of multiple devices soon. Sorry for the confusion..
If you are getting FC with Music try the FC-FIX and see if it works and post if it did or not. I am trying to figure out what the problem is
ORIGINAL Download (First boot may take some time, Be patient !!):
Beats-HotSpot-signed.zip - 7.9 MB
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Here are links to the files with update-script for our phone that I know work.
Post in this thread only to confirm working and to discuss the effects. Post in the original thread for support.
WARNING:
1st boot will take extra time.
It might possibly screw up your phone. MAKE A BACK UP.
If your running a theme, ask your themer to incorporate this.
Dont ***** if it doesnt work.
Download ----
TB-Beats
TB-beats fix (only flash if you are seeing fc's in music app
I'm currently running gingeritis 3D and Chingy ported this over in his ROM, now I hear a slight difference but i assume by HTC it was made to best be heard using beats earphones/headphones. Have you tried this and confirmed it working?
Yeah. most are saying its best used with Beats headphones. But those already have amplified bass. So I dunno if they are just thinking it works better or not.
I cant flash it on my phone (well not yet at least) the stock music player wont load on my. I broke it somehow. . I do however own a set of very nice headphones that are better audio quality than 'Beats' but cant test the new audio stuff yet... Would be nice to get a little deeper bass with stock music app (once I reflash a clean ROM)
What difference did you notice?
bad4u6669 said:
Yeah. most are saying its best used with Beats headphones. But those already have amplified bass. So I dunno if they are just thinking it works better or not.
I cant flash it on my phone (well not yet at least) the stock music player wont load on my. I broke it somehow. . I do however own a set of very nice headphones that are better audio quality than 'Beats' but cant test the new audio stuff yet... Would be nice to get a little deeper bass with stock music app (once I reflash a clean ROM)
What difference did you notice?
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a very slight difference on stock ported gingeritis, but when time permits I'll make a backup and flash this and test it out. Hope someone has tried or is trying this and keep us informed, I also read from adrynalyne that 95% of the beats ports where fake so...I'm not sure if this on a software level or if this includes hardware.
Most people commenting in the original thread are saying they hear a difference. But it might be all in their head.
As far as trying this out, he stated this was is based off desire HD roms because of the sense 3.0. And Im pretty sure our roms are also based off the Desire HD rom for the sense 3.0. So theoretically it should work... but we all know how well those go... Hense all the warnings i put in the OP.
All it is is some compression and.altered eq...maybe a bit of gain....on a pair of studio monitors it.makes everything sound ****ty but for a pair of cheapo headphones it might have some benefit, I also noticed it accentuated audio clicks, glitches, things that overshadow the whole objective of the app/dsp in the first place.
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The CPU usage is also unreasonable.
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This is kind of useless unless you have a beats optimized output device
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
Read this
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/htc-sensation-xe-with-beats-audio-review/
Go to the software part, it tells you pretty much what "beats audio" does to the output. That being said, I have a pair of beats pro's and *maybe* noticed a tiny difference at the most. Most likely all this does is take the stock EQ and bump it up in certain places, if it actually does anything at all.
No go on synergy r267. Shows install went ok. Cleared davlik and cache.
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shadowpunx said:
This is kind of useless unless you have a beats optimized output device
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
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that made me LOL. Beats optimized output device...? So... over priced headphones?
I tried the beat mod on chingys Gingeritis. It does slightly increase the mid bass. That was the most noticeable change, well besides the fact it also greatly increases the hi's so the sound doesn't become muddy. And as stated before you will definitely hear crackling on max volume.
I have played audio out both to my car stereo via head phone jack and to my headphones (definitely not cheapys, and better than any "optimized beats equipment") Its all the same noticeable difference. I haven't tried on my cheap ear buds yet, but will give them a good run tomorrow when I take my street bike out for a Sunday put put.
Using this mod does disable the stock EQ that is built into htc music app. or at least it did on my phone.
I will officially classify this mod as 80% hype and 20% function.
If you have anything professional you wont need to eq anything that was recorded and mastered properly. I promise.
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Its not like I need more bass or high end out of a radiohead album, the Guy who's best at deciding the equal of everything already determined that. All of this post processing bull**** is just to make wank headphones sound "Fuller" "richer" but by no means more accurate, and to be honest a complete waste of CPU.
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bad4u6669 said:
that made me LOL. Beats optimized output device...? So... over priced headphones?
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I wrote this on rootz, figured I would share it here too.
People seem to forget what beats are about. They don't make the music sound "better" they make it sound "clearer". You want "better" sounding music then yes, the others do a good job of that. But if you want to hear the music, how it sounds to artists in a studio, without extra filters, eq's, etc. put on by Bose, Sony, and the other manufacturers, then Beats are the way to go. I'm going to guess none of you have ever been inside a real studio (not your friend's basment with a mic and a padded wall, that isn't a studio) so you saying that beats don't do this, and are all marketing bs, don't really know what you are talking about.
I have had the Solos, sold them and got the Studio's, and sold them and now have the Pro's and I can say I have never heard music clearer before than I have with these. Want to know why the base sounds "deeper" or the treble is "louder" with other headphones? Because that's how they are made. Beats are made to sound exactly how the artist made the song in the studio and wanted people to hear it.
/endrant
I am an audio production major, my school has a multi million dollar studio and no one uses beats. AKG, SENNHEISER, AUDIO TECHNICA are the three major brands for lower end accurate audio reproduction. Truly "clear" headphones are electrostatic such as the ~$1000 stax in Japan, they require their own amp. I think its hillarious that you think beats (which have over accentuated lows and highs...to give compressed music come off of a ****ty audio driver (like the tbolt) a bigger richer sound? More accurate? Absolutely not recessed mids are guarunteed when you "eq" a set of headphones like beats chose to do. The most hillarious part is were in a discussion thread talking about a plugin that does that same eq/compression/gain bull**** and above poster is repping beats to be about accurate sound reproduction. You obviously know a lot less about audio than you pretend to....
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Not to mention with all of the money they put towards marketing, Justin bieber beats, p diddy beats, lady GaGa beats....its obvious that its directed at the commercial consumer market, NOT FOR THE AUDIOPHILE/PRODUCER. Go test a pair of ATH-M50s if you don't believe me...
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Case and point, beats useless, if you really know how you want your music to sound use playerpro with dsp pack, if your getting cracking, then lower your preamp and get a better output. My brother works the sound board for the starland ballroom in nj, very big venue, and I'm assistant production manager. We have had everyone from Justin bieber to as I lay dying. Beats that you guys are using isn't even the true beats that comes with whatever phones its coming with these days. Do some research and you'll find that out
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
And what I mean by beats optimized is its set up to work best with the way beats headphones are set up...is that alittle easier to understand?
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
Ok, in light of my recent hair-pulling problems with CM10.1 lately, I have decided to give to the community instead of taking from it.
The Mega-Audiorific Atrix Discussion Thread
Drumroll please... Wait... How could I forget about the bass.
If you are lazy with listening to music (shame on you), skip to 0:56
This thread is here for 2 reasons.
Code:
1. It is hard to find the information I'm about to provide.
2. I want people to provide their insight on anything music related to the Atrix such as the following:
Examples:
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
To keep this thread in this subforum however, and not the General Android Discussion section,
I ask that you only provide answers to these questions regarding the Atrix, and make that known.
This is not a "I love this artist!" or "I don't think you know very much about music." thread.
Please keep replies to a minimum, so that this does not get flooded with flamers or Nazi's (no offense meant...sorry if I offended).
Everyone has their opinion, and they have the right to defend it, but they don't have the right to attack with it.
Be mature. Pushing opinions on others will get you nowhere. Opinions are opinions, not facts.
Without further ado, let's get started.
And I will start with the main reason audio sounds generally better with your Atrix.
The reason your Atrix sounds so good is... (dun dun duuuuuh...badum ch!!)
The Atrix 4G has a dedicated audio chip in it! =3 It's a medium-low end Wolfson chip.
Hard to find the info for it, but I wanted to know what made PowerAMP with FLAC
sound so good compared to an iPhone with ALAC. (both with equalizer off, charger port on iPhone -> Audio jack/headphones)
If you do some digging, you'll find this to be true.
I'm going to miss my Atrix when it becomes time to move on to another phone
I have my eyes set on the HTC One X+ or the Samsung Galaxy S4,
depending on what my budget is when the time comes.
Drakonas said:
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
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1)Was using motorola's default. on gb had the best sound.
now im using xenoamp.
2) mp3. too little space for flacs
3)Again, xenoamp. its calibration functions REALLY makes a difference. like listening youtube in 240p vs 480p.
4)officicial bkur gb had the best stock sound... now, only xenoamp does...
5)Rock and techno.
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andresrivas said:
1)Was using motorola's default. on gb had the best sound.
now im using xenoamp.
2) mp3. too little space for flacs
3)Again, xenoamp. its calibration functions REALLY makes a difference. like listening youtube in 240p vs 480p.
4)officicial bkur gb had the best stock sound... now, only xenoamp does...
5)Rock and techno.
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Cool. I haven''t heard of XenoAMP. I'll check it out.
I guess I can answer the questions with my answers. Also, future readers, please don't think that you have to use these questions, specifically. This is a discussion thread! It's not just a poll!
1: I've used PowerAMP since I got into FLAC. For me, nothing has beaten the audio quality and ranges I can get out of PowerAMP.
2: I guess I answered this in #1 and my OP. I love and always will use FLAC. With that said, the best way to do this is to purchase the CDs yourself! To be honest, most local CDs are the same price, or even less expensive, than iTunes or other markets (Import albums, of course, cost more usually). Not only that, but you get upwards 10x the quality! How can you beat that? Seriously, try sticking an official CD (not burned from iTunes) in your car radio, if you have one, and hear the difference for yourself!
Of course, I understand that MP3's are way smaller, and going along with what andresrivas said, not everyone has a 16+GB SD card. xD
3: I will say that when I used to use GB, and I was testing out audio, I didn't feel like spending time working on PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer. It was just too much. So, I looked into other apps, and found that Equalizer helped to make things sound better, using its 5 band equalizer and many presets that I actually used to use. Check it out if you're looking for a better equalizer for your entire phone! (I'm guessing XenoAMP does something similar?)
4: Actually, recently I trying CM9 out (krystianp's version with the 3.1.10 kernel), and my phone sounded better than I heard it immediately upon restoring my PowerAMP app+data through TiBu (Titanium Backup) Pro. It was amazing, and I hadn't even changed the usual preset's settings that I used. For some reason, CM10.1 by Epinter doesn't sound as good though, which saddens me...
5: Drum & Bass. The phone and the audio systems I regularly use are able to really pick up those residual base backgrounds along with the short, punchy beats up front. Also, Hifana's albums sound amazing! You can check one of their songs out here, if you're interested. I linked to track 12 because it's awesome and shows you their style, but you will need to sign in to listen. I highly recommend this site for listening, because it's much higher quality than Youtube (almost lossless, it feels like), and they have a lot of albums available for free listening...
If you want more of Hifana, listen to that whole album, and then check out their Channel H album. All of their music is good, in my opinion.
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
PowerAMP
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
MP3 Flac and aac
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
DSP Manager
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
CyanogenMod 7.2
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
Heavy Metal :good:
Well.. its sad, My Atrix just stopped sounding. Neither from speaker, nor from headset. Wish I could do something about it without spending too much. :crying:
1. Player: Play Music
2. Music Format: MP3
3. App: DSP Manager with bass enhancement.
4. Rom: MROM
5. Music: Anything with good beats especially old school hip hop and glitch music.
crack.mech said:
Well.. its sad, My Atrix just stopped sounding.
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Sorry to hear about that.
You should try searching the forums, something like "Atrix 4G no sound" or "Atrix 4G sound issue". Adding your rom name or searching "stock" in addition to those might help if they apply to you.
I realize that you're just commenting on your situation (and not asking for support). Thanks for this.
If you're on stock, I can't help you much anyways. I haven't used stock Atrix in 2 years. I would search first, as per XDA rules/requests (plus it's just being courteous), then ask in the Atrix Q & A section of the forum. Perhaps a rom reinstall might help? (You can Factory Reset without rooting/unlocking bootloader)
Make sure to read instructions in the General threads, and of course the Beginners' Guide. They might help as well.
Just thought I'd try to help
(For future readers) This is in the general section, so support questions don't apply here. I'd also prefer not to have support question clutter. (I know you weren't exactly doing so, crack.mech )
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Sorry to hear about that.
You should try searching the forums, something like "Atrix 4G no sound" or "Atrix 4G sound issue". Adding your rom name or searching "stock" in addition to those might help if they apply to you.
I realize that you're just commenting on your situation (and not asking for support). Thanks for this.
If you're on stock, I can't help you much anyways. I haven't used stock Atrix in 2 years. I would search first, as per XDA rules/requests (plus it's just being courteous), then ask in the Atrix Q & A section of the forum. Perhaps a rom reinstall might help? (You can Factory Reset without rooting/unlocking bootloader)
Make sure to read instructions in the General threads, and of course the Beginners' Guide. They might help as well.
Just thought I'd try to help
(For future readers) This is in the general section, so support questions don't apply here. I'd also prefer not to have support question clutter. (I know you weren't exactly doing so, crack.mech )
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Thanks for the suggestions Drakonas. I have been flashing different ROMs for a while now, and it doesn't seem to help. Though I hear some sort of crackling noise through the headset when I turn up the volume to full while playing music. As per my (re)search this seems to be a flex cable issue, but seems a bit wierd, as the speaker is not connected via flex cable ( I have opened up my atrix a few times!1 ). So I seriously doubt replacing the flex cable would help. But except for the audio issues, my atrix is still going strong, all thanks to the great developer community here.
And, I am seriously sorry to hijack this thread. Please accept my apologies.
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Thanks for the suggestions Drakonas. I have been flashing different ROMs for a while now, and it doesn't seem to help. Though I hear some sort of crackling noise through the headset when I turn up the volume to full while playing music. As per my (re)search this seems to be a flex cable issue, but seems a bit wierd, as the speaker is not connected via flex cable ( I have opened up my atrix a few times!1 ). So I seriously doubt replacing the flex cable would help. But except for the audio issues, my atrix is still going strong, all thanks to the great developer community here.
And, I am seriously sorry to hijack this thread. Please accept my apologies.
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Did you try to connect your atrix through an external portable amplifier? This may help.
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1. PowerAMP
2. MP3 Flac and aac
3. DSP Manager
4. CyanogenMod 7.2
5. Heavy Metal :good:
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1. Yep... I like it too.
2. Hey, whatever suits your preference.
3. Yeah, with some tweaking of it, you can get good sound. (This is from/for CyanogenMod roms for those who don't know) If I'm listening to music with PowerAMP, though, I don't like DSP Manager on. It's my preference, since I've customized PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer myself, vs DSP Manager's 5-band equalizer. Running 10-band through 5-band can defeat the purpose of the 10-band, but it depends I suppose.
4. Love CyanogenMod! Are you using a popular rom, by chance? I don't have the knowledge to customize a rom yet, so I usually just use one of the pre-built roms out there. My favorite for CM7 on the Atrix was Neutrino, but I changed to Atrix-MROM because it had the same battery-life and even better performance for me. Plus, the developer knows more what he's doing. He's part of the new 4.0 Kernel Project team.
5. I don't really listen to heavy metal, not anymore at least. I guess I grew up around teens that listened to it and thought it was the most amazing thing ever. (plus they often didn't care to try any other music. This probably differs you from them, hopefully ) I soon learned that there are thousands and possibly millions of styles of music out there, and there's more around every doorstep. I've spent the last 5 years building my music tastes, and I've switched favorite genres about 20 times, until I found the underground 20-year-old Drum & Bass scene.
But to each their own. Any specific artists that you like? I used to listen to DragonForce a lot, but I guess that's more Power Metal than Heavy Metal.
anaschillin said:
1. Player: Play Music
2. Music Format: MP3
3. App: DSP Manager with bass enhancement.
4. Rom: MROM
5. Music: Anything with good beats especially old school hip hop and glitch music.
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1. Hey, saving music in the cloud can be really useful. I guess the only reason I wouldn't want to is (A) I prefer FLAC which isn't usually provided and (B) I don't have a data plan currently, so playing on the go would be impossible. I have a lot of space anyways... I suppose you have a phone without much space to hold music?
2. Again, space. Plus I suppose it's the best format to use with Play Music.
3. Yeah, DSP really helps with MP3. I agree. I will say that if you get better headphones, you'll get better bass and clarity. I recommend some $10 to $20 Koss in-ear headphones for the lowest price, if you're not the person to have money laying around. Off-brand are usually crap, like Skullcandy. And for goodness sakes, if you want high-end headphones don't buy Beats by Dr. Dre. It is well known that they are overpriced pieces of crap compared to what you could get for half (or even less) of the price. Get some Audio-Technica Over-the-ears if you have that kind of money.
4. I love MROM. Best CM7 for Atrix in my opinion.
5. Nice! Make sure you check out Autechre and Flying Lotus, if you haven't already!
Drakonas said:
1. Yep... I like it too.
2. Hey, whatever suits your preference.
3. Yeah, with some tweaking of it, you can get good sound. (This is from/for CyanogenMod roms for those who don't know) If I'm listening to music with PowerAMP, though, I don't like DSP Manager on. It's my preference, since I've customized PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer myself, vs DSP Manager's 5-band equalizer. Running 10-band through 5-band can defeat the purpose of the 10-band, but it depends I suppose.
4. Love CyanogenMod! Are you using a popular rom, by chance? I don't have the knowledge to customize a rom yet, so I usually just use one of the pre-built roms out there. My favorite for CM7 on the Atrix was Neutrino, but I changed to Atrix-MROM because it had the same battery-life and even better performance for me. Plus, the developer knows more what he's doing. He's part of the new 4.0 Kernel Project team.
5. I don't really listen to heavy metal, not anymore at least. I guess I grew up around teens that listened to it and thought it was the most amazing thing ever. (plus they often didn't care to try any other music. This probably differs you from them, hopefully ) I soon learned that there are thousands and possibly millions of styles of music out there, and there's more around every doorstep. I've spent the last 5 years building my music tastes, and I've switched favorite genres about 20 times, until I found the underground 20-year-old Drum & Bass scene.
But to each their own. Any specific artists that you like? I used to listen to DragonForce a lot, but I guess that's more Power Metal than Heavy Metal.
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2. The most part of music i keep in mp3
4. Yes, i use official cm, last nightly. But recently i was try cm 10.1 with 3.1 kernel... and i like it
5. I love this music from childhood
Iron Maiden, Chrome Division, Черный обелиск and little Ария. I also listen other genre of rock and metal . List all my favorite groups take much time, so i attached screenshot
Sorry for my bad English
How about adding links to all music enhancers... i.e. dsp manager, beats, voodoo or what ever else they have for Atrix... And I know voodoo is not for Atrix...
Sent 4rm My O.G. Atrix on it's Lapdock using Weptop+... Which let me add is so Extra F***ing Beast... Galaxy S4 can't touch this...
Atrix MROM with Shure E4c
Nice to know there are still Atrix fans. I am addicted to the sound quality delivered by Moto Atrix since 2011. Now I have three of it (one 2.3.4 as mobile, one MROM with minor touch screen defect as music player and one brand new as spare).
music app -> DoomPlay (it plays additional ALAC, 24bit96 WAV, BUT play mp3 may distort);
audio format -> mainly 16_44 WAV, some ALAC;
app sound better -> DSP manager with enabled bass boost set moderate, enabled equaliser set acoustic;
rom sound best -> MROM with DSP manager
best music sounds -> M.J., The Carpenters, Korea OST like ht tps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6n5Ho9n9OPM
Moto Atrix drives my shure E4c earphone pretty well. No portable amplifier required.
Instead of MROM, I find the music sound seems a bit better from my Atrix 2.2.2.
I can feel the pure silence, position is more accurate and more crisp clear.
Hey,
I'm having annoying problems with the bluetooth audio. The audio sounds distorted/fuzzy and is very easy to hear in certain songs
when the chorus or similar kicks in. I used the same headset with my Xperia Z and there was no audio quality problems.
I have also tested other bluetooth devices and its the same stuff going on...
Here is the funny part - when I flash CM11 and try the bluetooth-sound, the quality is perfect!
So I'm pretty damn sure its an software releated issue... I could just use CM11 ofcourse but the problem is then I miss out on other stock features I like
One song that shows this audio problem very clear is: Papa Roach - Leader Of The Broken Hearts. Spotify link here!
I've also tried to mess around some with ViPER4Android but with no good results...
Anyone has any good ideas?
Nobody has nothing to say on this matter? :victory:
I agree. Stock Bluetooth was terrible. Been using Viper for a while now... It's very good, when it's working. Even as a system app, it's being stopped and then it restarts a couple seconds later. Enable aptx in terminal and see if that helps. My head unit is old, so it did nothing for me.
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ffejy462 said:
I agree. Stock Bluetooth was terrible. Been using Viper for a while now... It's very good, when it's working. Even as a system app, it's being stopped and then it restarts a couple seconds later. Enable aptx in terminal and see if that helps. My head unit is old, so it did nothing for me.
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Still have this strange high-ends distortions with/without ViPER, and it crashes all the time as you say.
My LG G2 original box says phone has Aptx enabled? I don't know if it matters though, my Sony Smart Wireless headset Pro (MW1) doesn't have Aptx support. However MW1 sounded great on Xperia Z and other various phones so I blame LG for fu**ing up the bluetooth drivers xD
My best bet right now is hoping for the 4.4 update to fix this problem. If not - this is a dealbreaker (change phone) to me because I listen to music via bluetooth all the time!
Crashes is a pretty song word. I'd say it's being stopped by the os. I've been having better luck with Viper audio after changing some kernel settings. Interactive Gov, read ahead buffer to 2048, and min frequency at 628. Viper had an update last week also. I've read some irs convolver settings don't like being used as system app. Been using a thx convolver with good luck lately.
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my bluetooth is flawless even without any tweaks (and judging by many threads here regarding it, it seems to be a compatibility issue rather than LG "screwing something up" ) but have you tried this:
enabling AptX codec:
1. adb shell
2. su
3. setprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx 1
check that property was changed:
4. getprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx
you should get "1"
reboot the phone and check bluetooth sound quality.
to eliminate Viper being killed by the system just make it a system app and make sure you followed the installation instructions (including the build.prop tweaks if necessary).
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my bluetooth is flawless even without any tweaks (and judging by many threads here regarding it, it seems to be a compatibility issue rather than LG "screwing something up" ) but have you tried this:
enabling AptX codec:
1. adb shell
2. su
3. setprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx 1
check that property was changed:
4. getprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx
you should get "1"
reboot the phone and check bluetooth sound quality.
to eliminate Viper being killed by the system just make it a system app and make sure you followed the installation instructions (including the build.prop tweaks if necessary).
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A compability issue IS something that LG screwed up. This is the first Android phone I have with such useless bluetooth sound quality
I have tried to enable Aptx and got the result 1 but since the headset only supports A2DP it will not matter I think. I got ViPER4Android to work as well but the sound is still bad... I mean some parts sounds really good and clear but some parts where the high ends are kicking in loud the sound gets distorted
Still haven't solved this, good thing CM11 works pretty decent. It lacks some awesome stock features but the audio is nice so I can live with it
"I have a similar issue in my 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe. The static is only present during loud levels on songs, not at all times during the track. Seems like it is most noticeable on the higher frequencies also. Please reply here if your issue is the same.
I did not have this problem on my HTC One X in the same car.
I have searched all over Android and Hyundai forums and found little to work with. What I have found is that this is not affecting everyone, otherwise it would be all over the forums. I appears to me that it is related to our cars bluetooth receivers and how they communicate with the phone.
I found some posts from a user CBaronne where he had what appeared to be the same issue on another phone and modified the "Bitpool" value with good results. He wanted to do the same on this phone but the variable is buried in a system file and modifying it was beyond his expertise.
I have also flashed several sound mods with no success, as well as different tricks to ensure that APT X is enabled. Nothing has helped.
I think until we get a developer with this phone and has this issue there will not be any attempt made to resolve. You can always just buy another car..."
I have been posting this comment in several threads to try an get some attention on it. This issue is not common enough for it to have consistent comments or investigation.
Other threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47418870#post47418870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47423589#post47423589
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49735305#post49735305
Reading other Android forums and Hyundai threads it DOES appear to be a compatibility issue, meaning that it is about the combination of two devices, it does not affect every G2 bluetooth connection. From the first link I posted it DOES appear that if we can adjust the bitpool values of the G2 we could improve the quality.
I have this same problem with my vw Jetta. My nexus 4 sounded amazing and now this g2 sounds like sh*t.
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Okey, so I finally got so pissed off about this - that I got an HTC One, coming with 4.2.2 pre-installed.
Funny thing is this phone had more or less the same bluetooth-audio problems in 4.2.2.
However when I did the update to 4.3 on the HTC One the sound quality became perfect! I also installed 4.4.2 recently on the HTC, but sound is still great whatsoever.
So if HTC didn't fix this in 4.3 by themselves, its probably a bluetooth-fix coming with 4.3+, which means ppl just have to sit tight for official 4.4.x or use CM11 meanwhile.
Offtopic: I don't really miss the LG G2 luckily, HTC One feels more premium in hand and the UI is very fast and well designed. The loss of better hardware specs is just some words on a paper. Hell, I would say the HTC One even feels snappier!
I bought a BT 'headset' type thingy from Amazon that has APT-x on it as my current one is old and it has always sounded terrible via BT compared to wired.
The list of all APT-x BT stereo headphones is here... APT-X Headphone list. I found another list, but, it linked back to each individual page on this list, lol.
The one I chose to buy, primarily based on price, but also on user reviews was this one... BlueAnt Ribbon
I didn't want a big 'Beats' type deal, so it had to be a small model. The only ones I could find to buy in the US at a 'reasonable' price of $24 was the BlueAnt Ribbon and the HTC bluetooth stereo headphones. The HTC cost about twice as much with shipping. Mainly because the product is not (yet?) available in the US and the HTC is shipped from Taiwan after buying on Ebay.
There is a really slick silver looking dealy, but, I don't have $120 to blow on something that will likely function in the same capacity, but, looks cooler. Maybe when I spend more time making money and less time trolling XDA forums I can buy them, lol.
i know this is dragging a old thread up a bit but im having the same issues with my sony car stereo, it sounds as if bitrate is low and when you hit a high point in song its distorted crackly and hissy
has anyone found any solutions to this on 4.4.2 or is cm still the only decent fix? i like the LG features but i think all the decent ones have been ported over
any help would be amazing
OKAY, I have the phone with GPE Conversion. Which is pretty much perfect in terms of what I want.
But I seem to have run out of things to play with which as most of you will know is not a good thing. I have had another play with the S4, S3 and Nexus 4 but this is my daily driver and I want to play.
I WON'T go to sense as there is too much about GPE I like. (Full GN implementation, Search Dialler , lack of sense etc)
I have Xposed with boot manager, Gravity, Xposed Gel, Xuimod and Youtube.
My big thing is music. I have Poweramp, N7 and Neutron installed and I only play FLAC. Not interested in Harman Kardon as better sound is gained by the right EQ/Gain etc settings and using lossless files.
I have messed with kernels but stock GPE does all I need it to and I get no visible improvement with those 'others'
Normally I would buy another phone but funds won't allow that right now so I am simply asking, does anyone have any serious suggestions of things to try with GPE that will allow me to tweak/play/mod?
I am hoping I haven't reached my Android Utopia as my inner "phone fiddler" mentality is craving.
Hello everyone
Found a very useful sound mo - latest version works on Z5C, with Xpower 5, Z3C (Confirmed) and probably others.
MOD LINK
Just sharing it with the community
Which one did you install?
did you notice any difference?
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Which one did you install?
did you notice any difference?
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Installed the latest (Non systemless one) pretty sure it was version 7.9 or something.
And yeah the difference in what you can change, if you know what you are doing, it can sound amazing
Well they're not bad
Quite good
Can get more bass out of the stock player
And i noticed the sound also doesnt go over the normal volume limit which is nice
Do we have to use the stock music app to see some changes or it works with every music app (I've Soundcloud in mind) ?
Mwa, using 10 different audiomods is overkill. This is just a combination of 4 equalizers, 5 bass boosters, 6 sound enhancers and so on. It's true that a good sound mod can improve your sound a lot, but only if you use it in a clever way.
I used this for a while, but I removed these mods because this just doesn't work. It does give you a lot of extra bass and treble, but it also amplifies noise. Not just a little bit, but a lot. If you just stick to one mod (like Viper4Android) it's much better for your sound and you have more control.
I used to use this soundmod back on the Xperia Z2 that enhances bass and clarity, however it also became one of these "Supermods". Too many audio engines running would kill your battery (as to what I've read) and most of them overlapping would just give you a placebo effect. Good share though. I have been tempted to flash one of these supermods again, I guess I'll be holding back for now.