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Could you upload more pictures please? Macro photos looks almost always great.
Can U upload the full size images to http://imageshack.us/ ?
because the images u posted are processed and downsized in quality and size (~500KB).
the compression or noise reduction is visible in panorama not macro. the macros are food Also with 2.3.4
These are some recent photos iv taken with the arc s.
I uploaded them from the the xda app so the orientation and image size is compressed. The photo of the waterfall is on its side. Turn your screen
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Camera Uploads/2012-04-02 12.19.42.jpg?w=378894cd
http://db.tt/Avv3SFqS
http://db.tt/JcyggvES
http://db.tt/k63EiMLH
Links to my Dropbox photos at full quality.
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Less macro shots, more distant shots; let's see if detail can be resolved at a distance because macro makes it too easy. I am waiting for the official ICS to be out to show some side by side comparison against my other GB arc
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Less macro shots, more distant shots; let's see if detail can be resolved at a distance because macro makes it too easy. I am waiting for the official ICS to be out to show some side by side comparison against my other GB arc
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Check my 1st link in post above. It seems at 100% zoom this images still seem compressed with smeared detail. The Sky has visible noise and smearing even in broad daylight. I'm getting the HTC One X when my cap is finished with the arc, I hope the photo quality is better than arc
I honestly don't expect the lack of detail or smearing to go away, I just think it's probably just a limitation of the camera; a minor improvement from ICS at best is optimistic. I tried lg camera pro, some minor arguable differences at 100% JPEG quality. It seems like the exmor R sensor has a flaw in daylight being unable to cope with brightness. I'd still like to see the oversaturation corrected at least, it's still present on the Xperia S picture samples I've seen.
Foliage looks terrible on the arc in bright lighting
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/12866_Camera_champions_head_to_head.php
arc is good for macro shots and night shots, anything else shows its weaknesses
We have to wait for the new ICS kernel and drivers, I think the beta was built on the GB kernel so the camera output is unchanged.
As for image quality in the above posts, it's quite simple.
Small pixels = easy saturation = low dynamic range. In order to live up to the marketing bull of low light performance, all highlights are blown.
Small pixels = more noise. In order to live up to the marketing bull of backside illumination, extremelly aggressive noise reduction is applied.
So what could be a decent (though not exceptional) camera, it is now crippled by marketing decissions that the average consumer will never notice.
Since the average consumer will probably not upgrade to ICS, I hope that Sony will re-work the camera firmware in ICS and make proper use of the sensor.
I agree. The over saturation is its biggest problem, that and purple lens flare. Even stopping down the ev doesn't fix the saturation problem in sunlight.
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I am even more troubled by the loss of detail due to noise reduction.
It is really frustrating to know that the detail was there but washed away. If only they could put a setting for noise reduction strength.
ICS official
i flashed my ard yesterday and one i know for sure, on GB pics weight 1-1.6MB and now 2-2.8MB
So jpeg compression level has changed for better, but still very strong denoising...
Xperia ray pics post ICS update
Can anybody post pics taken with xperia ray after ics update?
i have 2.3.4 and the pics are highly compressed. just want to see if that is removed in the update.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Close up photo and also a close up screenshot taken with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
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Close up photo and also a close up screenshot taken with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
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Good lord I hope that's with the telephoto lens
Quite impressed with low light performance. Took this at the weekend at the back on a dark cinema whilst waiting for the trailers to start. Auto mode, no flash, no editing.
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Quite impressed with low light performance. Took this at the weekend at the back on a dark cinema whilst waiting for the trailers to start. Auto mode, no flash, no editing.
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Wow, that looks amazing. I just got the Note 8 too but I haven't had a chance to do low-light yet.
By far, the best camera I've ever owned.
Just need to find a big-ass spider so I can post some examples.
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Close up photo and also a close up screenshot taken with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
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Please tell me you set fire to that nope...
jimmylips75 said:
Close up photo and also a close up screenshot taken with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
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Just a little TOO CLOSE for me!
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Close up photo and also a close up screenshot taken with my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
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that's an awesome background/screensaver.
I'm aware that during low light the images will appear grainy or noisy, but I can see the grain even in medium light condition. Image is set at 4.3 ratio highest bit rate for pics.
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How about wide color
So, what is the use of a wide color gamut capable display if the camera still shoots sRGB jpg?! I have not found any info on the color space profile of Note 8 jpegs and videos, can anyone chime in?
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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It was very dark at that hour and taken with telephoto camera not wide angle one.
ksekhar said:
It was very dark at that hour and taken with telephoto camera not wide angle one.
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have you edited this photo in some app or this is original unedited pic? looks not natural tho
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have you edited this photo in some app or this is original unedited pic? looks not natural tho
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Google photos auto
Now, this is by far not the best *quality* photos, but it does show off the functionality quite well. I took this photo of a room in my apartment with absolutely no lights on other than some light leaking into the hallway behind me from a neighboring room, and a pure red heat lamp for a tank (pictured). I went full manual, mounted the camera with some objects on a table, and set it to a 10 second shutter, thinking that I wouldn't be able to pull off holding it by hand. Then I held it by hand. These are the two photos I got (one braced on a table, one by hand) with a 10 second shutter in a DARK room (the braced one is zoomed in).
Here's a shot of that same room from out in the hallway where there's a little light (so you can see about how dark it is).
What happened to the scalable function between 0-100% when using photo filters like Vignette and Stardust etfc? Gone?
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I love the camera, works great for me
same
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I'm aware that during low light the images will appear grainy or noisy, but I can see the grain even in medium light condition. Image is set at 4.3 ratio highest bit rate for pics.
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Mine to even in really good lighting, using highest resolution.
Few observations after a month of use:
Picture quality overall is great, however the stock app tends to overblow the highlights in high contrast scenes. This is the effect of the small sensor size and it's prominent on all cellphones, however both Pixel 2 and iPhone X I've tested don't have that issue. However, installing and using the Google camera port helps the issue dramatically, so it's the HDR algorithm employed in the stock app, not the actual sensor.
Stock camera app is, however, both faster and more reliable in terms of snapping every day photos. Furthermore stock app has marginally less noise than Google Camera, but it also captures marginally less details. Stock camera also has less saturation and sharper gradients than Google Camera, likely a product of the algorithm as well.
The telephoto camera is decidedly worse than the wide angle one, even in bright light. You're trading off the dynamic range for zoom, and it's not just the difference in the lenses.
Lightroom HDR raw files (40mb 3.2MP image that contains 10 bit of colour) are mind-blowing. As an owner of full-frame Canon 6D I was blown away by the colour retention in Lightroom Camera app. On a DSLR you'd absolutely have to use bracketing to get those colours (although you'd get a 20 MP image), it's very impressive that a cellphone can do that. If only it shot out a 12 MP raw file.
Overall Note 8 has a very versatile camera with awesome picture quality, but certain scenes require he use of Google Camera for HDR+ algorithm to get the best results.
All credits goes to B-S-G
His original thread
and Thanks to XDA Headlines!
Link for GC
U11 Camera for still photos is (probably?) the best in class right now, but not without flaw that is overexposure.
As soon as the Modded HDR+ GC has become available I have decided to compare some shots with Stock camera w/HDR and Google Camera w/HDR+ enabled.
Here are some comparisons and my opinions.
Lowlight
http://imgur.com/2ziArQB
With Google Cam overexposure and blown out highlights are no longer an issue. However, the details in the shadow area of the low light image will get smudged out thanks to the noise reduction and/or become too dark.
on Stock HTC Sharpening is harsher than GC when 100% zoomed in but not as much as Sammy. The color on stock app is much more vibrant as well, but that comes with noisy image.
As a photographer I'd prefer lower noise image, but for smartphone camera that is not a very important thing comparing to, say, details in the dark area.
Overall Exposure and Details
http://imgur.com/Rqjk2hL
GC did a great job keeping all the details in highlight areas while stock app blown them to bits.
Colors, yet again HTC stock is punchy and vibrant on shadow areas while GC is a tad bit duller.
Close up
http://imgur.com/D7HEkbR
HTC, as usual, produce much more vibrant colors and more sharpened image while highlight areas are blown out.
It all comes down to your taste, people who like "Natural" tone will prefer GC while snap and go type better stick to HTCs'.
for me I prefer GC by the day and HTC stock by night as GC will give more room in image editing.
Basically, short squeeze for stock app, long squeez for Google Cam for me!
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Current working Gcam with Portrait mode
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V5.apk
Preferred Setting
Config for HDR+: Pixel 2017 ZSL HDR+
HDR+ Parameters: Default or higher (not much difference but longer process time)
Final jpg quality HDR+: default(95) or higher, little differences
For me, Google does a better job in low-light, my bathroom.
Clearer and more details, look at the spay can on the right at the back.
But I do like the greens produced by HTC Cam, Google pink/reds are better, all comes down to personal preference.
http://imgur.com/a/l3oTm
Google's HDR+ does great job in extreme HDR situations , but for my eyes HTC's HDR boost does greater job keeping everything sharp , Google just destroyes every detail with noise reduction
Check the link for comparison
https://goo.gl/photos/NYTaPRsEMVoxjoEc8
I know Pixel camera better but I've read all reviews on net and youtube and found that it always got over saturation during at low light or indoor environment like the sample provided from #2 if you view it carefully, you see a yellow cast in the whole photo with Pixel.
Indeed, U11 offers a natural tone overall, not Pixel in my opinions though HTC color might be a bit vibrant. If Pixel white balance isn't going wrong, yes it always perform better result. Good to know there is a modded google HDR+ now, donno if the yellow tone problem fixed or not.
U11 still got some advantages like OIS and dual pixel focus which is important to me too. Wish we'll have modded U11 camera in the future.
EDIT:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
It's glad that we can use Pixel HDR+ now on all SD820/821/835 devices without root. It's Google camera 4.4 apk and I've installed it on my U11(no root atm) and it works both HDR+ photo and 4K recording, no crash no FC. So if you prefer the style on Google HDR+ this is your way to go together with the benefit of OIS and dual pixel focus over Pixel phone.
Will OIS and pixel focus work on the google camera?
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Google's HDR+ does great job in extreme HDR situations , but for my eyes HTC's HDR boost does greater job keeping everything sharp , Google just destroyes every detail with noise reduction
Check the link for comparison
https://goo.gl/photos/NYTaPRsEMVoxjoEc8
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In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
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In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
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Some samples,i am not professional photographer but u can see for ur self,more lighter photo is htc stock camera,other G cam
Edit: focus is left oriented...
No edit,no flash,pure hdr..
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Will OIS and pixel focus work on the google camera?
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OIS does work and Pixel focus I assume you mean the "lens blur" function? if so, it also works.
The only thing that is not working in GC is slow motion.
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In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
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Hmm I was really steady , I have very steady hands and I can take 1s shutter , and I really tried it multiple times to make sure if it's really does reduce the noise and smudge the details or if it's just one bad shot , but actually all of them are the same
I really like it in extreme HDR situations though , so if HTC's upcoming camera update didn't boost the camera even more then maybe I will use gcam for really extreme HDR situations
I have tried it in broad day light and the dynamic range is really improved.
I will try it tonight but if it fixes the overexposure, it will really be the ultimate camera phone.
stock app
Pixel app
Edit : Now tried in the night, the difference is even greater. With the HTC U11 camera app, all the details are burnt near light sources, while it is not the case with the Pixel camera app.
stock app
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For me it is clear, the Pixel app will replace the stock app for my pictures. The HTC U11 camera module with the Google Pixel software, I think we have the best possible camera on a phone.
Stock camera is much better in every scenario...
foxy4270 said:
Stock camera is much better in every scenario...
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I strongly disagree.
Look at this window which is aproximately 150 meters far from me. With the Pixel app, I can clearly see he is watching TV. I am impressed. With the stock app, I see... nothing.
And with the Pixel, I don't find any detail loss.
stock app
HDR+ app
For me stock camera is better on daylight situations.
For nightshots GC wins.
So i will use them both.
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For me stock camera is better on daylight situations.
For nightshots GC wins.
So i will use them both.
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Again, I disagree, look at these crops in daylight (they are not mine but from the original poster of this thread). A lot of data are lost with the stock app due to the lower dynamic range. The difference is huge.
Stock
HDR+
For me, the HDR+ app wins in every situations.
Indoor night time
Gcam color rendering really off..
First one gcam
2ND stock
Hdr + is a disaster....worst camera ever
Google hdr +
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
stock by foxy4270, on Flickr
foxy4270 said:
Hdr + is a disaster....worst camera ever
Google hdr +
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
stock by foxy4270, on Flickr
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I think u are wrong,bit i am using it on 10 and can not be sure if u are on 11,but in ur post thoose two pictures are the same,and i know difference between g cam hdr+ and stock one,but again on htc 10,that is reason i am not sure for 11 but when something is good it's good,g cam is good for good light conditions,and in low light must bee some wb manually settings...
Sorry,in a hurry ,only light is different on ur pictures,when I compare that red sigh will be more red with g cam i am sure....
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I think u are wrong,bit i am using it on 10 and can not be sure if u are on 11,but in ur post thoose two pictures are the same,and i know difference between g cam hdr+ and stock one,but again on htc 10,that is reason i am not sure for 11 but when something is good it's good,g cam is good for good light conditions,and in low light must bee some wb manually settings...
Sorry,in a hurry ,only light is different on ur pictures,when I compare that red sigh will be more red with g cam i am sure....
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this is an htc u11 forum
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this is an htc u11 forum
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Clear case...
To me both apps got pros and cons. Stock cam tend to over exposure and in the opposite way google cam like to under exposure.
It really depends the atmosphere you're shooting and maybe your matter of personal preferences. In general, I like stock a bit over exposure to make the photo brighter except in some cases the high light area got washed out. Noise reduction in google camera is better, stock cam got many noise.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the HTC U11+ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Colour and exposure is good
Sharpness is poor for anything other than static objects
I'm trying out the Google Camera Port to see if there's any improvement, but otherwise I'm really disappointed in the lack of sharpness when there is any movement involved
msc125 said:
Colour and exposure is good
Sharpness is poor for anything other than static objects
I'm trying out the Google Camera Port to see if there's any improvement, but otherwise I'm really disappointed in the lack of sharpness when there is any movement involved
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Try using pro mode - sport
Tried it just now, pictures come out far too grainy and dark, because of the high ISO to compensate high shutter speed
I could adjust the settings, but I didn't want to get into the realm of adjusting all settings to take a quick snap
In the exact situation the camera is great in a well lit situation but anything other than that I need the subject to be completely still.
Disappointed I may send it back and get the Pixel 2 XL.
I played around with my friends Pixel 2XL, tested side by side shots, it isn't much better at all
The Google Camera Port on the U11+ is better, but only slightly with respect to motion.
In my testing so far;
- Less motion blur with Google Camera Port, but it's still there
- Definitely better detail with the U11+ camera
- Less blown out highlights with Google Camera Port
- Quicker shutter speed with U11+ camera all round
msc125 said:
I played around with my friends Pixel 2XL, tested side by side shots, it isn't much better at all
The Google Camera Port on the U11+ is better, but only slightly with respect to motion.
In my testing so far;
- Less motion blur with Google Camera Port, but it's still there
- Definitely better detail with the U11+ camera
- Less blown out highlights with Google Camera Port
- Quicker shutter speed with U11+ camera all round
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What is this port and where can I find it?
Is it the one made by Mark Harman on the Play store?
Hi, it's the port of the camera from the Pixel 2, you can find it here;
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
There is a bug- it force closes in slow motion mode
I've been using it more, and I've found that the Google Camera seems to have a kind of 'make- up' effect to people's skin. People's skin looks unnatural, almost too good. It doesn't look BAD on the HTC camera, it just looks real
Please let me know how you get on
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I played around with my friends Pixel 2XL, tested side by side shots, it isn't much better at all
The Google Camera Port on the U11+ is better, but only slightly with respect to motion.
In my testing so far;
- Less motion blur with Google Camera Port, but it's still there
- Definitely better detail with the U11+ camera
- Less blown out highlights with Google Camera Port
- Quicker shutter speed with U11+ camera all round
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What's your verdict?
I'm using a new version now, the one with added portrait mode
Check this out
https://www.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-portrait-mode-port-non-google-android-oreo/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/themes/app-collection-camera-modded-t3591177/page162
I'm using v1.3
Limited testing so far, but portrait mode works great
Detail is better than the port I was using before, and as before there are less blown out highlights then the U11+ camera
Very good especially for a smartphone. Shot using Stock camera app in pro mode for DNG, processed on PC https://photos.app.goo.gl/bJCCjiUbrisyCs6J3
Which camera app has the best picture quality, front and back HDR mode?
Coconut tree said:
Which camera app has the best picture quality, front and back HDR mode?
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MGC_6.1.013_MI8_FINAL_V1c.apk ,
Pros: based on Gcam 6.1 of Pixel 3 XL. Work fine both cameras and you can change blur effect after shot in Gphoto. A lot of setting, like saturation etc.
Cons: Its a bit laggy on menu if take many shots. File its heavy (85+Mb). HDR must be on always. Had many setting and you need to know what are you doing.
MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
Pros: Work fine both cameras. Based on gcam Pixel 2. Ligh interface and very good shots
Cons: take a little bit to take the shot. Just 1 beauty mode with from Cam.
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V6.apk
Pros: fast and efficient. Everything work nice. No need additional setting.
Cons: Lack of additional configuration and (for my taste) had washed colors and a little bit more noise on dark situations than another 2 upper.
Right now I am using MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
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MGC_6.1.013_MI8_FINAL_V1c.apk ,
Pros: based on Gcam 6.1 of Pixel 3 XL. Work fine both cameras and you can change blur effect after shot in Gphoto. A lot of setting, like saturation etc.
Cons: Its a bit laggy on menu if take many shots. File its heavy (85+Mb). HDR must be on always. Had many setting and you need to know what are you doing.
MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
Pros: Work fine both cameras. Based on gcam Pixel 2. Ligh interface and very good shots
Cons: take a little bit to take the shot. Just 1 beauty mode with from Cam.
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V6.apk
Pros: fast and efficient. Everything work nice. No need additional setting.
Cons: Lack of additional configuration and (for my taste) had washed colors and a little bit more noise on dark situations than another 2 upper.
Right now I am using MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
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Thank you very much ?
kukuteku said:
MGC_6.1.013_MI8_FINAL_V1c.apk ,
Pros: based on Gcam 6.1 of Pixel 3 XL. Work fine both cameras and you can change blur effect after shot in Gphoto. A lot of setting, like saturation etc.
Cons: Its a bit laggy on menu if take many shots. File its heavy (85+Mb). HDR must be on always. Had many setting and you need to know what are you doing.
MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
Pros: Work fine both cameras. Based on gcam Pixel 2. Ligh interface and very good shots
Cons: take a little bit to take the shot. Just 1 beauty mode with from Cam.
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V6.apk
Pros: fast and efficient. Everything work nice. No need additional setting.
Cons: Lack of additional configuration and (for my taste) had washed colors and a little bit more noise on dark situations than another 2 upper.
Right now I am using MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
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Hi man, can you help me? With all gcam tried all photos with anterior camera are always so dark and green, impossible to use. Is there a fix or something? Thanks
denzel09 said:
Hi man, can you help me? With all gcam tried all photos with anterior camera are always so dark and green, impossible to use. Is there a fix or something? Thanks
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MGC_5.2.022_AllAutoCORR_2.apk
Setting--fix-- Black Level= 16 (ON)
that fix Green image on portriet mode
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V6.apk
Its not necessary, By defaul setting works nice, not green Image with front Camera