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Note Edge vs. Note 4, in retrospect

I got the Note 4 from two carriers when it released, knowing that I will want the Edge as my daily driver. The design is just too cool. Now that I have used several Note 4s and Note Edges for some time, I'm not so sure anymore.
Yes, the Edge design is interesting, it's a conversation piece. It gives the phone [yet] another leg up on those iOS fanboys. It does add the utility of shortcuts and information tickers. At the same time, I'm giving up on screen size and the use of any "edge action" (apps that can be triggered by touching the edge, not to be confused by the Note Edge). Apps such as PIE Control, APPSI, Smart Task Launcher, and Dock4Droid are all very useful for various purposes.
The Note Edge's screen is about 3/16" shorter than the Note 4 (and Note 3), and because of the Edge bar, its total useful screen width is also reduced. Especially when considering the native screen resolution, the seemingly small screen size differential makes a big difference, and again, when you consider the lost of "full right edge" use on the Note Edge.
I know that at the end of the day, it's what I want, how I use the device, how I customize, and what pleases me. I am simply sharing my thoughts.
At this point, I am on the fence whether I want to use the Note Edge or Note 4 as a daily driver....

Yes, you are 100% correct.... The edge screen is nothing more than a glorified side launcher, like PIE controls or even Toolbox on the S5. That being said, it does ADD functions that can not be had with any side launcher. Tickers, notifications, multiple layers of sort cuts such as touch to call contacts etc. As it has been said many times, this is a brand new concept and a niche device, development with be slower than for the Note and S series. Yes, the Edge is a side launcher, a freakin bad ass side launcher. Just wait a minute and you'll see things pick up.

I have another perspective to consider...
My Note 4 is white and my Note Edge is black... (Since T-Mobile/Samsung decided not to sell the white version)
I always buy white Note's... at some point I got a Black Note 3 but I quickly replaced the back door from black to white. The Black Note 3 with a white back door looked awesome. But in this case, with the Edge, I cannot even replace the back door to white because there is non on Ebay.... None on Amazon, and none anywhere... I also ALWAYS buy a Qi wireless receiver from Ebay.... this time... NO Qi wireless receiver for the Note Edge anywhere...
I ended up ordering a White Original Qi Wireless Back Door... At least I will have the white back door plus the Qi... but... IT WILL BE A FAT NOTE EDGE... lol and NO case will fit afterwards...
That's my dilemma...

Having just updated my Exynos Edge I prefer it to my Snapdragon Note 4. To be fair my Note 4 uses Knox so perhaps that has an effect on its speed. The Edge of the Note Edge adds to the business productivity features and therefore it is my preferred device

Hey there guys, I recognize a few names here primarily from the T-mobile Note 3 forums, where I'm still spending most of my xda time. I can't say that I'm particularly surprised to find posts such as this one here. I've described the Edge as a "device that I wanted to want", seeing a TON of potential, particularly with regard to productivity/mutli-tasking, in a new, cool-looking form factor. However, (shockingly) Samsung's implementation of the Edge bar made it kind of strange and gimmicky, so it was crossed off my wish-list.
Well, I'm paying you all a visit to bring over some excellent news which is currently rocking a couple of threads in the T-mobile Note 3 forums: @dwitherell, the creator of Tweaked ROM, officially stated that he has chosen the Note Edge as his next phone (i.e. to become home of Tweaked), and has already ordered one For those unfamiliar with it, Tweaked is an excellent TW based ROM with many very strong supporters. Many self-professed "flashaholics" put down the... flashahol upon discovering Tweaked and now strictly update. Additionally, Dwitherell is an extremely talented developer whose creations are always a pleasure to use and packed with very useful and creative features. He's also a really great, friendly, helpful guy! The need for xposed modules is far reduced when running Tweaked, because so many mods that can usually be accomplished by use of a module are baked right into the ROM. Last, as a side benefit, the Tweaked threads always have a very strong "community vibe" going on. It's always nice when your device has a nice active forum, with many friendly, helpful folks.... Expect to see many fitting that description migrating over to this forum in the near future
I actually received an extremely impressive list of devs who have also decided to continue their work on the Note Edge from a reliable source. I'm not exactly sure who has personally "revealed" that they've chosen the Edge as their next device and either already bought, or are definitely buying one, so I don't really want to mention anyone else, but there were 5 or 6 very talented people, and the person who sent me the list described it as "confirmed".
Anyway, my previous perception was that the Note Edge would be a great device if only it would be "fixed". It hit me as a "pleasant surprise" that that pretty much seems to be the plan! I personally was thinking that I'd pick up a Note 4, pretty much because, "Meh, there'll be nothing better until I can upgrade again." (Old version of the T-Mobile JUMP program). However, the Edge is now looking MUCH more appealing, Actually I feel like the prospect of "Tweaked Edge" is quite a bit more exciting than "Tweaked Note 4".
So hopefully that gives disappointed Edge owners something to look forward to. The Note Edge is about to blow up in popularity/desirability (at least among xda members). I definitely plan to get one myself in the near future. Any Tweaked fans should definitely check out the main Tweaked thread as well as the one in General, for a bit of entertainment if nothing else. Guess I'll catch you all again soon :good:

I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting

TigerDNA said:
I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting
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With this line of argument you'll never get a phone Look at the positive side: the more "Edge" devices are out the more attention the "Edge" themes will get!

TigerDNA said:
I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting
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S6 won't have the S-Pen. For those who find the pen and larger display useful, the Note is the way to go. I have been riding on the Note cycle rather than the S cycle. The next S would come, then the next Note would follow with everything the S has + the pen and larger screen....

I know but i really did like the size of my S5. I had the Note 2, then the S5... The smaller screen was almost perfect for personally but i did miss the pen
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TigerDNA said:
I know but i really did like the size of my S5. I had the Note 2, then the S5... The smaller screen was almost perfect for personally but i did miss the pen
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Technology wise the Note is Samsung's high end device so the S6 may have different cosmetics but i expect it won't be a step forward on specs.

jazzmachine said:
Hey there guys, I recognize a few names here primarily from the T-mobile Note 3 forums, where I'm still spending most of my xda time. I can't say that I'm particularly surprised to find posts such as this one here. I've described the Edge as a "device that I wanted to want", seeing a TON of potential, particularly with regard to productivity/mutli-tasking, in a new, cool-looking form factor. However, (shockingly) Samsung's implementation of the Edge bar made it kind of strange and gimmicky, so it was crossed off my wish-list.
Well, I'm paying you all a visit to bring over some excellent news which is currently rocking a couple of threads in the T-mobile Note 3 forums: @dwitherell, the creator of Tweaked ROM, officially stated that he has chosen the Note Edge as his next phone (i.e. to become home of Tweaked), and has already ordered one For those unfamiliar with it, Tweaked is an excellent TW based ROM with many very strong supporters. Many self-professed "flashaholics" put down the... flashahol upon discovering Tweaked and now strictly update. Additionally, Dwitherell is an extremely talented developer whose creations are always a pleasure to use and packed with very useful and creative features. He's also a really great, friendly, helpful guy! The need for xposed modules is far reduced when running Tweaked, because so many mods that can usually be accomplished by use of a module are baked right into the ROM. Last, as a side benefit, the Tweaked threads always have a very strong "community vibe" going on. It's always nice when your device has a nice active forum, with many friendly, helpful folks.... Expect to see many fitting that description migrating over to this forum in the near future
I actually received an extremely impressive list of devs who have also decided to continue their work on the Note Edge from a reliable source. I'm not exactly sure who has personally "revealed" that they've chosen the Edge as their next device and either already bought, or are definitely buying one, so I don't really want to mention anyone else, but there were 5 or 6 very talented people, and the person who sent me the list described it as "confirmed".
Anyway, my previous perception was that the Note Edge would be a great device if only it would be "fixed". It hit me as a "pleasant surprise" that that pretty much seems to be the plan! I personally was thinking that I'd pick up a Note 4, pretty much because, "Meh, there'll be nothing better until I can upgrade again." (Old version of the T-Mobile JUMP program). However, the Edge is now looking MUCH more appealing, Actually I feel like the prospect of "Tweaked Edge" is quite a bit more exciting than "Tweaked Note 4".
So hopefully that gives disappointed Edge owners something to look forward to. The Note Edge is about to blow up in popularity/desirability (at least among xda members). I definitely plan to get one myself in the near future. Any Tweaked fans should definitely check out the main Tweaked thread as well as the one in General, for a bit of entertainment if nothing else. Guess I'll catch you all again soon :good:
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Well said brother,in tweaked

deeznutz1977 said:
Well said brother,in tweaked
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Hey, there's one of those familiar names, good to see ya over here buddy! Pretty surprising/intriguing decision made by D (et al.) to upgrade to the Edge, eh?
I'm thinking that Tweaked probably won't be the first solid ROM available, as D tends to take a bit longer perfecting his releases. I can't wait to see what he comes up with though!
Man, I was "for sure" going to get a Note 4 actually the same day that I learned about all the devs who had decided continue their work on the Edge. I had a solid plan to go over to the store right when a shipment came in so that I could compare a few devices to be sure that I walked out with one lacking any unacceptable screen flaws, but then I bailed at the last second... can't tell you how glad I was to have not traded in my N3 running Tweaked 3.95 yet!
Anyway, great to see ya! Hope you enjoy the Edge as is until its full potential is unlocked :good:

S6 User Reviews and Opinions

If you have an S6, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
If you have an S6 Edge, please report in this thread instead:
Post your personal S6E reviews

10 days until I get my s6. Cannot wait!!

Mine comes in today, will return with review and god bless T-Mobile for being so freaking awesome and sending out pre orders early as hell!!

My write up. Think I posted it before you made this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089

I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.

Rooting and the possible loss of Samsung Pay!
PrOpANe84 said:
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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So after you rooted the device, I assume you ticked the Knox.
Is it still possible to use the Samsung Pay feature?
Forgive me for asking, but with the slimmed down TW,
what are the perks of rooting except full backups, titanium backup, custom roms and Xposed yet doesn't work on Samsung lollipop?
If you would answer, that would be much appreciated! I bought the device but sue to the easter holidays in Denmark, I will get it late next week! I would gladly leave my impressions , but for now, if you could help me with the possible Samsung Pay root issue, that would be great!

I'll keep the S5
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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They won't see fit. This thing will sell like hot cakes.
They found that less than one per cent actually use the battery swapping or expandable memory.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:

latino147 said:
Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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That's a good point. My Spigen tough armor case hides most everything except the screen. What kind of case will protect the Edge model? I'm kind of a butter fingers and I won't carry an expensive phone in my pocket without a good protective case.

I'm still thinking if I should buy a case or not. From my experience, I've never needed one, seen from how long my iPhone 4 lasted. During the time I had it I went out almost every day, most of those days to drink in a bar or at a club, and despite dropping it quite a few times, those particular drops didn't break the glass. The metal sides got dented but that was about it. It's probably because most of the places I go through have smooth floors / carpets and the only times I slapped on a case was when I went hiking or something "adventurous". My iPhone 4 finally died though when my drunk friend grabbed it from me and ran towards the stairs of the club we were at. He stretched out his hand to prevent me from taking it from me and successfully dropped it 3 floors down. Good thing it was almost 4am and the crowd was thinning out so it didn't land on anybody's head (and based on how the iPhone 4 was the first "cement block" phone, that was a huge relief).
My iPhone 4 lived that long despite all it experienced so I'm sure that the S6 Edge, with it's reviews and drop tests will come out of the same experiences more unscathed compared to my iPhone 4.
That being said, I have still been researching on cases and so far I'll either buy a Speck or Ringke case.
... I can't even begin to share how excited I am to get my S6 Edge though. I never thought a Samsung phone would ever catch my eye (which was surprising since I find their TVs / monitors sexy as hell) but I'm sure glad that changed. The last time I got this excited for a phone was when the iPhone 4 was launched.

PrOpANe84 said:
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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Since you have root, could you try installing something like v4a and let us know how it works please? Does it bug out? Im big on audio (which is why I got the M7, for its awesome audio mods) and really hoping to jump back on the Samsung ship with the S6.
After using an S4 before my M7, I'm a little cautious about Samsung though. Unlike HTC or Moto (Personal experience), their devices usually dont make it the long term, both in terms of hardware and software, so Im hoping Sammy fixed all these with the S6. Will definitely miss the Boomsound speakers, but the M9 seriously disappointed me this time

latino147 said:
Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
latino147 said:
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!

xocomaox said:
So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.

latino147 said:
i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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Yes, I am agreeing with you about buying for looks and what manufacturers cater to. But I am posting this in a review thread on a site filled with people who use their phones as they were made to be used. I think they will see what Samsung is obviously doing and be turned off by that. Maybe not, though. Marketing and public opinion is very powerful and even the sharpest sometimes fall into those traps.
What's even better about their tactics is that they offer a larger internal memory at the utmost premium price, like Apple does. This is just a terrific business practice, as you want to make a product that is marketable and easily replaced, as well as forcing people into higher price bracket. I do not blame Samsung for trying to turn a profit, I just am disappointed with their product which is not aimed at the vertical I am in.

3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Considering they made this drastic change due to a massive drop in sales..I'd say your opinion is wrong =)
And I know we all hate apple..but don't be silly. Of course their ideas work. You don't become the most profitable company in the world because you're making bad choices lol

Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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dondavis007 said:
Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Yeah, I really envy the smoothness, WP is equally smooth

V4A installed without issue. Never needed with this, I'm interested to try it out and see what it can do
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Yeah I'm sure I ticked Knox, but root and the benefits that come with it are way more important to me than Samsung pay. We'll see what happens once they release it...
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If the sales are good for the s6 this year , removable battery and SD card slots will go away for good.

If you're thinking about the S6 Edge...

I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.

krabman said:
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Thanks for the write up. I've been curious about this phone. I too think I am too used to the battery. My only two complaints about the Turbo is the wifi and the camera. I don't think they are big enough to go back to TW though.

Thank you for your feedback, I personally don't envy anything on s6, specs wise, but i like the glass back, like you said, there are for different kind of audience.

Tldr;
I have both the Turbo and and S6 Edge. They are very different phones.
It is silly comparing them, as it is very subjective and depends on your individual needs...
Turbo has much better battery.
The S6 has a better screen (by far), better camera, and is definitely faster. But has TW and MUCH shorter battery life.
No right / wrong answer.

So here's why I'm going with the s6 over the turbo. And it might sound silly but the ecosystem is one of my top reasons. If I want a, let's say case for my turbo. You will find a few. Most from cheap company's and it might be some what attractive. If you want it for the s6. Skys the limit. Walk in to best buy and have a whole section of the store just for the s6. I don't even think you could find something for the turbo at best buy. There are other reasons of course but this is one no one addresses.
And honestly. The build quality of the turbo is not that good. The cheap painted plastic around the rim. The loss power and volume buttons. The moto symbol that is just held in by some weak adhesive. The creaking back cover. I WANTED to love that phone. I just couldn't =(

I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.

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I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.
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Id you buy Verizon version no, and you never have a aosp rom in exynos device, be aware of that.

No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.

always same, no change, samsung no change

Pika71 said:
always same, no change, samsung no change
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Parroting.
Even I recognize the changes and I dislike Samsung.

krabman said:
No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp

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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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CM isn't the only game out there. Don't get confused with CM vs. AOSP.

I don't get the hype for S6 or S6 Edge with the internet people when some of my customers brought their 3-4 days old s6 edge to trade with Droid Turbo just because of its good battery life and high end specs. We don't actually need to use cases for the Droid Turbo as we need it for any samsung or htc flagship. Our phones are for everyday usage, not made to put gently on the table.
ps : any phone with its manufacturer software will run miles better than any Cyanogenmod release official and unofficial.

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I haven't been on Exynos since an S4 I imported in from South America to give an octa core a try. No question the Snapdragon variants of the S4 had an easier row to hoe and we on the Exynos saw much less development although more than the average phone. I did not say it will, I said "it may" and you could be right. It isn't really meaningful to this conversation but I doubt I would install an AOSP rom if it were available. I always had far better luck with stock based roms on the Galaxy devices. Faster, more stable, less bugs, etc.

krabman said:
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.

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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.
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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.

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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.
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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.

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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.
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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
http://androidforums.com/threads/nexus-9-bugs-app-compatibility-issues-discussion.879365/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/2mmz66/question_gta_vice_city_and_lollipop/
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were mentioned in the second.

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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were
mentioned in the second.
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No vice city does work for me but San Andrea's doesn't and many reviews on either the s6 or n9 state that app compatibility is ok but a few won't work because of different processors. Most app developers develop for snapdragon cpus as exynos has only reached certain areas and is not the default cpu in the galaxy line.. You can search reviews and many users experience this problem.

I feel like we will never agree on this, but I will drop this off here for your perusal:
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=youtube exynos san andreas

Better than a Note 4?

I love my AT&T Note 4...it's a great thing! It is! But root is *still* not possible. I know people are working feverishly at it and I don't necessarily think it won't happen but I really miss it. Sure, I am one of those rare dudes that use the stylus multiple times a day, as well as all the multitasking/splitscreen stuff, but I can't run some apps that I used to rely on heavily when I took the leap of faith to the Note. One MAJOR thing that bugs the every loving piss out of me is the fact that I can't flash a custom ROM! I know temporary root has been achieved but, from what I understand, that's not good enough to flash a custom recovery and ROM, AND I can't use my root apps like SSHTunnel.
Anyway...blah blah...Seeing this phone makes me want to toss the Note 4 on eBay. Yes, the screen is lame but the CPU is epic and it's much more open.
I might be down to let the 4 go but there are a few hangups: That invite system. How the HELL am I supposed to get an invite? Another hangup is that screen...it's "only" 1080p...how does it look? Is it a good piece of hardware? I'm sure I'll miss the 4's screen but if the 1080 screen looks good overall, I might be able to deal due to the hackability and the CPU.
Overall, I'm just looking for some feedback and overall impressions of the phone when it becomes more widely available. Think it's a worthy upgrade from the Note 4?

I had used Samsung Galaxy Phones starting from the S2 > S3 > Note 2 > Note 3 and then moved to the Oneplus One.
Here are the key differences :
1. If you have a taste for the saturation of the AMOLED display, you will miss it. The Deep Blacks are spectacular on the Samsung Flagships (Ive seen the note 4 too) However i was pleasently surprised by the Clarity of the Oneplus One. The pentile matrix of the AMOLED displays on the galaxy range does leave room for more clarity and the Oneplus Display though not as saturated was as bright and it was more crisp/clear. Today after 8 months of using the OPO i will not go back to an AMOLED unless they do away with the Pentile matrix (I am yet to sample a QHD AMOLED display though)
2. OPO ran CM 11/12 vs Touchiwiz /custom roms on The Note 3. Although i liked some features of Touchwiz , the overall look was not to my taste. Custom Roms though available come with thier own bugs. Having used the OPO and also having liked CM early on i was happy for the native support. I am a tinkerer, run a lot of root apps, Hence i loved the OPO where i dont lose my warranty on rooting/unlocking. Also CM/Oxygen are far less bloated than other ROMs hence I enjoyed snappier performance and better battery life compared to the Note 3.
3. I did like the oneplus one in terms of its looks but the note 4 looked better. i chose the oneplus because i could just trade my one year old Note 3 and get the OPO at no extra cost. the OP2 looks better, has a metal frame and better styleswap covers. I personally really liked the sandstone black back though, but that is a matter of taste. At less than half Price of the Note 4 the OPO was a steal.
4. The OP2 has 4gb of DDR4 Ram, so i expect better performance than anything else out there. I however do not game much, or use too many apps simultaneously so i dont forsee a heating issue for me using the SD810.
5. The Note 4 Camera is most likely better than the OP2. But this is just speculation at this point.
To sum up : The OP2 is newer hardware, root friendly, bloat free, will likely have good developer support. It does lack MicroSD expansion, NFC,quick charge. If you want to experiment with a new device offering near pure android, at a very reasonable price - i would vote for the OP2.

rmp5s said:
I love my AT&T Note 4...it's a great thing! It is! But root is *still* not possible.
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This is not the fault of Samsung or your Note 4, but your carrier. Get a phone through Verizon or AT&T and be prepared to be punished with a locked bootloader.

Im also in a fix.Im also using Note 4 sd variant but I haven't rooted it due to knox crap.Confused coz i love the Note 4 screen but I see full hd screen with sd810 as an advantage.
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jack_frost said:
To sum up : The OP2 is newer hardware, root friendly, bloat free, will likely have good developer support. It does lack MicroSD expansion, NFC,quick charge. If you want to experiment with a new device offering near pure android, at a very reasonable price - i would vote for the OP2.
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Awesome reply. Thanks for the feedback!
I'm still a bit on the fence about it...good to hear the screen is good, though. That's one thing I am COMPLETELY spoiled with...the Note 4's screen is simply unparalleled.
There is nothing about the Note 4 that I hate and I'd truly miss the SmartPen...I'm one of the few that actually use the thing every day. I also love the multitasking functionality and use it all the time.
But, the "don't listen too loud" nanny every time I plug headphones in, the "how to clear app defaults" every damn time I set one, the COMPLETELY random battery life (some days, after my 12hr shift, it'll be at 40-45%...other days it'll be at 5%...you never know...) and, obviously, the lack of root and the EPIC OP2 amongst other things all add up to me considering making the switch. The fact that the Note 4 goes for 400-450 on eBay doesn't hurt things, either. My Note 4 is pristine. I even have all the original box/papers/etc that it came with.
I'm going to think about it for a little while and we'll see. Right now I'm thinking I'm going to do it.
Oh...and...how does one go about getting a OP2 invite?

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This is not the fault of Samsung or your Note 4, but your carrier. Get a phone through Verizon or AT&T and be prepared to be punished with a locked bootloader.
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Sprint version had root almost a year ago . It's a shame they do that in 2015 but when your at the top at&t and verizon you can do whatever you want. Highly doubt it get root at this point most people probably got another device. Hope im wrong tho

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Oh...and...how does one go about getting a OP2 invite?
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I'm not begging or entering any stupid contests to get a 1+2 invite. I'm the customer and OnePlus wants my business, not the other way around. If an invite doesn't fall in my lap, I'll get something else from a company ready to do business with me.

Agreed. I definitely don't like the business model. I'm not JUST holding out of a OP2...I'm VERY intrigued by the upcoming Nexus...I adored my Nexus 4. Had that thing for a long ass time. The OP2 is very Nexus-ish...I just don't get why they don't just sell the stupid things...why be difficult about it?

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I love my AT&T Note 4...it's a great thing! It is! But root is *still* not possible. I know people are working feverishly at it and I don't necessarily think it won't happen but I really miss it. Sure, I am one of those rare dudes that use the stylus multiple times a day, as well as all the multitasking/splitscreen stuff, but I can't run some apps that I used to rely on heavily when I took the leap of faith to the Note. One MAJOR thing that bugs the every loving piss out of me is the fact that I can't flash a custom ROM! I know temporary root has been achieved but, from what I understand, that's not good enough to flash a custom recovery and ROM, AND I can't use my root apps like SSHTunnel.
Anyway...blah blah...Seeing this phone makes me want to toss the Note 4 on eBay. Yes, the screen is lame but the CPU is epic and it's much more open.
I might be down to let the 4 go but there are a few hangups: That invite system. How the HELL am I supposed to get an invite? Another hangup is that screen...it's "only" 1080p...how does it look? Is it a good piece of hardware? I'm sure I'll miss the 4's screen but if the 1080 screen looks good overall, I might be able to deal due to the hackability and the CPU.
Overall, I'm just looking for some feedback and overall impressions of the phone when it becomes more widely available. Think it's a worthy upgrade from the Note 4?
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the best phone is the one with the best final user experience which is much more about software than hardware. hence your question is almost answered LOL, a phone which is either impossible or difficult to root and unlock is never ever better than a perfectly set up phone rom, kernel. launcher and root app wise. having said that the only remaining criteria are: display size to footprint ratio, weight, design ( should not be ugly ) and basic specs like camera memory cpu ram and battery life. those depend of course on personal preference as well as personal usage patterns.
so if you do not need 128GB or more memory and if you do not need the pen under all circustance etc. etc. the OP2 is far better because it's customizable to the edge and the hardware specs are in parts better, in parts equal and in parts not available, so what counts is what are your priorities.

Op if you rely on the stylus pen like me, as I do a lot of typing. Then just stay with the n4. The n5 is also around the corner and am sure it will blow away the oneplus no doubt.

Applsung note 5 - no thank you
I know the Oneplus 2 has not removable battery or sd support but it's going to be at least half the price possibly more looking at pricing of s6 etc
64gb is just about enough for my needs and my note 4 stylus is a redundant piece for myself of course

Wow the ATT Note 4 still doesn't have official root yet, almost one year later ? WTF F. you ATT and Scamsung for allowing ATT to control you like that.
Just on principle alone, I'd ditch that Note 4 and pick up the OnePlus Two and the freedom to do what you want with your phone. Plus Oxygen OS will be way lighter and smoother than the god awful Windows 95 inspired Touchwizz.

Was just offered a S7 Edge for my 6P...... Conflicted on what to do?!!?

I love my 6P.... Love the updates and all the custom ROMs, love the front facing speakers too.....But have wanted an "Edge" ever since they were first released.
Today, while at work, someone seen my 6P and asked me a few questions and then said he had a 1 month old 32gb S7 edge he'd trade me straight across for my 6P??? I told him I'd have to think it over and let him know later..... So, what's everyone think?
Reasons I'd keep the 6P
* Custom ROMs galore!! One of the best supported phones are NEXUS phones
* Future proof for updates for several years
* Front facing speakers
>>> I'm a HUGE music lover and check out music equipment (I'm a guitar player) on YouTube quite often
>>> On those days when you just want to lay in bed, the front speakers are great for watching NetFlix without having to cup your hand around the bottom of the phone just to hear it
* I already gave away most of my micro-USB cables and replaced them with USB-C cables - EVERYWHERE
Reasons I'd switch (are the same reasons I love it):
* Custom ROMs -
>>> I get too tied up in the whole custom ROM thing and sometimes spend several hours a day flashing custom ROMs.
>>> I am checking XDA 2-6 times per hour for updates or new ROMs, to the point it affects my work some days (when new ROMs come out while I'm at work). I've tried to control it and block XDA, but I am really addicted to it and have thought about going back to a flip phone sometimes just to free up several hours a day and keep me working when I'm supposed to be.
* Front facing speakers -
>>> Lets face it, the speakers aren't that great (compared to the HTC stereo speakers). Sitting on my desk, 3 feet away I really can't hear any stereo separation and might as well have a single speaker
>>> They really don't sound as good as many single speaker phones
* I wouldn't mind having a smaller, lighter phone....I've got tendinitis from years of playing guitar and the heavy phone sometimes hurts to use for long periods... But after a case it'll be about the same.

Take it. If you like it, ok, if not, you can sell it for more than a brand new 64gb 6p. You can come home for free.

personally I would keep my 6p. The Edge is kind of gimmicky. the 6p is pure Android it's what I love about it. I love the larger screen, it's kinda hard to go back to a smaller screen after the 6p. can't stand the Samsung bloatware and the delay updates. I love everything about the 6p the only thing I don't like is the button positioning. I keep accidentally hitting the volume button.

Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
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She said an iPhone

I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Toss a coin: Head's it's a Nexus6p or Tails it's a Nexus6p!
It's a win-win...

novanosis85 said:
I just traded my S7 for the 6P. Can't beat the buttery smoothness and customizations. Believe me, S7 is still laggy even with the reviews praising the touch wiz. I took a downgrade in the camera department, S7 really does have an awesome camera. But the itch to have pure Android and butter smoothness wins hands down.
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Yeah, after reading so many reviews... The S7 does seem like the clear winner, but I'm not sure I can live with the crappy single speaker?? And most say the speed/smoothness is better on the 6P, but it's just apples vs oranges on most of it.
I really wouldn't use Touchwiz, I'd use Nova launcher, but I guess I'd sill have the Touchwiz menu's and pull-down.
I know some say "get the S7 and sell it", but I only have one phone and can't really do that.. So I'd be stuck with it unless I got another local deal.

I had an s7 edge for about 2 weeks before I got the 6p. The edge was nice, however I prefer the 6p. Stock android is better than touchwiz. Has the edge been rooted yet? It had not been when I had it. I did not like not being able to block ads in chrome. I returned mine to AT&T and lost out on getting a free TV with it. I also lost out on a $150 bill credit because I returned it. I don't regret it. Keep the 6p!

You're gonna miss the speakers and the stock Android experience.

The edge is dumb. Its gimicky and has almost no useful use. I had the Galaxy S6 edge.
And most of all the edge is hard as FU*K to hold.

I had a choice of buying either the S7 Edge or Nexus 6P just a couple of weeks ago, one of the main reasons for getting the 6P over the S7 Edge was updates, Android N will be out end of Summer the S7 Edge will not see it until sometime early next year.

MrMarques01 said:
Lol, what a thread. Why don't you ask your beauty therapist?
Seriously, it's your decision, why even spam the forum with your indecision? There are enough comparisons between the two phones, just do a bit of googling
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no offence meant, xda is for helping each other out, if you can't add anything important, then please dont post replies. there are many users back here who are ready to help the op out.

This is my first Nexus device. I love the smoothness and appreciate the fast updates. I don't think you can go wrong with either phone, more so if you change phones often. But if I were asked I would say hands down stay with the Nexus. These days I have learnt to appreciate the faster updates, especially the security updates. Samsung is notoriously slow with the updates. And you're on AT&T too? Updates are a foreign word to you (trust me, I had the AT&T Note5). But it comes down to what your priorities are.

I gave up on Sammy after my MDK S4 (the last of the unlockable Galaxies). Screw that Knox BS.

I was also thinking about selling my 6P for the edge, but I'm on Verizon and who knows when I would see android N there. Furthermore, my phone would be locked down to VZW and I don't like that, their bloatware, etc. The only thing that the S7 edge has on its side is a better camera, better battery life (maybe), and gaming performance (I don't play hardcore games), better screen (but smaller), nicer build quality (maybe?). After that, it goes downhill fast. Only 32GB? And you can only use 20GB of internal because of the TouchWiz hog. You can add a SD card, but can't transfer bloatware apps. I think I'm juts going to keep my 6P 128GB and wait for android N.

I came from the s7 edge to nexus 6p and i love this damn phone i will never get a samsung phone again and as for memory got the 128 one.

Personally, I would go for the S7 Edge. I've had both phones and while the 6P is smoother (not faster), the S7 Edge just offers more overall. Better build quality, better camera (imo), wireless charging built in, water resistance and much more software features built in without having to root or install a bunch of extra apps.
Sure you won't get software updates nearly as fast, but I'm starting to realize that those are somewhat overrated after having both. The couple 6P updates while I had that phone did more harm than good. I lost LTE frequently on AT&T which was a known issue with those couple of updates. With the super fast updates, we are almost like beta testers for Google.
While that's fun and exciting for a while, I'm at a point in my life and career where I need a stable phone with thoroughly tested software. As crazy as that sounds with all the complaints I've made about slow updates on AT&T in the past lol.
Another tidbit is that I've already received 3 software updates on my AT&T S7 Edge since I've had it. They have definitely gotten better about it so far. With Google now offering incentives to carriers, I hope the trend continues!
But at the end of the day the choice is yours. Like someone else said before, make the trade and then sell the S7 Edge for more than you can get another 6P for if you are unsure. And if having a transition device is an issue, just grab a cheap under $50 phone from Craigslist or something. I always have a cheap BLU phone on deck for transitions lol.
Good luck!

I actually have both and yes the 6p is a little smoother but the battery on my s7 edge lasts quite a bit longer. I go back to my 6p just for a day or so and use the edge for weeks at a time. I cant seem to make myself use the 6p for more then a day. The screen and the camera are unreal. also the 6p shows massive amounts of finger prints and the edge does not

Biggest reason never to buy Samdung is KNOX.
Nuff said.