[HANDS-ON] T-Mobile G4 - G4 General

Let me know if you have any questions on it. I'll have some accessory reviews etc in the next few days!
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How are the preinstalled widgets? LG seemed to hype up its calendar.
How much can you customize the nav buttons? I remember the G3 having different button visual styles in addition to being able to rearrange the buttons.
How much other customization can you do? Things like the app drawer, themes, etc.
Digging around in settings what can you find that LG isn't pushing as hard??
Do you have a comprehensive list of all the preinstalled apps, from LG, T-Mobile, and others?

xetaray said:
How are the preinstalled widgets? LG seemed to hype up its calendar.
How much can you customize the nav buttons? I remember the G3 having different button visual styles in addition to being able to rearrange the buttons.
How much other customization can you do? Things like the app drawer, themes, etc.
Digging around in settings what can you find that LG isn't pushing as hard??
Do you have a comprehensive list of all the preinstalled apps, from LG, T-Mobile, and others?
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Almost all these questions are answered in the video

on your list ...
First, is this pre-production sample shipping with a locked bootloader? (T Mob was the only US variant unlocked with the G3)
Second, what is useable as a screen protector?

WinDroidGuy said:
Almost all these questions are answered in the video
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But I chose those questions only after watching the video. You mentioned most of those, but I was asking for more detail on them than was provided in the video.

I'd love to see it side by side to a G2. I love the size of the G2. A coworker had a G3 and I don't know about 1 handed use. Another coworker has a S5. Either would work. I am trying to get a rough visual.

How does the leather feel? I know it's real leather, but is it a stiffer or softer leather?
I thought the G4 doesn't have wireless built-in since you have to buy a separate case to use it. (or even a receiver you can plop on top of the battery, which is how I can use wireless charging on my Samsung Galaxy S3. Though, no idea, if the G4 will have that option.) Everywhere that I've seen specs for it say that it doesn't come with that out of the box.
How is the user experience? I remember trying out the G3 and I didn't like how the experience was. It seemed cluttered to me, which isn't say much since Samsung's Touchwiz can be the same way, but I thought it was fine on the S3, compared to the S4 and S5, which I didn't like it as much. Did LG improve on their UI from the G3 to G4?
What are your thoughts on the camera? I know LG hyped that camera SOO much, so I need to see some real-world pics and such. On paper, it sounds great, but curious how it actually performs.

player911 said:
I'd love to see it side by side to a G2. I love the size of the G2. A coworker had a G3 and I don't know about 1 handed use. Another coworker has a S5. Either would work. I am trying to get a rough visual.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/pictures-three-generations-lg-flagships
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FluxionFluff said:
I thought the G4 doesn't have wireless built-in since you have to buy a separate case to use it. (or even a receiver you can plop on top of the battery, which is how I can use wireless charging on my Samsung Galaxy S3. Though, no idea, if the G4 will have that option.) Everywhere that I've seen specs for it say that it doesn't come with that out of the box.
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If the G3 being able to add wireless charging with the quickwindow case meant it had the pins that allowed a wireless charging sticker to be added underneath the plastic back, I'm guessing the fact that the G4 has a quickwindow case with wireless charging means it's only a matter of time before someone makes a wireless charging sticker for the G4.

Jhn1 said:
First, is this pre-production sample shipping with a locked bootloader? (T Mob was the only US variant unlocked with the G3)
Second, what is useable as a screen protector?
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The screen protector came installed & I didn't remove it. Waiting for glass, but not sure it will work with the curved screen!
xetaray said:
But I chose those questions only after watching the video. You mentioned most of those, but I was asking for more detail on them than was provided in the video.
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LG World has tons of free themes, fonts etc. You can still change the soft keys like the G3, also has the option for white or black background.
I can get you a list of the apps, if you pause the video on that part you can see them all. It's 9 T-Mobile apps, plus most Google apps and that's it.
player911 said:
I'd love to see it side by side to a G2. I love the size of the G2. A coworker had a G3 and I don't know about 1 handed use. Another coworker has a S5. Either would work. I am trying to get a rough visual.
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I don't have a G2 or G3 anymore, I'll try to get some pictures with the S5...in the video I compare it to 4 or 5 devices as well.
FluxionFluff said:
How does the leather feel? I know it's real leather, but is it a stiffer or softer leather?
I thought the G4 doesn't have wireless built-in since you have to buy a separate case to use it. (or even a receiver you can plop on top of the battery, which is how I can use wireless charging on my Samsung Galaxy S3. Though, no idea, if the G4 will have that option.) Everywhere that I've seen specs for it say that it doesn't come with that out of the box.
How is the user experience? I remember trying out the G3 and I didn't like how the experience was. It seemed cluttered to me, which isn't say much since Samsung's Touchwiz can be the same way, but I thought it was fine on the S3, compared to the S4 and S5, which I didn't like it as much. Did LG improve on their UI from the G3 to G4?
What are your thoughts on the camera? I know LG hyped that camera SOO much, so I need to see some real-world pics and such. On paper, it sounds great, but curious how it actually performs.
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I don't personally much like the leather, it's not hard or soft; can't really explain it. It feels nice, just not my cup of tea. I might check out the black leather back. But I did like the grayish one with diamond pattern.
The G4 has wireless charging, but I think you need to buy the back for it like I had to do on the G3. It was ~$20 for the original one from LG.
The UI is cluttered by default, but you can make it into a list and make it less cluttered. I like it much better after that.
The camera is actually pretty amazing. I'll be posting pictures on Instagram/Twitter if you want to follow, same as my handle here. I know they get somewhat compressed, so I may start another thread with camera samples if you guys want that!

I think the round back would piss me off when using the phone while it is laying down on its back. I very often use one hand to double tap to wake, flip through notifications, send quick replies, double tap off. With a rounded back, can you type one handed while it is on a desk? Or does it rock back and forth? Seems like it would also slip off my lap while driving easier because the contact area is less.
And Qi charging is a requirement of any phone of mine. I have a sweet setup at home and work (Nexus 7 2013 and Verizon G2). Can you confirm? I'd hate a "qi backplate" because those typically add additional thickness and disallows feather cases like Incipio Feather from fitting.

player911 said:
I think the round back would piss me off when using the phone while it is laying down on its back. I very often use one hand to double tap to wake, flip through notifications, send quick replies, double tap off. With a rounded back, can you type one handed while it is on a desk? Or does it rock back and forth? Seems like it would also slip off my lap while driving easier because the contact area is less.
And Qi charging is a requirement of any phone of mine. I have a sweet setup at home and work (Nexus 7 2013 and Verizon G2). Can you confirm? I'd hate a "qi backplate" because those typically add additional thickness and disallows feather cases like Incipio Feather from fitting.
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I can type with one hand just fine, but it is round & moves when on the table. But it's not a huge deal to me, but that may be a deal breaker for some.
The Qi back for the G3 didn't add any bulk & thin cases fit just fine. I'll have some cases up tomorrow though!
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xetaray said:
If the G3 being able to add wireless charging with the quickwindow case meant it had the pins that allowed a wireless charging sticker to be added underneath the plastic back, I'm guessing the fact that the G4 has a quickwindow case with wireless charging means it's only a matter of time before someone makes a wireless charging sticker for the G4.
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Yeah, that's my current setup with the S3. But, that still means you have to buy something to actually be able it. It's not like phones like the S6 where you can literally put it straight out of the box and plop it onto a wireless charger and it'll start charging.
WinDroidGuy said:
I don't personally much like the leather, it's not hard or soft; can't really explain it. It feels nice, just not my cup of tea. I might check out the black leather back. But I did like the grayish one with diamond pattern.
The G4 has wireless charging, but I think you need to buy the back for it like I had to do on the G3. It was ~$20 for the original one from LG.
The UI is cluttered by default, but you can make it into a list and make it less cluttered. I like it much better after that.
The camera is actually pretty amazing. I'll be posting pictures on Instagram/Twitter if you want to follow, same as my handle here. I know they get somewhat compressed, so I may start another thread with camera samples if you guys want that!
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Yeah, I was wondering if colors would be exclusive, depending on the carrier. I've seen promos that T-Mobile is the only carrier that'll have the brown one you currently have. I remember seeing the black leather one for AT&T, but no idea if it's exclusive or not.
Ah okay, so it is like my S3 then, where you have to buy something separate to actually get use of the wireless charging since it's not enabled by default. Lil annoying, since I would prefer it enabled right out of the box, but it's not a deal breaker. I only even bought the receiver for the S3 because the charging port has gotten rather finicky, so it's buying time before I actually upgrade later this year.
I'd love to see some camera samples, so feel free to post them here or make a new thread for it. Your call on that.
player911 said:
And Qi charging is a requirement of any phone of mine. I have a sweet setup at home and work (Nexus 7 2013 and Verizon G2). Can you confirm? I'd hate a "qi backplate" because those typically add additional thickness and disallows feather cases like Incipio Feather from fitting.
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You could also try getting one of those receivers that you can place on top of the battery (essentially looks like a sticker with some pins). I'm using that for my S3 to help buy some time before upgrading later this year since my charging port is a bit finicky now. Because it goes inside the phone, it really doesn't add any bulk to your device.
From what others have mentioned in this thread, only a matter of time before someone makes one for the G4. Because it's not a case, I'm not sure how fast it'll charge, compared to an actual backplate. It might be slower, but I honestly can't say.

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You can get a qi wireless charging sticker for literally five dollars that takes two minutes to install, so it isn't that much of a hassle at all.
Sprint also has the black leather G4. Hopefully T-Mobile's brown leather exclusive expires by the time I get my G4 in November, because I want it.

xetaray said:
You can get a qi wireless charging sticker for literally five dollars that takes two minutes to install, so it isn't that much of a hassle at all.
Sprint also has the black leather G4. Hopefully T-Mobile's brown leather exclusive expires by the time I get my G4 in November, because I want it.
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I'll try you mine if I still have the device haha I get new phones A LOT :x

So does the G3 that ships in the US not have QI charging out of the box?
My G3 came with the QI charge patch built into the original rear cover and I was kinda assuming the G4 would be the same.
Thanks for the great review ... No doubt we will get the G4 here in Australia just before LG releases the G5 to you guys hahaha
Photo attached of the unit that was reviewed in France ... the QI patch is built into their model with the leather rear cover.
Review: http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference

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I believe that is the NFC antenna, not wireless charging. The impression LG gave off with the G4 was that there will be no wireless charging built in and the quickwindow case will be required for wireless charging. This is what they were saying for the American release of the G3, but they said the global model of the G3 will have wireless charging. From this, I'd guess the whole world will be in the same wireless charging situation with the G4 like the US was with the G3.

xetaray said:
I believe that is the NFC antenna, not wireless charging. The impression LG gave off with the G4 was that there will be no wireless charging built in and the quickwindow case will be required for wireless charging. This is what they were saying for the American release of the G3, but they said the global model of the G3 will have wireless charging. From this, I'd guess the whole world will be in the same wireless charging situation with the G4 like the US was with the G3.
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Ah, thanks for the explanation ... that might explain why only two contacts are made out of the 4 available.
I just googled replacement parts for the G3 and the QI and NFC are in the same patch ... but they use all 4 little contacts (on the picture I attached only two of the contacts are showing on the rear case).. At least the G4 has the 4 contacts on the phone so its likely someone will figure a way to replace the NFC with a combined NFC & QI with all 4 contacts.
Seems like a backwards step though

how did you get one already? and do you have to send this unit back after testing or did you win it?
seems to me the only people who got test units were professional reviewers.

Band 12 700mhz?
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Band 12 700mhz?
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Yes, this has it
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Wireless charging

So what's your guys opinion on our two options to enable wireless charging
The official Samsung cover adds some substantial bulk to the phone. The other option is something like the qi pad from Tylt that you simple stick under the batery cover with no added bulk.
Does anyone know if one charges the phone fast or anything like that.
Discuss thanks
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androidphan88 said:
So what's your guys opinion on our two options to enable wireless charging
The official Samsung cover adds some substantial bulk to the phone. The other option is something like the qi pad from Tylt that you simple stick under the batery cover with no added bulk.
Does anyone know if one charges the phone fast or anything like that.
Discuss thanks
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Not sure what bulk you are referring to? Pretty sure the charge isn't affected more in either case..
Also, this should be moved to Q&A
Look at the official Samsung back. The back as a whole becomes flush with the camera lens. It appears to be even a bit taller than the camera lens. That's quite a bit of added thickness to the phone imho
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Dennisg34 said:
Not sure what bulk you are referring to?
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The wireless charging back does add several millimeters of thickness to the phone. It is apparently enough that standard cases will not fit. I'm waiting on mine to come in, but OP, here is a long thread discussing options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715506
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You may also look in the accessories section for options.

Review After Having the Phone for 6 Days

OK my short review from having the LG G4 for 6 days now! Just as background, I luckily got the phone through a workmate i know in South Korea so the one i have is the South Korean model. Also, the South Korean version gives you something that is a bloody lifesaver and just so useful and you wish you'd always had one: an extra battery. More on that later.
So I have been using the Nexus 6 since launch and love it. To me at least it's been great – big screen, big development on XDA (I love custom roms/kernels and flashing in general) and over all a phone that i have loved. The only issues i have had really are: the screen is ok but could be better, the camera is ok and could be better and it is heavy and hefty so I use it one-handed but only just. It's a monster!
So last few months have been looking for something not quite as big with a better camera and better screen. I tried both the S6 and S6 Edge and sold them within a few days. Mostly because i think they are just too small and poky or something. S6 Edge was too sharp for me.
Along comes the G4! And if you don't want to read the boring detail below then in short: I love it and haven't really seen any faults at all.
Boring Detail:
Battery:
Here's a tricky one as i have always had decent battery on all phones i get. And all i do is read the same thing over and again on battery threads everywhere: 'i get only 2 hours Screen on Time help!' and then 'i get 7 hours Screen on Time and i'm amazing!'. The problem is the same: every person's usage pattern and apps and mobile reception is different so this all accounts for differing Screen on Time. So – FOR ME – i am getting consistently around 5 to 5.5 hours Screen on Time which is perfectly fine. So i reckon on MOST of the current flag ships you'd be getting pretty similar SOT.
However the one big bloody glaring thing about the South Korean model is that extra battery and that right there should solve pretty much ALL battery issues. So I just have the extra battery in the charging case attached to a USB cable on my computer. If I have gotten low on a day where i have the used phone a lot then 38 seconds later i have swapped batteries for the new 100% one! How good is that! Do yourself a favour and get a spare battery! No doubt they will be available shortly.
Two things that reviews are singling out as ‘cons’ which I think is just silly.
Wireless charging. I love wireless charging and until you use it a lot you don’t realise how convenient it is. I also have two Tylt Vu chargers and they are expensive so i want a device that uses wireless charging! Ok so the G4 has wireless charging CAPABILITY meaning that you need a different back than the one that comes with it and it will work.
Already LG has said that the G4 circle case will have that. So all I will be doing is waiting for the inevitable Shenzen rip off sticker that you stick inside your case that gives me wireless charging. I will give it 4 weeks max before they are on Ebay for $5.
Quick charging. There’s this boring debate that the G4 did not include Quick Charging 2.0 even though Qualcom have it in their chip. Big deal! What you do get is the 1.8 Quick Charge which isn’t quite as good but is still perfectly acceptable! In my testing it charges a bit over 1% per minute. Which is just fine.
Feel:
Sorry about the pretentious term ‘feel’ but it’s the best way of describing a major kick ass thing this phone has! It is just the BEST weight, feel and hold of any phone i’ve owned. It’s not light, it’s not heavy. It’s not small and it’s not phablety big. It is juuuuuuuust right. Dunno what it exactly is – maybe the slight bend? But it’s great.
Leather. I would never in a squillion years think i would own a leather phone or that the leather would work. But it does. Looks good, feels great, is great. Photos do not do it justice. I got the black weather which i love but if i was to buy it again the brown/tan i think could be the pick. If you get the plastic to save a few bucks then, um, don’t!
Camera:
Not going to go into detail because every review already has and i am not a manual camera person. I am Mr Point and Shoot. Suffice to say it takes very good photos. Had it over the weekend at Adelaide with relatives and photos turned out great.
Lag/Stutter/UI Blah:
Ok so on EVERY phone i own i remove the stock launcher and install an aftermarket one because guess why? They’re better. Don’t understand why people cry about the OEM launcher when the aftermarket ones are installed within 16 seconds and are better anyway.
Stutter/lag – again this is another topic that i don’t understand. I really haven’t had a phone that suffered at all from this. I ALWAYS change the animation three options to 0.5 in Developer Options and this often is more than enough. Don’t need to be rooted and takes 14 seconds – why wouldn’t you do it? In general though, i have not had stutter or lag in this phone at all.
The Knock Code to turn on screen. Sorry but every phone that doesn’t have this should get that as a ‘con’. It is just soooo convenient. Love it.
Notification shade works well. Lots of options, lots of shortcuts to choose.
Notification light – a no brainer and dunno why the Nexus 6 didn’t have it and i had to install a custom ROM to get it. It works and works fine.
Ability to change nav bar buttons around and add a couple more. Love this as i always like my back button on the right not the left.
These little customisations are what really makes the UI i think. So handy.
Display:
Great. Bright and similar when i had the S6 as a stand out. Reviews have covered it pretty well too – is an excellent colourful display. LG got it right.
Sound:
Decent! I just don’t use my phone to listen to stuff except for headphones but is loud and ok. Not as good as HTC but good for a phone.
Weird big bloody LCD density:
Here’s a weird thing which no review has mentioned which is the only thing that really annoyed me: the density is 620! Meaning that things are huge! Everything looked like a huge fonted behemoth! And without root i wasn’t able to use the easy way of changing the density via build.prop and eventually had to do it via hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.
Overall:
Found a phone that for me at least satisfied most of what i want in a phone very well. And i haven’t even missed using a custom rom because you can’t root it yet! Never thought i’d say that. So once everyone has it in a month then hopefully development will mean it is even better!
Oh and get the effin leather purlease!!
Thank you for this nice review! Really appreciate it
That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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Yes the speaker is definitely loud. It is on the back of the phone though and is just one speaker. I wouldn't say quality is great but definitely loud.
Yes so weird about the LCD density! But yeah if you like big text then all good.
Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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legend221 said:
Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
poczynek said:
Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
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This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Ok just took a photo
legend221 said:
This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Ok just took a photo
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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poczynek said:
Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Oh right sorry yes wasn't understanding what you were saying as driving and reading.
Lock-N-Load said:
Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Great thanks.. IF the opportunity arises, it would be cool to see a before and after photo of your text size density.
Can the G4 turn Chrome into a free floating window?
Great review, very informative.
I passed on the G3 after really liking the G2 mostly due to the locked BL. I hope LG provides the ability to unlock it this time around like Sony and HTC do.
Or someone here cracks it much faster than it happened on the G3 which took what seemed like forever.
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Thanks for the link. Do the dock and lock screen icons work on stock launcher using this method. On the G3 they didn't scale correctly?
What buttons can you change/add to the nav bar? Can you add a menu button?
Is there any sign of the lollipop memory leak?

it worth to buy oneplus 2??

last year ,i bought a oneplus one.but i want to change a fast phone now.i am entangled with xiaomi note and meizu mx4.so what about your suggestion?what will worth if compare with oneplus one?
Just One word: "ABSOLUTELY"
PS: Owner of OnePlus 2 since about 7 days now.
bob nguala said:
last year ,i bought a oneplus one.but i want to change a fast phone now.i am entangled with xiaomi note and meizu mx4.so what about your suggestion?what will worth if compare with oneplus one?
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Yeah, it's a great device, IF you get a good one! The same problems that bothered the OnePlus One, are coming back to the OnePlus 2.
SOFTWARE problems, then some potential problems with the touch sensor that is starting to crop up. If you remember some of the problems with ghost touches, that appear to be associated with grounding problems with the screen. People have noticed if they are gripping the oneplus2 with one hand, wrapped around the metal band, and try to use the touch sensor thingy, it may not work, or produce an unintended result. If you wear gloves, or have the phone placed on a table, the fingerprint thingy sensor works just fine.
If you have a problem, good luck with opening a ticket and returning it.
I'm of the opinion that OnePlus, is nothing more than a paper company, that does beta testing for Oppo, who owns them.
p51d007 said:
Yeah, it's a great device, IF you get a good one! The same problems that bothered the OnePlus One, are coming back to the OnePlus 2.
SOFTWARE problems, then some potential problems with the touch sensor that is starting to crop up. If you remember some of the problems with ghost touches, that appear to be associated with grounding problems with the screen. People have noticed if they are gripping the oneplus2 with one hand, wrapped around the metal band, and try to use the touch sensor thingy, it may not work, or produce an unintended result. If you wear gloves, or have the phone placed on a table, the fingerprint thingy sensor works just fine.
If you have a problem, good luck with opening a ticket and returning it.
I'm of the opinion that OnePlus, is nothing more than a paper company, that does beta testing for Oppo, who owns them.
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Well, at some points I'll have to disagree.
With me, finger print censor works great. It depends on you how you've set up fingerprint. Ie covering your fingerprint in almost every possible way that you may use.
But you'd ask me, native camera app UI could be much better than this. There is HUGE space for improvement here.
Also, I don't know if battery life is that great as they claim. But I stay most of the time at home or at office so don't have problems.
My thoughts (I've had a Xiaomi Note and an MX4):
1. Much better build quality than both - be sure to Swap the sandstone back for a Bamboo or Apricot to finish the job. Seriously night and day between those and the OnePlus One.
2. Camera is better than both but slower to shoot. This needs sorting out via software. I'm surprised at this because Oppo (chief investor/owner) have always excelled in camera software. My find 5, find 7, and R5s have always been instant shooters.
3. Oxygen OS is much better than Hydrogen, MIUI, and Flyme. It's no coincidence that Chinese market focused OSs are dumbed down and quite childish in appearance - that's how most of them are (ColorOS is another example). I don't mind them, and they're certainly usable, but prefer the more mature and light skins... Preferably as close to stock as possible like Oxygen.
4. Battery is good. Similar to OPO and Xiaomi Note.
5. Performance is great. Smooth and fluid with no app refreshing issues. The SD810 may be underclocked but you will not notice it. And it doesn't get hot.
There's more but you need to try it yourself. As a OnePlus One owner, I upgraded and recommend others do too.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
@kinghu,
Awesome summary!
Agree with every word you said.
Wanted to asked if Bamboo is really good?? I am quite confused between bamboo and kevlar
Rushyang said:
@kinghu,
Awesome summary!
Agree with every word you said.
Wanted to asked if Bamboo is really good?? I am quite confused between bamboo and kevlar
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I don't have Kevlar yet but will probably order it next when I go for the Rosewood.
At the moment I just have Bamboo and Black Apricot. I prefer the Apricot's look as it matches the rest of the device. However, the Bamboo feels really great and doesn't show any fingerprints whatsoever and it looks good albeit in a different style.
The Kevlar will look awesome if you want to go ultra stealth.
To be honest, I think they all look good in their own way and want them to swap out depending on my mood. Before I saw and tried then I though they were a bit gimmicky and might feel cheap but it's the exact opposite.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
kinghu said:
I don't have Kevlar yet but will probably order it next when I go for the Rosewood.
At the moment I just have Bamboo and Black Apricot. I prefer the Apricot's look as it matches the rest of the device. However, the Bamboo feels really great and doesn't show any fingerprints whatsoever and it looks good albeit in a different style.
The Kevlar will look awesome if you want to go ultra stealth.
To be honest, I think they all look good in their own way and want them to swap out depending on my mood. Before I saw and tried then I though they were a bit gimmicky and might feel cheap but it's the exact opposite.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
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So, did you buy other styleswaps? Wanted to check your review for kevlar.
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So, did you buy other styleswaps? Wanted to check your review for kevlar.
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The last two (Kevlar and Rosewood) are mid-delivery so will probably arrive tomorrow. I'll post a quick opinion when they land.
-- from my S6
I've got about 12 hours before my invite runs out. Has anyone tested to see if both sims are capable of 4g service simultaneously. I know it's dual standby. Thanks for any info.
sbellseb said:
I've got about 12 hours before my invite runs out. Has anyone tested to see if both sims are capable of 4g service simultaneously. I know it's dual standby. Thanks for any info.
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You mean use 4G (LTE) days on both SIMs at the same time? If so I'm afraid not. In the settings you have to choose s preferred SIM for data.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
Sorry, no, not what I mean. Badly worded. I want both sims to be 4g active at the same time to receive calls / text. I do understand only one sim will be 4g active for data at anytime.
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So, did you buy other styleswaps? Wanted to check your review for kevlar.
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Arrived today. Must say the Kevlar is real nice. Slightly textured so it grips but not like the sandstone; matte finish so doesn't show prints to badly; and of course it looks stealthy and themes well with the rest of the phone.
If I was going to have one cover for appearance alone, Kevlar would be it.
Small note: I do recommend changing from the sandstone cover because all other covers are slightly thicker, thus making the camera area slightly inset. This means you can go caseless and not have the camera scrape across a surface when you lay the phone down. With the thinner sandstone, the camera area sticks out just enough to be the first point of contact.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
kinghu said:
Arrived today. Must say the Kevlar is real nice. Slightly textured so it grips but not like the sandstone; matte finish so doesn't show prints to badly; and of course it looks stealthy and themes well with the rest of the phone.
If I was going to have one cover for appearance alone, Kevlar would be it.
Small note: I do recommend changing from the sandstone cover because all other covers are slightly thicker, thus making the camera area slightly inset. This means you can go caseless and not have the camera scrape across a surface when you lay the phone down. With the thinner sandstone, the camera area sticks out just enough to be the first point of contact.
-- from my OnePlus 2 (A2003)
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Thanks a lot for your review of Kevlar. Wanted to know user review rather than a YouTube videos.
Also, about the camera going slightly inset after putting on a styleswap cover, I observed that in videos and they were also telling it made a device little hefty. But on a positive side, since I don't like to put on any covers on my smartphone, I thought kevlar would be the best one to protect it from any accidental physical damage.
Again, appreciate your time!
Rushyang said:
Thanks a lot for your review of Kevlar. Wanted to know user review rather than a YouTube videos.
Also, about the camera going slightly inset after putting on a styleswap cover, I observed that in videos and they were also telling it made a device little hefty. But on a positive side, since I don't like to put on any covers on my smartphone, I thought kevlar would be the best one to protect it from any accidental physical damage.
Again, appreciate your time!
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I prefer caseless too. With recent phones having protruding cameras it's almost been a necessity to protect it.
Kevlar + no case = best look and feel.
Got invite today a few hours left I have opo and happy with it is it worth getting three opo2 seems no much difference besides finger print scanner and no NFC. I keep changing my mind to buy one or not heard the battery life is 4 hours screen on time due to 810 CPU which is worse than opo what do you think
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kinghu said:
I prefer caseless too. With recent phones having protruding cameras it's almost been a necessity to protect it.
Kevlar + no case = best look and feel.
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At the moment, my OP2 is in my hand with Kevlar styleswap on! It's really awesome feel and looks awesome as well..! Really happy that I went with Kevlar! Thanks again!
Op2 has been the most powerful device at its price..

Why the V20 vs the pixel?

Hi
Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
borisb said:
Hi
Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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SD card and a removable battery. After the Note 7, I don't want a phone that I can't take the battery out.
borisb said:
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Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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For me is better in the following ways:
Second screen, removable battery, looks better, sdcard, the camera specs look better to me, better audio, full AT&T support (AT&T tends to not fully support features like VoLTE on non branded devices).
Downside: probably locked bootloader, potentially limited development support, and each version has a subset of all the possible LTE bands.
Almost 300 Dollars cheaper if you trade in your old 4G phone. Has some unique hardware features that the pixel doesn't have (2nd screen, dual camera, replaceable battery). Potential downside of V20: Slow with software updates and battery life. I decided today to cancel my Pixel XL order. To spent 1000 bucks for a phone that has no hardware wow factor didn't sit well with me. The Google software gimmicks on the pixel like assistant don't interest me and they are anyway 1st gen.Pixel owners are beta testers. Maybe next years Pixel 2nd gen will be nice.
The Silver phone is Silver on both sides, not Silver on the back and Girly White on the front.
I was debating between the two. My biggest gripe on the v20 is the screen. Not a bad screen, but LG calibration is usually bad and way too cold. Also no VR on the lg.
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DIXZ06 said:
The Silver phone is Silver on both sides, not Silver on the back and Girly White on the front.
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The worst is the blue pixel. Looks good from the back and then you turn it around and it is white. UGLY!
I hate the button placement on the Pixel. Similar to the one on the 6P. While holding the phone I constantly press the volume button. In a car holder the phone cannot be positioned in the middle because the holder presses than either the on/off button or the volume button down.
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I hate the button placement on the Pixel. Similar to the one on the 6P. While holding the phone I constantly press the volume button. In a car holder the phone cannot be positioned in the middle because the holder presses than either the on/off button or the volume button down.
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Very true, I'm hitting my 6p a lot! But otherwise the Nexus6p is awesome!
borisb said:
Hi
Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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Removable battery, quad Dac, 64gb internal memory standard, expandable storage, and ir blaster
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For every cons you find on the LG V20, you get 2 or more pros. By the way. Someone already unlocked the bootloader for the Tmobile model! (I GOT TO LOVE TMOBILE LOL! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO NICE). Smells like some rooting is about to be cooked up!... anyway, lets keep up with the listing, LG V20 is : Better looking, high quality built, shockproof, removable battery, Expandable SD CArd up to 2000TBS!, more megapixels in the rear camera, INFRAREEEED (an odd yet very effective feature to find in a phone nowadays), and the uniform color. and several other great features that you wouldnt find on google pixel /xl
^^what they said! and has wide angle camera feature! and already has a lot of activity on XDA! Cool
galaxys said:
^^what they said! and has wide angle camera feature! and already has a lot of activity on XDA! Cool
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YESSS you said it!
My main consideration in going with the v20 over the pixel was this is google's first phone. I think that alone increases the chances for problems. Plus, where I'm at, there's no actual physicall store selling the pixel. I'm more comfortable being able to go to a store and talk to someone if I have a problem and need replacement.
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My main consideration in going with the v20 over the pixel was this is google's first phone. I think that alone increases the chances for problems. Plus, where I'm at, there's no actual physicall store selling the pixel. I'm more comfortable being able to go to a store and talk to someone if I have a problem and need replacement.
Facts which can be chosen based upon preference.
I preordered the V20 based on these items below.
- Availability, the XL is out of stock for how long no one knows.
- MicroSD support
- Removable battery (Not a must for me)
- Audio experience.
- Camera has a lot of features, but quality could be a 50/50?
Thats basically it. Everything else would be preference honestly.
The PIXEL XL is just a bad ass phone.
joseguillen1994 said:
For every cons you find on the LG V20, you get 2 or more pros. By the way. Someone already unlocked the bootloader for the Tmobile model! (I GOT TO LOVE TMOBILE LOL! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO NICE). Smells like some rooting is about to be cooked up!... anyway, lets keep up with the listing, LG V20 is : Better looking, high quality built, shockproof, removable battery, Expandable SD CArd up to 2000TBS!, more megapixels in the rear camera, INFRAREEEED (an odd yet very effective feature to find in a phone nowadays), and the uniform color. and several other great features that you wouldnt find on google pixel /xl
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What is current and previous phones?
??
borisb said:
What is current and previous phones?
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What do you mean? do you mean which devices have i owned in the past and the one i own now?
if that is what you meant then... I have owned Galaxy S1/2/3/4/5/6; Samsung galaxy note 1/2/3 Samsung Galaxy Exhibit, LG Leon, Alcatel One touch fierce 1/2 LG G2/G3/G4/G5.
The red Ones are the ones i dont own anymore LOL. The V20 is on its way, supposedly arriving between 24th and 28th.
joseguillen1994 said:
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What do you mean? do you mean which devices have i owned in the past and the one i own now?
if that is what you meant then... I have owned Galaxy S1/2/3/4/5/6; Samsung galaxy note 1/2/3 Samsung Galaxy Exhibit, LG Leon, Alcatel One touch fierce 1/2 LG G2/G3/G4/G5.
The red Ones are the ones i dont own anymore LOL. The V20 is on its way, supposedly arriving between 24th and 28th.
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just wanted to know how you formed ideas.
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just wanted to know how you formed ideas.
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wait. did i answered your question right?
i just don't the looks of the pixel. the design looks like every other generic phone that has come out over the last few years. i got the v20 for all the same reason others have already mentioned. i love the phone so far. even way better than my recalled note 7 which i hated so much. glad they got recalled.

Any new stories about the camera cracking?

As you know I'm thinking about the V20 or Pixel XL and I'm wondering has anyone still been having the cameras on these shattering or has this defect been corrected?
The lens cover sticks out from the back of the phone. If you're careful about setting it down, you shouldn't have any problem. A good case should mitigate the problem further.
It had to have been a bad batch because myself like plenty of others have dropped out tested the theories of the people who cracked there's and nothing has happened so far. Hoping I didn't just jinx myself.
Mine cracked in my pocket. No keys or or anything else in that pocket. Pretty sure it wont be covered under warranty, so I'm looking for a replacement but no luck on parts yet.
kitchencop said:
Mine cracked in my pocket. No keys or or anything else in that pocket. Pretty sure it wont be covered under warranty, so I'm looking for a replacement but no luck on parts yet.
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Was there any kind of significant temperature change (being outside in the cold for a period of time and then going inside a warm place or vice versa) right before or around when you noticed it had cracked? I'm just curious because if not the only thing other thing I can imagine causing them to spontaneously break, would be if the way they were installed somehow causes the them to be under constant pressure? That's crazy though this is a first time time I've heard about this so hopefully it won't be widespread, does it the camera itself break too or just the lens around them?
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I was in and out of the house and it was 40°F outside, 70°F inside. I'm assuming I bumped up against something. Camera still works, just the lens is broken. Wide angle camera is useless though since the shatter originated there. Right now I have a piece of tape over the lens to keep it from cracking any more and damaging the cameras.
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I was in and out of the house and it was 40°F outside, 70°F inside. I'm assuming I bumped up against something. Camera still works, just the lens is broken. Wide angle camera is useless though since the shatter originated there. Right now I have a piece of tape over the lens to keep it from cracking any more and damaging the cameras.
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Would you buy another V20 after this?
People say the s7/s7e camera shatters easily too but I've never had that problem.
Blues fan said:
As you know I'm thinking about the V20 or Pixel XL and I'm wondering has anyone still been having the cameras on these shattering or has this defect been corrected?
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I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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I use Defender cases a lot, but the one for the V20 looks like plain overkill. I wish Supcase made one for the V20. Not a lot of Defender style case options for V20 but it's only been out for one half months now.
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Would you buy another V20 after this?
People say the s7/s7e camera shatters easily too but I've never had that problem.
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I came from the Note 7. Only reason I bought the V20 was because I didn't like the S7E. I am not too pleased with this phone. For being a phone with such a great camera, I find photos taken in auto to be lackluster. I know you can get some great shots with manual mode, but I have a 1yo that doesn't sit still long enough to mess with the settings. The N7 was great for just point and shoot. I'll use my Cannon DSLR for more advanced shots. Also, to me, it feels like the software isn't as well optimized as on the N7. It gets sluggish at times and the battery doesn't seem to last long either. It may be my overall frustration with phone since August, going through the 2 recalls and 5 phones in that time, but I am disappointed to say the least.
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I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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kitchencop said:
I came from the Note 7. Only reason I bought the V20 was because I didn't like the S7E. I am not too pleased with this phone. For being a phone with such a great camera, I find photos taken in auto to be lackluster. I know you can get some great shots with manual mode, but I have a 1yo that doesn't sit still long enough to mess with the settings. The N7 was great for just point and shoot. I'll use my Cannon DSLR for more advanced shots. Also, to me, it feels like the software isn't as well optimized as on the N7. It gets sluggish at times and the battery doesn't seem to last long either. It may be my overall frustration with phone since August, going through the 2 recalls and 5 phones in that time, but I am disappointed to say the least.
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Note 7 for me had some stutter to it but other than that the phone was PERFECT! Well maybe put an IR blaster on it. I was so ticked I had to get rid of it. Nothing else out there fits my preferences 100 percent right now. We are kind of in the lull period until next March when the S8 series comes out.
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Note 7 for me had some stutter to it but other than that the phone was PERFECT! Well maybe put an IR blaster on it. I was so ticked I had to get rid of it. Nothing else out there fits my preferences 100 percent right now. We are kind of in the lull period until next March when the S8 series comes out.
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I have high hopes for the S8's. Hopefully my wife will let me upgrade when they come out. That's if I can find the glass lens to fix this phone
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I have high hopes for the S8's. Hopefully my wife will let me upgrade when they come out. That's if I can find the glass lens to fix this phone
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I expect the larger version of the S8 or S8 edge or whatever they call it will have similar size to the S7 edge. I don't think we will get a bigger screen until the Note 8 comes out. I'm not a huge fan of the curves and rather would have a fully functional large screen. I wonder if a lot on here plan on keeping the V20 until the Note 8 is out.
I would like the Note 8 to be like the v20 and have removable battery, and bring back the IR blaster too.

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