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I HAD A BIG DREAM... BUILDING MY EXYNOS QUADCORE DREAM TABLET... Ideas Wanted!!

Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?

JSchlossstein said:
Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?

Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?

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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit

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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?

PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?

Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..

Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]

MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick

This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!

so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin

Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)

NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1

Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!

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Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.

What about screen?

JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
Sent from my PantechP9070 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2

Lenovo Vibe P1

The Lenovo Vibe P1 just launched a week ago,
Thinking to buy this device but,
It seems rumor mill has already started churning, about the device facing a "Heating issue".
The device is pretty great for a low ranged smartphone with,
Android v5.1 (Lollipop) OS
4900mAh, Quick Charge
Fingerprint Reader NFC
13 MP PDAF f2.2 Camera
5 MP f2.8 Camera
Dual Sim (LTE + LTE)
5.5 inch FHD 1080p Touchscreen
1.5 GHz Snapdragon 615 64-bit Octa Core Processor
Expandable Storage Capacity of 128 GB
can someone who owns/ knows someone who does/ or expert reviewer , shed some light about this device's issues, especially the heating one? Thanks in advance

I am using one.. Got it yesterday only.. Using it continuously, but No heating issues till now.. But I don't play games and hence ymmv..

Could you test it with some standard games like Clash Of Clans, Asphalt or Modern Combat?
The Heating issue is over hyped on various sites, scared to buy it because of that.

Not Much of a Heater
The phone even after serious gaming for upto 45 mins doesnt go above 44-45 degs (Celcius). Dont worry, I was worried too, saw the gaming review with temp, & then placed the order. I'll be getting mine in a couple of days.

Thanks, was badly worried with the reviews saying the Lenovo Vibe P1 heats upto 50-55 Celsius on long calls and gaming.

how to root this??

Thank
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AniRaje said:
The Lenovo Vibe P1 just launched a week ago,
Thinking to buy this device but,
It seems rumor mill has already started churning, about the device facing a "Heating issue".
The device is pretty great for a low ranged smartphone with,
Android v5.1 (Lollipop) OS
4900mAh, Quick Charge
Fingerprint Reader NFC
13 MP PDAF f2.2 Camera
5 MP f2.8 Camera
Dual Sim (LTE + LTE)
5.5 inch FHD 1080p Touchscreen
1.5 GHz Snapdragon 615 64-bit Octa Core Processor
Expandable Storage Capacity of 128 GB
can someone who owns/ knows someone who does/ or expert reviewer , shed some light about this device's issues, especially the heating one? Thanks in advance
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Thank

How to root ??
I really want to root this phone
I tried kingroot and iRoot applications
Can anyone suggest a proper way to root this phone ?

Is there a separate FAST CHARGING option for charging?
or it's a separate cable or something?

I am using this phone and the only tim I get this heated up is when it is charging .... but again not more than 45 - 46 .. so this is a good phone and worth the money spent

Fantastic fone for the price. Cost me less than 200 dollars equivilant coupled with an exchange. Good performance. Excellent battery life. Fast charging. Colors and hues not as good as an OPO. Looks quite OK.
5.1.1 out of the box.
Hope developers develop interest in building Custom RoMs, other development support.

unlock bootloader and root for lenovo p1

any rooting method for vibe p1 available?

waiting for someone to port CM12 for pure android experience and overclocking

Problems with my lenovo vibe p1
1st impressions on the phone are good but then later i started to phase some problems like frame drop on ANDROID LOLLIPOP GAME and 2 CARS can not believe this cause a phone with 2gb RAM and octa core 1.5ghz
can not deal with frame drops and one more thing is that when the phone is at low brightness the display starts flickering. ANY SOLUTION FOR THIS?!?!
PLEASE HELP!!! CAUSE I GOTTA REPLACE MY PHONE!!!

The battery life is excellent. After enabling the developer options, there is an option to enable bootloader unlock just like in one plus one. Anyone tried that?
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kanagadeepan said:
The battery life is excellent. After enabling the developer options, there is an option to enable bootloader unlock just like in one plus one. Anyone tried that?
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I turned this switch on, and tried "fastboot oem unlock", but got "FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)"

Gryroscope
Guys can u check whether YOUTUBE 360 videos are working properly with out and screen shake??

hi if anyone want to try rooting this phone ,just download the software from the link below and try.i can not try this as i dont own this phone but will purchase soon.
http://www.srsroot.com/news
just go to downloads tab and it will download the software.just down load and install it.run it as admin, connect your device and use root device(all method) .
i found this while browing the net.please revert if it helps.

I tried srs root for my lenovo p1 pro, but it doesn't go for me!

New Asus Zenfone Max 2016 with Octa Core CPU, 2/3GB RAM and Android 6.0 launched!

Asus recently announced the refreshed version of its Zenfone Max. The new phone now comes with an Octa Core Snapdragon 615 Processor , 2/3GB of RAM and a 'monstrous' 5000mAh Battery. It gets 32GB of internal storage which is expandable upto 64GB via a MicroSD card slot. The 2GB variant will be sold for INR 9,999 and the 3GB variant will be sold for INR 12,999. I have been using the phone since the past few days and the difference of putting a Snapdragon 615 over the original 410 is noticeable. Along with that, The smoothness of the UI has also been improved. I will be doing a full review of this phone soon but for now, Here is the unboxing and Gaming overview of the phone in 4k.
Thanks

please kindly tell me the build number of Android M on this device .

Being touted as an affordable smartphone, the best feature about the smartphone is its humongous battery: use it all you want and it is highly unlikely most users will be disappointed. Apart from this, the display is good for everyday usage, nothing spectacular. The camera is above average, and the device does have a hefty body thanks to its beefy battery. Android Marshmallow brings all the bells and whistles we've grown accustomed to in this OS, while ZenUI throws in a ton of apps--something you may like if that's your thing.

I am loving the new 615 model...Has anyone managed to get custom recovery TWRP for this device ??

saiprasadgawde said:
I am loving the new 615 model...Has anyone managed to get custom recovery TWRP for this device ??
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+1 , Asus rolled out the marshmallow update for the 410 (16GB) version of Zenfone max yesterday ,a custom recovery is needed indeed

jide1 said:
+1 , Asus rolled out the marshmallow update for the 410 (16GB) version of Zenfone max yesterday ,a custom recovery is needed indeed
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Ya I know about the update. Just hoping someone gets TWRP recovery to this device

too bad the 2016 version only available in india

Lightya said:
too bad the 2016 version only available in india
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i bought one on ebay. been using for a month now, its amazing. the battery is a dream
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191866863090?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Redmi Note 4 Pros & Cons Read before Purchase

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We are very Very Sorry..

Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain that we will never get the sources required for a proper custom ROM on this device, mainly because it is Mediatek.
Waiting for Redmi Note 4 Pro (Snapdragon)...

They will launch Snapdragon version in India due to patent issues with Erricson. So we might get our hands on the source code just like Note 3.

nitrobg said:
Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain that we will never get the sources required for a proper custom ROM on this device, mainly because it is Mediatek.
Waiting for Redmi Note 4 Pro (Snapdragon)...
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Ya you are right mediatek device is the main issue about this phone. one thing I have also notice camera quality is not much better

The Snapdragon 652 will be a beast on this phone, especially when the ROMs start rolling in.

nitrobg said:
Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain that we will never get the sources required for a proper custom ROM on this device, mainly because it is Mediatek.
Waiting for Redmi Note 4 Pro (Snapdragon)...
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Do you know on average how much time it will take for them to release it? by comparing with past devices?

Hgneto said:
Do you know on average how much time it will take for them to release it? by comparing with past devices?
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Usually 3-6 months after the launch.

amarlko said:
Xiaomi has rocked the India and chinese smartphone marketplace launching, it’s killer price range phone, Xiaomi Redmi be aware 3 priced at Rs 9,999 for 16GB ROM+2GB RAM, Rs 11,999 for 32GB+3GB RAM. Now it’s success, Xiaomi Redmi note 4 released in China at CNY 899 (approx. Rs. 9,000) for 2GB RAM+16GB ROM and at CNY 1,199 (approx.Rs. 12,000) FOR 3GB RAM+64GB ROM in grey, Gold and Silver color option.
In latest report, Xiaomi Redmi note 4 featuring Marshmallow 6.0 , Octa-core Soc, finger print scanner , USB kind C will launch in Q3 will be priced approx. Rs 10,000 for 2GB+16GB, Approx. Rs 12,000 for 3GB+64GB. it’s going to counter Lenovo, Samsung and HTC in mid-range phone market.
Pros Of Redmi Note 4
Design Is very well
5.5 inch full HD display
curved glass 2.5
Octa-core Soc, finger print scanner
Marshmallow 6.0
big games can play easily
MIUI version 8
Cons of Redmi Note 4
Micro SD slot not dedicated
Camera quality is not much better
Mediatek processer
primary camera quality is not well
Lock screen can’t control Music Apps
While recording HD video’s phone automatically lags
app can’t move in SD card
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So it's MediaTek? I have 3 MT devices, none of them have enough space in the user partition. I thought that was the reason why there were slow and unresponsive.
But these look a lot better than what I already have. Can they be rooted, do the standard recoveries show upside-down. CWM is easier to manage that way, but TWRP is difficult.

mediatek
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So it's MediaTek? I have 3 MT devices, none of them have enough space in the user partition. I thought that was the reason why there were slow and unresponsive.
But these look a lot better than what I already have. Can they be rooted, do the standard recoveries show upside-down. CWM is easier to manage that way, but TWRP is difficult.
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Mediatek device main problem is regarding enough space and fast access. I hope Redmi note 4 wiil work much better if a user can root this device & create SD partition .

what's the difference with xiaomi note 3 ??? except the look..

alvxs said:
what's the difference with xiaomi note 3 ??? except the look..
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-upgraded processor
-upgraded internal storage option (64GB)
-speaker on bottom
-comes with Android MM
-2.5D glass
Those are the first things that I notice.

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What phone after Jiayu S3 ?

I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife. But with the applications updates and time passing, the 16 Gb of memory is simply not enough anymore for my usage.
I would like to find a replacement phone similar to my Jiayu with at least 32 Gb of memory and 4 Gb of ROM. The new phone should be dual sim (I work and live in two countries), compatible with European 4G, provide an extension for a memory card (that doesn't use a sim slot) and be easily rootable (I'm an IT engineer, so this is a must). The price should also be less then 300€ (my Jiayu S3 costed me less than 200€, with accessories and shipment included).
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72917904
Gesendet von meinem S3 mit Tapatalk

nidget said:
I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife.
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
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It's a tough one. Been looking too for some upgrade after 2+ years of S3 use but there is always one or two things that you have to sacrifice - NFC, separate mSD slot, or sometimes B20 frequency on 4G network. For me, an upgrade from S3 would be a minimum of 4/64GB and 4000 mAh battery. I was looking for a larger screen also (Mi Max 2 with 6.44" is my favorite, although no NFC) and also some od Redmi Note series or some LeEco 5.7" models. Oh, and there is Lenovo P2 but it's not so much of an upgrade.

I like the idea of discussing next phone. We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development. Next, we inevitably also focus on some different parameters (money, size, functionality, ...).
Personally, money is not the main obstacle, and, I would like a big 6.5" phone (and if needed at all : a 17" tablet) . Actually: for big screen Android experience I prefer a TV box (and dual boot LE for fun), so I probably do not need a tablet.
So, right now, I have hope for 'Huawei Honor Note 9' or 'Xiaomi Mi Mix 2' but -only- if some minimal, say, Google -style ROM can be built. If not then I would be equally happy with a big size madOS supported Mediatek device with excellent specs and support (just like my beloved JYS3s). Or, ideally: a OnePlus 6+ (6.5" phone).

For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...

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For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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Vernee Apollo looks OK. I want more than 6" next phone. But that's just my wish.

What do you guys think of the Ulefone T1, is it any good and will it be supported bij MAD or other team?

Umidigi S2 Pro?

I think next week I will be ordering Mi Max 2, after 2.5 years of Jiayu S3. It's still running fine so I will probably keep it as backup (and to test Oreo if it comes in near future , but I decided it's time for a bigger screen and much better battery with QC3, which is one of the principal reasons for upgrade...
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Dior DNA said:
We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development.
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Exactly. It's a critical advantage for the (more advanced) users to also have open source ROMs available.

antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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On paper, it's trully amazing. But it's not been released yet (it will be in a few days)..

Ulefone T1 ?

Vernee Mix 2 ?

Vernee Apollo 2 or LeEco LE MAX 3 I want to see them soon in reviews. Good screen, power and design

antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.

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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821

A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review

antonioantuan said:
Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
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Why did you change your mind?
Those two phones dont look as good as the Umidigi S2 Pro in my opinion.
And slightly better specs dont care to me, am not going to play heavy games.

Personally I've moved from Mediatek devices, got a Le Max 2 and it's a big step camera wise. Mediatek devices promise a lot but these Chinese companies fail to deliver on the specs. They keep bragging about the image sensor because they know they're not going to optimize the image quality.
Outside of MAD there's not really any development going on for Mediatek devices, and Mediatek seems to have given up on high-performance SoCs (X30 was a big flop), so it'll be the boring octa-core A53s for next year. You can find decent Qualcomm devices for the same price, and you'll get custom roms.

nidget said:
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
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This ticks a lot of boxes for me but it is missing NFC.